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10 December 2018

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Bill Tozer

Re : Boadman’s column.

First, I wish to say hi to Mr. Boardman when he reads this. “Hi ya, George B!”

My complaint is why is it folks always put things in 10 year or weird timeframes nowadays? Will save 3.5 billion over ten years and the like. Boardman uses 22 years. Makes it harder to divide by ten in my head to get the figure of how much it costs us taxpayers this calendar year in real time, tossing out inflation and such.

“Rice farmers were second only to cotton growers when it came to collecting subsidies in California, harvesting $2.7 billion in subsidies during the 22-year period. Rice farmers in LaMalfa's 1st congressional district collected over $636 million during the period, while constituents of Rep. Tom McClintock received over $39 million.

“The LaMalfa Family Partnership ranked 23rd among California rice farmers during that period, collecting $5,294,095, according to EWG. LaMalfa, who owns 33 percent of the partnership, has collected more subsidy money than any other current member of Congress, according to EWG”

Ok, 22 year period. Rice farmers in La Malfa’s District collected 636 million over twenty-two years and McClintock over 39 million. The LaMalfa farm collected 5,249, 095 of which Tom owns a third.

LaMalfa’s district: 636 million divided by 22 years is ~ 29 million/year, average.
La Malfa himself: 5.295 million divided by 22 years divided by 33.33% = $80,219/year.

Tom McClintock’s district: 39 mil divided by 22 = 2.77 mil a year for whole district.

Friggin rice eaters. Almost as bad as the cotton pickin’ cotton pickers.


Bill Tozer

Re: Laffer lives, tax rates do affect people’s behavior

Excactly, Dr. Rebane. It was the first thing that crossed by mind (about taxes and behavior) when reading about the Yellow Vests. I would never ever put myself in your league or caliber of knowledge or critical thinking, save to say great minds think alike.

I remember when folks (who could afford to) fled NYC for Connecticut. Now, because of high taxes, folks are fleeing Connecticut for tax friendlier Florida and other places and taking themselves, businesses, and headquarters with them. Connecticut is even offering younger people 20 grand to move there under certain conditions...like staying there five years and paying them higher taxes. I played with the numbers and it’s a wash, if not dismissing returns.
No, taxes don’t affect human behavior. Right.....

Albeit the frog leg and snail eating French are accustomed to paying exorbitant gas taxes, I got the feeling the unwashed folks on the street are saying “Taxed Enough Already.”

Robert Cross

"Why is Trump singled out for such a contract that involved alleged events before he became a candidate, and the effect of which on the election is debatable and yet to be demonstrated?"--

trump is singled out because the contract was in violation of campaign finance laws and were enacted solely to keep the details of trump's adulterous affairs out of the public eye. The effect of the election is debatable only because the voting pubic (a majority of whom did not vote for trump) were not aware that he was an adulterer at the time of the election, and as such, any effect cannot be demonstrated.

"Didn’t Hillary also pay staff (possibly with government or campaign funds)"..... pure speculation on your part with no proof what-so-ever and thus is an invalid feeble attempt at countering trump's indiscretions by throwing a red herring into the fray. #weak --

How many lies, distortions, and crimes will it take for people to wake up to the fact that trump is a total grifter and goombah and the world is worse off then when he started?

George Rebane

RobertC 541pm - I notice that you didn't touch the Hillary part of the overall question. Was that merely an oversight?

Gregory

Thanks, Bobby!

Golly, I'm perfectly happy with Trump's position on Global Warming, all his really great judicial appointments (thanks to Mitch McC for his work making them happen) and his wiping off the face of the Earth of Obama's executive orders.

The Trump sh*t sh*w can best be seen as his way to keep people off balance while he figures out something to do... a modern day Zaphod Beeblebrox.

fish
”This is the best George Rebane could do. For a supposed PhD. the man shows little to no intellectual rigor, substituting hyperbole for real stats. The only “exodus” on Rebane’s watch was his: “white flight” from Simi Valley to Greater Cement Hill. A “pseudo-intellect,” to be sure!”


“......fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life son”

- Dean Vernon Wormer

George Rebane

fish 837pm - I take it that the FUE is still lonely, and more ignorant than ever. The man should become familiar with government bureaus and agencies that collect and publish such data as on California's out migration - here's a little freebie tutoring for him.
https://lao.ca.gov/laoecontax/article/detail/265

Don Bessee

@ 845 - No time for that what with examining every millimeter of the newspaper that broke his heart!


;-)

Bill Tozer

I reckon if I had the world’s largest yeast infection, I’d be lonely too.

fish

jeffpellinesays:

December 10, 2018 at 9:41 pm

“fish” (afraid to post his real name) is the Sergeant Schultz of the “Hogan’s Heroes” in the rightwing blogosphere, blindly saluting Col. Klink. Meanwhile, Klink is worried that Californians with a high-school education are fleeing to Texas: https://lao.ca.gov/laoecontax/article/detail/265 Not only that but “These population losses are low in historical terms,” as the study he cites states. Oh no, he undermined his own argument! Intellectual phonies.


Hogans Heroes references……?


Way to keep it cutting edge Jenny Craig!

Russell Steele

California Population Out Flow

As for outflow, 661,026 exited California, a scant 1.7 percent slice of the population. Texas — the second most-populous state — was the top destination for who departed the Golden State: 63,174 left for the Lone State state. Next came west-of-the-Rockies states: Arizona (59,233); followed by Washington (52,484); Oregon (50,109) and Nevada (47,513).

Relocation’s ‘net’

All these ins and outs add up to what’s called a “net” migration score. California’s total net outmigration — more exits than arrivals — was 137,895 last year or 0.4 percent of the population.

https://www.ocregister.com/2018/12/09/who-moves-where-easterners-like-california-while-californians-like-far-west/

Paul Emery

Most of the departures likely were Republicans as witnessed by the sad disappearance of the Republican party in California

George Rebane

PaulE 717am - You're no doubt right Paul. Do you (or Russ?) have any more data on the demographics of those exiting 660K?

660K is an enormous number given CA's current employment of about 18.6M workers. Since one third of US welfare recipients live in CA, and more gimmes are arriving daily, that emigration number looks even worse. No one on the dole or on the lam from immigration authorities wants to leave CA.

Here are some extremely revealing numbers about CA's workforce and changes in it.
https://calbudgetcenter.org/resources/how-californias-workforce-is-changing-and-why-state-policy-has-to-change-with-it/

Robert Cross

George 6:30 --"I notice that you didn't touch the Hillary part of the overall question. " ""Didn’t Hillary also pay staff (possibly with government or campaign funds)".."

In your feeble attempt to discredit my comments you apparently missed this with regard to Hillary: " pure speculation on your part with no proof what-so-ever and thus is an invalid feeble attempt at countering trump's indiscretions by throwing a red herring into the fray."

Yes George I did touch on that part of the question. I noticed you failed to address the substance of my response and instead inserted the typical right wing response to trump's many indiscretions; Hillary, Hillary, Hillary... Hillary is not the President so no one really gives a crap about what she did or didn't do except trump apologists who keep bringing her up to deflect attention away from the real problem, trump.

fish

Posted by: Robert Cross | 11 December 2018 at 09:50 AM

….thanks bobsy!

George Rebane

RobertC 950am - "...no body really give a crap ..." except about 50M Americans. What part of your 541pm did I not address that needed addressing?

Robert Cross

George 10:47 --"except about 50M Americans"-- Really George? do you mean those same trump supporters, like yourself, that are scrambling to come up with any excuse they can find to deflect conversation away from trump's high crimes and misdemeanors by trying to implicate the Clintons? You all are kicking a dead horse.

To repeat myself:

George wrote: "Why is Trump singled out for such a contract that involved alleged events before he became a candidate, and the effect of which on the election is debatable and yet to be demonstrated?"--

Robert responded: "trump is singled out because the contract was in violation of campaign finance laws and were enacted solely to keep the details of trump's adulterous affairs out of the public eye. The effect of the election is debatable only because the voting pubic (a majority of whom did not vote for trump) were not aware that he was an adulterer at the time of the election, and as such, any effect cannot be demonstrated."

You failed to address the legal aspects of those contracts and payments as they relate to election finance laws and election fraud and instead responded with Hillary Hillary Hillary.. same old crap excuse trumpeters continue to throw out there because they have nothing else to say that supports their position.

you are welcome little fishy-- your irrelevance is underwhelming.

fish

Posted by: Robert Cross | 11 December 2018 at 11:06 AM

you are welcome little fishy-- your irrelevance is underwhelming.


Hey….somebody pull the string in bobsys neck again…….he stopped talkin!

George Rebane

RobertC 1106am - didn't know I had to address them since you didn't ask. But now that you do, may I remind you that "the legal aspects of those contracts and payments as they relate to election finance laws and election fraud" are nowhere close to being either precisely identified and/or settled in any other minds save yours and those who think like you. Are you and MSNBC claiming to have the final say on the matter?

Robert Cross

George- Your "Are you and MSNBC claiming to have the final say on the matter?" response is quite Juvinal (pun intended). Perhaps you should be more widely read. Multiple news outlets (legitimate ones not Faux) are discussing the possible ramifications of trump directing the payments as per Cohen's sworn testimony. Multiple legal experts have chimed in on the subject and their observations do not bode well for the trumpster. In fact some are saying that if trump were not President he would have been indicted by now. True, the issues will not be settled until the whole truth comes out and just as the red House did everything it could to stall and obfuscate the investigation, the blue House will do everything it can to bring out the truth.

As for your response "may I remind you....." tells me nothing about what you actually think about the issue.

fish

….and nominated for the most unintentionally funny line of 2018


The nominees are….


Ah screwit…..we already know the winner


"…...the blue House will do everything it can to bring out the truth".


bobsy you are truly a master of comedy!

George Rebane

RobertC 1241pm - Yes, I can always be more widely read - the 24hr/day curse. But you have not read my commentaries and comments in these streams where I've made clear my take on the payments (yes I believe he authorized them) and whether they constitute a material violation of campaign finance laws (no I don't believe they do because of the nature of a private contractual agreement involving private funds between two willing parties). Everyone knows how the Dems' political interpretation of their truth will be once in power. You're really beating a dead horse here until Mueller gets an indictment.

Still don't know what the "red House" did to "stall and obfuscate the investigation" - they had no power to do any of it to Mueller's efforts.

Billl Tozer

Re: CA emigration.
Leaving California? Leaving cities, the gridlock, the crime, the trash police who check your garage cans for a aluminum can tossed in, leaving the water police, and mostly leaving the Progressive mindset behind. Progressive is really a misnomer . More like the police state. Libs love the police state because they think it will never be used against them.

Christmas will different this year for me. Went to my Aunt’s funeral this past October. AST time I will see the whole family and relatives in one place. The last of my grandparents (both sides) siblings passed on. My brother announced he made an offer (accepted) on a place out of state. Way out of state Afterall those years with his big home on a bluff overlooking the ocean in Santa Cruz, he has had enough of CA. And he is not even political.

My little sister (who is never ever political nor gives a hoot about politics) at the funeral announced that they are putting their home on the market and leaving CA. Her husband does what only 2-3 people in all of LA know what to go. It’s not the money. They have 7 acres on their private pond the middle of miles of rows of new condos and development and congestion in the urban sprawl. It’s the rules and regulations in CA. Of their five kids, (4 are Berekely grads, the other one overcame a rare disabilitiy a become a nurse), all have left CA.

My aunt’s three sons (my cousins) were there at her funeral, of course. All certified Mensa members. One cousin and his wife moved in with my aunt to care for his mother for the last 5 years, postphoning his retirement plans. Highly educated bigwig at the largest school district in America, LAUSD. Now that my aunt died, he is out of here, like within days. Bought a house with land outside of Prescott, Az. Of the other cousins (including all their kids and grandchildren), only two have remained in CA...my cousin and his wife in the Bay Area. Highly educated, one teaches opera voice and the other is in graphic design. He’s the guy who put Roger Craig in underwear back in the day. Those two will remain, all the children and grandchildren on that side have left CA.

Of all the family members that have left CA in the last few years alone, only one (the black sheep) moved to Texas. And he likes it. Only place where he could find work with his geology degree from Berekely. Black Sheep because he works for Big Oil. :)

So, Christmas will be different this year. Just me and and an older sister remain, both whom fled the cities long ago....and left that San Francisco Values mentality far behind.

So tell me again how only blue collar uneducated yahoos are moving to Texas or to other states as they are fleeing CA. I am all ears. The uneducated yahoos like me stay. Go figure. Have you seen the new Silicone Valley they are building in Texas? Techies only need apply.

Tell me again how only uneducated right wing extremist Dregs of Society are leaving CA, you arrogant bastards.

Walt

Queen Nan and Chuck E. Cheese Schumer sure don't like having what they say on the public record.
Shut down the Gov. They should know he will do it.

Bonnie McGuire

Trump to Schumer: ‘I Am Proud to Shut Down the Government for Border Security’
Pelosi said she didn't want the American people to hear what they were saying. But, the president told her that's what "TRANSPARENCY" is all about.
Looks like some transparency...Too funny. Actual videos of the meetings providing truthful political unbiased news coverage? How wonderful! Here's why...Then and now gives a bigger view.
Chuck Schumer in 2009: Illegal Immigration is wrong, plain and simple:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MdAyn89hFIo

Todd Juvinall

http://sierradragonsbreathe.blogspot.com/2018/12/trump-is-winning.html

See if you agree.

***M***

,,,yes Bonnie,,,actual videos were funny,,, especially the Mike Pence Elf on the Shelf portrayal!!! He almost looked lifelike!!!

***M***

When is Mexico going to begin making payments to our government contractors for the Great Wall???

Don Bessee

Oh isn't that cute, the troll can parrot the party line @727 (who remembers flying on one of those?)

They see an elf but we see a guy who wants to put a boot up someone's ass who is not going to give away anything to the craven socialists!

=============================

Hey LOOK! The Feds are out of the puddles business, about time those central control freaks are defanged!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-administration-proposes-major-rollback-of-water-rules


;-)

George Rebane

BonnieM 717pm - Just for the record, one of the scattershot segments referred to that Schumer speech along with a link to the 2-minute video. Sure would be nice if you guys read my screeds before commenting. ;-)

Russ

Robert Cross -- Trump’s Ex-Lawyer Didn’t Violate Campaign Finance Laws, and Neither Did the President

It seems pretty clear that the Federal Election Campaign Act wasn’t meant to cover what Cohen has pleaded guilty to, which is why the Edwards prosecution failed. It is also highly doubtful that if this case had been presented to the Federal Election Commission, where I used to serve as a commissioner, it would find a violation of the law.

No one can excuse the tax evasion and financial fraud charges to which Cohen has pleaded guilty. And as former Federal Election Commission Chairman Brad Smith recently said, we can probably all agree that these “payments to women were unseemly.”

But “that doesn’t mean they were illegal,” says Smith, regardless of the fact that the Southern District of New York convinced Cohen to plead guilty.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/12/11/cohen-didnt-violate-campaign-finance-laws-and-neither-did-trump/

scenes

re: History ended in 1945.

My take is that it just started over. Nuclear states locked down their borders, but there are other things going on.

I'm attracted to the idea (as posted in a youtube vidya some time ago) of a shift in creation myths. Cultures have their founding stories, a lot of them overstated or just made-up, and failing firm outside control need them to form a kind of glue.

Old creation stories: rule Britannia, US expansion West, Christianity (mostly Protestant), George Washington's cherry tree, Thanksgiving.

New creation stories: original sin of slavery, Crusades, holocaust, colonialism. Peaceful and pastoral indigenous Americans living as one with the land. Hitler.

Year 1945 isn't the end of history, it's just Year Zero.

No wonder the Blue Mob wants to tear down the old order. There's an underlying moral authority that's stronger than logic, stronger than tradition. In a real sense, Hitler (as Satan) has become their founder. It's a kind of anti-philosophy.

Bill Tozer

Russ @ 6:41 am

This Cohen testimony reminds me of the Kavanaugh hearings. Grab Dr. Ford, place her in front of the cameras, make an allegation that is impossible to disprove, then whisk her out of there at a high rate of speed. The goal was to get the allegation (charge) out in public., not the evidence.

Same with Cohen, albeit is a two part charge. Get him in court, have him stand and say what the prosecutors told him to say, state he did this and that cause Trump told hm to, and get him out of court as soon as he leveled the charge. Hard for Trump to prove a negative. Just get the accusation out in public, Cohen’s job is done.

I suspect the Meuller report will be the same. Nothing on Trump, but a whole lot of accusations. What, after two years and 30 million bucks, he is going to come back with some dubious campaign violation that probably won’t hold up in court and is in iolation of the DOJ’s rules and practices? I think not. Nope, toss out another allegation...which is the point of matter.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10101894845531636&set=gm.529040904278080&type=3&theater

A candidate getting a haircut cannot be a campaign expense. If the canidate gets a haircut once a month, he would continue to do so whether he was running for office or running a business. Only the unhinged Left would argue that getting a haircut to maintain a professional appearance is done solely to try to influence an election.

George Rebane

The campaign violations of Trump v. Hillary continue to amaze me the way they are received by the Left. Using his own money, Trump paid off some bimbos, with whom he is alleged to have affairs, to remain silent and not embarrass his campaign by the disclosure of acts that had no bearing on national security or his ability to govern. Hillary, as SecState then candidate, used campaign and foundation funds to pay off private staff to confidentially maintain her illegal private servers so as to circumvent laws requiring her to conduct government business on government IT networks. In doing so she demonstrably and with impunity sacrificed national security, which behavior bore directly on her ability to govern.

The former is now considered an impeachable offense for TBD violation of election laws, the latter is dismissed on the grounds that she really didn't mean to hide all those thousands of damning emails (now scrubbed) and expose our nation's confidential information to foreign hackers.

Bill Tozer

Scenes @ 8:13 am

“It isn’t a coincidence that millennials, the most historically, constitutionally and biblically illiterate generation, are also the most progressive. Progressivism requires no critical thinking whatsoever. Hollywood & academia present it as the only option. It’s the easy way.” —Allie Beth Stuckey

***M***

,,,George,,,don't forget the Right impeached Clinton over lying about a BJ,,,and as you say,,,the act had no bearing on national security or his ability to govern

***M***

I have been watching Faux vs. the Fake news media and find it hilarious that as the noose is tightening around Trump Faux is trying to distract from the current bad news by dredging up old conspiracies about Hillary's emails,,,that no one can prove were hacked or that they had anything of value to foreign intelligence agencies.

fish

Posted by: ***M*** | 12 December 2018 at 12:00 PM


You guys thought it was a horrible injustice then but you're perfectly fine with it now! Remind us again how you are the party of principles!

Gregory

"M" 1200pm

It was lying UNDER OATH about multiple bjs and the soiling of a perfectly good cigar by a sub-sub-sub-subordinate in a civil trial called by a sub-subordinate who was picked out by State Troopers as exactly the kind of trailer trash that the Governor wanted to polish his pole.

Now, if you want to make it illegal to ask employees you don't even know for sexual favors, it kinda goes without saying there'll be lawsuits when it happens and key to lawsuits is giving testimony UNDER OATH.

fish

Chanelling your inner Belushi proggies?!


C'mon…..who's with me?! Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!


http://ace.mu.nu/archives/open%20borders%20open%20doors.jpg

***M***

,,,thanks Greg but you did not add anything new to the conversation

,,,My comment to Fish went over his head,,,but I understand because he is underwater on most things...The Publicans taught us the principle of Whitewater style investigations,,,so you should be proud

fish

Posted by: ***M*** | 12 December 2018 at 02:25 PM

My comment to Fish went over his head


Oh dugsKKKi I glance at your posts only for their comedic or ironic value (not much of either today). Gregory is right though it wasn't that President Leghorn was diddling some half bright chunky monkey in the Oval Office it's that he was stupid enough to let himself get trapped into lying under oath. At that point it did effect his ability to govern!

Now go put on a fresh one and return to watching Nickelodeon like your minder told you!

***M***

,,,oh dear Fish,,,you are still underwater per George's definition of what is ok to do in the Oval Orfice,,, """the disclosure of acts that had no bearing on national security or his ability to govern'''

it was '''the act''',,,not what rabid pubbers tried to make of the act!!!

***M***

Kick the bastards out!!!

https://tinyurl.com/y7jnwwvb

Walt

The Proggys our Leftists love to crow about voting for, are not even in office yet, and are already screaming " NEW TAXES FOR EVERYONE!!!"
And Trump should be waiting with that VETO pen.

***M***

oh walt,,,prove it!!! make my day ,,,I hope it is from daily caller or brightbarf!!!

fish

Posted by: ***M*** | 12 December 2018 at 02:54 PM


Senesence……truly a modern tragedy!

***M***

,,,nice try to cover your general incomprehension Fish

Walt

Thanks again for proving "M" stands for MORON.
Go ahead. Don't believe me. I really don't care. Stop the TROLLing , and use the computer for things other than porn. Like REAL information.
https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/12/democrats-tax-rule-change/
House Democrats caved to their progressive wing Tuesday and decided to scrap a rule that would have required a three-fifths supermajority vote to pass any new tax hikes.

Democratic New York Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez celebrated the move.

“When I first won, folks said we were too naive, inexperienced, and uninformed to be effective,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote on Twitter Tuesday. “Yet in our first weeks, we elevated Green New Deal to national urgency, secured 30 cosponsors on a Select Committee, and helped stop a bad tax rule. I’d say we’re off to a good start.”

Well Dougy,, LIBS think what happened in France just "can't happen here".

It goes to show the LIB electorate are as gullible as sheep to slaughter.

fish

Posted by: ***M*** | 12 December 2018 at 03:30 PM


You spelled "indifference" wrong dugsKKKi!


Christ……I'm dealing with amateurs here!

Paul Emery

Shouldn't you capitalize your name fish? Normally that's the proper way to write a name. I know you're a mystery woman or man afraid to reveal his or hers true identity. Pretty dramatic for our small town.

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 12 December 2018 at 04:10 PM


Really….this is what caught your eye this afternoon?

It's just a blogging handle….been lower case since I started here Paul.

Paul Emery

Well you were into correcting spelling and grammar so I thought I'd bring it up.

***M***

,,,no Walter,,,aka M for Mensa Man,,,see the WaPo article if you are not afraid to look at something besides BreitbarF or Daily Crier

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/democrats-face-early-division-over-tax-hikes-rules/2018/11/16/9500b97a-e9d5-11e8-bbdb-72fdbf9d4fed_story.html?utm_term=.3863bad955d8

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 12 December 2018 at 04:22 PM

Well you were into correcting spelling and grammar so I thought I'd bring it up.


Paul Emery…..missing the obvious since the 70's!

Robert Cross

In the "hush money payoffs are illegal" dept. The parent company of the National Enquirer has admitted to federal prosecutors “its principal purpose” in paying former Playboy Playmate Karen McDougal $150,000 ahead of the 2016 election was to “suppress” her story about an alleged affair with Donald Trump for the explicit purpose of improving the then-candidate’s chances of victory. They went on to admit the payment was made in direct “cooperation, consultation and concert with one or more” members of the Trump campaign. The press release stated the payments were made “in concert with a candidate’s presidential campaign, and in order to ensure that the woman did not publicize damaging allegations about the candidate before the 2016 presidential election." AMI further admitted that its "principal purpose in making the payment was to suppress the woman’s story so as to prevent it from influencing the election.”

Corporations are not legally allowed to make payments in hopes of influencing an election. Does the term election fraud ring a bell with anyone here yet?

fish

Posted by: Robert Cross | 12 December 2018 at 06:55 PM

Does the term election fraud ring a bell with anyone here yet?


Yes….but only when discussing democrats.

……and thanks bobsy!

Bill Tozer

Robert Cross,

I just don’t see anything definitive there at this point in time. It’s a press release. Like Lanny Davis being Cohen’s communications director, they can say what they want. How many guys in Alcatraz have communications directors?, lol.
But, back to your point, I just don’t see a strong legal case against Trump. Maybe, maybe not. Seems like a stretch. More political jeopardy than legal jeopardy at this point, IMHO. The problem is there is no cross examination, no presenting any exculpatory evidence, just the procesution’s case. Time will tell. I figure if Meuller had anything importan on Trump, they would have charged Cohen will more counts to plead guilty to and held him as a witness. Like the Kavanaugh hearings in a way. Time will tell. I just don’t find much interest in the story at this point. It’s kinda boring.
But, I am glad Cohen will do time for tax fraud, filing false financial statements, and lying to get a home line of equity, not to mention lying to the investigators. That is serious stuff and he should do at least 3 years for that. I wish all those who submitted liars loan applications leading up to the Crash of 2007 were thrown in jail as well, but noooooo.

Anyway, this story does not grab me as something that will hold up in court. Cohen is guilty, but is Trump? I personally am more concerned how they did General Flynn dirty than concerned with the Cohen story at this point. They did a good man Mike Flynn real dirty. Carry on. I am watching the story shake out for a few ways. But, by all means, go for it.

https://www.facebook.com/BuckSexton/photos/a.176191582451702/2266380113432828/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/BuckSexton/photos/a.568156706588519/2266378523432987/?type=3&theater

scenes

Nice.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/incoming-new-york-attorney-general-plans-wide-ranging-investigations-trump-n946706

"New York Attorney Gen.-elect Letitia James says she plans to launch sweeping investigations into President Donald Trump, his family and "anyone" in his circle who may have violated the law once she settles into her new job next month.

"We will use every area of the law to investigate President Trump and his business transactions and that of his family as well," James, a Democrat, told NBC News in her first extensive interview since she was elected last month."

lol. I'm sure this all seems reasonable to the Blue Mob.

There really is no reason to compromise at this point.

scenes

The article about the obviously non-partisan NY Attorney General lead me to this:

https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/08/the-value-of-trump-to-the-trump-voter-is-that-he-stands-between-them-and-theresistance/

which lead me to this:

https://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election/

I like that. The 'Flight 93 Election'. If you don't want the Blue Mob burning down your house, it's worth thinking about.

Walt

Poor Bob.. Now making BS up to call election fraud?
Where was the suppressed votes? who was locked up and kept from voting? Who, how and where, were the votes changed?

Id hush money is illegal, then how come all the politicians in Sacramento have not been indicted? You that ignorant of the news about the "hush money fund" for them? OUR tax dollars! (well, maybe not yours) Yes, tax dollars used to pay their "bad boy"antics off, and to keep the "victims" quiet. You know, criminal actions.

So genius, state the law where hush money is illegal.
BTW. Stormy Danials LOST. That NDA is legal and binding.
So how much you going to send her? She OWES 300,000.
Oh.. Wait.. You already did.

George Rebane

Scenes 823pm - Good find; I recommend it to all readers. Thanks.

Todd Juvinall

BoobioeC, there is no crime. If there was it would be on the extortionists not the victim. You really are a dumbass.

Bil Tozer

Second that, Dr. Rebane. Flight 93 Election.

Robert Cross

In the "you better get out of town while you can" dept. George Bush's former ethics chief, Richard Painter, had this to say after Cohen's sentencing, "“Donald Trump is in serious trouble. His lawyers ought to be telling him to negotiate a plea deal. Get him out of the White House. Have him resign, plead guilty to lower charges and let’s move on as a country.”

No CRIME eh Todd.. lots of CRIME according to anyone who actually knows anything and can discern fact from fiction.

fish

Oh Roberta......you know how you get!

‘’’M’’’

,,,yeah Tozer, good find,,,

The Claremont Colleges, located on the eastern edge of Los Angeles County, were the birthplace of intellectual Trumpism and the “Flight 93 Election” —

fish

Posted by: ‘’’M’’’ | 13 December 2018 at 07:08 AM


Shouldn't you be out sexing up caravaners dugsKKKi?

‘’’M’’’

,,,Flight 93 Election,,,written before Trump took office,,,nowadays wat does he think???

Bill Tozer

“Scenes 823pm - Good find; I recommend it to all readers. Thanks.”
Posted by: George Rebane | 12 December 2018 at 08:50 PM

Followed by

,,,yeah Tozer, good find,,,
Posted by: ‘’’M’’’ | 13 December 2018 at 07:08 AM

No accounting for stupid.

***M***

,,,Always Fish!!!

What Tozer??? You don't like the words I quoted??? Afraid to repost them???

https://www.vox.com/2018/11/19/17841946/trump-conservatism-california-gop-shapiro-midterms-2018

'''M'''

Keeping Locals Safe!!!

https://www.broadstreetbeacon.com/nevada-city-blogger-concerned-about-his-isis-neighbors/

Walt

Speaking of dumbshits, look who the DEM/Commie party wants for President. One who has no clue how the real world spins.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vox-mocked-after-calling-for-constitutional-amendment-so-that-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-can-run-for-president

What? An age limit for Prez? Well hells bells! Give grade schools kids the right to vote.

Bill Tozet

M @ 8:12 am

I see nothing in that great article that is not more valid today than when it was written. Nailed it. Language, borders, and culture.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10101892673404596&set=gm.527413251107512&type=3&theater&ifg=1

George Rebane

Administrivia - I deleted a bunch of crappola comments. They were off topic ad hominems which belong in sandboxes, if there. Am again considering moderating comments. But I hate to do that because it removes a lot of the spontaneity of productive conversations, and it's a bunch of added work for me. Thoughts?

Robert Cross

George--if you are serious about moderating crappola posts to encourage productive conversations then most of your regulars will become AWOL.

***M***

,,,Thanks George but you missed one of Fishy's fishy troll replies,,,

Posted by: ‘’’M’’’ | 13 December 2018 at 07:08 AM


Shouldn't you be out sexing up caravaners dugsKKKi?

Posted by: fish | 13 December 2018 at 07:09 AM

Bill Tozer

It is well worth replaying the video of Chuck Shummer above in the post again. I whole heartily agree. Illegal immigration is immoral. We cannot have waves of uneducated low skilled people coming in who cannot read or write in any language and taking jobs from legal aliens. Until the American people feel secure that these waves of low skilled burdens on society are stopped, there is no use continuing on with any talk about another amnesty. Reagen granted two million amnesty, the amnesty to end all amnesties, yet the waves of safet net busting hordes kept breaking in because of no Wall, no deterrent, no effective border security. As Chuck said, call them what they are: illegal aliens.

There is not one word of Senator Schumer’s two minute address that I disagree with.

Bonnie McGuire

GR 10pm... I think it's wonderful that Mexico decided to close its southern border to Guatemala. Hahaha...Do ya suppose Mexico can't afford to pay for the invasion of our border?

fish

Posted by: ***M*** | 13 December 2018 at 10:56 AM


Ahhhh......not just Old Man poopy but old man whiny too!

/shocked face

fish

Posted by: Robert Cross | 13 December 2018 at 10:07 AM

George--if you are serious about moderating crappola posts to encourage productive conversations then most of your regulars will become AWOL.

It will be interesting to see if you guys can browbeat George into making his blog as dull as the “moderated” blog of a certain gravitationally challenged local resident who still fancies himself a “newsman”.

“Thank you for sharing Robert”......”Well said Steve”.:....” Top drawer Douglas”!.....HAHAHAHAHhahaha!

Oh well......I guess we will see?


Bill Tozer

Trump releases his version of the illegal immigration video referenced above.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1073327086037741568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1073327086037741568&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbongino.com%2Fown-the-libs-trump-posts-video-of-top-democrats-supporting-border-security%2F

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