NZ Massacre – the Left’s new perfect storm

“Conservatism is corporatism in disguise.  I want no part of it. … The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People’s Republic of China. … Conservatism is dead, thank God.”  Australian Brenton Tarrant, NZ shooter

George Rebane

The Christchurch massacre has been covered extensively and also received an initial go-through by RR commenters.  As always happens in the coverage of such massacres, they are characterized as ‘insane’, ‘the acts of a deranged person’, and ‘senseless killings’.  I have always thought that we’re missing something significant about these mass killings when we dismiss them as such.  Years ago, I gave my own take on these killers of the Islamic persuasion in ‘Of Ragheads and Racism’.  However, it should be clear that those sentiments are not restricted to terrorists of only one persuasion; there is a lot happening in this world which requires a wider and more detailed look.

Reading the Brenton Tarrant manifesto titled ‘The Great Replacement’ ( Download The-Great-Replacement-New-Zealand-Shooter), I highlighted some salient points that are worth noting as we assess his motives, objective, and MO.  Instead of knitting these into continuous prose, I am leaving them as numbered paragraphs for easy reference in any discussion which might ensue.

1. Tarrant is rational and not crazy; he is definitely an admitted a racist. He has a very specific starting point from which he reasons out a specific world in trouble that needs to be fixed through his draconian prescriptions.  In trying to understand him, and others like him, we do ourselves no benefit by calling him insane or deranged with little forethought or without examination of his extensively recorded motivations.
2. Tarrant holds beliefs equivalent to the sincere beliefs of Muslim terrorists, while we may vilify such beliefs, it would be a mistake to characterize any of those as insane. Within their ontology and received logic, their terror is totally supported within their reasoning which turns out to be very similar to Tarrant’s.
3. Tarrant wanted to destabilize western societies in developed countries in order to bring about a racial revolution to transform them into culturally cohesive white-dominated, nation-states that would preserve white European cultures.
4. Tarrant is not a ‘white supremacist’ - nowhere does he say or imply that whites should rule the world. Instead, he sees an ideal world being a collection of territorially bounded distinct cultures.
5. He may be a ‘white nationalist’ (depending on whose definition is used), and is definitely a self-admitted racist and “ethno-nationalist”.
6. Tarrant seeks to halt and reverse the declining demographic of European-descended white people. That is the prime focus of his objective and/or utility.
7. Both crazy and sane people can and do share Tarrant’s set of beliefs. But not necessarily his MO.
8. Tarrant claims to represent “Millions of European and other ethno-nationalist peoples that wish to live in peace amongst their own people, living in their own lands, practicing their own traditions and deciding the future of their own kind.”
9. He plans the Left to play into his hand to abolish the 2^nd Amendment in US, which then “will result in a dramatic polarization of the people in the United States and eventually a fracturing of the US along cultural and racial lines.” Absent his murderous rampage, we are already well on the way on that path.
10. Tarrant’s world order - “I wish the different peoples of their world all the best regardless of their ethnicity, race, culture of faith and that they live in peace and prosperity, amongst their own people, practicing their own traditions, in their own nations. But, if those same people seek to come to my people’s lands, replace my people, subjugate my people, make war upon on my people, then I shall be forced to fight them, and hold nothing in reserve.”
11. According to my lights, such horrific murderous acts do not promote his desired world order. In fact, they do the opposite by strengthening the narrative of the opponents of western culture.  Western culture per se is not racist or racially specific since much of the world has successfully adopted and practiced large parts of it in their own lands.
12. On diversity: Tarrant rationalizes his support for qualified diversity by characterizing his “attack in the name of diversity. To ensure diverse peoples remain diverse, separate, unique, undiluted in unrestrained cultural or ethnic expression and autonomy.  To ensure that the peoples of the world remain true to their traditions and faiths and do not become watered down and corrupted by the influence of outsiders. The attack was to ensure a preservation of beauty, art and tradition. In my mind a rainbow is only beautiful due to its variety of colours, mix the colours together and you destroy them all and they are gone forever and the end result is far from anything beautiful.”  (This last is shared by many writers who decry the amalgamation of cultures.)
13. “I am an Ethno-nationalist Eco-fascist. Ethnic autonomy for all peoples with a focus on the preservation of nature, and the natural order.” “The Europe of the future is not one of concrete and steel, smog and wires but a place of forests, lakes, mountains and meadows. Not a place where english is the defacto language but a place where every European language, belief and tradition is valued. Each nation and each ethnicity was melded by their own environment and if they are to be protected so must their own environments.” (Also claims to be anti-conservative and anti-capitalist, p24, see below)
14. “THE UNARMED INVADER IS MORE DANGEROUS THAT THE ARMED”, p43 – this is another widely shared view.
15. “Democracy is mob rule and the mob itself is ruled by our own enemies. The global and corporate ran(sic) press controls them, the education system (long since fallen to the long march through the institutions committed by the marxists) controls them, the state (long since heavily lost to its corporate backers) controls them and the anti-white media machine controls them.”, p59
16. Tarrant calls for “ethnic genocide” - Do not fret on the manner of how victory is achieved, all methods are possible, in the face of ethnic genocide, all morality is ambiguous.” (radical Islam concurs)
17. Capitalism is the willing traitor with its demand for cheap labor. “Break the back of cheap labor. Whether that is by encouraging and pushing increases to the minimum wage; furthering the unionization of workers; increasing the native birthrate and thereby reducing the need for the importation of labour; increasing the rights of workers; pushing for the increase in automation or advancement of industrial labour replacement or any other tactic that is available.  In the end human greed and the need for increasing profit margins of capital owners needs to be fought against and broken.” p68
18. Tarrant’s endgame is a race-based civil war in the United States. In a somewhat muddled verbiage he exhorts, “A boil over in the melting pot Civil war in the so called ‘Melting pot’ that is the United States should be a major aim in overthrowing the global power structure and the Wests’ egalitarian, individualist, globalist dominant culture. In the United States, perhaps more than anywhere else in the world, the cult of the individual has been practiced for the longest time and with the deepest devotion.” p69. (group-based, identity politics – now where do we continue to experience that?)

Tarrant’s multi-faceted observations touch on many acknowledged problems and features of our world.  But his solution of a post-bellum globe consisting of walled nation-states to remain racially pure AND culturally cohesive, is both impossible and undesirable.  I oppose all such acts of terror that are designed to destabilize, not because they cannot destabilize, because most certainly they can.  However, no one knows or can control how the destabilization will develop, save that it will entail horrible human suffering and possibly the end of our species on this earth – both world wars of the 20^th century attest to that.

Also, such racial isolationism, as Tarrant would like see, has historically not worked, and if tried again, will again inhibit human progress.  The entropy of human intercourse dictates that our racial future is an amalgam of humanity – mankind will inevitably proceed toward a population in which racial differences blur and then disappear.  (And we have yet to consider what will happen when the new transhumans weigh in.)

But I fear that Tarrant’s message will resonate with a sizeable number of dedicated and/or insane people on the fringes that share versions of his beliefs and world view, and continue to motivate new acts of such violence.  And this becomes more likely as the Left’s promotion of illegal cross-border migrations continue in Europe and the US.  Most certainly, the equivalent of that has already happened in the world of Islam where the west is taught as the pernicious enemy of the Prophet and the faithful of Allah.

My own desire (i.e. Rebane Doctrine desiderata) is that we will not be forced to become a cultural amalgam.  My hope is that humanity sees value in promoting and preserving distinct, albeit slowly evolving, cultures that are best achieved in the context of independent, liberal, and sovereign nation-states under a renewed Westphalian order. This will promote an orderly evolution and betterment of the human condition as the independent, commercially interacting states observe, examine, and voluntarily adopt ‘best practices’ from other lands.  According to my lights, it is under such a world order that we can best fulfill our destiny as a space-faring civilization destined to go to the stars.  Such a future is not possible if humanity succumbs to a global leviathan dominated by any given race, religion, or ideology that inexorably then degenerates into a stable and self-sustaining tyranny.

Comments

[Todd Juvinall]

People like this killer are a lot of times smart like a fox. Their acts are horrendous and we say to ourselves"how could anyone do that"? But they sometimes have a plan. The Unabomber had his own manifesto and we know he was pretty smart. It appears this killer was trying to do a Smollette. Get a race war going perhaps. I recall the killer at the gay nightclub doing similar pronouncements. He was a Muslim and murdered 49 people. Obama and his pals though rathcethed down the fact he was a Muslim and they refused to call his acts in connection with worldwide jihadism. So here again is the double standard of the press.

[Walt]

They sure don't like to keep what rights the do have.
People voluntarily turning in guns? SCREW THAT!! I didn't go on a rampage, It's the nut case. NOT the gun.

[Barry Pruett]

George. Don’t you think that’s fair to say the author entirely confuses race with shared values? I would posit that, while there may be some stereotypical correlation, so long as the values of a society are shared, race is irrelevant. The author wrongfully latches on to race when really the issue is a lack of shared values. Further it can be solidly argued that western society is lacking values in general. Race is not our problem. The real problem is a lack of (or at least a decline of) consistent values in western society.

[George Rebane]

BarryP 840pm - Of course, you and I would agree to that, and I'm record on that for years. A shared culture (which includes values) can be totally race-independent. We of many races in America have demonstrated that. But it seems to me that Tarrant does not make such a distinction, he really takes the white European race/culture/values as an inseparable entity to be preserved at all cost.

In the US our base of commonly shared culture (that includes values) has been declining for the last 40 years. But it's even worse than that when we have abandoned our common history, ability to similarly interpret facts, and reason with different logical bases. We have left no common ground on which to meet in order to even consider a reunion.

[Bill Tozer]

Good point Barry.
Oh, much to digest. Need to take this one in pieces. After posting earlier on Sandbox the author was not a white nationalist, he said many things a white nationalist would say. I don’t want to impose my will on you and you don’t impose your will on me. I will live over here, you live over there. Do your own thing, I will do mine and good luck and best wishes to you. Stay in your lane and I will stay in mine. Paragraph # 10. Well, he is an ethno-nationalist.

Not sure how an ethno-nationalism fits into borders. If culture, customs, race, heritage are king, then Europe or Africa should break into hundreds of countries or borders redrawn. Like the USSR after the fall. Heck, Libya has like 19 tribes and dialects. But then he pivots to keeping the Turks out of Europe, Eurocentric POV.
The invaders. Conquered land. Racism. Death of a culture. A lot there and a lot of intersectionary with cultural appropriation and identity politics as well.

“Also, such racial isolationism, as Tarrant he entropy of human intercourse dictates that our racial future is an amalgam of humanity like see, has historically not worked, and if tried again, will again inhibit human progress.....”—Dr.Rebane

Makes me grateful I live in the USA. We are a nation built on ideals. Values. A republic if we can keep it.
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One aspect. Muslim vs Islamic personified in Ilham Omar.

“All this is to underscore that it is not possible to peg Omar as representative of a collective Muslim identity. However, she checks off the boxes for Islamist representation, and that comes down to three key factors:

-Vitriolic hate for Israel, while blurring or tolerating gross anti-Semitism alongside sloppy scrutiny of Israeli policies.
-Absolute disinterest in good faith engagement and dialogue with non-Islamist personalities, particularly Muslim reformers.
-Using Western political channels to advance the agenda of Islamic supremacism, where Islam is narrowly defined by a small segment of a Muslim demographic. This demographic drives the public narrative through a visible Muslim identity, which must currently be seen as oppressed or victimized to gain additional public favor and tolerance that then reinforces the underlying supremacism.

“As we pan through her tweets, interviews, and legislative work, we’re looking for American values that transcend race, color, and creed. Those American values aren’t defined by whether she practices Islam, chooses to wear a hijab, and so forth — those factors are absolutely irrelevant here. We’re looking to see if she can isolate the values that gave rise to a nation she and her family sought refuge in from war-torn Somalia.

If you have difficulty identifying what distances America from foreign terror groups for example, or deflect criticism with accusations of racism or bigotry versus engaging in a sophisticated debate of ideas, then once at the helm of power, you run to risk of not being able to keep America from becoming another country to escape from.

http://thefederalist.com/2019/03/18/ilhan-omar-doesnt-represent-american-muslims-represents-islamists/

[Barry Pruett]

Then does it not follow that pride in one’s national identity or common values is not connected to race by most folks. Those folks that connect race and pride in shared values are in fact sharing the same ideology as the killer in New Zealand.

[George Rebane]

BarryP 627am - sure, at least that part of it.

[scenes]

"Then does it not follow that pride in one’s national identity or common values is not connected to race by most folks. "

An existence proof for that pride is called 'China'. You can argue that any truly bound together people will eventually become a single 'race' (ie. have similar appearance) simply due to intermarriage.

"Those folks that connect race and pride in shared values are in fact sharing the same ideology as the killer in New Zealand."

Once again, think 'China', 'Japan', probably most of the non-Western world. That's a mighty broad brush you've got there.

My take is that nations (as opposed to countries) require the presence of an existential external threat to form. You can always form a country by the threat of force to it's citizens.

[Barry Pruett]

“My take is that nations (as opposed to countries) require the presence of an existential external threat to form. You can always form a country by the threat of force to it's citizens.”

What happens when the threat to the nation’s common, uniting values upon which the nation is built comes from within?

[scenes]

"What happens when the threat to the nation’s common, uniting values upon which the nation is built comes from within?"

Obviously you can get different results.

. A slowly dissolving nation that becomes a boundary area between more flourishing ones.
. Civil war. Usually results in the domination of one group over the others. Sometimes you get separate nations, but I can think of fewer examples.
. External threat. Everyone forgets their differences and evolve some new shared concept. The Celts and Phoenician colonies made the Romans.

No doubt you are referring to the campaign to tear down Western culture by the political Left. Being a coalition, I can't see a strongly consistent enough set of internal values for them to build a nation. There's good reasons for things like monarchies, ethnonations (to coin a term), organized religions, etc. to have lasted for such a long time. We are continuously on new ground and crystal balls are cloudy things.

I do think that the modern Left shares one strong tie with the efforts to achieve Communism. Communism, and the Soviets really did know and act on this, requires expansion to survive. Any alternative system of government, given that they tend to operate in a more efficient and/or pleasing fashion, presents a threat to your own by it's mere existence. It's an all or nothing game.

end rant

[George Rebane]

In the turnover of nations/kingdoms over the millennia, most by far have fallen and transformed as a result of internal strife. The sweeping armies of empires (Dorian invasions, Alexander, Rome, Napoleon, ...) were few and far between. America is destined for a Great Divide that is already going through its birthpains as the Left seeks replace a market-driven capitalist republic with a socialist state run by central planners and controllers - its name does not matter since it will not relate to its new form of governance.

And that can only be achieved by enlarging the voter population with the young, the ignorant, the illegals to establish a pure one-party 'democracy' as a way-station to totalitarian rule. California is showing the way, and now needs federal succor to survive and spread its disease nation wide.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-costs-of-californias-one-party-state-11552940114

[Ozz]

Rebane-9:18
"America is destined for a Great Divide that is already going through its birthpains as the Left seeks replace a market-driven capitalist"

Reminds me of a John Heywood quote: "None is so blind . . ."

Today we have the most extreme right wing nut president in our country's history DEMANDING that companies operate at a loss (so that "his" employment numbers look good). And you blame the Left for trying to replace a market driven economy?

[Gregory]

China doesn't have a uniting language. Not everyone speaks Mandarin, not everyone even speaks a Chinese language. It's a linguistic mess, though Mandarin, with over 800 million speakers worldwide, is dominant.

Regarding the latest shooter, were killing 50 people be reason to be interested in his thoughts, there's perhaps a million times as much reason to read Quotations from Chairman Mao.

"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." -(guess who)

[fish]

Posted by: Ozz | 19 March 2019 at 09:51 AM

Today we have the most extreme right wing nut president in our country's history DEMANDING that companies operate at a loss (so that "his" employment numbers look good). And you blame the Left for trying to replace a market driven economy?

Well that's sufficiently screechy and anodyne that I can't tell if it is the "Pilot" or "Co-Pilot" with their hands on the puppets yoke…….

[Gregory]

"Ozz", why don't you go comment in Pellini's blog... he's so bored and lonely that he's resorted to commenting three times this morning using his inane lickspittle Annie Fox sockpuppet.

[Todd Juvinall]

Ozz | 19 March 2019 at 09:51 AM

No the worst was democrat Woodrow Wilson. He had the KKK in the White House. Trump condemns them. So once again you morons that don't read history are shown to be the charlatans you all are.

[Ozz]

Pivot, deflect and bridge. Greg and Todd are in a corner without an answer that suits their narrative. Pull the stained bedsheets over your heads and pretend the monster can't see you. PD&B.

[Gregory]

"Today we have the most extreme right wing nut president in our country's history"

He's not "extreme right wing" by anyone besides members of the extreme left wing

"DEMANDING that companies operate at a loss (so that "his" employment numbers look good)"

That's not what his jawboning of GM is about and you know it.

"And you blame the Left for trying to replace a market driven economy?"

Nice whataboutism there, "Ozz", but the Left is trying to replace a market driven economy with a command and control economy based around "renewables".

[Todd Juvinall]

Ozz | 19 March 2019 at 10:27 AM

You need some history lessons bub. Your ilk was the KKK and the Jim Crow proponents, not mine or I'm guessing Gregory. It is you and yours that are the racists and bigots not my side. You are all about the government boot on the neck of freedom. I am all about freedom of the individual. So is Trump. But you lefty extremists can't hack it so you make this crap up and spread your manure all over hoping it sticks. Well Trump is up in the polls, CNN had to cough their way through their own poll showing he is doing as good or better at this time of the year.

[Ozz]

Greg-
"That's not what his jawboning of GM is about and you know it."

No I don't. GM has made a decision based on the economics of vehicle manufacture and sales. Old Trump is demanding that they disregard their books and continue in a direction as HE sees fit. The orange socialist is demanding Harley and Carrier (among others) do the same. But because he's an old, bigoted, misogynist white male that shares your right wing outlook, you give him a free ride. Hypocrisy at its most transparent. If Obama was doing the same, you'd be apoplectic - tell me otherwise.

[George Rebane]

Now I have no idea how even a leftwinger like Mr Ozz can hide from news blaring daily from the Left stating again and again that their aim is to do away with capitalism (and its corollary free markets) and replace it with any of a dozen forms of collectivism. And that man cannot see any of this phenomenon taking place across the land. He instead blames Prez Trump for all the nation's ills during a time when its economy has not been this good for decades.

But make no mistake, Trump is not an established free marketeer, and has no blind following on this blog. The man is an opportunistic corporatist, but he's the best we currently have for upsetting Washington's apple cart in a way that doesn't destroy the nation's ability to create wealth through free people practicing entrepreneurship. If he ever fucks up doing that, I wager that RR's conservetarian readers will be the first throw his butt under the bus.

[Gregory]

"But because he's an old, bigoted, misogynist white male that shares your right wing outlook, you give him a free ride."

Sticks and stones, luv. I'm not right wing. I'm not even "white" by some standards.

Unlike Obama, Trump is not shutting down entire parts of GM; Trump has yet to do anything beyond "jawboning" to keep a GM plant open and I'd expect he wont.

I'd say Ozz at 1052am is Pellini at his wurst.

[Paul Emery]

George

can you point me to where in the Constitution a literacy test or what ever you want to call it should be prerequisite for voting?

[Paul Emery]

Also George, the bus is waiting for Trump. Can't wait to see you and the RR's make the first toss. Just remember he's big and fat so it will take several of you.

[Gregory]

Punchy, "can you point me to where in" this blog "a literacy test or what ever you want to call it should be prerequisite for voting" was mentioned by anyone besides you?

[Ozz]

George-

"...like Mr Ozz can hide from news blaring daily from the Left stating again and again that their aim is to do away with capitalism (and its corollary free markets)"

Please don't put words in my mouth or ascribe false actions/behavior to me. I have never, ever, defended the left's aim to do away with capitalism. I have only, quite fairly, pointed out the hypocrisy of the right for defending Trump's actions while it would crush any lib who did the same. I have also, quite fairly, pointed out the shuck and jive exhibited by Greg and Todd when they deflect from the issue.

[Bill Tozer]

Ozz @ 10:52 am
And what does this have to due with the topic at hand, i.e., the shooter’s view of how the world should be?? His goals and tactics?
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Money quotes among hundreds:

6. Tarrant seeks to halt and reverse the declining demographic of European-descended white people. That is the prime focus of his objective and/or utility.

“Such a future is not possible if humanity succumbs to a global leviathan dominated by any given race, religion, or ideology that inexorably then degenerates into a stable and self-sustaining tyranny.” Dr. Rebane
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“But I fear that Tarrant’s message will resonate with a sizeable number of dedicated and/or insane people on the fringes that share versions of his beliefs and world view, and continue to motivate new acts of such violence. And this becomes more likely as the Left’s promotion of illegal cross-border migrations continue in Europe and the US. Most certainly, the equivalent of that has already happened in the world of Islam where the west is taught as the pernicious enemy of the Prophet and the faithful of Allah.”

Moi—I have the same ‘fear’....uneasy feeling in my gut. Can’t put a finger on it, but this particular shooting seems different. Won’t say game changer, but this is different.

Tarrant knows the media more than they know themselves, as evidenced by the media (and CNN in particular) reacting and doing exactly what he knew and wanted them to do. He played the media perfectly.

His manifesto hit on open borders to dismantling of Western European influence, Western Civilization, American history, culture, the Age of Enlightenment, art, beauty, etc.
His Great Divide is seen through the eyes of a racist, thus race and ethnicity are king in preserving culture. His Great Divide is whites vs. non-whites, “European” culture vs everybody else.

He would object to putting a stucco building or mosque between two cathedrals on some cobble stone street as much as Nevada City would object to putting a Taco Bell on Broad Street...or off Broad St. That’s the culture part.

I look around and see every white male Democrat canidate confessing their sins of being born white and male (or white female) while paying homage and kissing the ring of the Gods of Identity Politics to receive their blessing before continuing on with their Presidential ambitions. Like mortals bringing gifts to the gods before battle. Does not these actions reinforce the superiority of the “obsessed class”? The need to demolish one’s culture to elevate another above others does not create the equality our Republic and values are bases on. Nah, it creates the opposite result. It leads to tyranny.

“12. On diversity: Tarrant rationalizes his support for qualified diversity by characterizing his “attack in the name of diversity. To ensure diverse peoples remain diverse, separate, unique, undiluted in unrestrained cultural or ethnic expression and autonomy. To ensure that the peoples of the world remain true to their traditions and faiths and do not become watered down and corrupted by the influence of outsiders. The attack was to ensure a preservation of beauty, art and tradition.”

Tarrant’s idea of a Europe with a pristine atural environment with forests and wild bears and wolves roaming free from south of France to Greenland not only turns the clocks back hundreds of years, but is almost word for word taken from the Agenda 21 Wildlands playbook.

[fish]

Posted by: Ozz | 19 March 2019 at 11:56 AM

Please don't put words in my mouth or ascribe false actions/behavior to me.

Why not? You've been a regular purveyor of these sorts of slanders Steve!

[Todd Juvinall]

Fish you crack me up. How is it that these libs think we don't see them doing what they say we are? Self-awareness is missing in those loons.

[Ozz]

Toes 12:15
"And what does this have to due with the topic at hand,"

If it so bothers you that George brought this up, grill him. I simply responded to his assertion.

Rebane-9:18
"America is destined for a Great Divide that is already going through its birthpains as the Left seeks replace a market-driven capitalist"

[Todd Juvinall]

OOZE is now GeorgeR's protector and gatekeeper? Stay in Truckee and put a lid on it.

[Bill Tozer]

Ozzz. Fair enough. I do recall a previous President’s Administration ordering the firing of GM’s CEO and ordering the closing of GM dealerships, not to mention the unprecedented step of stiffing the bond holders. Pay the employees first, bond holders second, then pay so and so third. That’s the way it has been done, but fair enough.

All in all, the Left has and is always salivated taking over market driven capitalism. No, I won’t play Mad Max videos of nationalizing the oil companies...or hundreds of others’ comments by the Enlightened Bettors.Perhaps the operative word here is “Left.” From the New Left (AOC) to the old Left (Bernie), I see little in your agrument to dissuade me. Perhaps you are not part of “The Left”. Maybe that train left the station without you.

As far as I can tell, there is not one word in the French Green Party platform that does not reflect the Left of today. Sure, nobody likes to be painted with the ole Broad Brush. That includes blue collar white heterosexual males and married females living in fly over country and have the gall to believe that prayers and thoughts are empathy to those suffering. I know, I know. That be racist thinking. Good thing the Left is here to get their minds right.

[Gregory]

As a bona fide African American, I am shocked at a fat cracker like Pelline (I think there is adequate evidence for it to be Pelline) using a racist term, "shuck and jive", to describe my responses to his false accusations. Or anyone's responses.

[Bill Tozer]

Tarrant is not stupid. I have stated on this site before that parts of Berekely professor Dr. Kaczynski’s manifesto contains some provocative and downright soothsayer elements of future technology’s affect on societal behavior. In fact, his PHd mathematics thesis was said to be of such genius that only twelve geniuses could read and understand it, lol. Tarrant is no Professor Ted, for the record.

In Tarrant’s own words.
“I also believe fertility rates are part of those racial differences and that the immigrants in our lands with high fertility must be forced out to ensure the existance of our race.
So yes. I am a racist.
Were/are you a “xenophobe”?\
No, no culture scares me. I am only wary of those cultures with higher fertility rates replacing others.
Were/are you a “islamophobe”?
No, I am not afraid of islam, only that, due to its high fertility rates, it will grow to replace other peoples and faiths.
Were/are you a nationalist?
Yes, predominantly an ethno-nationalist(I place importance on the health and well being of my race above all else).
Were/are you a nazi?
No, actual nazis do not exist.They haven’t been a political or social force anywhere in the world for more than 60 years.
Were/are you an anti-semite?
No.A jew living in israel is no enemy of mine, so long as they do not seek to subvert or harm my people.
Were/are you a neo-nazi?
That is a very broad category of people, and the definition is fuzzy at best. So no, I don’t believe so.
Were/are you a conservative?
No, conservatism is corporatism in disguise, I want no part of it.
Were/are you a christian?
That is complicated.
When I know, I will tell you.
Were/are you a fascist?
Yes. For once, the person that will be called a fascist, is an actual fascist. I am sure the journalists will love that.
I mostly agree with Sir Oswald Mosley’s views and consider myself an Eco-fascist by nature.
The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People’s Republic of China.

Interesting what he said about Jews. No problem with Jews as long as they do not seek to harm or subvert ‘ my people.’ He said that about everybody. A campaign piece to Jews and Israel in the Muslim world.

“In January 2018, Ahmed wrote of Israel’s “sole claim to the Holy Land” and that Jerusalem is Israel’s capital. She penned:

. . . as a believing Muslim observing Islam, I am compelled by the Quran to support Israel’s sole claim to the Holy Land; the Quran says it is so. The 80,000-word document 1.6 billion Muslims accept as the revealed word of God, the Quran, is categorical about the destiny of Israel and the people who can claim its ownership. The Quran states: “Moses said to his people: O my people! Remember the bounty of God upon you when He bestowed prophets upon you, and made you kings and gave you that which had not been given to anyone before you amongst the nations. O my people! Enter the Holy Land which God has written for you, and do not turn tail, otherwise you will be losers.”

Nowhere does the Quran make mention of the Muslims’ claim to the Holy Land. Instead, God reveals in the Quran that The Holy Land is designated for the followers of Moses. Because the Promised Land is theirs according to the Quran, only the followers of Moses may determine where their capital must lie. It is this Islamic truth that political Islamists vehemently deny.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/44811/muslim-doctor-stuns-cnn-president-trump-and-gop-hank-berrien?%3Futm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand

Ah, the smell of facism

https://www.dailywire.com/news/44847/israeli-justice-minister-hank-berrien?%3Futm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand

[George Rebane]

PaulE, you may have forgotten that over the years it is I and people like me who advocate a 'license to vote' - there is no claim that this is a constitutional requirement (where did you get that from?). I'm just not in favor of the ignorant emotionally and psychologically compliant double dummies voting - it's a personal preference. But I'm not asking anyone to go through what the Rebanes and other like us did not have to demonstrate in order to become citizens and vote.
https://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2012/12/who-should-not-vote.html
https://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2011/09/who-can-work-who-may-vote.html

[Gregory]

Service guarantees citizenship!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMTz9nIUkGc

Remember, the only good bug is a dead bug.

[Bill Tozer]

Tarrant’s dream came true, his plan was magnificent...in the wrong way. Brilliant in the same way using fulled fueled commercial aircraft as misslees to take down the Twin Towers on 9/11. Exploited at gapping weakness. He knew exactly how the press and NZ would respond and react.

Tarrant chose NZ because he considered it the “safest country on Earth.” One individual brought the entire nation to its knees. Overnight, the gun ban went into effect, legally purchased firearms are now to be turned in to authorities and the nation is changed forever. A weaker kneed Liberal is the leader of New Zealand. All the pieces were in place.

Bernie said yesterday we should follow New Zealand’s lead. That goal of his is music to the ears of the control freak Constitution disposing Left. Banning semi-auto firearms would mean taking away about 90% of the firearms legally purchased today in the USA.

Ironically, the gun that stopped Tarrant is now banned in New Zealand. It is not lost on me that the duration of every mass shooting in our country is the time it takes for a 2nd gun to arrive on the scene.

More New Zealand fallout. Sorry Jordan Peterson, your license is withdrawn. Book burning next?

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/new-zealand-retailer-pulls-jordan-peterson-book-after-mosque-shootings/

“A New Zealand bookstore stopped selling Jordan Peterson’s book in light of the Christchurch mosque shootings, but continues offering “Mein Kampf.”

“Management at Whitcoulls, one of the largest bookstores in New Zealand, said it would be wrong to support Peterson by selling “12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos” in light of “some extremely disturbing material being circulated prior, during and after the Christchurch attack,” according to an apparent customer service email, likely referencing a photograph in which Peterson embraced a fan wearing an “I’m A Proud Islamaphobe” T-shirt.

The store, however, continues to offer Adolf Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” and Albert Cooper’s “Why Islamic Society Is Not Compatible With American Society,” according to its website”

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/bookstore-removes-jordan-peterson-book-over-mosque-shooting-continues-selling-mein-kampf

[scenes]

'“A New Zealand bookstore stopped selling Jordan Peterson’s book in light of the Christchurch mosque shootings, but continues offering “Mein Kampf.”'

That's essentially like the fact that Amazon dropped most of Kevin McDonald's books but kept "Mein Kampf". As the founder of much of the modern world, I guess that Hitler books still sell. It would be interesting to talk to the censors at Amazon and see how they choose.

In the interest of people reading original source rather than the game of 'Telephone' called journalism, here's the manifesto It's been mostly memory-holed on the net.

https://www.ilfoglio.it/userUpload/The_Great_Replacementconvertito.pdf

Here's an interesting thing, check out the 'White Power" sign:

https://heavy.com/news/2019/03/brenton-tarrant-manifesto/

The OK sign thing is from the chans as a made-up white power sign. I'll bet the people at 4chan never knew that they would be such movers and shakers.

[scenes]

aha. Our host already had the manifesto in his original post. It proves (once again) that I need to read more carefully.

[fish]

Posted by: scenes | 22 March 2019 at 02:27 PM

Hmmmm.....the link to Tarrants scribblings is what had Steve.....errr....Ozzz so spun up yesterday?

You say fertility.....I say fecundity.....let’s call the whole thing off.....

[fish]

Sorry.....I jumped threads!

[scenes]

Interesting. I'd like to keep an eye on this.

Evidently there's a bunch of censoring going on because of the shooting. youtube search is basically broken (try searching by upload date, etc.), zerohedge is blocked in NZ.

Oh well, that's what happens when you give the keys to communications to a set of near-monopolies and/or the government.

https://www.rt.com/news/454158-new-zealand-censors-mosque-shooting/

[scenes]

huh. Try searching for the shooting on youtube and see how much you'll get that isn't a major media outlet.

[Bill Tozer]

@ 2:27 and 2:53 pm

Aha! Now it makes sense when trying to make sense of the senseless. Yesterday in the morning Ozzzzz came out of the gate taking about some woman with 12 kids to did not believe in abortion. No link provided. I thought, WTF is that about. Then, again, about some white lady with 12 kids who did not believe in abortions cause her pastor told her something about abortions....with the added caveat of shooting pot heads on sight, like the dogs they are. Then later the same off the wall Left Field rant about a WHITE Christian mother with TWELVE children and a link. I never open Ozzzzzzzz’s links.

Now it makes sense. He read Tarrant’s manifesto.

PS: Want to know the real reason Punchy and Ozzz have a big blue veiner for Todd? Want to know the reason behind it all??? It was Todd J’s comment about shooting dope dealers on sight. He probably took that line from “Trump’s buddy” Duterte, ROFLMAO!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/05/kill-drug-dealers-medal-philippines-president-rodrigo-duterte

Or was that hooting potheads on sight? Either way, they got TJDS big time. Trump’s buddies! They get the best women.