Sandbox - 6feb19

[Our leftwing commenters keep reporting that all of our border problems are nothing but rightwing propaganda, so why have the national news been reporting illegal entry numbers surging, caravans at the border trying to get in, and more caravans on the way from central America?  And how come Dems keep saying that walls don't work, and the border security authorities keep testifying and presenting data that they do?  gjr]

Comments

[Todd Juvinall]

WOW left for a day and my goodness the trolls of the left just yapping away on things they have no clue about. Very humorous. Had a great date last night and we attended Valentine's Day dinner of the Native Sons. We gathered lots of money for cleft palate. NUHS choir was our entertainment. Saw all kinds of local folks and many politicians. Great night.

As I am writing this the wall looks like it might get built with a National Emergency. I say good, Trump will hopefully reject the "deal" from the Congress.

DOW up 339 so the investors are happy.

And I see the last election still being beaten to death by the KVMR guy that can't stand Trump at 52% up. Give it up and sleep better.

[Bocephus]

,,,Trumpki quotes Hillary in El Paso!!!

Stronger Together chants trumpski,,,

https://www.amazon.com/Stronger-Together-Hillary-Rodham-Clinton-ebook/dp/B01JMECLZQ

Get your copy today!!!

[Walt]

Dougy has a new sock to stain.
You going to excuse the Muslim anti Semite KKKeackie?

[Bocephus]

,,,ToddJ,,,Men are from Mars so I assume you will want to book a flight ASAP!!!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-says-ll-soon-112300785.html

[Bocephus]

,,,;Mz. Muslim sounds a lot like your man lover Trumpski Altered Walter!!!

[Walt]

Dougy.. You DO realize "bocephus" means "dickhead" in Viking...
Good choice.

[Todd Swallows]

Holy guacamole!! The Dow is almost up to where it was 10 days ago! Beers all around!! Nothing like a 78 year old man, taking a hot date to a high school chorus to drum up those hormones. Sounds rather perv - must imagine you were under surveillance by the parents. I bet it was free though. Unlike LaMalfa's autograph.

[George Rebane]

Re the above 'conversation' thread - my apologies to the casual reader.

[Walt]

The way "fluffer" is yapping about LaMalfa, one would think it's Emery in drag.

[Todd Juvinall]

You should see the results of the cleft palate operations on those little kids from Central America. Heartwarming. So George the Troll TS, is he someone that you would say is a plus for this blog? It sounds like someone mad his life is really shallow and unfulfilling.

[Gregory]

gr 1014am

Keachie has been fouling the waters since he followed me here... this is literally nothing new.

I'd like to hear from Michael P. Anderson about what he thinks about the rumors that Mueller will not issue a report and that the Senate committee hasn't found *any* evidence for the claims of Russian involvment in the election. "A terrible waste of time".

[Bocephus]

,,,poor Walter,,,they always bail for the personal ad hominem attacks,,,so sad

[Todd Swallows]

"Those little kids from Central America". Cry me a river. You mean the ones you claim are trying to storm the border, become Democrats, and steal our good jobs from the strawberry fields?

[Walt]

Real? says the one with a fake "name". Nice try claiming that "personal". Try harder (limp)Dickhead.

[George Rebane]

re ToddS 1055am - Interesting to hear the lefties out of both sides of their mouths - Side one: the illegals only work the fields, leaving the better jobs for Americans. Side two: the illegals become entrepreneurs and talented workers in our offices and factories. There is no requirement to pick one or the other, both will do as the need arises. Why's that? Because in either case they increase the Democrat vote counts.

[Walt]

You sure know how to pick idiots as representatives.
"Democratic Sen. Bob Menendez of New Jersey attacked President Donald Trump Monday for treating illegal aliens that drive under the influence of drugs or alcohol as criminals."

That's exactly what you are. Illegal or otherwise.(unless your an elected LIB where laws just don't apply to you)
https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/12/bob-menendez-donald-trump-cnn/

[Bill Tozer]

But Trump promised to balance the budget and reduce the deficit!! He promised!

“MMT [Modern Monetary Theory] is getting some backup from mainstream economists. The incoming president of the American Economics Association, Olivier Blanchard, argued in his presidential address that the costs of public debt might have lower welfare costs than previously thought, which you can bet will be cited by the Krugmanites of the world on behalf of a massive spending spree (though Blanchard is more circumspect about extrapolating in this way).

It occurred to me recently that everything has gone wrong since Milton Friedman died in 2006”

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/02/the-laffer-curve-of-the-left.php

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RRUbwnkEPqc&list=RDRRUbwnkEPqc

[Bill Tozer]

Breaking News!!

Newsome just pulled the plug on the Brown Streak. This is not fake news. Straight from his State of the State address. Wonder what Alexandria Ocassional Cortex thinks about them apples.

[Todd Swallows]

Bill-
I applaud that move, as I do his restructuring of the Delta tunnels, though I don't quite understand how one tunnel will cost half as much as two. The best parts though was keeping Trump's 3.5 for the train and not giving it back, and of course, diverting the Guard to projects that make sense.

[Walt]

It's not Trumps money Fluffer. It's the taxpayer's. Your one of those who must believe the money belongs to politicians.

What makes you think gov. can run a railroad? Gov. could not even run a whore house and break even.

[Todd Juvinall]

Walt that Lewinski wannabee is actually jealous of Trump. Reverse psy. Trolls are like that.

[Todd Swallows]

Walt- Can't you read? I said I applaud pulling the plug on your train.

You and your whore houses and Juvinall on his Lewinski - minds of filth.

[Don Bessee]

Just another bunch of old white farts -

Sanders will be 79 years old on Election Day in 2020, and Biden will be almost 78. President Donald Trump was the oldest person ever elected to a first term in 2016 at age 70.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/poll-51-percent-of-democratic-primary-voters-prefer-elderly-white-men-who-arent-declared-candidates/

;-)

[Todd Juvinall]

The demoncrats look pretty bad with all their socialist policies. And they are old men and women. Pelosi is starting to look like Joan Rivers. Her face is so tight her teeth will pop out. AOC is just a little bartender tart who rpobably made a living on the pole. They should use her.

[Walt]

Choke it down Fluffer, The choo choo is just scaled back.Not a full plug pulling.
It's ONLY way The vary pretty Gavin can keep from paying it back
Do you forget(or ever learned) how the gov failed at running a whore house? Yet you wanted it to run health care.(and epic fail to begin with)
Even AMTRAK (the other gov. RR) runs at a loss. Yet you Proggys still look to gov. as your savior.

[Walt]

And speaking of "minds of filth",,,, Swallows,,,
Your not a bird.

[Bill Tozer]

Da Brown Streak

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tLsITHepvwQ
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Oh my. Did someone say the F word? F_ _t? Fart? Good thing I read this. I was just about to call AOC a “David Duke in a skirt”. Thank goodness I did not.

“Porterfield used the slur "f----t" during a committee meeting last Wednesday as lawmakers discussed a proposed amendment related to anti-discrimination protections for LGBT people, according to The West Virginia Gazette Mail.

He also reportedly said that “the LGBT is the most socialist group in this country" during the meeting.

He then told the Gazette Mail in an interview on Friday that “the LGBTQ is a modern day version of the Ku Klux Klan, without wearing hoods, with their antics of hate."

He also referred to the gay community as a "terrorist group" and added that he was being "persecuted" by the homosexual community because of the previous statements he made. “

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/429474-west-virginia-dems-calls-on-gop-delegate-to-resign-after-he-compared

Hmmm. The offender is blind. The offended are T’s and Q’s. Sexual orientation trumps disabled on the pecking order. Interesting, very interesting. Well, the LBGTQ community did not welcome Milo on his Fabulous Faggot Tour with open arms or nary a hint of hospitality. Did like Milo’s attempt to lead a Gay Pride Parade down the streets on a No Go Zone in Sweden. Sweden may be open minded, tolerate, and celebrates diversity, but not that tolerate nor that kind of diversity, lol. Wonder if it was because Milo is Jewish? I believe so.

[Todd Juvinall]

Watched a bit of the tiny Beto walk-a-thin and what struck me is this. Beto is an idiot. And his body language as he speaks reminds me of a spastic. But I say jump into the race Beto. making fun of you will be too easy.

[Bill Tozer]

I must say that Mitch McConnell is the most uninspiring member of the Senate who gets things done. :).

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/02/12/mitch-mcconnell-to-force-the-senate-to-vote-on-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-green-new-deal.html

Relax, it’s on a non-binding resolution of the GND. No voting “present.” Stand and be counted.

[Walt]

Not a good week to be a LIB. Bad news coming in hand over fist.
All that investigate'n and,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,nothing.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/12/us-senate-finds-no-collusion-trump-russia/
"The Senate Intelligence Committee is finishing its investigation into Russian interference during the 2016 presidential election, and neither Russian nor Democrats have found any evidence collusion.

The report cited politicians of both parties on the committee who confirmed that no collusion was uncovered after more than two years of investigating, NBC News reports. (RELATED: Stone Indictment Undercuts Trump-Russia Collusion Narrative)

Anonymous Democratic Senate investigators conceded that they are not going to be able to find evidence of direct collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian President Vladimir Putin, the report claims."

So much for your dreams of impeachment.

The way things are going, your queen of the DEMned WILL have to give money to Trump "for the wall". (Ummm,, just what was she saying a few days ago?)
She LIED to you... Better find a new Speaker.

[Walt]

Now would be a real good time for our Proggys to order up.
Avoid the rush.
https://www.amazon.com/Butt-Hurt-Balm-sensitive-snowflakes/dp/B01I6DN94Q/ref=pd_cp_193_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01I6DN94Q&pd_rd_r=d35946fe-2f16-11e9-be2f-055375b55aef&pd_rd_w=iEFL0&pd_rd_wg=m2fRm&pf_rd_p=ef4dc990-a9ca-4945-ae0b-f8d549198ed6&pf_rd_r=484ZFP5WMNKRPJC8JQZ3&psc=1&refRID=484ZFP5WMNKRPJC8JQZ3

[Bill Tozer]

What? You don’t like our food? What, you want to be released on OR? What’s the matter you? No like buscuits and gravy?

Their requests include separate housing from county inmates; improved medical, mental health and dental care; ending punitive conditions; ending of prolonged daily lockdowns; offering the same programming inmates receive; providing regular access to exercise; offering translators; addressing maintenance issues in a timely manner; addressing unsanitary conditions; providing for an independent oversight committee with unannounced visits; and following ICE guidelines for grievance procedures. Gonzalez said activists are also asking that detainees placed on administrative holds be given alternatives to detention, like ankle monitors or bail.

https://www.appeal-democrat.com/news/yuba-county-jail-immigration-detainees-declare-hunger-strike/article_ae004514-2e93-11e9-8976-678c77a0db71.html

Count your blessings, Snowflakes. They don’t build those places for comfort.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dka-Jtj7WM

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BillT@12:07

https://ktla.com/2019/02/12/gov-newsom-abandons-plan-for-high-speed-train-from-l-a-to-san-francisco-cites-cost/

lol.

Man, there has to be a lot of scrambling in Democratic property developer circles right now. That's gotta leave a mark.

I think we should send out the 420th Nevada City Volunteers with pick and shovel to finish the thing. It's God's work after all.

[scenes]

now here's a surprising surprise.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/is-empire-star-jussie-smolletts-story-falling-apart/

[scenes]

me@3:15PM

Which brings to mind an old blues tune.

I gotta hundred billion dollars, gonna build me a high speed train.
I gotta hundred billion dollars (tell the truth now), gonna build me a high speed train.
Now my baby spent all my money
I gotta drive the car again

[Bill Tozer]

Well, well, well. I see the Democrats came to the table to negotiate in good faith. That was a no brainer.

[Todd Juvinall]

Another "white privilege" screed by a "white man" filled with "white guilt" in the Union. My first response.

You are simply over thinking a fantasy. I do not have to go to jail to understand what happens in them. I do not have to light a match and burn my finger to know it will really hurt. I have a brain and read, look around, study and get eductaed. White privilege exists in your mind not mine or people I know. We are all about success and don't make excuses or feel guilt about pursuing that success. But there are white liberals who are wracked with "white guilt" that think we all must be like them. But that is your fantasy. I suggest you read Dr. Carson's book on his life, Larry Eleders, Clarence Thomas and Thomas Sowell. Perhaps you will understand that America is about success for all if the "work hard" and stop the whining. Oh and how did that paradise of the USSR work when those communists thought they had all the answers to racism.

[Walt]

They say the pen is mightier than the sward. Yup.. It can also help you cut your own throat.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/at-least-a-dozen-newspapers-drop-syndicated-cartoon-over-vulgar-anti-trump-hidden-message

Let's hope Crabby can keep his pencil in check.

[Todd Swallows]

Todd-
"study and get eductaed" What????? Have another few drinks and come back to the keyboard. Maybe take some English classes in between? Maybe 4th grade level. You couldn't pass the test to become an American citizen.

Holy cow! You are a true representative of the Rebane flock.

[Bill Tozer]

No puffery, Goopy.

[Todd Juvinall]

Linda is drunk again.

[Walt]

"Here is how the wall can be built, AND Mex pays for it.
"the United States has seized $14 billion from the former drug lord, which gave Sen. Ted Cruz a brilliant idea.

The Texas Republican introduced the Ensuring Lawful Collection of Hidden Assets to Provide Order (EL CHAPO) Act in April 2017, which calls for the use of the $14 billion seized from the cartel drug lord to be used to pay for the wall."
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/after-el-chapo-conviction-use-seized-14-billion-to-build-border-wall/

[Walt]

One of Barry's.... was a MOLE. OH how the Proggys would bust a nut if it was a Trump admin traitor.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/former-us-counterintelligence-agent-allegedly-spied-on-colleagues-to-help-out-iran-indictment-reveals

An ex-counterintelligence agent who defected to Iran in 2013 helped the Islamic Republic in "targeting her former fellow agents" and exposed a Defense Department program considered one of the crown jewels of U.S. intelligence, according to an explosive indictment unsealed Wednesday in Washington, D.C.

Monica Elfriede Witt, the former agent named in the grand jury indictment, is from Texas and entered duty with the U.S. Air Force in 1997. She separated from the military in 2008.

"It is a sad day for America when one of its citizens betrays our country," said Assistant Attorney General John Demers, the head of the Justice Department's national security division.

[George Rebane]

Walt 825am - Yes, Sen Cruz's idea has had a very one-sided play in the media. We note that the Left's lamestream has again commissioned its national cricket corps to respond to this very commendable and practical idea to use drug profits to build border security infrastructure. That means that most Americans will remain ignorant of this opportunity, until time and the ongoing rush of other political immediacies will dilute and then wash it away.

[Walt]

Well George,, the LIBS have yet to jump up and claim American drug addicts would the real "payers of the wall".
That's a lot of "medication".

[Gregory]

50% +1

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history

[Walt]

More bad news for the buzzard of Broad St. So much four your "discredited" rant.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/02/13/media-fail-polls-confirm-surging-support-for-trump/
"Polling from Politico/Morning Consult shows support for President Trump and the border wall both moved in his direction since the beginning of the month. This is a huge failure for an establishment media that has been campaigning against Trump and his wall non-stop for months."

[Todd Swallows]

George 10:17
The left has commissioned its national cricket corp. . .

Huh? Both Fox and USA Today broke the news 17 hours ago. A brief google shows it playing on every mainstream news media. Are you gaslighting your audience because you know most of them will never bother to verify your accusation? Or did you just listen to Rush and not bother to verify it yourself?

[Walt]

Good job Fluffer, attack the messenger not the message.
Non of the Proggys are really even "going there". It makes too much damned sense.

[Walt]

See if you can find it here,, Swallower.
https://www.cnn.com/
Here?
https://www.msnbc.com/
Maybe even here????
https://www.cbsnews.com/

Nice try. It's running down your chin again.

[Todd Swallows]

Walt-
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sen-ted-cruz-wants-el-chapo-pay-border-wall-n971126
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/12/politics/ted-cruz-el-chapo-act-border-wall-drug-lord/index.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ted-cruz-wants-drug-kingpin-el-chapo-to-fund-trumps-border-wall/
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watch/cruz-take-el-chapo-money-to-fund-border-wall-933352515635

etc., etc.

[Walt]

Since the wannabe porn star brought it up, Yes,
"The left has commissioned its national cricket corp"

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-there-was-no-russian-collusion-it-was-all-fake-its-negligence-on-a-stunning-scale
"We have news for you, breaking news, that for whatever reason is being downplayed or ignored by other media outlets, but we think you want to know about it. Five simple words describe it, there was no Russian collusion. There is no evidence whatsoever that the Trump campaign conspired in any way with the government of Vladimir Putin during the last presidential election."

"the conclusion of the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee. That Committee spent two years investigating this question. Of course, hundreds of interviews, reams of classified documents, untold millions in taxpayer dollars. No collusion at all. That is what we are hearing on Tuesday evening that they have found."

Let the cricket singing begin

[Walt]

Nice attempted save there. Ya gotta Google to find it?
I went to the main page! Nothing! It's buried deep where no one will really see it. Yaa.. That's LIB "reporting" for ya.
You really think Proggy news would put it out for all to see when they are fully against ANY money going for the Wall? There is enough money there to build it 5 times over. And not a dime would come from the taxpayer.
Find the story where it counts. (no one else can)

[Bill Tozer]

Illegals.

We have about 900,000 illegals awaiting to be processed right now. At this rate, the projections for next year is over a million and and 1.5 to 2 million awaiting processing in the next theee years. That is more than we can possibly handle. We just don’t have the resources. It is breaking and will bust the system. Saul Alinsky tactics, Alinsky’s wet dream.

The Dems know all this and are pushing for less ICE detention beds. Let that sink in. Once a illegal or alyssum applicant is rejected, we are supposed to deport them. That’s the law. Pushing for less beds and less detainees in detention at the very same time unable to house/detain the ones currently in processing or ordered deported.

The idea is to flood and overwhelm the system so that those applying for asylum can simply disappear into the country to live as they with fear of repercussions. 5% will show up for their hearing dates. The bigger picture is to throw the asylum seekers in with the DACAs and Tempory refugee status folks we let in on a temporary basis with all the Dreamers and their parents and give them whole lot of them amnesty.

The Dems cry out there is no crisis at the border. It’s a made up crisis, not real. Well, in a couple years, the crisis at the border and inside the US will be so undeniable that only the Enemy of the People and mentally ill could deny its existence. If will be plain to the sane and everyone else sure as the noses on their faces.
Obama called it a crisis, among other previous and current Congressional leaders and Blue Ribbon Commissions and Presidents. Suddenly, it’s not crisis.

Alinsky is alive and well.

[Bill Tozer]

Oh, I meant to say that’s just the backlog.

[Todd Swallows]

Yeah Walt-
This was a news story YESTERDAY MORNING. Where were you? It was on TV news last night and discussed on NPR this morning. FOX is either last to the trough, or they are dragging it out for hard right political purposes. Or maybe they know the average FOX viewer is very slow on the uptake.

[Bill Tozer]

Swallows
I knew about it more than 24 hours ago. I choose not to post it that minute. More important topics to touch on. Still haven’t commented on it,. yesterday morning nor yesterday afternoon, nor last night, nor this morning. This is not some AP wire newsfeed. Think the Brown Streak took precedent.

A wise man knows all he tells. A fool tells all he knows.

[Walt]

So you watched it on your "morning commute"?
If it was all that "front and center", why did I just happen to hear about it today? I'm pretty much up on "breaking news".
NPR? (never listen to it) Let me guess. it got 15 seconds like any other story.
If it's such a GREAT idea, and LIBS "say" they are all for border security, they would be jumping up and down in favor.... But they ain't.
HELL!! You haven't even come clean to back the idea.
How dare Trump get the money, and Christ will return before Trump can say "See? MEX just paid for the wall".
Nope you can't have that. Not one bit! The last thing you want is another Trump victory.
Swallow that!

[Todd Swallows]

Bill-
Tell that to Rebane 10:17 or Walt 12:19. It was well over a month ago that Cruz first mentioned the idea. In my book it wasn't big news then either.

[Walt]

Hummmm!! FOX is running the story just now.
Can't wait to hear the LIBS say "NO WAY IN HELL!"

[Todd Swallows]

Walt-
"If it was all that "front and center", why did I just happen to hear about it today? I'm pretty much up on "breaking news"."

Gee Walt, do you really want me to answer that?? Hah! Check back on the links I provided. Some of them are from noon news - Yesterday! Bill knew about it ("more than 24 hours ago"). I knew about it. Maybe NPR gave it more play than FOX?

[Walt]

The story is out now! And makes perfect sense.
Care to give the Commie response to why it's not?
Think of it as speaking on your queen's behalf.
Pelosi will have none of it.

[Walt]

I don't visit fake news sites... One feels the need to take a shower right after.

[Walt]

"Red" Cortez gets a real taste of the D.C. game.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/13/aoc-green-new-deal-democrat/

The Senate is calling for a vote on her grand scam. If it's so GREAT, lets see how many LIBS run for the hills instead of voting for it. They were "all for it" the day it rolled out.

[Todd Juvinall]

Linda is truly gagging Walt.

[Blll Tozer]

Swallows and Walt. I have been following ‘seized asset reform’ for several months to a year as it works its way through committees and yet to be introduced to Congress. Bipartisan support. Yes, there has been abuses as some assets are seized without a conviction in court or nary a trial or even charges brought. Not to say that all assets seized are not legal or valid or Constitutional, but some abuses exist as some (operative word is SOME) Sheriff Departments or local LE across the land rely on seized asset forfeitures are part of their budgets and budgeting for the next year. Thus the incentive for abuse. Anyway, Cruz has been a point man on the reforms so it makes since he introducing a narrowly tailored bill on a topic he has expertise in....as well as his expertise in Constitutional constraints and protections of rights.

Whose on first?

[George Rebane]

ToddS 1253pm - Interesting that you now ascribe FN and USA Today as leftwing lamestream outlets. And at other times you lefties consider these to be unreliable rightwing purveyors of fake news. Care to pick one, or does your logic permit you to follow Yogi's advice when encountering a fork in the road?

[Bill Tozer]

A topic I find ripe for irreparable harm and ripe for PC abuse:

“We have since moved on to the second wave, Cretella told The Federalist. “The second wave is going on now, with emergency room staff, therapists, or doctors reporting parents to Child Protective Services who refuse to affirm their child’s false gender.”

More recently, Cretella explains, she has heard from two sets of parents who were accused of being “abusive parents” for refusing to consent to hormone treatments for their teen children. In one case, the parents sought treatment for their son’s suicidal depression. Their son was adopted out of an abusive family, had a long history of depression and anxiety, had been in therapy in the past, was on medications, and never had any sign of gender dysphoria.

Nevertheless, the emergency room physician at the children’s hospital, after interviewing him alone, diagnosed him as “definitely transgender because he insists that he is and that [the parents’] lack of acceptance is causing his suicidal depression. He should be started on puberty blockers and estrogen to transition.”

This was the first time the 14-year-old boy had ever said such a thing, Cretella noted, yet from this one ER visit, his parents had to fight with the children’s hospital for months against allegations of being “abusive and unsupportive” parents. The family finally found a therapist who helped them set boundaries with their son, and his complaints of feeling trapped in the wrong body have stopped. Even with this outcome, attorneys told the parents they could not sue because experts would side with the ER physician, who was following the “standard of care” guidelines.

http://thefederalist.com/2019/02/12/lgbt-activists-teaching-judges-yank-kids-parents-wont-transgender/