Sandbox - 28jan19

[... and I would also draw your kind attention to the 28jan19 update of the last Ruminations.  gjr]

Comments

[Todd Juvinall]

Fish on last stream
But when a gal is hot why would a male not acknowledge that? LOL! Maybe they are confused about which of the 67 genders they are?

[Paul Emery]

Fox is now on Trumps poop list. This man has no friends

President Donald Trump lashed out at his favorite network on Sunday, accusing two Fox News journalists of having “less understanding” of his proposed border wall than the “fake news” at his usual media targets, CNN and NBC.

Trump specifically called out the network’s chief White House correspondent John Roberts and Washington correspondent Gillian Turner:

[Todd Juvinall]

Still President

[Bill Tozer]

Changing gears briefly,.......... has anybody seen Murder Mountain on Netflix? It’s a six week series and I keep hearing about by people who don’t smoke pot, but are glued to their sets and spellbound by it. Investigative series. Guys with semi-automatic rifles slung over their backs wizzing by local LE on ATVs and the cops don’t even know who they are. Two girls from Wisconsin take the bus to the Emerald triangle are are never heard from again. Anyway, I don’t have Netflix but I may break down and get Roku for 7 bucks a month.....someday, but not today.

Anybody seen Murder Mountain? Sounds like the Wild West. Kinda like the border is now. In one area/office, the Arizona (or Texas) State Patrol napped 91 pounds of Fentanyl in November alone. That breaks down to something like 26 million doses. And that was their CHP, not the Border Patrol. Mercy.

[Paul Emery]

George

Would you consider it obstruction of justice if Trump were to pardon someone to prevent them from testifying against him in a criminal matter?

[MMM]

,,,yes Todd,,,still an idiotic blowhard president

[MMM]

"They don't go through your port of entry. They make a right turn going very quickly. They go into the desert areas, or whatever areas you can look at, and as soon as there is no protection they make a left or a right into the United States of America."

...Wow,,,I had no idea how smugglers got in,,,

you make a right turn very quickly (((without flipping your car))),,,now you are travelling in an easterly direction,,,you now follow the wall until it ends and then make a left turn,,,or a right turn,,,no worries,,,and you are in the good ol USA!!!

,,,a very stable genius!!!

[MMM]

Who is this Dougski? I am a Russian bot.

[MMM]

,,,attention on deck,,,the USS brownfish has commenced spoofing operations!!!

[MMM]

ROFLMAO. No, it ain’t Fish, Sherlock. It’s me, silly. If you ever want to hear a thief scream bloody murder, just rip him off. If you ever want to see a troll hit the 5 alarm fire button, just troll him. Love and butterfly kisses, Dougski of Del Oro. Man, you were sobbing like a baby when they took your camera away. Glad you got it back. Man, it’s true. The squeaking wheel gets the grease. Crying like a baby wanting his binkie back.

I am sorry. You look like you can use a hug and some nice warm milk and graham crackers.

[fish]

Posted by: MMM | 28 January 2019 at 01:01 PM

Can confirm…….! Not my thing!

[George Rebane]

PaulE 1146am - Pardoning someone convicted of crime(s) does not prevent them from having to testify in any subsequent judicial proceeding. Pardoning is only possible for past (specific and documented) crimes, not crimes to come such as perjuring oneself in future sworn testimony.

But the promise of pardon for future testimony against the pardoner is definitely obstruction of justice. The problem here is how do you prove 'the promise of pardon'. I cite this as a problem only for people who are not progressives, those for whom simple allegations of the promise of pardon is proof enough and sufficient to convict. Sufficient today, that is, in the court of public opinion, and soon in a court of law, depending on the progress of progressive power in the land.

[Bill Tozer]

Ok. It’s was me. I am so sorry, have no idea what came over me.

I promise to never do that again. Pinky promise. Cross my heart, hope to die, stick a needle in Dougie’s pie. No fingers crossed.

And a special deep regret expressed to our host who cringes at this sort of childish behavior. No, I won’t say, “What? Whatz yous expect from an irredeemable?” I offer no excuses. I will contemplate my actions and consider the innocent upon the Tree of Woe.

Like opening that jar of rotten eggs a kid has in his closet for some science experiment he was assigned the first day of 6th grade. You know you shouldn’t do it, but a weird quirk of temptation makes you open the jar anyway....knowing full well you shouldn’t do it. Or like picking a scab. H/T to a poster for that insight....last paragraph was his words about why he keeps going over to a certain unnamed blog. As a dog returns to his vomit. :).

[Paul Emery]

Thanks for your thoughtful response George. Let me give this some thought and I'll get back to you. Busy for awhile.

[scenes]

re: Obstruction of justice.

I don't know the answer, so I thought I'd ask the question.

Is threatening a potential witness with charges of their own considered obstruction of justice? If not, why not?

[Paul Emery]

In the case of Roger Stone he's already been arrested and charged scenes. Do you think it's a crime to solicit for stolen material to use in a political campaign?

[Walt]

When the call goes out, see how many answer it.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/28/public-invited-funeral-air-force-veteran/

[scenes]

"Do you think it's a crime to solicit for stolen material to use in a political campaign?"

That wasn't my question, which was an honest one.

As to your question, since you never have answers, I'm not entirely sure.

If it is illegal, every campaign since G. Washington had operatives who should have been charged.

Is it illegal for a contractor for a political campaign to read Wikileaks? Is it illegal for reporters, or people who pretend to be, to look at information gotten through sketchy means? Should you go to jail?

I do so love this situation since the 'crime' was to expose dirty dealings within the Blue Mob. Hell, I'd put money in a Gofundme just to pay the Russians, or some other hackers, to expose people like Clinton. It's money well spent.

Now, back to the Ann Coulter doll. It needs a little lovin'.

[George Rebane]

scenes 203pm - an excellent follow-on question Mr scenes, especially given the Mueller indictments and the history of his investigation.

PaulE 227pm - we've circled this barn many times since the summer of 2016. The general answer for that is NO, as long as the solicitor was not involved in the crime, the existence of the materials is publicly known, their current repositor has not been convicted of any related crime, and their transmission does not deplete the source. Were the answer YES, then no journalist would be able to cite 'deep throat' type information from confidential sources who clearly stole or obtained their information unlawfully. Using that kind of illegally obtained information is an everyday occurrence in our society. It should be doubly so for information, especially of the pejorative kind, that relates to candidates seeking to hide it from voters.

[Don Bessee]

Going out with a whimper, 8 mins a ago -

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The probe of possible Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. election, led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, is wrapping up, Acting U.S. Attorney General Matthew Whitaker told reporters on Monday.

"I've been fully briefed on the investigation and I look forward to Director Mueller delivering the final report," he said at a press conference on U.S. charges against China's Huawei Technologies Co Ltd. "Right now the investigation is I think close to being completed and I hope that we can get the report from Director Mueller as soon as possible."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mueller-probe-close-being-completed-acting-u-attorney-222315409.html

;-)

[Walt]

Looks like the judge ain't buying what Muller is selling.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/28/paul-manafort-sentencing-in-virginia-postponed-indefinitely/
"Last Friday, a federal judge said she would hold a hearing behind closed doors to determine whether Manafort intentionally lied to investigators, including about sharing polling data with a business associate the U.S. says has ties to Russian intelligence."

"the judge said that she isn’t yet convinced, and her decision will impact how much time he gets behind bars. Jackson said some of Manafort’s arguments, particularly the idea that some defendants misstate facts and then correct them later on “have some force.” “Investigators shouldn’t have to pull teeth” to get the truth,” the judge said, adding that “not all the issues rise to the level of actual false statements.” "

[Bill Tozer]

Wikileaks. Everybody, but everybody was trying to figure out and get a heads up what WikiLeaks (Julian Assange) was going to release next. CNN, NYT, that birther Jerome Corsi and everybody was guessing and digging and try to find out what Assange had and what was he going to do next? Timing, any dirt? Seth Richards? Whether it is illegal to try to find out and see the goods by the press, no. By Jerome Corsi? Roger Stone? Trump? The sixty dollar question. I dunno.

What is important is if they got anything from Assange. Looks like Roger didn’t know anything before the dumps, and then we all knew the same thing. Some D campaign staffers called Bill Richards “Taco Bowl” and normal backroom chatter. Candid, embarrassing, but not that much about Hillary all in all. A few insights. Tabloid Heaven.
Lest we forget, not one e-mail or exchange was authored by Hillary.

Assange says he was not working with they Russians. Believe him or don’t.

Rumors were flying and Jerome Corsi was the biggest rumor hounddog around. And Roger lives for of that kind of stuff.
This is what Meller’s boyz are after. Corsi figures it out, put it together, and figures that Assange has some stuff and would be making drops in October 2016. How did he know? How could he put it together and figured out where the e-mails were and that WikiLeaks would be dumping something as an October “bombshell” surprise. That is what they are looking for.

As far as obstruction of justice and witness tampering and perjury, they will do what they do.
Roger does bring up a sorely needed point to be discussed.
The perjury charges the FBI and Justice Department nabs folks on sez: 1) it must knowingly and, just as important, it must be Material to the crime/case. Saying errorously that Joe Blow first told you and discussed a plan he hatched to you sometime in the last week in March when it was the first week in April is not Material to the crime. Saying knowingly you and Joe Blow did NOT talk about his plan is Material to the case and perjury.
For far too long the FBI and Justice have tripped up folks and charged them for perjury for minor mischaracterizations as practice that seems like it’s been going on forever. Rog will challenge his perjury chargers on the Material requirement.

Roger’s defense is simple. Everybody under the sun has been screaming for years, “Don’t listen to Stone, you can’t believe a word he says!” Roger’s defense will be “See, I have 1,0000s of pieces of evidence of everybody saying “you can’t believe anything I said. And these stupid G-Men clowns did? I call for a immediate dismissal of charges, your honor.”

[fish]

Yeah……at the bottom of the passage……"prissy"……who does that sound like?

"I grew up in a far-left college town, and I’ve known so many young people who were free spirits, who were nonconformists, who were determined to be themselves no matter what anyone else said, who had a passion for noisy music and experimental art, who listened to the color of their dreams . . . And back then, it didn’t seem incongruous that they were mostly on the left. Today, I see so many people on the left sternly admonishing a 16-year-old for having the wrong smile in the wrong place at the wrong time. That’s a prissy attitude which seems like the antithesis of so many lefties I’ve known."

Indeed……todays lefty it seems is a delicate hothouse flower. Forever whining about……well everything!

sigh……the left used to have an edge about them that while not justifying their stupid politics made many of them interesting. I've heard that many were decent drinking companions!

Think Christopher Hitchens.

https://jaltcoh.blogspot.com/2019/01/why-im-still-talking-about-covington.html

[Russ]

If you did not watch Life Liberty and Levin on Fox News Sunday night, I suggest you take a look at this YouTube link. Mark and his guest examine the background of Muller's lead prosecutor who is known for bending the law and setting purgery traps to get convictions.

https://youtu.be/r1AeCxnaMCE

Scary, scary how out government treats citizens that are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. Companies and individuals destroyed by charges that were overturned by higher courts.

[Bill Tozer]

Russ,
Oh boy. Levin is on a roll right now on the transistor radio. It’s his best. Kamala’s speech broken down. Has me rolling, has me crying. Just said all the Far Left candidates look like a [group photo] of The Politburo. :)

[Don Bessee]

Of course they did -

A whistleblower has accused an English fire brigade of setting entry test pass marks significantly higher for white men than for women and ethnic minorities in order to meet diversity quotas.
West Midlands Fire Service requires white men to achieve 70 percent in a verbal, numerical, and mechanical reasoning test before they can progress to an evaluation of their physical fitness, while female candidates, black candidates, candidates with Asian roots, and other ethnic minorities only need to make 60 percent, an anonymous source who spoke to the Daily Mail claims.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/01/28/whistleblower-fire-brigade-setting-pass-mark-10-higher-white-men/

;-)

[Don Bessee]

Planned strategic leak to pressure?

Bolton was holding the legal pad in full view of the White House press corps while he and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin announced the imposition of sanctions on Venezuela's state-owned oil company PDVSA, a move aimed at increasing the pressure on President Nicolas Maduro to step aside in favor of the opposition leader of the country's National Assembly, Juan Guaido.

National Security Adviser John Bolton may have inadvertently revealed a potential next move by the Trump administration in the Venezuela crisis Monday when photographers captured a note on a legal pad that read: "5,000 troops to Colombia."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/john-boltons-written-note-on-troops-to-colombia-raises-eyebrows

;-)

[MMM]

,,,apology accepted BillyT,,,you guys really need to work on the ad hominems though,,,I mean really,,,George just mentioned this just yesterday in his 'The Real Issues That Divides Us' piece, "(although I cringe whenever ‘one of ours’ can’t keep it together and goes for tit-for-tat ad hominems.)"

Here is a little blast from the past for you anyway,

https://www.theunion.com/news/local-news/star-wars-viewer-cited/

I have watched several episodes of Murder Mountain. It is an interesting look at the history of the birth? of our modern homegrown MJ industry in general. The series is also tied to the criminal aspect of growing outlaw MJ and focuses on one San Diego surfer dude who moves up to Humboldt to grow pot and then disappears.

[Bill Tozer]

MEGA hat fall out. Are we safe? Question of the day.

Would you let your 79 year old father, husband, neighbor, friend, or weekend houseguest friend put on a MEGA hat and venture out into big wide world? To the market? Take a leisurely window shopping stroll up Broad Street, Spring, or Commerical Street in the Artist Colony? Would you let the elders wear their MEGA hats in public if your cared about them?
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Stone:
https://m.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10156165585910914/?type=3&source=48

[Don Bessee]

Golly gee wilakers a nice massacre would come in handy said the ghoulish fakenewsman -

The Atlantic’s Dick Polman believes the Democrat Party needs a “new massacre” to make gun control “a first-tier story.”
On January 27, 2019, Polman, an
Atlantic contributor, noted that the Democrats took control of the House with plans to push gun control. And less than a week after taking control, they followed through by introducing a bill to criminalize private gun sales.

But Polman notes that the gun control bill did not garner major airplay in the establishment media, leading him to suggest a “new massacre” will be key in getting the push more attention. He wrote: “The Democrats’ championing of gun reform is not currently a first-tier story, but a new massacre would likely make it so.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/28/the-atlantics-dick-polman-democrats-need-a-new-massacre-to-make-gun-control-push-a-first-tier-story/

;-)

[Bill Tozer]

Oh, the drama.
@ 5:16 pm
Teacher, teacher, I declare, I see.........

“Keachie, in turn, said the police and Del Oro employees came at him “like stormtroopers,” the evil henchmen of the earlier “Star Wars” movies.

Keachie’s arrest comes at a critical time for the movie-making industry. Just last month, President George W. Bush..........”

Stormtroopers! Bush 43! Jack booted goose steppers! BDS! Or.....a citizens’ arrest by your fellow concerned citizens and caring neighbors, lol.

Confession is good for the soul. You may leave in peace, grasshopper.

Well, look at the bright side. At least your New Democrat William Jefferson Clinton never seperated children. Remember Waco? Talk about revenge politics.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10161259004620526&set=gm.617711298683984&type=3&theater&ifg=1
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I smell a cat fight. When mama ain’t happy, ain’t no one going to be happy.

https://bongino.com/border-patrol-wives-issue-scathing-letter-to-pelosi-invite-her-to-tour-border/?fbclid=IwAR2K1cDtSFe5TJV1KiNK6cpGUvZRUzBJUUDJ2luaJrm2_rY-hUcdemyqtzw

[Don Bessee]

Bug or built in back door?

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/28/apple-facetime-bug-lets-you-listen-even-if-someone-doesnt-answer.html?__source=yahoo%7Cfinance%7Cheadline%7Cstory%7C&par=yahoo&yptr=yahoo

;-)

[Kelly]

Murder Mountain. As a local USFS seasonal firefighter at the time, I know it well. Murder Mountain was actually Pratt Peak across the valley from Alder Point. A homesteader and VERY small time pot grower (3 plants??) was shot in the back by an FBI agent in 1973. It was officially the first death in the war on drugs. The victim was found innocent and un armed posthumously but the FBI agent was not prosecuted. It was named Murder Mountain by the locals at the time, but the name was conveniently white washed by the Feds when the Carlson's started their killing spree on Alder Point.

[Robert Cross]

George: 1:28

to the question: how do you prove 'the promise of pardon'? simple.. just like any other court proceeding, witnesses testify under oath and a jury decides who to believe or not believe. it has nothing to do with progressive opinion.

2:48. "confidential sources who clearly stole or obtained their information unlawfully." Most whistle blowers obtain their evidence via surreptitious methods. Where do whistle blowers fit into this definition? Does "stealing" evidence overshadow the event(s) that have been exposed?

[Paul Emery]

So George I'm sure you agree buying stolen property is a crime if the buyer knows it's stolen property. So if there was some kind of trade in kind for the use of the stolen emails and knowledge that the emails were stolen wouldn't that be illegal?

[George Rebane]

PaulE 638pm - You didn't read my 248pm. Discuss how journalists obtain and use stolen property for their own benefit.

RobertC 622pm - I would submit that you've been watching too many Perry Mason reruns. If it's a he said/she said, no prosecutor would bring the case to trial. And you can bet the ranch that any 'promise to pardon' would be the most surreptitious conversation the President would have. In any case, from your mouth to God's ear.

[Todd Juvinall]

Stolen property? Can you give us a link to the law that says hacking emails from a open, illegal server is a crime?

[Robert Cross]

George -- I actually knew Perry (Ray) himself.. he lived next door to my aunt in Malibu . No one thought that living with his "nephew" was at all strange. But I digress and you ignore in your "he said/she said" scenario the issue of credibility of the witness. The job of a jury is to determine which witnesses have more credibllity and which of competing versions of the events to put the most trust in. Given past performance, any 'he said/she said' scenario will not favor trump, that is for sure, as his outright lies and misrepresentations of truth have surpassed the 8,000 documented instances since taking office. So why wouldn't a prosecutor go after a proven liar?

What about the whistle blower question?

[Paul Emery]

So George it appears you have no problem George if Trumps campaign knowing arranged to obtain stolen private emails and use them for his campaign.

Todd

The emails stolen from the DNC were not illegal, they were private property. What gives you the impression they were.

[Bill Tozer]

6:51 pm

Let’s not convolute the issue here, Nothing to do with Hillary’s private illegal server or the missing 35,000 e-mails. Everything to do with copies the DNC’s e-mails and John ‘My Password is PASSWORD’ it’s Podesta’s (a private citizen) e-mails. The DNC is a private entity, no government e-mails involved. Campaign stuff got to WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks made them public. WikiLeaks is not a foreign government. Maybe a foreign actor. Lots of foreign actors in Hillary’s private server.....when she worked at State. Apples and oranges.

Todd, that’s was the Podesta work station computer and the DNC servers that the aggrieved parties REFUSED to let the FBI do an forensic analysis of. Assessment means best educated guess with the info the G-Men have, not that it is fact.

Personally, after reading stuff from forensic accountants and forensic computer dudes, I believe that the sheer volume of the “hacked” e-mails in a quick manner would require a using a USB stick downloading that much that quickly. We will never know if it was a download from the inside or not. Nor, at this moment, do we know how the volume of e-mails got to Assange. Maybe Pamela Anderson snuck the the stick in her organic vegatarian ‘homemade with love’ food she brought Julian. Like sneaking the hacksaw blade in the cake delivered to an inmate. :).

Dunno. Do know the last week or so of the race to the White House they pulled the plug on WikiLeaks and all the Dems were sounding the alarm that if anything is released the last week of the campaign, Don’t Believe It! It’s fake! About the same time, RT Britain was told their broadcast license would not be renewed and no violations or reasons cited. Hmmm.

It was funny seeing Donna Braille running around telling people that if they read the e-mails from a sheets of paper with the printed copies on it, a virus would jump off the page and infect ya. And after Seth Richards got whacked, she was afraid she was next and had to cover her home’s windows, pull down all the blinds, stay clear from all windows and sleep on her belly under the bed, lol. Ok, that last part about the bed was fake. :).

[Don Bessee]

Willful conspiratorial violation of federal Freedom of Information rules is a federal crime @725 on many levels.

;-)

[Paul Emery]

Don

Freedom of Information applis to specific PUBLIC documents not the contents of a private server. Have you ever used the FOI process to obtain documents? I have and you have to be very specific as to what you want. Certainly you cannot have access to an entire hard drive. Can you show me the specific FOI request you are referring to?

[Todd Juvinall]

Paul Emery
Whoever hacked the emails may be liable if there is a statute for it. Can you supply the link to that law or not. And if a third party then receives them I would like to see your law that says that is a crime.

[Paul Emery]

Don

More on the FOIA from their website

"The FOIA applies only to federal agencies and does not create a right of access to records held by Congress, the courts, or by state or local government agencies.

The FOIA does not require agencies to do research for you, answer written questions, or in any other way create records (such as lists or statistics) in order to respond to a request."

https://foia.state.gov/Learn/FOIA.aspx

[Paul Emery]

Todd

If I hacked into your email and gave or sold them to someone who used them to profit in some way from their public distributi0on would you consider that a violation of the law by both parties?

[Todd Juvinall]

Paul Emery maybe, but please supply the laws broken on your allegations or you are just blowing smoke.

[Paul Emery]

I'll let you do that Todd. They exist and it's your task to prove me wrong. Let me know what you come up with.

[Todd Juvinall]

OK then we see Paul Emery is just spreading leftwing propaganda. Making bogus claims with no proof. And you call yourself a "newsman"? Pathetic but not unexpected. We all have you pegged as a blowhard.

[Paul Emery]

So Todd you think it's legal if I stole your emails. If I found a hacker that could do that you'd have no problem right?

[Paul Emery]

Come to think of it it would be fun to spread around copies of your correspondence on the dating services you like to use. No problem with that from you Todd.

[Bill Tozer]

You never get a second chance to make a first impression..

Must confess, I did love the timing of the first dump. Surprise, surprise. Nancy walks right into the fireworks. What a way to start a National Convention...with love and unity. And nary a word about it in the article. Can’t keep that one a secret.
Probably just about the time CNN and ABC and the popinjays were screaming at the screen, “Don’t read them! It’s against the law to read them! Don’t download them. Illegal, don’t do it! Do Not read them.”
Boy, that sent us all racing to read them. Loved it when Trump referenced them. Sweet. They are still pissed at that one. Smoked them bastards out. Let’s do it again!

“With two of her grandchildren at her side, Pelosi said she’d met with plenty of Sanders supporters who were pleased that their demands had been accommodated in the platform.

Others, she implied, don’t realize how well they had it.”

https://www.rollcall.com/politics/california-delegates-boo-speakers-convention-breakfast

Gee, that was kinda creepy, Beaver. :)

[Don Bessee]

You mean like political campaigns cybersquatting oh great pony tail of ignorance?

;-)

[fish]

I heard someone say once something to the effect……."every socialist, every would be commissar imagines themselves sitting atop a pile of human skulls……humanity is now perfect".

“If they’ll ice a kid for not having the right grin, they’ll waste you or me in a heartbeat. Murder is, after all, how leftists roll. The USSR, Red China, Cambodia, North Korea, Cuba – that cadaver-strewn litany teaches what’s lurking at the bottom of the slope we’re sliding down. The Dems are spooning with socialism, and the goal of socialism is written in blood on the pages of history. The unapproved must be liquidated, and they are making no secret that you are unapproved. Understand that and accept it.”

https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2019/01/28/what-will-it-take-to-make-you-understand-and-accept-that-they-hate-you-n2540309

[Todd Juvinall]

Paul Emery show me the laws you say exist about hacking and I will certainly pat you on the back. But so far all you do is bloviate propaganda. As far as my dating service? Well maybe that would get you excited so go for it. I am very popular and have so much fun you would pro=bably explode trying to keep up.

[Don Bessee]

Ya think?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/28/axelrod-kamalas-oakland-base-not-a-natural-fit-for-the-heartland/

;-)

[fish]

…..and if I had been reading a bit more carefully I would have seen what Don offered upthread.

"The Atlantic’s Dick Polman believes the Democrat Party needs a “new massacre” to make gun control “a first-tier story.”

On January 27, 2019, Polman, an Atlantic contributor, noted that the Democrats took control of the House with plans to push gun control. And less than a week after taking control, they followed through by introducing a bill to criminalize private gun sales.

But Polman notes that the gun control bill did not garner major airplay in the establishment media, leading him to suggest a “new massacre” will be key in getting the push more attention. He wrote: “The Democrats’ championing of gun reform is not currently a first-tier story, but a new massacre would likely make it so.”

Wonder if Dick is ready to take one for the team…..post on line where his children (assuming he has any) attend school. C'mon Dick…the "Personal is Political"…..time for you to earn your stripes!

[Paul Emery]

Todd

I'm signing off to avoid further embarrassing you.

[Tricky McClean]

I love the smell of orange jumpsuits in the morning!

[Codswallop]

I love the smell of orange jumpsuits in the morning!

I figured you had the stink of "hot prison love" about you……...

[Bill Tozer]

Ah, the moment your realize they will never stop hating us is like a lost of innocence. Painful, but it will be ok......
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Leaks: looks like all the hate and vitriol preceded the first WikiLeaks dump. They were fired up already. Article does not even mention the e-mails tell the very bottom. Not much of an influence, all in all.
http://time.com/4422889/democratic-convention-protests-opening/
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@9:12 pM
I think the Dems took the House in 2018 primarily on the backs of the more moderate (least Crazy) Democrats in district races than any taking of seats by the far-left crazies. Hopefully, Harris will be far left enough. The wackier, the better. That’s what I think.

[Bill Tozer]

Codswallow. That be chained heat. Sizzling.

I liked her better in The Exorcist

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7YZOEt2tfpE

[Todd Juvinall]

Looks like I put Paul Emery's propaganda in a box and he vamoosed afraid he was caught. Makes my day.

[Todd Swallows]

Holy crap! That's Todd's face tattooed on Roger Stone's back! I knew it looked familiar and then Todd brought up his dating service "explosion" and everything clicked.

[BillTozer]

I agree with an earlier link today. Maybe we shouldn’t walk away from the Covington story or sweep it under the carpet just yet....

America has reached an inflection point. In a nation built on individual liberty and God-given rights, leftists have decided they should be the sole arbiters of what is or isn’t acceptable in modern society. With relentless help from the rank propagandists who have killed journalism, they have determined that anything that doesn’t comport with progressive dogma is not only wrong, but evil. Evil that can be completely dismissed at best — or eliminated, possibly violently, at worst. The current focus of their unrestrained rage is a red baseball cap with Donald Trump’s campaign slogan, “Make America Great Again,” printed on the front.

Who’s hurting whom? In addition to Joseph, a quick search using the words “people attacked for wearing MAGA hats” yields a number of equally contemptible instances of people being harassed or assaulted, including a trans activist assaulted in Hollywood, a Brooklyn man attacked with a broken bottle in a Manhattan bar, a Texas teen assaulted at a Whataburger in San Antonio, and an Arizona man who had his ankle broken in a Tucson encounter.......

Sadly, nothing is new here. The collective demonization that inexorably reduces groups of people to sub-human status enabled the guillotines of the French Revolution, the gas chambers of the Nazis, and the gulags, torture chambers, and mass starvation and mass executions that took place in the Soviet Union and Communist China.

For far too many leftists, the MAGA hat provides a springboard for rationalizing similar sub-humanization.

https://patriotpost.us/articles/60798-first-they-came-for-maga-hats-dot-dot-dot?fbclid=IwAR2pNQdY-CNafYU8Yc3q28kgP9hHMn7VnZaM2Wicb5oqhNzpgyeedR33KF8

Ironically, the children bought their Mega hats at a vendor after the March as they were heading over to the meeting place to lad up and take a hat 10 hour bus ride home.....ah, it makes no matter when or where they bought those MEGA hats. The crime is they had those hats and wore them in public.

[George Rebane]

BillT 1220am - this would be good under ‘The Real Issue ...’ Mr Tozer.

[MMM]

,,,BillyT,,,are MAGAs the new N-words?

[MMM]

,,,Are MAGAs the new ‘’’gays’’’???

[Todd Juvinall]

Looks like I attracted another troll here. You libs are just a hoot!

[Bill Tozer]

,,,Are MAGAs the new ‘’’gays’’’???

Are the Democrats the new heterophobes? Poor Howard Shultz

[Gregory]

Howard Shultz is the new Ross Perot.

[George Rebane]

Also see Ruminations update.

[Todd Juvinall]

Trump up 25 points over Nancy Pelosi today.

[Bill Tozer]

@7:56

I read this BEFOE Howard’s rude welcoming yesterday at a Barnes and Nobel, of all places. If there remains any doubt about media bias and joining at the hip with the Leftinistas, one need only to put Orange Man out of mind and look how they were reaching aroused lisssull climax reporting on the evisceration of Howard Shultz. I thought 2016 would be the moment for a 3rd Party gain traction, but it was not to be...in the traditional sense of the meaning.

“However, I sense that we’re approaching the time when an independent or third party candidate will be a strong force in a presidential election. The GOP isn’t likely to become less conservative and the Democrats aren’t likely to stop moving leftward. Thus, the space for someone claiming to be a sensible centrist will keep growing. In bad economic times, and we’re bound to have some, that space will be all the larger.

The last time a third candidate made a substantial run for president was 1992, fairly bad economic times or so it was said. In that election, the GOP candidate was a “kinder, gentler” conservative and the Democratic candidate ran as a “new Democrat,” not wedded to the party’s liberal past. Thus, the space for Ross Perot’s centrist candidacy was not huge. Nonetheless, he did fairly well.

With the centrist space widening by the day, I don’t see why a latter day Perot couldn’t mount a serious challenge for the presidency. But I don’t think it will happen in 2020.”

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/01/a-howard-schultz-independent-run-for-president.php

[Todd Juvinall]

Hey BillT, your new gal (lol) might get a primary challenge. She is pretty cute but what a dolt she is.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/427364-some-dems-float-idea-of-primary-challenge-for-ocasio-cortez

Those deep state democrats can't hack her.

[Billl Tozer]

The arts are so uplifting. Listen to the (liberal) children.

https://www.facebook.com/1075579372604366/videos/336659250510257/UzpfSTExODg1NTQ4MTQ6NjE4MTcxNTExOTcxMjk2/
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Yo Todd @ 8:42 pm @ 8:42 am. My New Gal has already effected real change.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10217915877759397&set=gm.617836548671459&type=3&theater&ifg=1

[Bill Tozer]

Midwesterners for Global Warming.

https://bongino.com/trump-begs-global-warming-to-come-back-fast-as-polar-vortex-slams-midwest/?fbclid=IwAR0Uh3zcylM7URmwNvBztDI50M-PQ9RABcqFRfwzu0u_wnqe3Ee10Eg7gds

[Don Bessee]

While the article makes it sound like a mystery its obvious why a 24 hour location would have problems after the virtue signaling bathroom policy by starbucks -

Handlrey believes one contributing factor might be a reduction in Bay Area residents living outside San Francisco who used to come into the city for a show, to eat at a restaurant and to shop. The city's issue with people living on the streets and traffic have contributed to this decline, he says.
"Now it's a hassle to get into the center of the city with the changes in streets, the reductions in lanes," he says. "And the people who get off at the Powell Street BART station...and the homeless issue."

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/24-hour-Starbucks-San-Francisco-Union-Square-close-13559579.php

;-)

[Paul Emery]

Todd, what poll do you cite in your 8:16 ?

[Todd Juvinall]

Your favorite

[Bill Tozer]

Crisis of lawlessness. No, it not Roger Stone.

In one large group of 247 people, 50 of them had to be taken to the hospital, requiring nearly every available agent to leave the field to tag along.

“Smugglers and traffickers then use these large groups as ‘cover’ while USBP resources are utilized to arrest and [for] detention-related duties associated with the large groups,” U.S. Customs and Border Protection said.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jan/24/cartels-use-groups-sick-migrants-distract-agents/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S9nqREcW9UM&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR21PmoZMyJld9w62Z-gieYBpp4cXiBE1AP8Y22igawky324wTWF5mz0H-E

https://www.kvia.com/news/border/bp-detains-2nd-large-migrant-group-1st-group-used-as-distraction-to-smuggle-drugs-into-us/980887840

[Billl Tozer]

Quotes from the early start to silly season.

Friendly fire: “Elizabeth Warren wants a ‘wealth tax.’ It might backfire.” —Washington Post editorial

Observations: “The left thin[k]s everything is about identity politics, so they falsely claim [Republicans] don’t like [Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez] because she is a ‘female, millennial, working-class Latina.’ That’s a terrible analysis. I don’t like her because she’s a liberal, anti-Israel socialist who supports a 70% tax rate.” —Ari Fleischer (“I have often wondered whether the left’s identity politics shaming is grounded in their abject ignorance of what conservatives actually believe or their just raw, cynical politics.” —David Limbaugh)

Food for thought: “Think of all the stupid, useless books you were made to read in school. Then consider that you explicitly were not made to read the most influential book in the history of the world. What reasonable person could possibly oppose Bible literacy?” —Michael Knowles

Braying Jackass: “The Catholic Church doesn’t believe in a woman’s right to choose.” —NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo defending his state’s ghoulish abortion law (No, the Catholic Church believes in the right to life.)

Alpha Jackass: “[Trump] betrayed our country and I don’t say that lightly.” —Rep. Eric Swalwell

Non sequitur: “You can be in favor of the Second Amendment and also understand that there is no reason in a civil society that we have assault weapons around communities that can kill babies and police officers.” —abortion advocate Kamala Harris

Hot air: “I support a Green New Deal. Climate change is an existential threat to all of us, and we have got to deal with the reality of it.” —Kamala Harris

What? “We are literally as a world on a collision course with time.” —former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz warning about climate change

Non Compos Mentis: “The least sexy part of socialism is effective, efficient bureaucratic administration but the project lives or dies based on it.” —MSNBC’s Chris Hayes (“I think the least sexy part is the death toll and complete stripping of individual rights. But that’s just a matter of different taste, I guess.” —David Harsanyi)

And last… “Kamala Harris apparently got a head start on her career by having sex with a married man. She’s a champion for women — except the woman whose husband she slept with. Seems like rather a conspicuous caveat.” —Matt Walsh

[Bill Tozer]

Class warfare?

Last week, I noted that Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren had suggested a new program of confiscating the assets of wealthy Americans on an annual schedule, a “wealth tax” with no constitutional basis and very little to recommend it economically. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has recommended a confiscatory income tax. Progressives have taken to describing the class of people they hate in eliminationist terms: Representative Ocasio-Cortez insists that it is “immoral” for “billionaires to exist.” Two influential progressive economic thinkers, Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman, have written that one of the benefits of confiscatory taxes is that they would cause the class of high-income Americans to “largely disappear.” Marshall Steinbaum, the research director of the progressive Roosevelt Institute, wrote: “It’s increasingly clear that having wealthy people around is a luxury our society can no longer afford.”

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/economic-inequality-helps-drive-growth/

[Bill Tozer]

Why can’t we just work together?

https://www.facebook.com/DSouzaDinesh/videos/270828133631285/UzpfSTExODg1NTQ4MTQ6NjE3ODkyNTgxOTk5MTg5/

[Don Bessee]

The socialist international comes to the rescue -

Scripps College in Claremont, California, hosted an event on Monday, featuring speakers who defended the dictator of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro, in an attempt to impress students with a positive view of the socialist regime.

The college hosted two speakers who defended socialist dictator Nicolas Maduro, and who also scrutinized the idea of foreign countries intervening in Venezuela’s humanitarian crisis, according to The Claremont Independent.

The event, entitled, “Venezuela is Irrevocably Free,” featured Akinyele Umoja and Jeanette Charles, who used their speaking opportunity to celebrate the endurance of the socialist dictator, whose forces have killed thousands of his nation’s citizens.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/01/29/scripps-college-hosts-event-defending-venezuelas-dictator-maduro/

;-)

[Don Bessee]

So it begins comrade -

A draft of a new committee rules package expected to be approved this week would strike the phrase, “So help me God,” from the oath witnesses take when they testify before the House Committee on Natural Resources.

Fox News says it received an exclusive copy of the committee’s draft that places the phrase in red brackets, a sign the words are slated to be eliminated.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/29/house-democrats-to-strike-so-help-me-god-from-oath/

;-)

[Paul Emery]

Todd

Can you give me the specific name Todd. The only polls I take seriously are the RCP consensus polls and they don't have a specific polling on that topic.

[Todd Juvinall]

There you go.

[Paul Emery]

Can you point me to a direct polling comparing Trump and Pelosi if that's what you're referring to?

[Don Bessee]

Peeeewwww, it reeks of po' ol' pollhead in here!

;-)

[Todd Juvinall]

No you can go find it.

[Paul Emery]

There you go Todd. You can't even refer to a poll to support your position. No wonder you were such a loser in politics and got fired by an organization that you claim to have founded. What a joke.

[Todd Swallows]

Bessee- You have a problem with Congress upholding the No Religious Test clause of the Constitution? BTW have you checked out your name brand reefer in the marijuana store?

[MMM]

,,,Paul,,, I think I found the poll that Todd was referring to,,,Is this it Todd??? These are the same pollsters you use to determine your popularity also I think.

'''Trump Surges Ahead of Clinton in Poll Conducted by His Brain'''

[MMM]

,,,Trump v Pelosi,,,

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/poll-voters-trust-pelosi-over-trump/

[MMM]

,,,good fun,,,

https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2018/11/20/7429973380389095274/1024x576_MP4_7429973380389095274.mp4

[Don Bessee]

Still investing in that rancid Russian dressing oh great pony tail of ignorance?

The main takeaway from informal presidential adviser Roger Stone’s arraignment Tuesday is that the Russian collusion narrative has collapsed. If there were anything there, we’d know about it by now.

Stone was hauled in to federal court Friday morning after a theatrical, televised arrest that should be the subject of a Justice Department investigation or congressional inquiry. Why the excessive threat of force? Though CNN denies it, many still wonder whether the network was tipped off. The extreme intimidation tactic might have been intended to send a message, but it only tended to confirm the biases of those who see special counsel Robert Mueller's entire effort as a rogue operation.

The “process crimes” Stone is charged with, such as lying and witness tampering, are potentially serious. But he was not charged with facilitating Trump campaign collusion with Russian hackers, and the indictment itself gives little reason to believe there ever were any.

It was certainly not a crime for the Trump campaign to be interested in what WikiLeaks had on Hillary Clinton or other Democrats. WikiLeaks had established itself as a reliable — though notorious — source for purloined information. Weeks before WikiLeaks published the emails, Democrats had made public that their computer systems had been hacked, allegedly by Russian operatives, though WikiLeaks has denied that Moscow was its source.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/01/29/roger-stone-not-guilty-plea-donald-trump-russian-collusion-bail-column/2710177002/

;-)

[Don Bessee]

@445 'BTW have you checked out your name brand reefer in the marijuana store?'

Which store?

;-)

[Todd Swallows]

Bessee 4:57-

Fair enough!

With all the legal MJ businesses popping up, despite predictions and well funded efforts from a well known prohibitionist, it can be hard to keep up. The Elevation "adult use" MJ store in Nevada City has (or at least has had) Bessee blunts named in your honor. I hear children all over the county are getting hooked and committing outlandish crimes to feed their new fangled marijuana habit.

[Walt]

No Dougy,, The State isn't happy with the dopers. They are NOT buying "legal" weed in the "stores". So their grand plan is to reduce the tax. Good luck with that.
Yes, some are. But most are still getting the good old fashioned way. Down on Weedman St.
There is so much weed, it's being given away. (well,, maybe not to you)