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25 August 2018

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rl crabb

Like I've said all along: one eye blind. Of course the right is immune to any hint of myopia. ;)

George Rebane

rlc 1223pm - spoken like a true clear-eyed leftist, as noted ;-)

BTW, good cartoon in today's (25aug18) Union. Reminds me of the reports about the operations of UK's National Health Service, and the things to come when the Dems finally push through our single-payer nationalized healthcare system.

Don Bessee

You tell em sister!

While President Trump is busy making America great again, Democratic socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez – who is expected to win a U.S. House seat in November in a heavily Democratic congressional district in New York City – is calling for policies that would turn the American Dream into the American Nightmare.
If you think the “socialist paradise” nations of Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea are the greatest countries on the planet, Ocasio-Cortez is the candidate for you.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/08/25/ocasio-cortezs-socialist-fairytale-could-destroy-american-dream.html

;-)

George Rebane

DonB 1241pm - And DNC chair Perez anoints her as the future of the Democratic Party. What sane American would knowingly vote for a future from such a future?

Don Bessee

They are on the march -

Knowles said Saturday that he believes Democratic Socialists are targeting the teaching industry and as a result, students, because they can't win against adults.
"They can't win in the battle of ideas," he said.
He said that instead, Democratic Socialists are trying to cut off any thought of freedom by students and replace it with socialist ideology.
"They've got to indoctrinate an ideology rather than educate in history because if they teach history, they're going to lose," he said.
The pamphlet notes that organizing in schools is a way to "win concessions from the millionaire and billionaire class."

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/08/25/young-democratic-socialists-america-releases-pamphlet-targeting-teachers-unions-michael

;-)

rl crabb

It's something to watch you all moaning over the Mueller purge. In the last few days, we see that the rats are crawling all over each other to get a deal with the traitorous Justice Dept. before Captain Twit blows any more self-inflicted holes in the hull.
It reminds me of those fun days of the Starr years when they would trot out Susan McDougal barefoot in chains to scare the living shit out of anyone who refused Kenny's advances. https://snn.bz/susan-mcdougal/
History does tend to repeat itself, horribly. Slick Willy managed to avoid walking the plank. Will Trump be as lucky?

George Rebane

DonB 130pm - And this makes it clear why the socialists of whatever hue are the 'enemies of the people'. 'Let me educate just one generation of children, and communism will rule the world.' V. Lenin. The Dems have had over two generations of America's children.

Bill Tozer


RE:IMHO National left/right polarization will make a quantum leap to a much higher level in the next twelve months....

One thing that is readily apparent to me is the stuff that is happening in the cities across our great land is not happening here in the foothills. Thus, posting comments about Antifa burning up UC Berekly to protest Milo rings hallow to locals on the Left. There is no hounding people out of business in Nevada City because someone of the wrong ethnicity is serving food from a different ethnicity., aka, cultural appropriation.
There is no outcry against micro-aggressions, no thought police running amok hauling one before a kangaroo court of their peers to face penatilies above and beyond the obligatory toxic masculinity re-education classes for making someone well uncomfortable by Invisible unconscious bias or the like.

There is not tearing down of statues past centuries built as monument to their time. Nevada City won’t need to tear down a statue of Sargant if they never put it up, lol.
No anti-Hate marches down Mill Street in GV or Broad Street in Nevada City with windows being smashed, reporters attracted, or police being screamed at and spat upon to show the world what anti-hate looks like. No calls for Grass Valley or the county to go through every ordinance and record on the books to remove gender specific pronouns. No demands for gender neutral bathrooms in our parks. Hey, a Johnny on the Spot works great for that purpose, but I will forge on.

No being chased out of restaurants for wearing a MAGA hat or having folks’ place of work and pictures of one’s abode circulated because one disagrees with my posts or someone says something offensive at a townhall. No we handle that pretty much in comments sections and let it be. Let our fingers do the walking.

The biggest thing that happened here in years and got the crowds riled up and on the overpass (as well as packing into the courtroom) was the Opossum Affair. The OWS issue got crowd up and out, but they looked more like a candlelight vigil. Temperatures rose when the debate went on and on about hanging those strings of lights over Commerical Street. Sure, the marijuana issues packed them in, but no cops were called to quell the unrest in the BOS chambers.
No MS-13 gangbangers running around these parts using machetes and torturing people before disembowelling them. No racial tensions boiling over on a nightly basis, no block against block, no neighborhood against neighborhood, no cries of Gentrification. Our neighborhoods are already middle class. And homogenous. And the antics of the Antafa and the Alt-Left seem so far away.

What I am trying to say is the club I use to hit back and wack the Unhinged and Lefties upside the head with are stories and articles and memes about what the Leftinistas are going other places....other places, not here. So, I noticed it often falls flat or misses by a mile because the targets have not a clue what I am talking about. They cannot relate. Uninformed. They don’t see it here, it’s not in their face here, it’s not in their daily lives here. Bashing what’s going on daily on our campuses is met with puzzlement because their minds go to Sierra College or what it was like when they went to Cal back in the day. Can’t relate.

With all that laid out, here there is indeed an unspoken tension. A sitting on your own farts, if you will. I don’t wear my MAGA hat in public. Not because I am afraid or ashamed, but I just want to get to the market without talking politics in the checkout line or go to grap a cup of mud without some look or sly comment. I ain’t out for a confrontation or wish to make a statement or be a billboard proclaiming my beliefs everywhere I go. But, then again, sticks and stones can break my bones and words can never hurt me. I will speak opening, caring little if overheard, but I ain’t looking to get in someone’s face at a diner nor do I want to have someone in my face when I am at the ATM. The problem is politics (Trump!) has taken too large of a role in [our] emotional and mental capacities. It needs to be put back in its place, cut back down to its proper size.

The other day the phone rang. An “emergency” came up (friend broken down on a street in GV) and I hit the door in seconds. Biker Bill to the rescue! I grabbed a ballcap on the way out of he door and fired up the bucket of bolts. It just so happened my friend was broken down in front of a old friend I have known for many years. Small world. She saw me and came straight over and gave me a big hug and we joyously exchanged how good it was to see each other again after these past years. Then her face changed dramatically and said, “Oh, you are one of those.” Unbeknownst to me, the ballcap I grabbed leaving the house in a rush was my prestine MAGA hat. I replied, “Yep, I am one of those!” I turned to help my friend whose car broke down and she turned and walked inside her home.

It’s here, just without the punches and spitting and getting in your face. And they are clueless because they don’t believe or won’t believe it can happen here. It’s coming, it’s here, whether or not you ever heard of Milo or shadow banning or The Great Divide.

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I suppose the most puzzling (to me) thing about what is happening in our country is the sincere belief by the left that our divide is because of 'divisive' rhetoric by Trump, etal.
Let's suppose they do impeach and throw out Trump. Then what? Has the left even thought that far? Well - some have. "And then we'll go after Pence". Yep - an actual quote.
Good luck with that.
The issues are still extant. Trump ran on issues he is really delivering on or trying to deliver on. That's why people voted for him. He had sex with not-his-wife? You mean like Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson and Reagan? Did he molest and rape like Clinton?
The left thinks getting rid of Trump will get rid of those who oppose their core principles. It won't. And it can get worse - much worse.
Free health care for everyone with open borders? Really? That's what the left wants. Not my opinion - it's their stated goal.
Just as a random add - guy down the street used to fly the American flag and the MIA flag. After the brouhaha with folks toppling civil war era statues, he started flying the Stars And Bars. He's not racist or southern or any of that. He's just upset at the left and their NAZI attitude and he's flying it just to piss them off.
This is all just going to escalate nation-wide.

Bonnie McGuire

Bless your hearts Bill T and Scott O!

scenes

BillT sez " So, I noticed it often falls flat or misses by a mile because the targets have not a clue what I am talking about."

I think there's a truth in that. I'm still LMAO about the concept of millions of 'gypsies' invading Europe by Mr. M

Maybe it's some sort of code, kind of like the use of 'Canadians' by restaurant servers.

The thing is, if you stay away from Evil Pubber Websites (or international news for that matter), you'll never hear anything about what is going on in the world. After all, they are mostly news aggregators and the CNNs of the world are going to mine only the Trumphate vein of ore until the money and clicks run dry.

In addition, the twists and turns of the state intelligence apparatus re:The Clintons and the like is so complicated that it's simpler to do a hand waving about conspiracy theories and go on to the next topic.


Fer GeorgeR "National left/right polarization will make a quantum leap"

http://peterturchin.com/cliodynamica/population-immiseration-in-america/

’’’M’’’

,,,yep, Crabb called it. The birther/deniers keep that patch firmly in place over their Left eye,,,same with Strassel and her ignore-ance of how Whitewater went down.

Bill Tozer

Re: The Union’s Letter to the editors (and jaw dropping claims). And it’s just going to get worse.

[Of course, there are always differences in opinions and latitude is freely given my moi to those who interpret thing differently than I would and do. No problem there. Take 6 artists and tell them to paint a picture of that oak tree over yonder and you will have six different paintings. But it’s still an oak tree, the same oak tree. Preamble disclaimer over.]

Scenes: while you are stuck on gypies, I am stuck on ‘what kind of lawyer would have his client plead guilty to a crime....blah, blah, blah. Answer: Maybe a Clinton Mob Boss lawyer, The Clinton Crime Syndicate fixer possibly is that kind of “trial lawyer”, lol.

What makes me have those ‘Say What?’ moments in the Union letters is I cannot believe how uninformed some folks are. Everything seems to get turned on its head, the instigator becomes the innocent bystander, the perpetuator becomes the victim. When I think nothing could surprise me anymore, I get surprised again. The torch carrying mob storming Dr. Frankenstein's lab is turned into Dr. Frankenstein’s lab is storming the peasants quietly sleeping in their hobbles. And what really get my jaw to hit the floor above all else is how the molehill becomes the mountain.... or the mountain simply does not exist.

We have seen the Project Veritas tapes. The Dem paid operatives planning how to disrupt Trump rallies, going out into the streets hiring homeless folks among others besides their reliable stable of go to thugs those that are willing, able, and pre-disposed to violence Then training them. Instructions are given what to do, placement of folks in front of cameras, off cameras, and all orchasted to get someone to react to flip the story that the Trump attendees are the aggressors and violent ones. The tapes have the planners recorded boasting on their success, how much they are paid by the Democrat Party, their tactics, etc. Pelt them with eggs, push them, strike them, shove them, scream and spit and punch women off camera..and if and when someone reacts....catch it on camera and put the tales of woe how innocent peacefull protestors are being viciously attacked, whipped up by Trump to commit violence, ROFLMAO. I especially liked the elderly disabled lady with the oxygen tank saying how awful it was that Trumpers attacked her, all the while she was paid in advance to be pushed by the Dem operatives, rehearsed it, then blame it on violent Trumpers. She spilled the beans to a “man on the street” reporter, was quite candid, and appreciated the money. Sign her up. Trumpers push down little old lady with oxygen tank!! Evil people do sick things...or is that sick people do evil things?

So, I read in the Union letters that ALL the violence is coming from one place and one place only: The Far Right. The extreme far far right that is outmof touch with the mainstream. And all the violence and hate and ALL the divisiveness is coming from Trump. That is the common theme I read a lot. Jaw dropping time.

It’s fake news! It’s a lie! It’s edited tapes! It never happened! It’s a conspiracy theory!
No, it’s ‘Say What?’ time.
If Mr. Cross was being truthful and really never heard that Comey wrote the exoneration letter of Hillary before 16 key witnesses (including My Gal Hill) were even interviewed, then I just have to believe him and wonder where exactly is he getting his “news”. Never heard of it? Ok, try Senate Intel Committee testimony for starters. Just starters. Like, it’s common FBI practice to write the conclusion before the evidence is collected, right?Conspiracy theory! They found nothing! Only 100 FBI agents on the case and 6 Justice Department lawyers from the cream of the cream DOJ-National Security Division all came to the opposite conclusion. But, that is ‘t the point, now is it?

Lady Justice has an eye patch on? One eyed trouser trout is more like it.


scenes

"M" sez: "The birther/deniers keep that patch firmly in place over their Left eye"

Birther? I don't much care where Obama was born given his mother's proclivity with sleeping with African political figures. As a US citizen, there's a strong moral case that he was one himself no matter what. As I remember, the only case to be made was that there was a change in US citizenship law floating around his birth year. We'll never know given the secrecy surrounding his background. It's not an argument I cared or care much about.

Denier? Of course there's human effect on ecosystems and a fairly large die-off that occurs when they show up on a piece of property. It's fair to say that the climate guys are (a)shitty at long term prediction and (b)attempting to roll in a resource grab and political change along with their pontificating. Want less ecological problems? Don't import masses of people to the first world, allow the West to decrease in population, for God's sake do something about Africa. I'm afraid that your recycling bin and Nissan Leaf aren't going to do squat.

Strawmen are boring.

Bill Tozer

And all this time I thought deniers were all about 9/11 being some CIA Deep State Bush knew in advance plot to take over the Middle East and all that oil. Kinda like the Pearl Harbor attack, but all those Zeros and old footage are kinda hard to explain away.

So, if Deniers are bad and Truthers are bad, is there any good out there?

scenes

"So, if Deniers are bad and Truthers are bad, is there any good out there?"

You know, probably not. When your belief system is built on tearing down what is... to replace it with a bit of hand waving about what could be... nothing that exists tends to be good.

I've always admired 'denier' though and it's quasi-Nazi ring. It's just further proof that the Left's foundation myth is built on Hitler and slavery rather than George Washington's cherry tree, the Mayflower, and Thermopylae.

fish

Don't import masses of people to the first world, allow the West to decrease in population, for God's sake do something about Africa. I'm afraid that your recycling bin and Nissan Leaf aren't going to do squat.


Not to mention all the disposable diapers that dugsKKKI burns through.

Todd Juvinall

I am in a twitter back and forth with some young babe calling herself "Love for Humanity". Anyway she has already convicted Duncan Hunter because he has 60 counts and is indicted. I said this is America and he has not even had a trial! She started the liberal namecalling then. I called her a fascist. LOL!

scenes

Remember back when John McCain was Hitler?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/2624044/Madonna-angers-John-McCain-with-Adolf-Hitler-jibe.html
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2008/2/15/457586/-

Jill Somerville

Hello. I'm new to this site. I'm enjoying the refreshing non-PC approach to discussing the issues of the day. I will read up on RR Fundamentals to get a better understanding of where you guys are coming from. Thank you.
-Jill Somerville

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Thanks, scenes - 3:45 McCain in uniform served our nation and I'll thank him for that, but as a so-called Republican he did not exactly honor the Constitution as a solon. He was called a 'maverick' which to me means he had no set principles of governance I could ever trust him with to uphold. He always seemed to be more inclined to be working for his own standing with the Washington in-crowd.
Of course when he ran for pres he was a NAZI as was Romney and Reagan when he was a governor and POTUS.
Amazing how fast their standings from satan to American hero go among the Dems and the American left.
The running joke now is how will the left find new superlatives of super-double-evilness if Pence takes the reins?

Gregory


Yes, McCain was evil and could do nothing right when he was running for Pres...according to the left. And Sarah Palin was a deplorable before it was cool, despite being a Governor of a very large state.

I can't say I've ever been impressed with McCain myself, but he deserves great respect for his service in wartime.

Todd Juvinall

Well said Gregory.

George Rebane

Welcome Jill Somerville, we look forward to your contributions.

Bill Tozer

“DonB 1241pm - And DNC chair Perez anoints her as the future of the Democratic Party. What sane American would knowingly vote for a future from such a future?
Posted by: George Rebane | 25 August 2018 at 01:02 PM”

With all the excited hype that the Conquering Cortex is the new face of the Democrat Party (and Bernie Sanders is now considered too far right by some) I decided to check out her victory that has rocked the Democrat Party.

“But only about 13 percent of registered Democrats turned out to vote in the 14th Congressional District that takes in parts of Queens and the Bronx, according to a preliminary city Board of Elections tally
There are 214,750 active registered Democratic voters in the district. Only 27,744 voted, and Ocasio-Cortez won by more than 4,000 votes.

In another hotly contested race in Brooklyn’s 9th Congressional District, Rep. Yvette Clarke squeaked by insurgent Adem Bunkeddeko 52 to 48 percent. But turnout was only about 9 percent — with 28,266 out of 313,949 eligible Democrats voting.”

https://nypost.com/2018/06/28/most-voters-stayed-home-for-stunning-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-win/


Bill Tozer

Re: scenes on Sandbox, 2:20 pm 8/27 about South Africa, the Boars, and the Afrikaans.

The short story (Readers Digest version) is the Dutch people up and moved their community 1,000 miles north to get away from the British after the British colonized the Cape. Tough independent people. Johannesburg is not Cape Town.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trekboer

To appear fair and balanced, the farther North by Northeast you go, the more the area is sparsely populated and the few police there are have to cover huge areas. Disclaimer over.

What gets me is the viciousness of the crimes. The time spent on these “botched” robberies/burglaries. Take Granny, kill her husband, then grab the Mikita and drill holes through her feet as she sits there. Then take a fork a dig out her eyeballs. If she cries out, she will be killed. She sits in silence thinking what else can they do to me. Botched robbery.

The other one that got me was a family in a home invasion. They young dad told them to take anything they want, just don’t hurt my family. Take all the money and things I have. His little daughter ran to her room and came back with her piggy bank. She held it up to the “burglar” and said, “Here, take this.” The armed man looked down at the little girl then raised his gun and shot her father between the eyes in front of her. Botched robbery.

And Seth Richards was a botched robbery with nothing missing and no signs of struggle.

George Rebane

I wonder where are our leftwingers here to continue downplaying the SA atrocities that the blacks are committing against white farmers. Some even accused those who pointed out the ongoing atrocities (these didn't start yesterday), covered up by SA's ANC, as being racists, thereby further diluting any meaning which that appellation may yet retain.

Bill Tozer

It’s revenge. Finally, our leftists get to extract their pound of flesh. Colonialism is an abhorrent evil. Must, must, must be atoned for. Never brought to justice. Just ask Obama’s grandfather, as told to young Obama by his father. Tales of My Father. Only POC are victims and only white people can be racists.

What this impeachment nonsense is all about is the Dems salavating over extracting their pound of flesh. Revenge for Bubba and revenge for racist America electing Trump. They are superior to us. They have waiting a long time for this hour, but not as long as I have waiting for The Wall...or a good orderly direction. SA is no different, no mattter how loudly the SA government says there is no racial or political motivations to the killings. Marxism.

Don Bessee

Aw crap, the socialist/dems might be having a brief bout of common sense -

The latest rallying cry from the far left to abolish Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) isn’t a likely winner this election year, as a new poll finds only a quarter of Democrats support eliminating the agency supported by the Trump administration.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/27/abolish-ice-sees-little-support-among-democrats-despite-left-wing-push-poll-finds.html

;-)

Bill Tozer

No one eyed Lady Justice here

Tomorrow Bruce Ohr is to appear before Congress in closed session to answer questions. A lot of questions in his role of keeping former British agent Chris Steele around after the FBI fired Steele and declared Steele not to be used as a source. Get out of here, Steele. And then there is Bruce’s wife-e-Pooh Nellie working for Fusion GPS and feeding Steele information to Bruce to feed back to the FBI.

Today, the NYT did a nice big profile on Bruce Ohr. Must be one of those amazing coincidences.

Russ

Victor Davis Hansen: Quite simply, the next time your elected local or state official holds a press conference about global warming, the Middle East, or the national political climate, expect to experience poor county law enforcement, bad municipal services, or regional insolvency.

Yes, that is what we get in California, lot of solutions to global issues when the state is overrun by everyday problems of homelessness, poverty, failing education system and crumbling infrastructure.

George Rebane

Russ 850pm - Do you have link to the VDH article?

’’’M’’’

,,,Trumpski is doing his usual glowing praise for himself thing again with NAFTA part deux.
He got the US a raise from 62.5% of a car to 75% of a car to be made here.

And at least 40% of workers must be paid a at least $32,000/year ($20,000 after taxes???) ,,,Poverty level if you ask me. The other 60% can work for peanuts.

The Guy is a Financial Genius!!!

George Rebane

M 507pm - Another kudo for President Trump? In what country do the subject someone who earns $32K to an effective 37.5% tax rate? Is that what you learn from your usual news sources?

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from M - "Poverty level if you ask me. The other 60% can work for peanuts."
They can work anywhere they want.
If they don't like the pay, take their considerable skills elsewhere.
Right, M?

Don Bessee

That ignorant troll @ 507 does not understand that those wages are for the Mexican workers not American, that's a lot of frijoles refiritos. What a maroon! ;-)

;-)

fish

Posted by: ’’’M’’’ | 28 August 2018 at 05:07 P

They can’t all be highly compensated junior college instructors like yourself dugsKKKI?

Russ

SAfrica Rules 300,000 Gun-Owners Turn Over Weapons...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-28/land-confiscations-loom-south-africa-rules-300000-gun-owners-turn-over-their

Gun registration has consequences.

Russ

George, Requested VDH comment link.

https://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2013/03/12/cnn-spokesman-what-can-government-ban-today/

Bill Tozer

@ 6:56 pm

“Firearms in the hands of law-abiding citizens rarely result in tragedies, but confiscating firearms from law-abiding citizens frequently results in genocides.” —Mark Alexander

Bill Tozer

George Rebane penned:
“I wonder where are our leftwingers here to continue downplaying the SA atrocities that the blacks are committing against white farmers. Some even accused those who pointed out the ongoing atrocities (these didn't start yesterday), covered up by SA's ANC, as being racists, thereby further diluting any meaning which that appellation may yet retain”
Posted by: George Rebane | 27 August 2018 at 04:49 PM

Wonder no more.

“While the anti-Trump media and governing elite parrot the narrative that Trump’s a racist, the same have been pretty silent on this developing issue. Their silence is likely a subtle response to the fact that President Trump recently spoke against this overreach. Put simply, whatever Donald Trump’s against, they’re for, and vice versa.”

https://patriotpost.us/articles/57883-south-africa-when-social-justice-becomes-theft


Russ

New Report Exposes Global Warming ‘Law Enforcement for Rent’

Report details how wealthy donors are paying for lawyers to pursue environmental cases by state AGs

By Brendan Kirby

Deep-pocketed global warming activists have been pouring big bucks into attorneys general’s offices to pay for lawyers to advance their agenda and use the powers of the law to take actions they never could achieve alone, according to a new report.

Released Wednesday by the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI), the 56-page document dubbed “Law Enforcement for Rent” paints a damning view of the cozy relationship between environmental activists and Democratic attorneys general in several states that have pulled off an end run around the democratic process — grabbing resources they have not been able to get from lawmakers.

“This is political. We have a policymaking process. They tried it and failed,” said Christopher Horner, a fellow at the think tank who wrote the report. “So their stance is, ‘It’s not working, so we’re going to use law enforcement.’”

Horner said the tactic has given environmental activists a new avenue to increase restrictions on carbon emissions after Congress rebuffed them, the Supreme Court blocked a regulatory plan then-President Barack Obama offered, and other supportive politicians lost races at the state and national levels.

Full Report HERE: https://www.lifezette.com/2018/08/new-report-exposes-global-warming-law-enforcement-for-rent/

Gregory

The idiotic defacement of the stop sign could easily have been from some confused green libertarian flying a false flag to scare up some enthusiasm among the regressive Progressives in town.

Gregory

Either...

1) there were some right wing ideologues who thought they'd scare the visiting Frisco Mime Troupe with a silly sign.

2) it was a sign placed in the vicinity of the Mime Troupe to set the mood, by the Mime Troupe

3) it was placed by a Miners Foundry person to set the mood

I think the last two are more plausible than the first.

Paul, your reaction to it isn't convincing. You could have been the one to put it there for all I know.

’’’M’’’

Local Scientist Hails Trump Trade Deal with Mexico!!!
(((Actually there is no deal,,,just more talk)))

‘’’After a year of tussling with Canada and Mexico over trade issues, President Donald Trump has announced a tentative deal with Mexico to replace the much-maligned North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). Many important details are unknown, in part because they remain to be negotiated. But the centerpiece of the agreement—a set of new and complex rules constraining trade in the automobile industry—could be problematic for the US auto sector, and for Mexico and Canada as well. At the least, the new rules will raise the price of autos for US consumers.’’’

https://piie.com/blogs/trade-investment-policy-watch/sweating-auto-details-trumps-trade-deal-mexico

 Bill Tozer

The sign:
My first reaction is “Who uses stencils anymore?” Stencils? No overspray on the edges of the letters either, so the letters were taped down properly and with relative proper spacing between the words. The only ones I know who used stencils, have stencils, and the words pretty much arranged correctly on poster board signs are folks in theatrical art departments.

Yep, had to be someone with a art department background. The blue used has a tincture of effervesce, not to mention the double faced taped used to mount the sign. Very clean. A deplorable would have used duct tape or ugly masking tape on cardboard, not nice clean poster board. No, the mischief maker was someone who had experience in art departments for theatrical productions, one has readily available access to such tools of the trade. A deplorable would have used ugly black makers as well, not to mention spelling Berkely incorrectly.

So, after all these decades, a sign magically appears right in front of the Miners Foundry on a night a theathrical production comes to Nivarna City to dis bitter clinger Righties using the word ‘patriot’. Interesting. And it took over ten days for our Popinjay to vent his outrage. And it was about 10 days ago that FB removed The Last American Patriot page and all links to the site from the internet. Coincidence?

Well, I would have called the Governor after having the Nevada City PD view any surveillance video in vicinity and dusting for fingerprints. Such violence cannot be tolerated in a civil society. Then I definitely would have forwarded this hate crime to the Southern Poverty Law Centet so they could have entered the Miners Foundry and Nevada City in their database as a hotbed or hatred and violent crimes. The SPLA does indeed provide the FBI with information when such dispicable dastardly assaults on our civil liberties occurs. But, that’s just me.
Me thinks thou doth protest too much. Waited 10-11 days? Interesting. More proof that the frontal lobe does not develop decades into adulthood by certain folks from certain specific regions.

fish

Posted by: Gregory | 30 August 2018 at 12:37 AM


Wasn't Punch......"your" was used in the possessive instead of "you're". Punchy hasn't been able to make the distinction. "Berkeley" was spelled correctly so that leaves out Todd and Walt. I think your (I see what I did there) hypothesis has some merit!

fish

Hat tip for "Stink Asses" though!

scenes

re: Gregory@12:37

4) It's BS.

I probably wasn't clear enough, but some local woman posted a story, yesterday or the day before, making the exact same claim. Same misspellings, on a traffic sign, somewhere else in the county, actual event happening several months ago (assuming that the story is true).

Story:
https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/love-and-kierkegaard-in-the-age-of-trump/#!

That very day, Paul pops up and claims that he had heard of this happening. An hour or so later the story morphed into actually seeing the dreaded sign. Of course, at this point the sign was spotted by KVMR about 10 days ago or so, but wasn't mentioned until yesterday.

I only play a lawyer on TV, but I doubt this would hold up in court.

George Rebane

Re the stenciled sign. Stencils imply that more than one of these signs were made at their manufacture. I asked PaulE last week if any more of these signs of rightwing violence were to be found in the county. At the time he was not aware of any more of these. So the question is, where are the rest, and where did they come from and when, since its a little strange that someone in Nevada County would make a stencil for just one sign.

fish

Posted by: ’’’M’’’ | 30 August 2018 at 06:39 AM

(((Actually there is no deal,,,just more talk)))


There can't be a "deal" until after at least a 90 day comment period "'M'"oron!

scenes

re: GeorgeR@7:59AM

I'm simply not buying any of it. Tiny chance of actual miscreant. Huge chance of Green Libertarian performance art.

scenes

GeorgeR: "I wonder where are our leftwingers here to continue downplaying the SA atrocities that the blacks are committing against white farmers."

There's usually a funny kind of whack-a-mole at work there.

Typically, it'll alternate between:

. It never happened.
. If it happened, they deserve it.

So, your bases are pretty much covered.

 Bill Tozer

Life Inmitates art. The mounting of the ghastly sign has me playing Columbo. Or Kojak. Whether the sign was mounted with double face tape or spray adhesive, I cannot say. But. I can imagine a scenario where the traveling troupe of artisans pull out the sign from the truck of the car, slap it on something near the venue they will be performing that night, grab the sign after the show is over, toss it back in the trunk (or van/mini van) and use it again for the next place the mimes are scheduledto delight audiences.

Imagine the perpetrator of the evil crime putting the props back into the getaway car after the performance, then going outside to retrieve the sign. “Hey, somebody ripped off the sign!” Bummer. Probably hanging right now on some Gen Y’s bedroom wall down in Mom’s basement.

Bottom Line: My inner Inspector Clouseau leads me to go with Gregory’s #2. Gregory's #2....no stink ass pun intended.

scenes

For shits 'n grins, I say that the cops, city council, and newspaper really get involved. Paul, as the public face of RR, could go down and make the case that he is fearing for his life.

The NCPD could break away from whatever duties they have and collect evidence. Interview Paul, check for cameras in the area, ponder why a newspaper dance writer from San Francisco would have had exactly the same sign right by her house as a San Francisco dance troupe several months later.

The main thing that irritates me is the assumption that evil pubber Trump people are illiterates. Fake signs always get the grammar wrong, it's like the ever-present backwards letters in an old Our Gang serial.

scenes

edit: "San Francisco dance troupe" ->"San Francisco performance troupe"

 Bill Tozer

. Have LE or CA Justice Department in Sac check the data bases to see if there are other localities that have reported such hate crimes....then cross references for the key words (stink-asses is a great starting point) and then check the violent sign crime with the schedule and places the Traveling Salvation Show has appeared inthe last 14 or so months. That’s what I would do if I were on the hunt.

You can rail against hate, violence, and hateful violence without belief in a god, but never without belief in a devil.

Look, it's Sabo, the conservative guerrilla artist of Los Angeles.

scenes

In other news:

"Campus bans Sept. 11 memorial for 'bias' against Muslims"
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/red-alert-politics/campus-bans-sept-11-memorial-for-bias-against-muslims

"You can rail against hate, violence, and hateful violence without belief in a god, but never without belief in a devil."

I like that. Maybe "Crusades don't require gods, but they do require devils"

scenes

"(stink-asses is a great starting point)"

Isn't it always.

Aside from being something Peter Sellers might have said in 'Being There, it's practically always an urban black term.

You'll find yourself in a quagmire of World Star Hip Hop quotes and rap tunes.

 Bill Tozer

9:33 am
Ah yes. Theses are universal human traits of the human condition, irrespective of race, creed, sexual orientation, or policial view. It’s who we are. Ain’t easy being a spiritual being having a human experience. Sort of like Brain on Family Guy. No matter how great a suave and debonair persona he exudes to others, he just can’t keep himself from pissing on a fire hydrant or dry humping someone’s leg. It’s kind of fun to call the devils ‘unhinged’.

Moving on.....

Gregory

The novel "Love and Kierkegaard in the Age of Trump" by Rachael Hunter, who lives in Nevada City, has the same wording of Paul's sign but describes it having happened several months earlier, and this in a book review that had several months lag time, from a book that had probably been finished many moons before that.

In the novel, it was described as being in red, and defacing a speed limit sign near her home. Which is in Nevada City according to her website, rachelhunter.com

I doubt many (make that ANY) right-wing folk had seen any part of her new novel (to be published by a real publisher in April '19) a year ago or so. Was the earlier sign a real thing, or a figment of an active literary imagination?

Curious. Paul Emery, do you know Rachel Hunter?

Don Bessee

Oh really!

https://freebeacon.com/issues/calif-road-workers-accused-of-stopping-traffic-to-pass-out-anti-gas-tax-repeal-flyers/

;-)

Paul Emery

George

Another sign has emerged. I'll send you a copy. It was from May 9 last year and also was blocking a crucial road sign which illustrates a total disregard for public safety.

Don Bessee

You so FUNNY! @ 1055 'disregard for public safety' LOL!! ;-)

Gregory

Paul, a dangling question, yes or no... do you know Rachel Hunter?

 Bill Tozer

Make that check the data base from the last 2 years, not 14 months or so. Ah, make it going bac to the first week in November, 2016. They are still seeing Red.

What we have here is some goofball in a shack in the woods. A recluse. Our own Unabomber. Bet when they catch the menance to society, he is a white dude that knows urban lingo...and his name is Ted. Moved here from Berkeley. Fits the profile.

Gregory

May 9, 2017? That would fit the "Age of Trump" mention. Was it in red, on a Nevada City speed limit sign?

Paul Emery

Not that I recall Gregory. Tell me something about her that might refresh my memory.

Paul Emery

Idon't recall meeting her Gregory. I've heard the name because of the book.

Gregory

"She lives in Nevada City, CA, where she founded Yuba Writers’ Workshops, and a reading series, Yuba Lit, now a fiscally sponsored project of the Nevada County Arts Council."

rachelhunter.com/about

Paul Emery

Are you saying she might have planted the signs Gregory?

Paul Emery

Gregory

I followed the link for Rachel and it got an New Zealand super model. Check it out

http://www.rachelhunter.com/about

Gregory

punchy 1120am

Bizarre, Paul. You're just f'ing bizarre.

What words did I write that are twistable to that?

Gregory

http://rachelhoward.com/about/

Howard, not Hunter

Paul Emery

Just wondering what you're motivation was to mention her name and questioning me if I knew her, Why was that important Gregory?

 Bill Tozer

The more I think about it, the vandal could be a woman with experience in such matters. The color choice, the reference in the author’s words, the woman’s touch on the fisinished product, the slightly altered wording to keep up with the times. Only a greenhorn would not know using double face tabs works best (far superior) only on flat non porous surfaces. Wooden posts are not an option. Metal polls are to be avoided also because an opposite wind direction would knock the abominable thing clear off. Kinda defeats the purpose.

Oh, she is good I tell you. And evolving. Berkeley Traitors Go Home. Well, that could be a few thousand people around these parts and it is a common widespread sentiment found outside the Bubble Burg off Broadstreet. Friggin flatlanders!
This may take awhile to whittle the list of sociopaths in Nevada County down to nab her. There is a lot of persons of interest to surveil. Men are from Mars, women from some other place..

Or maybe, just maybe, a certain Popinjay is concerned that these kind of terrorist capers could affect the monetary bottom line. Attendee intimation. Ah, a true capitalist motivated by self interest.

Gregory

So, Punch, to recap with the name correct... do you know Rachel Howard, author of the book excerpted in the LA Review of Books, and someone who described the sign's words from a sighting that was possibly more than a year ago?

Please note... I made no claim that she had anything to do with it. I think it very possible someone known to you and to her DID have something to do with it.

While it isn't impossible that some deranged whitey-righty made the sign and plastered it onto a couple of traffic signs in Nirvana Silly, it's a dubious proposition.

Rachel Howard

I am Rachel Howard. The essay in the Los Angeles Review of Books is not an excerpt from my novel. It's an essay I wrote (entirely separate from my novel) and LARB published. That sign was posted near my house last year. I have no idea who created the sign and no conspiracy theories about it. It did rattle me. As the essay says, I called the police and they took that sign down. I'm sorry I haven't had enough time to read your thread here today as I am under many deadlines, so I am just jumping in to clarify who I am and what I wrote. Peace to all.

Paul Emery

Gregory

I sent George a copy of an identical sign sighting from May 2017 on or near Sacramento Street.

So you think it's a "dubious proposition" that some deranged "whitey-righty" made and plastered the signs. Somebody did it Gregory, what is your best guess as to who?

There are other signs that the police have been made aware of by the way. They were different from these signs but were similar in style and typesetting and were very pro shrill; right . First of all that's ok. they were on private property but meant to be publically noted since they were down by the road. they were just down the road from the foundry and were taken down. I'll give an update as to what their content was.

Gregory

You bet, Rachael. Thanks for chiming in, sorry for getting the LARB issue skewed.

Paul, I'd bet real money that wasn't made or posted by anyone on the right side of the aisle. A caricature of a right wing threat by someone on the left. The hard left.

Paul Emery

Here is some of the wordings on signs posted for public view on private property just down the road from the sign posted the day of the Mime Troupe performance. they have been taken down.

INFO WARS
WELL USE
SMOKE SIGNALS
IF WE HAVE TO

exact spelling and capitalization

GOOGLE
DON'T BE EVIL
THATS OUR JOB

(uses various logos including nazi, white power and communist symbols)

the police were notified about these and they have been taken down.

Paul Emery

they were very similar in style and typesetting to the other signs. A little more elaborate though using above mentioned symbols.

Paul Emery

So Gregory in your view you are willing to bet that the signage was created and posted by someone on the hard left. What would their motivation be? this has been going on for a year and a half so it's not spontaneous that's for sure.

George Rebane

Re this signage teapot tempest - someone who remembers the underlying point of this thread should again remind all of us. Otherwise the ongoing forensics on spelling, composition, and stencilology is going to get more than a bit silly.

Paul Emery

I disagree George. Details are everything in the search for truth.

Gregory

Paulo, the signs I've seen to date are what I'd be willing to bet on.

The new claims by you are not. Strange you didn't mention them until now.

Please, any pictures, send to George.

scenes

"Are you saying she might have planted the signs Gregory?"

I don't think that anyone is suggesting anything, just that the whole deal is a bit sketchy. NC KKK? Maybe. All one or two of them. Pubbers? Probably not. Skate kids with some time? Maybe. False flag? Just as likely. Paul running around with stencils? Unlikely unless he bought a pretty tall ladder.

A proper Reich-Wing sign would be something like: "Illegal is a crime, not a race. Trump 2020". It's catchier and actually sounds authentic. No stencils though. Rednecks use sharpies and cardboard.

GeorgeR: "someone who remembers the underlying point of this thread should again remind all of us. "

It's probably a combination of things, which you can see nationally. Paul is clutching his pearls. Mostly there's a high tendency to see faces in clouds. Nationally, practically any heinous act by evil white supremacist Republican teabagger bastards has been shown to be a fraud (I'm happy to supply links), so the tendency on the Right wing of the aisle is to laugh off all the fake rude behavior. The folks on the Left have fielded an army on the streets with plenty of signs, but are convinced there's some sort of right wing conspiracy to shoot POC and anyone who votes in favor of public healthcare.

It's a grand folly of stupidity, largely fueled by the internet.

Rachel Howard: "I am Rachel Howard. "

Welcome. Stick around. Defending your ideas is a good hone for your intellect.

 Bill Tozer

“(uses various logos including nazi, white power and communist symbols)
the police were notified about these and they have been taken down”....and the FUE has Sheriff Royal’s number on his speed dial.

Nazis, Communist, and white power. Well, the first two describe the Far Left to a tee under the umbrella of Leftininstas of All Stripes.


As a side note, the real Nazi’s went out into the streets and found homeless criminally insane males or those with a propensity for violence to use as the executioners in the concentration camps. They previously worked out quite well as the thugs the Brownshirts used to get in the face of political opposition. Very reminiscent of the tactics the Democrat Party used to disrupt Trump Rallies in 2016, as captured on the Project Veritas tapes. 2 of of 3 fit the profile.

Now, what about white power component? Is it possible that one of the remaining 2,000 White Supremists in our nation of 300 plus million is living among us? Who is he? Who I ask. Is it the guy next door, the gal at the bank, the person who sells local eggs to restaurants? Someone who once worked for the Post Office and is disgruntled?

In a weird way, the asthetics of the sign with it’s crisp clean background with no dog eared corners tells me that someone took pride in craftsmanship, making the sign with love in every legible letter. Easily to read. Simple is best. The esthetics and presentation is as important as the meaning of the letters. That’s why I believe the perp is female, or at a minimum, a queer eye for a straight guy is involved.
Now, if you take the first letter from each word and the 2nd and 3rd vowel from every other line, there is a message in there. A clue, if you prefer. A calling card literally left on the scene of the crime.

Boy, the cops have been informed and quietly been putting the pieces together behind the scenes for over a year now. I sure hope Punchy did not torpedo their investigation by opening his big trap and spilling the beans. Hate to alert the target that they are on to him. A person of very special interest.

Whoever you are out there, stop it. Stop it and all will be forgiven. Problem solved.

Paul Emery

Scenes writes:

Nationally, practically any heinous act by evil white supremacist Republican teabagger bastards has been shown to be a fraud (I'm happy to supply links)

Please do that

Biker Bill writes:

Is it possible that one of the remaining 2,000 White Supremists in our nation of 300 plus million is living among us?

Can you document that number Bill?

scenes

Paul Emery: "Please do that".

How about one per day, just to keep things rolling.

The Daily False Flag.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2017/05/03/why-heil-trump-spray-painted-church/101240824/

George Rebane

I don't think Mr Tozer can document the 2,000 white supremacists number, because most likely there aren't that many of them out there. Now I'm talking about those who so declare themselves, not the number that are ascribed by the Left - for them there are at least 200,000 of them out there, maybe more. By the comments and commentaries of our local Left, I am one of those so identified (even by our middle roader in residence) white supremacists. Perhaps some other RR readers are also thrown into that tumbril-in-waiting.

Paul Emery

Why is it so hard to document you're statement Scenes? You agreed to supply links to back up you're somewhat bombastic statement.

scenes

"Now, if you take the first letter from each word and the 2nd and 3rd vowel from every other line, there is a message in there. "

Now you've got my OCD working.

An anagram for 'Berkeley Traitors ' is 'A berserk toiletry', which I rather like.

George Rebane

FYI to the grammarians in our crowd -
you're - contraction for 'you are';
your - second person possessive

Does anyone still care about our contracting and contorting language?

Paul Emery

Here's a casual list of shite supremist groups Scenes for you to start on

11th Hour Remnant Messenger was a group founded by two wealthy retired entrepreneurs who believed that whites were the true biblical Israelites.
American Renaissance, is a "race realist and white advocacy website", formerly a monthly magazine, published by the New Century Foundation.
American Freedom Party, formerly known as the American Third Position Party, is an American political party which promotes white supremacy.[48][49][50][51] It was founded in 2010, and it defines its principal mission as representing the political interests of white Americans.
American Nazi Party, is an antisemitic, neo-Nazi organization based largely upon the ideals and policies of Adolf Hitler's NSDAP in Germany during the era of the Third Reich.It also supports Holocaust denial.
Aryan Brotherhood of Texas is, according to the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center, one of the largest and most violent white supremacist prison gangs in the United States, responsible for murders and other violent crimes.
Aryan Nations, is a white supremacist neo-Nazi organization founded in the 1970s by Richard Girnt Butler as an arm of the Christian Identity group known as the Church of Jesus Christ-Christian. The Federal Bureau of Investigation has called Aryan Nations a "terrorist threat",[55] and the RAND Corporation has called it the "first truly nationwide terrorist network" in the US.
Asatru Folk Assembly, part of the racist ("folkish") branch of the Heathenry movement.
Council of Conservative Citizens, is an American political organization that supports a large variety of conservative and paleoconservative causes in addition to white separatism.
Creativity Alliance, (formerly known as the World Church of the Creator) is a white supremacist political organization that advocates the racialist religion, Creativity. Mainly religious rather than political, the radical Creativity Alliance or Church of Creativity, founded by Ben Klassen in 1973, worships the white race itself rather than any deity, and advocates a radical form of white supremacism known as RAHOWA.
EURO, is a white separatist organization in the United States. Led by former Louisiana state representative and presidential primary candidate David Duke, it was founded in 2000.[59][60]
Hammerskins, also known as Hammerskin Nation, are a white supremacist group formed in 1988 in Dallas, Texas. Their primary focus is the production and promotion of white power rock music, and many white power bands have been affiliated with the group.
Ku Klux Klan, often abbreviated KKK and informally known as The Klan, is the name of three distinct past and present right-wing[61] organizations in the United States, which have advocated extremist reactionary currents such as white supremacy and nationalism. The Klan is classified as a hate group by the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center.[62] It is estimated to have between 5,000 and 8,000 members, split among dozens of different organizations that use the Klan name as of 2012.
National Alliance, is a white supremacist political organization. It was founded by William Luther Pierce, and is based in the Pierce family's compound in Hillsboro, West Virginia.
National Association for the Advancement of White People, is a white supremacist organization in the United States incorporated on December 14, 1953 in Delaware by Bryant Bowles which presents itself as a civil rights organization such as the NAACP.
National Policy Institute, is a think tank based in Augusta, Georgia in the United States. It describes itself as the right's answer to the Southern Poverty Law Center.
National Socialist Movement (United States), a party founded in 1974. Since 2005 the party has become very active, staging many marches and demonstrations.
National Vanguard, was an American National Socialist organization based in Charlottesville, Virginia, founded by Kevin Alfred Strom and former members of the National Alliance.
Nationalist Movement, is a Mississippi-based, white supremacist organization that advocates what it calls a "pro-majority" position. It has been called white supremacist by the Associated Press and Anti-Defamation League, among others.[64][65]
Occidental Quarterly, is a printed far-right quarterly journal with a web segment, TOQ Online, including interviews, essays and reviews on the website.
The Order, or Brüder Schweigen ("Silent Brotherhood") was a white supremacist Revolutionary organization founded by Robert Jay Mathews, active 1983-1984, probably best known for the 1984 murder of talk show host Alan Berg. Berg's killing was to be the first in a planned series of assassinations, followed by attacks on the United States government, all meant to bring about a race war which would result in fulfillment of White Separatist ideals (see Northwest Territorial Imperative).
Pacifica Forum, is a controversial discussion group in Eugene, Oregon, United States. It has been listed as a white nationalist] hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).
Phineas Priesthood, is a Christian Identity movement that opposes interracial intercourse, the mixing of races, homosexuality, and abortion. It is also marked by its anti-Semitism, anti-multiculturalism, and opposition to taxation.
Volksfront, describes itself as an international fraternal organization for persons of European descent.[68] It has been called "neo-Nazi" and a "racist-skinhead group" in press reports.[69][70][71] The Anti-Defamation League has called the group "one of the most active skinhead groups in the United States."[72] The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has added Volksfront to its list of hate groups.[73]
White America, Inc., a group founded in Arkansas to prevent racial desegregation of the state's schools.[74]
White Aryan Resistance, is a neo-Nazi white supremacist organization founded and led by former Ku Klux Klan leader Tom Metzger.

Paul Emery

Shite is Irish for shit. Meant to be white but it works.

scenes

"Why is it so hard to document you're(sic) statement Scenes? "

What? You don't like the idea of the Daily False Flag? It's more interesting than a wikipedia cut 'n paste. Dunno if I'd lump in the Occidental Quarterly with prison gangs, that's kind of an $PLC sort of thing.

George Rebane

Are organizations that promote the interests of any specific ethnic or racial group - say, blacks, whites, Latinos, Asians, ... - necessarily also advocating their group's "supremacy". By our leftist compiler (215pm) the answer to that question is a resounding YES! if your group consists of whites or Europeans. This is the kind of reasoning celebrated at our neighboring blog hosted by RL Crabb, and which I expand on in 'Quo Vadis Democrats?'

Gregory

Let's give the highest estimate for the KKK off that list of yours, Paul. 8000.

That means there's roughly one KKK member per 8000/300,000,000 people, or, assuming 50,000 people in Nirvana County, California.... there's one KKK member in Nevada County.

Your mission, should you decide to accept it, is to figure out who it is.


Paul Emery

This is typical of racism coming from Republican officials none the less:

The secretary of the Republican Committee of Beaver County, Pennsylvania called NFL players baboons for protesting against racism during the national anthem and suggested they go back to Africa. She also whined about reverse racism, reports The Times, and predicted an impending civil war.

“Tired of these over paid ignorant blacks telling me what I should believe in. I will tell you what I believe in and that is our Flag the National Anthem and America period end of story,” she wrote. “You don’t like it here go to Africa see how you like it there. We are all Americans not African American not Hispanic American. WE ARE ALL AMERICAN.”

“Steelers are now just as bad as the rest of the over paid baboons. You respect your flag, country and our national anthem. How many men and women have lost limbs or died to protect this country and you baboons want respect,” she added wrote. “If you want respect you need to earn it and so far you haven’t. Stop watching, or going to a game and paying for over priced food, water and tickets. Let’s see how the baboons get paid when white people stop paying their salaries.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/trump-loving-gop-official-pennsylvania-raged-black-nfl-baboons-told-go-back-africa/

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