George Rebane
[This is the addended transcript of my regular KVMR commentary broadcast on 13 March 2019.]
We have a special election coming up to fill the state’s Senate seat for District #1. Nevada County is in District #1 and election day is Tuesday March 26th. This special election has again raised concerns about who may and how should people be able to vote. Mr Greg Diaz, Nevada County’ s Clerk-Recorder and Registrar of Voters has stepped into the dialogue in a highly partisan manner for someone holding a non-partisan office.
He gave an unfortunate interview in the 12mar19 Union (here) in which he falsely characterized Nevada County Tea Party’s position on voting, claiming “I can't have it when someone's telling people not to vote, or not to vote their vote-by-mail ballot”, and stating that “Their true intent: is to make it more difficult for folks to vote.” These highly political charges are wrong on all counts, since the Tea Party actually supports the advice and counsel of California’s Election Integrity Project, and clearly says that on its website (here).
Greg Diaz went partisan with his statement that the NCTP wants to make voting hard for people by telling them to take their mail-in ballots to their polling place, exchange it for a paper ballot, vote, and turn it in right there. First, the NCTP has always promoted every franchised US citizen to vote in every election for which they qualify. Second, the NCTP only cites the state’s non-partisan EIP recommendation to guarantee that a vote’s chain of custody is not compromised by practices like ballot harvesting, and that the vote gets counted in a timely manner. Today, we need to be reminded of this again given the massive irregularities that came to light after last November’s election.
Ballot harvesting is a practice of implementing absentee voting by partisan harvesters showing up at your door and offering to take your ballot to the polling place, and even help you vote. This obviously breaks your ballot’s ‘chain of custody’, and opens up the process to all kinds of fraud, including not delivering the ballots as promised if the voter belongs to the wrong party. North Carolina Democrats were able to stop this practice in last fall’s election. Now Republicans in California are also voicing concern since several of their congressional district victories were overturned by the arrival of thousands of harvested Democrat ballots days after the election.
As reported in the California Political Review, “Two years ago, California Gov. Jerry Brown signed into law AB 1921, which legalized the practice known as ballot harvesting. Specifically, the law (now) allows any person to collect a vote-by-mail ballot from an eligible voter and turn in the ballot to a polling place or a registrar of voter’s office.” (here) Today Congressman Ken Calvert (R-CA) has started pursuing the legalities of ballot harvesting in preparation for new legislation. The presumed purpose of this is to counter HR-1 ‘For the People Act’, the bill that just passed the House on a party line vote. HR-1 intends to federalize voting laws and weaken safeguards to prevent voter fraud under the guise of making it easier to vote. (more here and here)
However, there is an inconsistency in how the progressives characterize ease of voting on a partisan basis. The Left has long maintained that the Right is home to the nation’s preponderance of deplorably ignorant voters, and that the Left attracts the educated Americans who primarily make up the Democrat Party. Then one cannot help but ask why it is the Left that constantly wants to weaken or eliminate processes designed to check voter fraud, while claiming Republicans want to complexify voting in order to confuse Democrat voters, and reduce their vote count. And conversely, it is the Republicans who always promote voter vetting and voting procedures to prevent voter fraud so that only franchised US citizens are encouraged and able to cast ballots. Anybody ever wonder about that?
My name is Rebane, and I also expand on this and related themes on Rebane’s Ruminations where the addended transcript of this commentary is posted with relevant links, and where such issues are debated extensively. However, my views are not necessarily shared by KVMR. Thank you for listening.
[Addendum] The Left’s position for years has been that there is no or negligible voter fraud in US elections. Why? Their position is that if there was no prosecution of a voting complaint or irregularity, then it does not count as voter fraud. This no matter if hundreds of dead or otherwise unqualified people were shown to have voted, or more people voted than were registered to vote, or any one of a number of other kinds of evidence that fraud did indeed occur. (This kind of assessment let the Obama’s AG Lynch give Hillary a pass after FBI’s Comey, who outlined a litany of her violations, recommended no prosecution for breaking national security laws and Dep State regulations in her safekeeping of confidential information and destruction of subpoenaed emails.) The proof of election fraud is complex to establish and expensive to pursue in the courts, especially by under-funded election oversight groups consisting of citizen volunteers who detect and report the frauds.
The alt-Left (now sanctified as merely ‘socialists’) today is also on record for promoting the biggest constitutional election fraud of all in their expressed desire to let everyone – citizens or not, and no matter how they got here - within our borders vote. Most certainly all resident illegals should be counted so as to up the Left’s share of House members, and therefore leverage the Democrat’s legitimate vote count.
But what I find more important in how elections are conducted and who should vote is the haphazard way we franchise US citizens to vote. It is established and clear that not all US citizens qualify to vote. Young people, felons, and the mentally incapacitated are denied the vote (and other prerogatives – purchase of guns, consumption of alcohol, driving vehicles, entering into contracts, curfew violations, … - granted to adult citizens) because of their ignorance of needed knowledge and/or their propensity to make bad decisions.
So the obvious question keeps coming up, should there be some minimum requirements a voter should satisfy in order to retain his voting franchise. The most important of these is some minimum knowledge of our country’s governance and the issues/candidates on the ballot. The prime reason we deny children the vote is their presumed lack of such knowledge and malleability. But once an individual passes a certain age (an age which the Left has been aggressively attempting to lower), then all such prudent considerations are abandoned, and every demonstrable doubly dummy is welcomed into the voting booths. Everyone knows that children aren’t the only ones who lack critical thinking skills, sufficient knowledge to vote, and can be easily influenced by others. Why then are they singled out for these deficiencies when adults are not? Because of their age, don’t they have at least as much ‘skin in the game’ as the older voters who will depart sooner? My own sentiments on voting are a matter of record here and here.
Rebane-
Doing the Tea Party lap dance again? God this is lame!!! I am laughing my ass off. I really do feel like you wing nuts are living in Oz.
I now rest assured the right's one and only concern is the integrity of my ballot. Down with mail in ballots because of "ballot harvesting? When was the last time someone came to your door and offered to fill in your ballot and deliver it to the box? Jade Helm time once again in dead end right wing alley. Maybe we should only deliver our tax returns to the IRS in person because of tax harvesting? That dastardly fellow came by and offered to do my taxes along with my ballot. He probably did Todd's taxes simply to make him look like a scofflaw.
Posted by: Ozz | 13 March 2019 at 04:12 PM
OOZE, you libs always drink the kool-aid. The Tea Party is totally correct. They want to ensure the votes are counted and safe. You libs stole seven Congressional seats in November and we would like that to be stopped.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 13 March 2019 at 06:23 PM
Here is one report from the Federalist:
In Orange County, an estimated 250,000 harvested ballots were reportedly dropped off on Election Day alone.
One interaction caught by a Santa Clarita family’s doorbell camera suggested how harvesting can work in practice. A harvester, identifying herself as Lulu, asks for Brandi, and says she is there to collect her ballot, explaining that there is “this new service, but only too like, people who are supporting the Democratic Party.”
Very clever of the Democrats to quietly pass a law allowing harvesting and then organize harvesting teams with lists of Democrat voter addresses. It will work once, just like Obama using Facebook to harvest friends contacts, once a potential voter liked his page. On the next election Trump's team was prepared and dug even deeper into the Facebook data and combined the data with other sources. In the next election the Republican will have harvesting teams on the street equipped with the latest technology. Harvesting wars!
Posted by: Russ | 13 March 2019 at 08:35 PM
Sorry Russ - according to Ooooze, since no one came to your door to harvest a ballot it doesn't happen anywhere.
Funny how in N Carolina they 'stopped it' because R's were accused of doing it, yet in Ca where it's legal, it doesn't happen. Quite strange.
And of course the Dems are much more intelligent than R's but when it comes to to voting the highly intelligent Dems haven't got a clue as to how to pull out their IDs. Here in Idaho, us hicks all seem to know how to present our IDs at the polling place. Not a problem for us. What's the issue for you Dems and lefties?
Posted by: Scott O | 13 March 2019 at 09:00 PM
Lowering the voting age to 16? A 16 year old needs a hall pass (permission slip) to use the bathrooom at school. The amendment failed....for now.
“Lowering the voting age is a reasonable proposition. Indeed, it’s something worth considering as a mechanism for inviting adolescents into the larger discourse of our society. But lowering the voting age while forcing these same teens to spend additional years in mandatory schooling environments, cut-off from authentic, inter-generational community interactions, is nothing more than a political ploy.”
https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/lawmakers-want-give-voting-rights-teens-they-treat-toddlers-compulsory-schooling-laws
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 13 March 2019 at 09:28 PM
Todd 6:223-
"You libs stole seven Congressional seats in November"
Care to fill us in, or is this a secret of the Red State? Was it do to ballot harvesting? Truck loads of illegal Mexicans? Or maybe just a paranoid hunch after 8 hours of watching The Duke reruns and listening to Rush in the background?
Posted by: Ozz | 14 March 2019 at 08:26 AM
Russ@8:35PM
That's interesting, I hadn't heard of it. Just yet more proof of how a dominant party becomes more dominant over time, a kind of political Matthew Principle.
It's another example of just how amazing the Trump win was. He squeaked through with novel marketing (and a tireless and effective public speaking schedule) with what is basically a third party.
The War Party took notice of course, and that kind of thing usually works only once. Their immune system is fully activated, as witnessed by the takeover of the FBI, etc plus our local War Party Junior Leaguers are riled up for a fight for next time. Dunno if the God Emperor can pull it off twice, although I'd pay good money to watch the wailings and lamentation if he did.
Posted by: scenes | 14 March 2019 at 08:35 AM
Ozz | 14 March 2019 at 08:26 AM
The proof is in front of your homely face/. Seven wins on election night, then ballot harvesting and seven losses within a week. You people are really good at thievery. You are the Manifort of election theft.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 14 March 2019 at 09:05 AM
Todd 9:05-
Most people call counting ballots as counting ballots. If you are a conspiracy theory nut, when you lose, you call it "ballot harvesting". Proof???? Nah, I didn't think so.
What did you call it when you got the boot from your own soft government job? I called it a reality check. I'm sure you blamed the "Deep State." Go back to your darkened room and have a little whine with your cheese, Mumbo.
Posted by: Ozz | 14 March 2019 at 09:27 AM
Ozz | 14 March 2019 at 09:27 AM
OOZe/Swallows/Pelline, Booted? No I retired. Which says you are a liar that just makes things up. Why don't you get some balls and post your true name? Is your job in the jail restrooms driving you that goofY>
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 14 March 2019 at 09:38 AM
Gentlemen(?), this commentary has a topic. Let's keep the comments relevant to that instead of making this into a mudball slinging sandbox. Much grass.
Posted by: George Rebane | 14 March 2019 at 10:57 AM
,,,speaking about 'much grass' why should a felon busted for 'much grass' not be allowed to vote?
,,,a guy like Manafort on the other hand obviously should be shunned and have his right to vote taken away...By the time Trump's term is up most of his cabinet and staff will be non-voters!!!
,,,it is pretty hilarious to see you trying to push your 'dems are the new communists' trope,,,you call them socialists but we know what that dogwhistle means...
Your 'dems want anyone to be able to vote' trope is obviously false.
Are you our new homegrown Alinsky???
Posted by: AVMAn | 14 March 2019 at 11:37 AM
AVman 1137am - Your ability to keep embarrassing yourself is boundless. Provide some counter evidence that it is the Right that wants non-citizens to vote. The evidence is legion that the Left led by Dems promote legal and illegal alien voting and laws/regs that either eliminate vetting or make vetting of franchised voters more difficult.
http://www.msnbc.com/the-cycle/why-everyone-should-be-allowed-vote
https://jacobinmag.com/2018/11/noncitizen-voting-undocumented-immigrants-midterm-elections
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-gop-passes-measure-blasting-allowing-non-citizens-vote-local-n913591
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/san-francisco-oks-voting-for-noncitizens-but-most-are-staying-on-sidelines
https://cis.org/Huennekens/Aliens-and-Voter-Fraud
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/03/undocumented-immigrants-can-vote-in-some-elections-but-ice-could-keep-them-away/?
Posted by: George Rebane | 14 March 2019 at 12:48 PM
“Ari Berman of Mother Jones writes that Nancy Pelosi’s 700-page For the People Act that did pass the House contains “a slew of measures designed to expand voting rights, which … include nationwide automatic voter registration, Election Day registration, two weeks of early voting in every state … restoration of voting rights for ex-felons, and declaring Election Day a federal holiday.”
House Republicans offered an amendment to the bill with language that said, “allowing illegal immigrants the right to vote devalues the franchise and diminishes the voting power of United States citizens.”
All but six Democrats voted against the GOP proposal.
If the new U.S. electorate of, say, 2024, includes tens of millions of new voters — 16- and 17-year-olds; illegal migrants; ex-cons; new legal immigrants from Asia, Africa and Latin America who vote 70 to 90 percent Democratic, the political future of America has already been determined.
California, here we come.
https://buchanan.org/blog/how-middle-america-is-to-be-dispossessed-136645
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 14 March 2019 at 02:26 PM
re BillT 226pm & my 1248pm - It would appear that now would be an excellent time for the AVMan (1137am) to chime in and support his outlandish assertion, or perhaps offer some words of contrition on the matter.
Posted by: George Rebane | 14 March 2019 at 03:16 PM
Greg Diaz is a partisan hack who never conducted an election prior to being hired by the county?! I did not know that. 😂
Posted by: Barry Pruett | 15 March 2019 at 10:07 AM
Todd writes
" You libs stole seven Congressional seats in November and we would like that to be stopped."
Todd, Can you document that statement or did you make it up?
Posted by: Paul Emery | 18 March 2019 at 05:34 PM
Exactly what "7 seats" are you referring to?
Posted by: Paul Emery | 18 March 2019 at 05:35 PM
Also Todd a look at the last congressional election returns shows that the Dems received 8,010,000 votes to the Repubs 3,973,396. that's a margin of over 4 million votes for the dems and a percent of 65-32% or 33%. So you contend the Dems stole the elections. Really Todd, with that margin that's a bit ludicrous. How do you justify your position?
Posted by: Paul Emery | 18 March 2019 at 05:45 PM
Here's a link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections_in_California
Posted by: Paul Emery | 18 March 2019 at 05:45 PM
George writes about voter qualifications:
"The most important of these is some minimum knowledge of our country’s governance and the issues/candidates on the ballot. "
In you view how would this be administrated-as some kind of testing or interview? Also should this be a Federal, State or local jurisdiction administering the testing?
Posted by: Paul Emery | 18 March 2019 at 07:37 PM
PaulE 737pm - Excellent question. We test and retest drivers when they renew their licenses; we test gun owners when they apply for a CCW permit. This can also be done with voters who qualify for a voting permit - they will renew their permit every few years with a test of minimal knowledge about government and governance, with perhaps some major current issue thrown in. My preference is that the state would administer the test just as they do in the DMV.
Posted by: George Rebane | 18 March 2019 at 09:10 PM