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02 December 2018

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Paul Emery

Verification? I was there. Duffy's Success-Crazy Horse saloon. Great fun. What a laugh.

Walt

You ALMOST go me Scenes,, I said "harm the nation".
What your list shows is what Lefty dreams Trump had a golden shower party on.

scenes

"What your list shows is what Lefty dreams Trump had a golden shower party on."

I think that it mostly shows that the Blue Mob has lost it's mind. There's no there there.

You'd have to ask them how their personal lives have changed in any way in the last two years, aside from stock holdings of course.

It's tempting to blame all this on some sort of MSM-manufactured outrage, but my gut says there is something deeper going on. Team Blue has lost faith in Western Civilization and is thrashing around trying to create something new. The Deplorables stand in their way and Trump is just a symptom of the immune system of traditional US culture kicking in.

If you believe in civilizational cycles it was about time for a revolutionary movement anyway. You can see it in charts showing civil unrest over time.

Walt

Scenes. The Left has stated that "we need to be more European".
SCREW THAT! We had a revolutionary war to get the hell away from that. Hence, the greatest nation on this third rock from the Sun was born.

Walt

When losers still think they can win.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/04/stacey-abrams-considering-run-for-governor-senate-hasnt-ruled-out-white-house/

Paul Emery

Trump should be easy pickens for the Dems in 2020. the Dems won huge in the House and Govs and Trump is starting to lose the twisted spell he put on the Pubbers and they have no backup plan. Biden would easily win. Trump has to weather the Dem house for two years and they will drive him crazier then he already is. Gonna be great fun.

fish

Posted by: Steven Frisch | 04 December 2018 at 08:24 AM

Oh, and the laziest fu@# amongst the crew is Todd; the most dangerous because he knows what he is doing is George; and the most annoying because he is simply a contrarian tool of a juvenile libertarianism is Greg.


Hmmm…..somebody else disappointed in us!

/shocked face!

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 04 December 2018 at 09:49 AM


Well Gosh and Golly Punch….were there any witnesses?

Gregory

" and the most annoying because he is simply a contrarian tool of a juvenile libertarianism is Greg."

I'm just an old Whig, Steve, A contrarian takes a contrary position because that's what they do... I take positions contrary to your closely held beliefs because I think you're full of crap.

I see you're still at 100% white staffing, Steve... shame on you! As a libertarian I agree you have a right to hire anyone you like with the money you control, but as an individual I have a right to point out your racist hypocrisy. If that annoys you...good.
http://sierrabusiness.org/who-we-are/people/staff

Paul Emery

Shucks and Yucks fish:

Witnesses to what? Be specific Did you get any sleep last night?

Paul Emery

Wow

Breaking news. These emails will be fair game for the Dems, the Pubbers having set the standard for using stolen emails in a Political campaigns.

"The House GOP campaign arm suffered a major hack during the 2018 election, exposing thousands of sensitive emails to an outside intruder, according to three senior party officials.

The email accounts of four senior aides at the National Republican Congressional Committee were surveilled for several months, the party officials said. The intrusion was detected in April by an NRCC vendor, who alerted the committee and its cybersecurity contractor. An internal investigation was initiated and the FBI was alerted to the attack, said the officials, who requested anonymity to discuss the incident.

However, senior House Republicans — including Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) and Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) — were not informed of the hack until POLITICO contacted the NRCC on Monday with questions about the episode. Rank-and-file House Republicans were not told, either.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/04/exclusive-emails-of-top-nrcc-officials-stolen-in-major-2018-hack-1043309

Most Annoying

Hee hee! PUNCH wants the Dem house to pummel Trump into the mud so Biden could walk into the White House in 2020.

That would be something.

George Rebane

re Steven Frisch 821am - A much appreciated comment indeed Mr Frisch. I welcome it as another of these periodic exemplars from the Left that confirms what some very sober political scientists, historians, sociologists, and behavioral economists have been observing for the last few decades - BTW, all of them vigorously disavowed by the Left to a degree that in recent years some have even been prevented from speaking on college campuses by hyper-progressive (aka snowflake) students and administrations.

What's most remarkable is how the Left adamantly ignores all of these recognized observers and students of the human condition. If an argument doesn't fit the Left's narrative (eg. viz Mr Frisch), it doesn't exist or have a legitimate voice in the debate.

Among the many ignored are the works of Allan Bloom (1987), Robert Bork (1996), Charles Murray (2012), and most recently Jonah Goldberg (2018). And the stark differences that today divide us are raisons d'etre of established organizations such as La Raza and MALDEF, with now much more virulent leftwing organizations coming out of the muck in response to organize the migrant invasion from the south.

In a more formal sense, publications such as 'The Libertarian Mind', 'The Conservatarian Manifesto', and 'The Progressive Manifesto' delineate and highlight our diametrically distant ideological desiderata. And just out, 'The Diversity Delusion' (2018) by Heather MacDonald details how the seams of our common culture are ripping at an ever greater rate. The shared values that Mr Frisch references come in two overwhelmingly distinct flavors, and are by no means shared nationwide. What little intersection that today remains in our values (and none in our worldview) has negligible adhesive power.

An endowed fellow of the Manhattan Institute, with degrees from Yale, Cambridge, and Stanford, Ms MacDonald predicts a high likelihood of armed conflict in America within five years. Other than that, everything is hunky-dory.

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 04 December 2018 at 10:06 AM

Witnesses to what?


To your presence in the saloon that you're using as justification for your status as town historian. If merely showing up at a bar is all that it takes then I'm the "Town Historian" for many locales!

You need to do better.

Paul Emery

If you lived here you'd know. Why do you care anyway being a flatlander with a phoney web name?

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 04 December 2018 at 10:38 AM


We had this discussion last week Punch! I can't keep rehashing everything for you.

Perhaps you should take notes?

Paul Emery

Question still stands. You don't even know Duffy Saloon existed. Why do you care?

Todd Juvinall

Steve Frisch once again proves he feels inadequate to come here and debye issues. But that is the left and they are all true hypocrites. All of his objections to those here are simply jealousy. He once bankrupted his restaurant, swiped $250,000 in his employee's taxes and was liened by every government entity. Even his furniture was confiscated. But he is still better than all here. You cannot make this stuff up as a liberal like Frisch will always supply us with a foil.

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 04 December 2018 at 11:00 AM


You were the one who brought it up.


"Verification? I was there. Duffy's Success-Crazy Horse saloon. Great fun. What a laugh

Todd Juvinall

Pul Emery was a well known attendee of the local saloons.

George Rebane

Please relate saloons and their attendance to the topics at hand, else cut the bullshit.

fish

Posted by: George Rebane | 04 December 2018 at 11:14 AM

Sorry George….out of the blue, and for no apparent reason, Punch felt compelled to inform the commentariat at large that Todd had returned to the discussion…….it just sort of snowballed from there.

fish

……and the Gaffe Factory continues to produce!


"Biden: I may be a "gaffe machine," but at least I can tell the truth"


Tells the truth like this…..


'They're going to put y'all back in chains'


Usual suspects to be along any minute to tell us why this was taken out of context. Or something…..



https://www.axios.com/joe-biden-2020-presidential-election-most-qualified-19088c60-11c1-4e76-8f3c-4ed94edfd022.html?utm_source=topstories

https://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/08/theyre-going-to-put-yall-back-in-chains-updated-132073

 Bill Tozer

Steve Frisch @ 8:21 am

Thanks for the reply. You always reply when asked, a good trait. Guess you have more belief in our better angels than I feel is warranted or justified....and you may have underestimated the power of our unique history and culture, IMHO. I will put you down in the ‘The Great Divide is a Myth’ column for the reasons you stated.
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Scenes @ 9:01 am. Yep, the driver of the bus may be the Industrial Leftist Media Complex as the face the public sees, but it not the puppeteers behind the curtain. Yes, there is something ‘deeper’ going on, something that elicits such unusual reaction to opposition. Volatile reaction. None of us like to have our ideas and grand plans to be opposed or face resistance, but this is more than mere ego stuff. It’s like the Deplorables standing in the way are clear and present danger (very dangerous) stuff that must be dealt with with much haste and excessive force. Too much excessives going.
They react the same in losing as they do in winning. Something deeper is going on. Something that makes merely facing opposiion to one’s ideas a matter of life and death to them. Whatever it is, it’s running amok. You said it well.

“It's tempting to blame all this on some sort of MSM-manufactured outrage, but my gut says there is something deeper going on. Team Blue has lost faith in Western Civilization and is thrashing around trying to create something new. The Deplorables stand in their way and Trump is just a symptom of the immune system of traditional US culture kicking in.

“If you believe in civilizational cycles it was about time for a revolutionary movement anyway. You can see it in charts showing civil unrest over time.”—-Scenes

I will put you down in the ‘Great Divide is Not a Myth’ column.

Todd Juvinall

I watched as Bob Dole came to the Rotunda to pay his respects for GHWB today. He is in a wheelchair but had help to rise to his feet in respect for the 41st. It was very touching and made me proud of people like him.

Todd Juvinall

This is for that race-baiting Frisch and his ilk. I bet we never see the pictures of these carjackers or their victim in the lamestream media. Except for FOX.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/3-teens-arrested-in-murder-of-louisiana-pastors-wife

Bill Tozer

Dr. Rebane @ 10:15 am

Wow. The first item on my news feed is about Heather MAC Donald. Must be a Universe or spiritual God thing. They say a coincidence is when God does something and he chooses to remain anonymous.

“From the moment a student steps on a college campus today as a freshman or a fresh person, I should probably say, the bureaucracy is determined to drum in to that student’s head, identity politics, which says, he is either a victim or an oppressor. Oppressors are obviously most famously white males, heterosexual white males. The only way they can get out to of their oppressor category is to become an ally – an ally of the oppressed.

The most preposterous delusion of all of this is student actually believe that they are at risk of their lives from circumambient racism and sexism on a college campus. This is an environment that in traditional liberal terms is the most tolerant environment in human history for society’s traditionally marginalized groups.

She goes so far as to say that this campus culture is breeding hate and could ultimately lead to civil war as generations of young people are being taught to hate each other, their country, and western civilization.

https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/12/were-all-in-gender-studies-101-now/?fbclid=IwAR3rhw3WkPJ08tVKUGNdqG6taMrprvePbSwh_vydndPWy-X-Vz1NZxr64t8

Guess I will put Heather in the Great Divide is Not a Myth Column.
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Unbelievable. Guess I am plugged in. Yesterday after circling the barn on abortion and leaving RR, the first, the very first, item on my FB page (and out of the blue) was this meme. I couldn’t believe it. It was about abortion. Coincidence? Or walking in the light?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2211216608896952&set=gm.524079251440912&type=3&theater

Russ

Bill@12: 47 PM I wrote this on the 2nd of Dec in this thread.

Saw Heather Mac Donald on Life Liberty and Levin this evening on Fox News and she recommends that alums just stop funding our universities as they no longer teach knowledge but focusing on race and gender equity, while China and Russia are only interested in the best and brightest regardless of gender. They are not spending millions to ensure 50-50 equity in math and physic classes.

Heather was awesome. Watch for her articles.

Bill Tozer

A common story, heard it a hundred times lately. A younger single mother of 4 arrives at the border with 3 of her kids, one she kid she left behind in Honduras or El Salvador or Guatemala. She can neither read or write in any language. She says she wants to provide a better future for her children.
I get it. We all get it. Everybody gets the desire to provide a better life and future for their kids.

A common interview on MSM. A 50 year old woman arrives at the border. She makes tortillas in her home country, but not enough buyers of her tortillas to make ends met. She has children. She too can neither read or right in any language. She wants to provide a better future for her kids and wants to find better economic oppunities for herself and selling her torillias. I get it. We all get it. But, she does not have many working years left and she is starting from scratch in a country she knows nothing about it’s history, norms, tradition, language, or culture. What happens when she turns 65?

An illegal alien woman has been here 11, 13, or 17 years. Calls the police about her missing husband or is interviewed by the press if her husband was picked up by ICE. She, after 17 years of living here, needs an interpreter. Why? Why, after 17 years, does she need an interpreter for conversational English? What are her chances of assimilating or becoming a success story here?

Now, what are the chances of the three common interviewees of being successful in the United States without being a quasi-ward of the State?

“The Trump administration has proposed new ‘public charge’ rules making it harder for prospective immigrants to qualify for lawful permanent residence -- green cards -- if they use or are likely to use U.S. welfare programs,” said CIS.

“Concern over immigrant welfare use is justified, as households headed by non-citizens use means-tested welfare at high rates. Non-citizens in the data include illegal immigrants, long-term temporary visitors like guest workers, and permanent residents who have not naturalized. While barriers to welfare use exist for these groups, it has not prevented them from making extensive use of the welfare system, often receiving benefits on behalf of U.S.-born children,” added the Washington-based immigration think tank.

The numbers are huge. The report said that there are 4,684,784 million non-citizen households receiving welfare.

And nearly all, 4,370,385, have at least one worker in the house..

https://drudgenow.com/article/?n=0&s=2&c=1&pn=Anonymous&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonexaminer.com%2Fwashington-secrets%2Fcensus-confirms-63-of-non-citizens-on-welfare-4-6-million-households&fbclid=IwAR1ScYY49fSsEEiuQGxuJbqVbWUF_-YuPNdhFlv5jjsjkrz8hoORdEKd-1Q

“And nearly all have one worker in the house”. That is what I suspected. Hard working Jose or Manny may be a fine worker and a good honest man, but he has a wife and kids at home needing food stamps to feed the family. What are his chances of success? Or being a net provider to our country?

George Rebane

Administrivia - This commentary has a 4dec18 update. (Posted as a public service for those who seldom check the original commentary.)

Todd Juvinall

Unfortunately Frisch and those that have their blinders on cannot and will not ever accept their part in this issue. I have attended hundreds of gatherings of Republicans and conservatives in my political life. I have never heard ONE person say a disparaging thing about a minority or any ethnic group. But we hear from the left on a daily basis their desire to rid the world of "white people" and scream "white privilege" and any other crap they can think of. My experience with our side is PLEASE, leave us alone. Yet they can't help themselves and they create boogeymen to scare their side into a hate for "white people". It seems to be a money maker for them and therefore it will continue. But the Frisch's of the country are simply hypocrites who want to get into our stuff and take it. Though he was a failure at private enterprise, he is a success at getting that taxpayer funding and I guess he thinks that makes him better than us. Paris is showing what happens when the Frisch philosophy tries to govern.

Paul Emery

Todd

Several times you have said that Scots and Greeks have sex with sheep. Wouldn't that qualify as a " disparaging thing about a minority or any ethnic group."

George Rebane

PaulE 307pm - Oh come on Paul! We've had a welcome respite from screwing sheep. For God's sake let it lie; it's beneath you. Todd's remark addressed the broad response of the Right at their gatherings and conclaves re the things they are accused of by the Left. His anecdotal tet a tets with you on RR have nothing to do with his 243pm and are not representative of any rightwing sentiments. But if you can't answer his larger observation, then perhaps diving back into the sheep thing is your only alternative.

scenes

"For God's sake let it lie; it's beneath you. "

You are pretending like Paul is ever a serious poster, although it brings up the question of just *what* is beneath him. Waste of typing.

In matters that are real, it's fun to watch the companies choose up sides in Civil War 2.0

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/419541-tim-cook-hateful-views-have-no-place-on-tech-platforms

Of course, you know darned well what 'hateful' means. Next thing you know, MacOS won't allow 'hateful' documents or images to be stored locally.

Thankfully, the first response by someone hit the nail on the head. By 'Rubber Biscuit' (no doubt of the Boston Biscuits) we have:

"These social media platforms need to be forced to make a decision. They are either tech platforms with no liability for what is on their sites, or they are publishers with full legal responsibility. Once they start picking and choosing, they are publishers, period."

Bill Tozer

Moral imagination: put American Workers last.? Alliance to corporate elites comes first.

“Jayapal’s demand for more government-controlled foreign labor spotlights the growing corporatist alliance between elite progressives, establishment Democrats, CEOs, and Wall Street investors — and it helps to explain why ordinary Americans favored pro-American Donald Trump for the White House.

The Washington State representative’s plan to grow the economy with government-supplied labor mimics the elite-controlled 3,500-year-old caste system in her Indian homeland. Instead of recreating India’s caste system, however, the D.C. elite would provide lower-status visa workers and immigrants to elite investors who could then avoid paying higher wages to ordinary Americans. Jayapal’s plan would also prevent blue-collar Americans and legal immigrants from using labor shortages to raise their social status or to gain better working conditions or productivity-boosting machinery.

In Jayapal’s diverse homeland, manual laborers are deemed “Shudras” or “untouchables” whose social status is kept below the inherited classes of priestly “Brahmins,” warrior and ruler “Kshatriyas” and merchant “Vaishyas.”

In Christian-derived America, however, legal workers are equal Americans in a level labor-market, whether or not they are born in the United States.

“But the lives of Americans and their children should not be the primary concern of the American government, the Democratic Representative wrote. Instead, the United States must place the concern of migrants first because “a fair and forward-looking immigration system must be at the heart of America’s moral imagination.”:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/03/democrat-rep-pramila-jayapal-ceos-must-get-millions-of-cheap-visa-workers/

Duh. I thought we already put the rights and welfare ahead of those who never set foot on these shores before American citizens.


Paul Emery

Wow News Flash

Trump accuses Roger Stone of being guilty of crimes because he took the 5th Amendment!!!


“The mob takes the Fifth,” he said at an Iowa campaign rally in September. “If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”


"Longtime Trump confidante Roger Stone on Tuesday invoked his Fifth Amendment right in declining to share documents and testimony with members of the Senate Judiciary Committee, according to a letter posted by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.

Read Newsmax: Roger Stone Invokes 5th Amendment in Senate Judiciary Docs Request | Newsmax.com

Don Bessee

Is that all?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/04/study-more-than-7-in-10-california-immigrant-households-are-on-welfare/

;-)

Scott O

scenes at 4:18 - That's a pretty chilling message from Cook. He's not talking about any particular web site or social media platform. He's talking about (in the case of Apple) an operating system and the storage facilities and server platforms they might run. And he wants the others to follow suit?
Remember when we were promised an open and free internet system?
Bad enough to get kicked off of social media sites for conservative thought or relating facts the left doesn't like.
How far off are we from folks getting an email that warns you your email and/or internet service will be cut off due to your 'non-compliance' with social justice goals?

Don Bessee

Perhaps the Dark Lord of Liberal Lament Land can recruit some readers from this thought Nazi crowd -


https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/12/04/snl-comedian-nimesh-patel-kicked-off-columbia-university-stage-by-offended-students/

;-)

Scott O

Don at 5:08: C'mon, Don - they're the diverse and vibrant additions to our society and economy. Think of all the jobs created to serve them at the welfare offices!

Scott O

Don 6:18 - Hilarious!
"The goal of the event was to provide “a platform for a diversity of Asian American artistic expression,” as well as seeking to break through “stereotypes and challenges.”"
It said 'seeking to beak through' - not to actually break through.
Let's not take this diversity thing too far, now!
LOL
The only fun left in politics is watching the left eat itself.

Todd Juvinall

Trump accuses? Or is that a Paul Emery make-a-quote?

Bill Tozer

Re: update

And there it is for all to see:

https://m.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.254420818025296/1493658547434844/?type=3&source=48

https://m.facebook.com/BuckSexton/photos/a.568156706588519/2250618771675629/?type=3&source=48

Walt

Hey Paul,, this was the chick you said would take Trump down?
Looks like she's the one getting the shaft.(in more ways than one)
LOL!! You going to help pay her legal bills?(and judgment)

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/04/trumps-attorneys-seek-800000-legal-fees-penalties-stormy-daniels/

You better get a permit to install a stripper pole.
And will you be the shyster lawyer's campaign manager when he runs for president? (Libs sure have a three ring circus going for that).

Don Bessee

@634 - That's a LOT of lap dances!

;-)

Bill Tozer

I have said it once, I will say it again: You can’t shame a psychopath. Quote of the day:

Delusions of grandeur: “I think the field is shaping up to be even more advantageous for someone like me, not less. I think my chances have only gone up, not gone down.” —attorney Michael Avenatti

Walt

Ya, Don,, 800.000 grand in legal bills. OOHHHH how Pauly was all giddy when she first showed up. What happened Paul?
Even you throwing her under the bus?

Scott O

Sorry gents, Stormy's legal counsel just up and quit. Probably needs to spend more time with his family or something.
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/michael-avenatti-announces-he-will-not-run-for-president/
But be of good cheer - Bidens in for the run. Uncle Joe does want Stormy's phone number from Avenatti in case he wins and needs a personal assistant.

Bill Tozer

According to the social justice warriors (and the Leftinista Media Industrial Complex), if you say anything bad about George Soros, you are an antisemite! Nancy has a fine line to walk.

“However, Pelosi’s task will be difficult, given the increasingly anti-Israel drift of her party as a whole. Not a single Democrat — herself included — traveled to Israel to attend the opening of the U.S. embassy in Jerusalem in May, nor the Israeli embassy’s party to celebrate that event in Washington, DC.

“Representative-elect Rashida Tlaib of Michigan’s 11th congressional district, for example, who is celebrated by “progressives” as the first Muslim woman and first Palestinian-American elected to Congress, openly supports the destruction of Israel — a policy that cost her the endorsement of even far-left J Street, which wishes to appear pro-Israel by backing a a two-state solution.

“Representative-elect Ilhan Omar, from Minnesota’s 5th congressional district, shares the title of first Muslim woman elected to Congress with Tlaib. She also has a record of anti-Israel statements that she tried to obscure during the election. After November 6, she admitted that she supported BDS — a flip-flop that drew criticism from of some of her Jewish constituents, whom she misled.

“And “democratic socialist” Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who will represent New York’s 14th district, sided with Hamas in its protests earlier this year at the Gaza border, and said she opposed the “occupation of Palestine.”

“Tlaib told the Intercept on Sunday that she would decline a trip to Israel offered to new U.S. representatives by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), and would lead a delegation to the West Bank — known to many Jews as Judea and Samaria — instead.

“Tlaib added that she supports the BDS movement — a movement so radical that even left-wing California passed anti-BDS legislation in 2016.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/04/bds-nancy-pelosi-tries-to-reassure-jews-after-new-democrats-back-boycott-of-israel/

Hmm. Why am I not surprised: After November 6, she admitted that she supported BDS — a flip-flop that drew criticism from of some of her Jewish constituents, whom she misled.

Don Bessee

So how long will it take for sjw's to start asking how many safe spaces you could buy with that or how many tattoos you could remove from 23 year old child MS-13 'refugees' or even how many planned, pay to play 'pop up protests'?

Why not go the full 41?

https://news.usni.org/2018/12/04/navy-jets-depart-for-texas-ahead-of-unprecedented-21-aircraft-flyover-for-bush-funeral

;-)

Robert Cross

“The mob takes the Fifth,” Trump said at an Iowa campaign rally in September. “If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

Brilliant subterfuge here. Knowing Stone isn't going to rat him out (yet) Trump's comment is designed to give the impression that Trump wants justice and, therefore, is himself innocent on all charges.

Bill Tozer

Scott @ 7:01 pm

Well, you lose some (bye Avenatti) and you win some.

https://patriotpost.us/articles/59819-scotus-rejects-ecofascist-challenge-to-border-wall?fbclid=IwAR2yVestt6BxYbbdnLCNtzGRqcdOsLUC-PyXfY-oR4pQ2Rp_9_vL3Hpkm7k

Don Bessee

WHOA NELLY! This shit aint gonna work, is Keith Ellison behind it?

Exclusive — Justice Department Emails Confirm Female Genital Mutilation Convicts Eligible for Early Release in Current Criminal Justice Reform Bill

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/04/exclusive-justice-department-female-genital-mutilation-convicts-eligible-for-early-release-in-criminal-justice-reform-bill/

;-)

scenes

re: Robert Cross @ 7:51PM

. Trump sez nothing. HE MUST BE HIDING SOMETHING!
. Trump sez Stone should take the 5th. HE MUST BE HIDING SOMETHING!
. Trump sez Stone shouldn't take the 5th. BRILLIANT SUBTERFUGE!

lol. You cats crack me up. You should probably get back to your plans for poking the Israeli Jews into the sea at the point of a bayonet. Make a plan and stick to it.

re: President Creepy Uncle Joe

https://rashmanly.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/doolcvixuaah5y9.jpg

You know, I kind of like the idea. Who can hate a man that loves kids so much?

re: Tlaib/Cortez/Omar

There's a refreshing honesty in them I think. They appear to represent the future of the Democratic party and I'd just as soon know what's what.

Bill Tozer

Bye Avenetti and hello Joe!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=119144222439442&set=gm.524572334724937&type=3&theater&ifg=1

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10101883280842366&set=gm.521238228391681&type=3&theater&ifg=1

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10101883579693466&set=gm.521517745030396&type=3&theater&ifg=1

Ah heck, don’t forget about My Gal

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10101885536062886&set=gm.522772924904878&type=3&theater&ifg=1

Don Bessee

Even Bagdad by the Bay noticed!

Macron is hardly alone in his frustration. Leaders in the United States, Canada, Australia and elsewhere have found their carbon pricing efforts running into fierce opposition. But the French reversal was particularly disheartening for climate-policy experts, because it came just as delegates from around the world were gathering in Katowice, Poland, for a major conference designed to advance climate measures.

"Like everywhere else, the question in France is how to find a way of combining ecology and equality," said Bruno Cautrès, a researcher at the Paris Institute of Political Studies. "Citizens mostly see punitive public policies when it comes to the environment: taxes, more taxes and more taxes after that. No one has the solution, and we can only see the disaster that's just occurred in France on this question."

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/France-s-protesters-are-part-of-a-global-backlash-13443080.php

;-)

fish

Posted by: Robert Cross | 04 December 2018 at 07:51 PM


Positively Clintonian isn't it....!


.....and as always.....thanks bobsy!

Todd Juvinall

Uh oh, another example of what the gun banning left says never happens.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/south-carolina-woman-kills-escaped-jail-inmate-who-kicked-down-her-door-sheriff-says

Bill Tozer

@ 9:05 pm

A follow up on this side of the Pond.

“In Arizona, voters said no to accelerating the shift to renewable energy. In Colorado, they said no to an effort to sharply limit drilling on nonfederal land. And a measure to make Washington the first state to tax carbon emissions appears to have fallen short.

Even in the solidly blue state of Washington, initial results looked grim for perhaps the most consequential climate-related ballot measure in the country this fall: a statewide initiative that would have imposed a first-in-the-nation fee on emissions of carbon dioxide, the most prevalent of the greenhouse gases that drive global warming. While voters in King County, home to Seattle, turned out heavily in favor of the measure, residents across the rest of the state largely opposed it.

“One bright spot for environmental advocates came in Nevada, where voters appeared poised to pass a measure similar to the one Arizonans rejected. It would require utilities to generate 50 percent of their electricity from renewables by 2030. The proposal was leading handily with most votes tallied Wednesday. But before the measure could become law, it has to survive a second vote in 2020.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/energy-environment/2018/11/07/ballot-measures-taking-aim-climate-change-fall-short/?utm_term=.214a6f68f23c

Bill Tozer

Re: update

I rather liked Steve’s reply as he laid out his POV and worldview in a clear, consice, and complete manner. Some folks just don’t do change well. :)
Yes, there are inherent tensions when cultures clash (collide), the changing of the guard, and folks seeking advantage by divisiness. Folks seeking power, property, and prestige is also a human trait. We do have common human values, as evidenced by laws against murder in so many nations across the globe. Intuitively, most humans know murder is wrong, law or no law. Yet, not all cultures share our common values for human life, liberty, or the sanctity of the individual. Politics is downstream of culture. And not all cultures share of unique history, laws, or geography.

Several question should: Is America an idea or a country? Second, has human nature really changed at all through the centuries? Are the sins of our forefathers any worse than, say, the destructiveness and divisiveness of Identify Politics or race baiting, or Imperialism? Steve talked of communication and our unique history...and our values. What binds us as Americans if it is not our common language, culture, and borders?

I liked this paragraph more that the link....but the link isn’t bad, albeit we circled this barn before.

“The evil that men do lives after them, the good is oft interred with their bones.” So said William Shakespeare. Few of us are likely to withstand the withering judgment of those who come after us, whatever our positive contributions to humankind might be. And what will we have learned from history about the complexity of human experience if the monuments disappear?

http://thefederalist.com/2018/12/05/tearing-uncs-confederate-memorial-threatens-monuments-henry-ford-harry-truman-mahatma-gandhi/

Brave new world?

https://m.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10156050480780914/?type=3

https://www.facebook.com/groups/284355732079933/?fref=nf

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