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26 May 2018

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Gregory

Toes 235pm

Ummm... not exactly. While black students did have unofficial ceremonies that kinda looked like graduation ceremonies the day before... the degrees were conferred en masse on Thursday AM, from baccalaureate to Doctor of Philosophy, and the paper handed out in Diploma Awarding Ceremonies in the afternoon. The Black ceremony was not official. Just a place where they can be themselves without the people of pallor or the non-URM minorites suing to not be discriminated against looking on.

Part of that is that to fit the teeming masses yearning to get a look of their loved one, only two tix were available per person for the main ceremony and there just weren't enough to meet demand. My son was told that if Rosie and I wanted to be sitting in the damn good seats the PhD student tix would be, we'd have to be there at 645AM Eastern time to get to them. There were satellite auditoriums that had video feeds and we chose to see the early festivities from there. As it was, with the formalized "wheras and wherefors" and the domini-domini you're all graduated now, it took about an hour.

As an aside, a Harvard president of the 1930's was quoted as saying Harvard U's College of Education 'was a kitten that ought to be drowned', to use an older rural phrase borne of hard choices on the farm... had he seen what it had come to in 2018, he'd have gotten the bucket and gone to work.

Paul emery

My job was to unload the caskets from Vietnam at Travis Air Force Base. That’s all I have to say about it. Did it for six years as a member of an aerial port squadron.

Bill Tozer

Now Walt. I never liked those “America, love it our leave it” bumper stickers back it the day because of the 1st Amendment, but those “Next time you need help, call a Hippy” bumper stickers made me smile. These issues have been around a long time. Loving America is not a requirement. It is a Priviledge to serve your county, not a duty. A priveledge that only 0.5% of the population is fortunate enough to have experienced. O.5 percent just happens to be the percentage of DACAs that have enlisted in our military branches....some things are universal.

Is Calexit on the ballot? Never got mine. Yes, I am registered. Got on line and there my real name was. Said I am registered. But also said my ballot was not counted in 2016, even though I voted. Reason: N/A. What the heck is that all about? Is it because I am part Injun, is it cum breath Clerk recorder?? I was registered in 2016, am still registered, and my ballot was NOT counted. Guess that means I voted in vain. Darn, I wanted to vote for Trump. Well, you public servants accept my county taxes and cash the check Lockett split, didn’t you, you worthless County fuck heads. Anyway, I digress.

The point. Why Calexit? Because liberals want to be in power and have not gotten over the fact that Trump won. They are like going on a first date with a gal who can’t get over her last awful boyfriend. “He did this, he did that, he, he, he, he, blah, blah, blah. Then they wonder why nobody calls them back. Makes sense they have no policies to put forth because still hung up on their last boyfriend. “Trump did this to me, Trump is awful, Trump blah, blah, blaaaaaah, blaaaah”.

So, they don’t want to live with Deplorables, not for a New York minute...unless they are in charge and can control what they do, say, and think. Fuck America, Calexit! They must not be challenged. Their way is the ONLY way. Trump did this, Trump did that, Trump, Trump, Trump. Then Trump did this and then Trump won, blaaaaaaah.!” Birds of a feather flock together and are like pigeons who peck away at those different from their group

Then they get upset that some like moi relishes the idea (in concept) of a State of Jefferson, or New California, or just not wanting to be anywhere near the Nazi Liberals. It never occurs to the “Democrat Socialistc progressives” or Green Libertarians that half of America wants nothing to do with them. Absolutely nothing, except we don’t want to control them or have authoritarian rule over them. That’s not who we are....but I do hate control freaks, MS-13, Hamas, and George Soros.

Figure Calexit folks don’t want no State of Jefferson. They want all of CA, yet not all of CA wants them, lol. What is that quote from William Buckley Jr? Oh yeah.

“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”

jon smith

GR 11:04
Back at you George:

"Why do Republicans want to continue living with us as citizens of the same state?" We liberals love it here. You obviously hate the vast majority of Californians and our belief system. Who's keeping you from moving to some redneck dream destination like El Paso or Birmingham?

Walt

"vast majority" my ass. That term is used by Proggys when they are quaking in their birkenstocks from fear. Seen the stats lately jonboy? The folks in this state are wising up.
Humm. Now I didn't see any Calexit in any form on the ballot. More BS from your butthurt Proggyville.
Unlike you jon"shitforbrains" smith, the "Redneck" is an America lover. You don't even have the balls GOD gave lizards. Still using and AKA. OH... Did I insinuate you have a pair? They say Bigfoot exists too. (yet to be proven)
I love it when you try and make predictions.( Put the farm on the other bet) You have NEVER been right yet.

Gregory

"jon" 412pm

"Why do Republicans want to continue living with us as citizens of the same state?" We liberals love it here. You obviously hate the vast majority of Californians and our belief system. Who's keeping you from moving to some redneck dream destination like El Paso or Birmingham?"

"Can't we all just get along?" - Rodney King

You are truly delusional if you think the vast majority of your bre'r Californians share any belief system, including yours. You can't even lay claim to the vast majority of Nirvana County, which, the last I saw, was pretty well split down the middle.

With the upcoming Janus decision from the SCOTUS that is expected to decimate public employee union coffers in 22 mostly Dem states, and the upcoming Trumpian US Census, there may be a blunting of the Nirvana of a one party state. Don't count your voters before they've hatched.

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jonnie boy at 2:17 - "Who in the world suggested that we want to continue living with you?"
No one, actually - you can leave anytime you'd like.
"As I said, George's is a baseless and arrogant assumption."
Just repeating yourself is not the same as expanding on, and explaining whatever point it is you're trying to make. But if that's all Polly the Parrot can do...

Robert Cross

Vast majority your ass -- According to the CA Sec. of State office. --About 45% of registered voters are Democrats; 25% no preference; 25% Republican; and 5% Other. These statistics were as of 4/6/18. I think it would be correct to say that almost twice the number of Democrats as Republicans is, in fact, a vast majority.

Walt

Speaking of LIB voters,,, A new one is ripe for the DEM voter roll.
If he didn't vote LIB,, he may vary well soon enough.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/28/little-caesars-employee-shoots-attacker-in-clown-mask/

Walt

HAY Bobby. Just like the AGW horse shit "it's settled". Lefty dipshits try using that line again. LOL!
"A New York Times columnist declared in Monday’s paper that it is a “settled fact” at this point that President Donald Trump “is a racist and white supremacist.” "
You clowns just don't know when to give it up.. But continue on with the self destruction.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/28/new-york-times-columnist-trump-white-supremacist/
Even the Lefty minorities are leaving the DEM plantation.

fish

Posted by: jon smith | 28 May 2018 at 04:12 PM

Who's keeping you from moving to some redneck dream destination like El Paso or Birmingham?


Nobody is keeping anyone from moving. If you had been paying attention you would have noticed! It just seems to me that in your quest for your utopian dream state ceding some territory might help you reduce the presence of deplorables in your new improved California!

Walt

Yes. Bobby. Ca. has been SOOOOO GREAT under Communist rule. Then tell why plenty have been LEAVING, and taking their riches with them. The state will run out of taxable people soon enough.

The "jon" will be singing the Ca. blues in due time. I can't wait for the ten thousand dollar cap on tax breaks kick in. I love the sound of bitching LIBS in the morning.

Bill Tozer

25% Republican in this state? Way to high. Think it is about 19% in CA. The Republicans have fled the party in droves and the Dems have their voter rolls growing like Jack’s beanstalk. No doubt about it. 25% undecided and 5% other. That 5% are probably the communist party and assorted disgruntled anarchists. That other 25% must be me. May have left, but didn’t go anywhere.

Walt

OK Lefties,, Thanks to you,(well,,, not personally) Downtown Baghdad is a safer place.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/28/8-people-killed-25-wounded-in-bloody-weekend-in-chicago.html
How come your Dear Leader didn't fix it? Just a few protests, and it should have stopped.

scenes

Walt: "The "jon" will be singing the Ca. blues in due time. "

No need to. Both jon and Robert Cross appear to live in a Whiteopia in the marches between the real California and Nevada. The place they defend ain't where they live.

The real California invents laws that the rural counties get to follow, like it or not.

It's a good experimental lab for liberalism, though. Quite a lot of dough, single party government, a happy mixture of illegal aliens, first generation legal immigrants, and well-meaning liberals. The predictable result was no forward motion on health care, an ever expanding scrum of homeless people, expensive universities, new taxes wherever they can be raised, some rich people, and a well paid bureaucracy. It's basically a slow motion movement to a larger version of Brazil.

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jonnie boy at 4:12 - where did that 'quote' come from? It's become obvious that you don't even understand what GR was talking about at 11:04.
Then jonnie really runs off the rails - "You obviously hate the vast majority of Californians and our belief system." Really? Proof?
And please, please, please jonnie boy - let us in on that 'belief system' you're talking about.

Walt

This tells of the Ca. Proggys.
https://nypost.com/2018/03/02/california-dems-hard-left-turn-could-be-the-whole-partys-future/

I will skip to the red meat.
"Historically, the Golden State has been a harbinger of national trends. If that holds true, the whole Democratic Party is headed right . . . er, left . . . off the cliff."

LIBS in the state are not done with their voter games. They stacked the deck with getting suckers to vote for the jungle primary system, and it worked. NOW, they gave us a "ballot in every mail box" Then send the young storm troopers out in the dead of night to pilfer as many as possible.( I know,,, voter fraud just doesn't happen.)

scenes

ScottO "jonnie boy - let us in on that 'belief system' you're talking about. "

You know, I'd like to hear that too. I'll respectfully listen and ask questions in order to clarify. I'm flat bored with ",,,I HATE ORANGE HITLER TRUMPSKI AND DIDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA THE SECOND TIME,,,,". It's a vacuous position.

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scenes at 6:29 - "It's basically a slow motion movement to a larger version of Brazil."
Which one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HtHEgINHO0
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gilDytj4Bk
Or maybe both?

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scenes at 6:52 - A left wing belief system is like a sub-atomic particle. If you identify it, it then changes and you can't tell where it's going.

Gregory

Bobby 534pm

My, you are dumber than a sack of hammers.

45% isn't a "vast majority", it's less than half. Barely a plurality unless enough of the other 55% unite against you in which case, you lose to their plurality.

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Gregory - hush! Bobby is going to let us in on his 'belief system'. I'm getting the popcorn out. This will be better than that new Star Wars movie.

Walt

Let me take a shot at that Lefty "belief system"
The first, and foremost, other people's money. They can't live without it. Laws they pass are to control the people.That's why the hate Trump so much. He is working to remove those laws as fast as Presidentialy possible. That's like burning their Proggy bible.
They believe they are master intellects.( SO much smarter than anyone else) Kinda like a German we all read about.
They believe their lying is justified. The end, ALWAYS justifies the means. ( Exhibit A,, Gold dredging is evil. It stirs up the mercury.BAN dredging... ECO bastards spend huge bucks removing mercury. And how? By DREDGING of coarse. It's OK when they do it)

Paul Emery

Other peoples money Walt? You mean the millions that the La Malfa family have sucked up from government subsidies. why is that ok but rent or health care subsidies are bad?

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 28 May 2018 at 07:50 PM


Why are there Ag subsidies for LaMalfa to collect at all Punch?

fish

Why don’t I close italics?

Bill Tozer

Well, it only cost us $350,000.00 to not send me my ballot. Gee, thanks for choosing us to be your guinea pig, oh blessed golden shower state. Next time pick on Placer or Lake County, would ya? Thanks guys (dear readers) for paying for it. We are awash in cash here in God’s Country.

Now, let’s look at the bright side. Rome was not built in a day. Inch by inch. Next governor just might be Pelosi’s nephrew. He lost a good thing when he lost Kimberly. And that Berra X hush hush thang when he was the Democrat Congressional Caucus head honcho and did not report to the Capital Police when the DCCC computers done got hacked. You know, the Debbie wants her laptop back connection. All those DCCC computers with massive amount of data leaving the server...a Bozo no-no, and X Man does not pick up the phone. Heck, they walked right out the door carrying the physical server, ROFLMAO. Elvis has left the building and Mr. Berra X is back looking for a new gig. Just like Flake.

Nah, that’s just wishful thinking. Not necessary. Inch by inch. A point here, a 1/4 point there, here a nudge, there a nudge, everywhere a nudge nudge, e-i-e-i-o. As long has Trump has rent rent in their broken thinkers, they won’t.think...er....strike that....they cannot think straight. That’s a good thing. How long does it take for come to grips with the fact they lost and, to make matters worse, its slip sliding away.slowly but surely like sand through the fingers.

https://www.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343.55586.217926015008110/1315446191922748/?type=3&theater

jon smith

You reject that "vast majority" of Californians are not lock step with the right wing? Please let me in on your secret society. Show me the Republican majorities here. Hell, show me where you are even on a level playing field with us progressives here in the great state of California. As Bessee so loves to parrot, "We won, get over it." Get over it and move if you hate us libs and California so much.

Bill Tozer

Is it time for the anti-Christian tirade? Should I call the whambulance in advance? Yo, jon, you can claim CA. There, there. Want a doggie treat to make all the yucky feelings go away?

fish

Damn

Did it work?

fish

Finally!

Gregory

"jon" and Bobby Cross

If you would take off the asshats, you might notice that the negation of your claims that there are a vast majority of Democrats/Progressives isn't that there are a vast majority of Conservatives, which suits me fine 'cause I'm not a conservative or a Republican. It's that there aren't a vast majority of Progs and LibDems, period. Cash has been keeping it together.

You do not have a permanent majority of left and hard left Dems. In fact, statewide, you don't even have a majority... which is 50% plus one vote. What happens if the public employee union geese stop delivering cash? What happens when AGW collapses as a scary monster to keep the kiddies in line?

The winged flying monkeys keeping disorder in the golden state's Ministry of Love have been the public employee unions. That's about to go bye-bye, by a number of folks in the know. Good luck.

Bill Tozer

La Mafia again? They always spout how much he has gotten over 20 years. Like, it’s probably around 350k/year. Darn, that magic 350k keeps popping up.
Well, Punchy may have a point. That money could go to all those Central American single mothers with multiple rug rats in the Caravan applying for asylum. Might cover a handful of them. Maybe 7 or 8.

Which begs the question. With these thousands of non-English speaking uneducated rural Central American women with little ones in tow showing up at the border crossings fleeing abusive men, then why on earth would we let wife beating males and husbands from those regions in? Bad ju-ju. Nah, that ain’t right. That’s not who were are as a civil society.

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jonnie boy at 8;32 - Who are you talking to?
You asserted certain facts at 4:12 that I asked you to provide evidence or proof thereof.
You don't seem to be able to back up your statements.
Moreover you continue your tirade: "Get over it and move if you hate us libs and California so much."
First of all - you're not 'liberal' in any sense of the word. And we don't hate you, we feel sorry for you.
None of us hate California, we are just sad to see it sink down into a dystopian mess. What happened to that belief system of yours? It seemed so important a while ago, now you don't have it handy.

Walt

Really Paul? You just had to go there. Your the last one who should be bitching about subsidies. KVMR stop sucking at the gov.tit?
(Arrogance will get you every time.)

Walt

If this is any indicator on how the election may trend,
http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/28/nra-members-six-million/

Proggys are in for another rough thump'n.

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ScottO: "What happened to that belief system of yours?"

I'm still interested in the jon smith manifesto myself. Even a PowerPoint would be of some value.

It's gotta be a big tent as it includes millions of illegals from Mexico and Central America, the good patriots at Google, Starbucks executives, men in dresses, and the intellectuals at modern university humanities departments. The commonality is unclear, aside from a dislike of what once was.

I mean, heck, it takes a lot hands to pull down some of those statues.

scenes

While I'm waiting for the manifesto, I ran into this article. Not bad and worth mulling over.

https://www.hoover.org/research/great-german-meltdown

Bill Tozer

The manifesto is clear. Burn, baby, burn. But then again, I don’t see jon smith as the type who really gives a rat’s ass if some Iranian or Polish dude opens up a Greek hole-in-the-wall diner.....but his New Democrat Party does. That sucking sound you here is all the old school Democrats getting sucked out to deepest far left field and beyond, you reasonable man, you.

Paul Emery

Walt

Why don't you call KVMR and find out exactly what "subsidies" KVMR receives. 265 9073
Here are the details on LaMalfa. Nice work if you can get it.

"The farm owned in part by Rep. Doug LaMalfa, R-Calif., received at least $5.3 million in farm subsidies between 1995 and 2016. LaMalfa is a member of the House Agriculture Committee, which has jurisdiction over farm subsidies."

https://www.ewg.org/agmag/2017/11/federal-lawmakers-harvest-15-million-farm-subsidies#.Wwzmeqkh1Bw

Bill Tozer

5.3 million divided by 12 years is 440k per year divided by La Malfa’s part (2-3 or more owners of the farm) would be 147k or less to 220k max per year average. Yep, those farm subsidy bills are one complicated stack upon stack of laws, regulations, subsidies, and even includes help for the little guy to compete and keep the family farm. Open spaces and all. Otherwise the little guy could not compete with the big boys and would have to sell the land to some evil developers....for a tidy profit. I like open spaces and everybody has to eat. Heck, Nevada County is a rural county and the gobberment pays big land owners here to keep grazing cattle and not sb Divide. It’s part of our charm. Like Mayberry Cheaper than building Section Eight housing.....for a poor refugees who just want a better life than they had in their shithole countries. It’s for the children, who also have to eat.

Bill Tozer

Grow corn and invest in Pacific Ethanol!

Walt

Memory fading again Paul? I recall when you stated KVMR would do just fine if the gov. money was cut off.. Then not long after there was a story in the local rag where the KVMR office folk stated otherwise. "It would be a big blow if we lost that funding".

Thou shalt not bitch if one receives from the same slop trough.
Typical LIB response there Paul, "it's OK when we do it".
I don't give a rat's ass if it's a dollar from the man, or ten thousand. Your double standard lives on.

scenes

https://www.kvmr.org/sites/default/files/KVMR%209-30-17%20Final%20FS.pdf

Bill Tozer

Popinjay sez:
“Walt. Why don't you call KVMR and find out exactly what "subsidies" KVMR receives. 265 9073
Here are the details on LaMalfa.. Nice work if you can get it.”

Just the facts, ma’am.

“Federal funding represents 18 percent of KVMR's budget, $174,000 this year, and officials say it could have a devastating impact on the nearly 40-year-old Nevada City community radio station.....

Federal grants help fund every aspect of KVMR's operating costs, including live broadcasts, the news department, salaries for the 10-member staff and four contractors, and equipment. Recent grants have allowed the station to invest in more equipment, which has made more live broadcasts ­­— including forums on veterans issues, cannabis and Centennial Dam debates — possible.”

https://www.theunion.com/news/business/trumps-budget-proposal-would-cut-18-percent-of-kvmrs-annual-budget/

Hmmm. I best read that again. Federal grants help fund every aspect of KVMR's operating costs, including...the news department, salaries for the 10-member staff....”

Yep, “Nice work if you can get it.” Wonder how many folks could get rent and health care subsidies with that money?

scenes

I tried to post this before but some software black hole swallowed it up.

https://www.kvmr.org/sites/default/files/KVMR%209-30-17%20Final%20FS.pdf

Personally, I think I'm anti-farm subsidy, but don't know the side effects if you cut them off. Probably food prices would rise and then I'd get to hear about the starving poor. Dunno why SNAP is part of that whole world, but it makes for crazy politiking.

KVMR. A cool hobby for a number of people, kind of like the railroad museum. I wish someone underwrote things that I like to do.

Paul Emery

I guarantee you Walt KVMR has not received 5 mil from the government. It's the incredible hypocrisy that LaMalfa is willing to cut off poor folks from food stamps while getting millions for so called "subsidies". I thought you believed in free enterprise. You are a Fake conservative like Todd.

Todd Juvinall

Oh Paul Emery stop it. LaMalfa farms food and society gets a benefit for all that work. And he has many employees. KVMR plays crap music and its news shows suck. Alll lefty tripe. Putting a work requirement on food stamp and welfare recipients is a good thing. Teach them to fish. You really are a lefty liberal sap, aren't you? Tell the readers how much free dough your KVMR gets. Are you afraid?

Bill Tozer

Says the fake libertarian. Ok, Punchy, how much as the amateurhobby station received from the government over the last 40 years? To be fair, the hobby lobby certainly got some cheap rent. That is a good thing.

M

,,,Fake Conservative = RINO!!!

Don Bessee

Collusion, the only collusion evidenced is the dems and shrillary -


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/05/29/russian-lobbyist-at-trump-jr-meeting-admits-personal-relationship-with-hillary-clinton-dem-campaign-staffers/

;-)

jon smith

Paul 3:31-
Thank you for your service. Apparently this patriotic hodge hodge only sees fit to thank and salute only their "real" heroes who returned home as Republicans, and not those POWs that got caught, or those that "simply" cared for the bodies of young men sent to die on foreign soil. Thank you Paul, for all those who never will.

Bill Tozer

ABC cancels the Roseanne Show, stocks tumble. Cross an Iranian with a character from Planet of the Apes....only a comedian could come up with that. That tops that White House corespondents’ dinner where that female comedian hurled those zingers at my beloved Sarah Hucklebee Sanders. Well, neither Roseanne, Valerie, or Kathy G are exactly known as beauty queens, but there is something special about Sarah.....

Paul Emery

This is disgraceful for the Trump administration. Total incompetence from FEMA. Heads should roll.


Hurricane Maria’s Death Toll In Puerto Rico 70 Times Higher Than Official Estimates: Study
Over 4,600 people died in the aftermath of Maria, according to a new Harvard study. The official death toll is 64.

Lest we forget President George W. Bush, who jovially told his FEMA chief Michael Brown cameras rolled, "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job."

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hurricane-maria-puerto-rico-death-toll_us_5b0d623fe4b0fdb2aa57022c

Paul Emery

Glad you like Sarah Bill. She's a professional liar not someone to admire.

George Rebane

Here's a brain twister. What would you name a funding bill that directs 80+% of its monies to welfare in the form of food stamps and other 'nutritional supplement' programs, and less than 20% to agricultural subsidies? Bonus points for correctly answering 'What party does not want to change the bill's longstanding and current name?'

Todd Juvinall

Sarah Sanders? She is a rock star. Maybe Paul Emery could take some lessons on how to do journalism and question answering from her. And jonnieS is now kissing Paul's brown eye. You libs crack me up.

M

,,,po ol Sarah Sanders,,,btw when did everyone stop using her maiden name? Sarah probably did not lie,,,she just regurgitated the incompetence coming out of the Oval Office.

Paul Emery

Todd

Care to refresh us with your military service. I am an honorably discharged Veteran. Are you questioning that? While you're at it Todd why not ask Don Bessee the same question.

Bill Tozer

Punchy, you said you would never reply to anyone who did not afdress you as Paul or Paul E. Well, that makes you a professional liar. Not to be admired is a given. By your own actions, you, Punchy are a liar and a leech on government handouts to boot. Now, remember your own words, Punchy. You cannot respond...that would make you a liar...which is a given and hads been repeatledy proven.

Have a nice day.

scenes

PaulE: "I am an honorably discharged Veteran. "

Did they convert reservists into veterans? Congratulations if so.

Bill Tozer

See ya at the VA!

jon smith

Bessee, how about a stock market report, or are you still busy with the razor and a straightedge as you attempt to make certain your beard is just so fancy dandy?

M

Dow tumbles nearly 400 points on Italy fears and US-China trade tensions!!!

What tension??? Ivanka just received a bunch of trademarks from the Chinese to help her businesses at the same time trumpski is lending a hand to Chinese espionage company ZTE!!!

What's the problem???

M

Rosanne and L'il Donny,,,dumb and dumber,,,

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-jr-retweets-roseanne-barrs-discredited-george-soros-claims-201243372.html

Don Bessee

Wow, razor and a straightedge? Talk about dating yourself@ 137. '-)

Paul Emery

Scenes
Yes, you are a Veteran if you were honorably discharged which I was. Six months active duty, y years two weeks every summer, 5 and a half years one weekend a month. How bout you Don Bessee. Wanna talk about your military service?

Gregory

Punchy 1137am

I finally got around to reading the HuffPo article you linked, and was not surprised to find you completely missed the sleight of hand.

The "official death toll" is the confirmed dead as a result of the storm. Like a tree falling on you, or a drowning.

The toll by the Harvard study added in folks whose health care went south after the storm, and died not during the storm but after it. Perhaps long after it.

To wit:"Interruption of medical care was the primary cause of the increase in mortality rates in the months after the hurricane, according to the study. Researchers said their 4,645 estimate is “likely to be conservative” and the death toll may actually exceed 5,000."

In other words, people in poor health died sooner than expected. In the months after the hurricane.

Walt

Paul.. The weekend warrior. The full timers laugh at thee.
I bet you got good at shining officers shoes on those weekends.
Now... Just what did you do the rest of the time? Piss and moan about how rough you had it?

Walt

@ Capt. clueless. Trump isn't President of Italy. Nice try.
Maybe Paul should go home to fix things.

Don Bessee

So the po' ol' fakenewsman is back with the same old every election cycle. Ok, if you as a weekend warrior can sneer at people who had a draft number like Todd who didn't get called I guess active federal military service can sneer at a weekend warrior. Yes ya po' ol' fakenewsman I have shared my DD form 214 over the years with people who matter to refute the crap from the growers and it does not show what they peddled. Much like the 'sheriffs business card' you guys were shopping around and even had Pelline go to the sheriff with. The problem was it was made with the wrong NCSO emblem and the wrong phone number, remember that Dr. R? While I love the Marines I never was one. Don't you remember going through this 2 yeas ago and 2 before that? Memory fade or just following the talking points for Nevada county lefties? ;-)

Paul Emery

So you never served in the Military Don?

Don Bessee

Don't you know what a DD214 is ya po' ol' fakenewsman? ;-)

Todd Juvinall

Maybe Paul Emery never got one? LOL! I thought it was issued to every discharged veteran?

Paul Emery

Well pardon me Don if you are saying you served a full four year term in the Armed forces and were discharged after that. what branch did you serve in?

jon smith

A DD214 means Don rwas eleased from military service. He could have been dishonorably discharged for smoking weed or, Lord have mercy, have discovered a bone spur and gotten a medical discharge. In and of itself a DD214 is about meaningless. I smell a cover up.

Gregory

Punchy 641pm

What I read from DB is that he has a DD214. Nothing more, nothing less.

Let's see, facing the draft... two years of carrying an M16 through rice paddies as a draftee, four years of enlistment or 6 years if you stay in college (and ROTC)until you graduate starting the six year clock but you enter the service as a fraggable 2nd lieutenant. Or the reserves, with six months to start (including basic) and then part time, a weekend a month and a 2week vacation every year, courtesy of Uncle Sam. Equivalent to one year hard time, if you don't get called up for extended active duty.

All are honorable. I chose another legal and honorable option... I registered, lived with my 1H draft status and never got called.

M

,,,trumpski girlfriend is such a douchebag,,,and trumpski whines about players taking a knee

MAGA

https://youtu.be/51Ai3Tp2pQ0

Paul Emery

Gregory

Being sent to Travis AFB for two weeks in the summer to unload caskets of
American soldiers is not exactly a 2 week vacation. You are an idiot if you believe it was. there were four reserve units of our type on the West Coast. Two were activated. Mine wasn't but we were told to be ready to go with a two week notice.

Todd Juvinall

M is right, Stormie is a douchebag gold digger and she even sucks at that!

Todd Juvinall

Walt did you say you were in Vietnam and under fire?

Don Bessee

Hey, here is an idea for ya po' ol' fakenewsman @641, search back exactly 2 and 4 years ago for this same thread here. The facts have not changed. My DD214 reads honorable. Just the same as when the usual suspects had peddled their stories before but had the service wrong.

Just because some scumbag puts something in a declaration many years back in someone else's divorce does not make it so especially if its not in evidence file or transcripts!

So which of your favorite local candidates are we takin' the rhetorical hickory to so it hurts?
Perhaps it has to do with that little complaint I recently filed against a local campaign manager with the CA Sec State? Or perhaps its both.

;-)


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Walt

Crapper "jon" can't even get the 214 right. It's generated from your first day in basic. It's your history. Everything you ever do while your considered government property. Every award, every disciplinary action.

Now didn't Paul Give Bush crap for being a weekend warrior? Paul.. Your Daddy help you out? That's what you said about Bush. Ya' gotta be special to get weekend warrior gigs and stay close to home.
And a hospitality unit no less. ( You made the mistake of actually saying which one a while back.. Yup,, I looked it up.)
Mine is long extinct. Yours is still active.
I belonged to a Red Horse unit.( AF equivalent to Navy SEABEEs)
We were combat trained. 90% of USAF is non combat.(you do know that,, right?) Pilots, security police, the PJs, and civil engineering( nice title) are pretty much it for being weaponized.
Just for the sake of gloating, my best bud was the VARY first to qualify to man an M60, air force wide on our AFSC.( remember what that means?)
The Pentagon realized Civil Engineering were the real pricks of the AF, and put us to good use. We got aggressor training as well.
OH the hell we gave others when war game time came. We REALLY,, REALLY,, got into the spirit of it, and didn't play nice.

And you? Gen. Chester's golf caddy? any tails of the water hazard?

Walt

Me? Nam??? Nope. My gig was in the early 80's. Grenada. Never heard of it before that day came.
It's our Son who has seen most of the deployments. It was his C130 that dragged Noriega out of Panama. Then later, the rescue of Jessica Lynch. Yup, our Son has been in the up close and personal
of so many actions. His DD214 has plenty of redaction's. After 20 years I say he's done his part.

Paul Emery

I gave Bush crap because he bailed early Walt.

How many years did you serve Don and why did you get out early? Army, Navy or Air Force?

Paul Emery

I agree with you Walt.

Walt

And back to the here and now,,
If Ca. is such a safe zone for elected LIBS,, Then why are the proggys spending BIG money they don't have, to keep Calif. blue as portacrapper water? Now what was Crapper "jon" saying about "vast majority"? If that was the case, then why the cash(or IOU is more like it) outlay by the crazy trainload?
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/05/29/democrats-spend-millions-in-california-primary-disaster/

Gregory

"Being sent to Travis AFB for two weeks in the summer to unload caskets of
American soldiers is not exactly a 2 week vacation. You are an idiot if you believe it was."

Punchy 724pm

You are an even bigger idiot if you hallucinated that I said it was.

Walt

I got a new pointy stick to jab at lil'"jon".
Yup, How GREAT Calif. is, under Proggy rule. The dumbing down of school kids.
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/education/article210186799.html
"From 2003 through 2016, about 18,000 more elementary and secondary school teachers left California than came from other states, according to a Bee review of U.S. Census Bureau data."
And they went to Texas.

Bill Tozer

“This is what we can do and it’s a win-win: to have a fee on carbon. So if you are raising livestock and producing a lot of carbon dioxide with your farm equipment and the exhaust from the animals, then you would pay a fee on that and it would be reflected in the price of meat, reflected in the price of fish, reflected in the price of peanuts.” —Bill “The Science Lie” Nye (“We used to joke that they would raise taxes on cow farts, and now here a guy is proposing it.” —Rush Limbaugh)

https://patriotpost.us/cartoons/26191

Todd Juvinall

Pelline is now spinning the Roseanne fiasco as if Trump is to blame for setting a "tone". That is how liberals think and of course, they blame others. Rosanne took the tweet down and apologized. For a liberal, that would usually be enough and they get their job back. But when a conservative or a Trump supporter makes a gaffe like she did, it is the burning pit of hell for you and never returns. As an aside I seem to recall she is Jewish. So if she was a liberal she would be crying ANTI-SEMITE yet she has not done that. She and those she tweeted about are "protected" groups. We see who has the most protection don't we?

Walt

I hate it sometimes when I'm right.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/05/29/apple-google-headcount-taxes-three-silicon-valley-cities-just-the-start/
Ca. is pissed it didn't think of it first.
"“If we are successful in putting something together and (getting it) approved, I believe other job-rich communities will try to put their own measures on the ballot,” Mountain View Mayor Lenny Siegel said. “I’ve been talking to councilmembers in a number of other cities. They are interested.”

You can count on those taxes to be passed onto the consumers.

M

,,,Todd,,,you forgot to mention Roseanne’s totally disrespectful singing and spitting on the National Anthem...

,,,take a knee Roseanne,,,

,,,sorry your favorite show got cancelled,,,

,,,Will wonders never cease,,,Shep Smith of Fox tells it like it is,,,read it and weep,,,

http://theweek.com/speedreads/775944/fox-news-shep-smith-firmly-dismantles-trumps-unfounded-claims-about-spygate

scenes

re: Roseanne.

I figure that the network is welcome to fire people anytime they want (like any employer should be able to do). Barr's third mistake, aside from touching a third rail and not being particularly funny, is to apologize. There's absolutely no good that can come from apologizing. Trump appears to be one of the few who knows this.

No doubt you'll see lot of comparisons between Barr and the NFL kerfuffle, although doing it on national TV vs. doing it on your own time is a somewhat different situation.

What I'd like to see go up in smoke is monopoly holdings of entertainment and media. In a sense, getting kicked off your show, or twitter, or youtube, or GoDaddy, isn't such a bad thing since it just might encourage people to start their own.

Good thing that Wanda Sykes quit in a huff though. She has a better touch at knowing what's acceptable speech.

https://twitter.com/iamwandasykes/status/1000511662653366274
https://twitter.com/iamwandasykes/status/930999556606640128

scenes

re: Walt@6:44 and city taxes.

I think Victor Hanson nailed it on a discussion I watched once in declaring that various 'use taxes' are the wave of the future. All of these cities have a big pension problem and an ever increasing marginal expense to get anything done.

Even a ratchet up in property taxes due to prices won't bail them out, so it's easier to just assign a fee to anything you can name. Each individual one makes some sense and the aggregate will pay the bills. I did a quick look-up of Sunnyvale vs. Grass Valley's budget per citizen and it's 2 1/3 times as high, so it looks like running a town is a pretty elastic thing.

Todd Juvinall

M at 650
Never watched her show bub. If you can't see the hypocrisy then you are a dyed in the wool commie like we think you are.

M

,,,Todd,,,'''commie'''???,,, still living in the 1950s???,,,better get yourself down in your fallout shelter!!!

fish

Posted by: M | 30 May 2018 at 06:50 AM


read it and weep,,,


Read it and plotz Dougski! Better tell your minder it’s time for a new one!

“Depends”......as reliable as the mainstream media and containing the same stuff!

Todd Juvinall

M no don't need one. When you commies try to take over you will be met with adequate responses.

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