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14 April 2019

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Ozz

Fish 11:41

Holy guacamole! Did you say that Goldman Sachs favors Trump??!! Say it again!

Did Goldman Sachs boys and girls turned Trumpcateers Jim Donovan, Steven Mnuchin, Dina Powell, Gary Cohn, Jay Clayton or even Steve Bannon have anything to do with putting a thumb on the scales of this "breaking news"? Of course they didn't. You and Bessee are so gullible and easily played. Now, tell us a story (written by the American Petroleum Institute) how climate change is a hoax.

Bill Tozer

Darn girl, you just figured that out? What took you so long?

“Rashida Tlaib Accuses Dem Leadership Of Racism, Says Pelosi Uses Minority Members As ‘Tokens Of Diversity’

https://www.dailywire.com/news/45950/rashida-tlaib-accuses-dem-leadership-racism-says-emily-zanotti

fish

Posted by: Ozz | 14 April 2019 at 12:00 PM


Wow Steve......overreact much?


Drudge posted it and kind soul that I am I reposted it for the "Liar in Residence at Rebanes Ruminations", Palooka Emery to review! Hey, I included a qualifier!

Jeez.....take a Valium!

Don Bessee

LALA land not even being subtle but how will it play in flyover country?


https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/04/14/cbs-the-good-fight-assassinate-trump-tweet-sparks-calls-for-secret-service-investigation/

;-)

Don Bessee

So begins the cannibalism -

Sanders also issued a thinly veiled threat against CAP, warning that he "will be informing my grassroots supporters of the foregoing concerns that I have about the role CAP is playing" and that "should your actions evolve in the coming months, I am happy to reconsider what kind of partnership we can have."

The missive comes days after CAP's ThinkProgress branch published a YouTube video mocking Sanders for spending years attacking "millionaires and billonaires" -- only to change his tune and only criticize "billonaires" shortly after he wrote a bestselling book that made him a millionare. The video prompted a frenzy of social media among progressives as to why a progressive group would try to take down Sanders.

In the letter, first obtained by The New York Times, Sanders said ThinkProgress' in its video "honestly attacked me for hypocrisy in my effort to address income inequality in America." Sanders also said the organization wrote an article mocking him for his "appearance and for the income I earned from writing a book."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sanders-lights-into-liberal-think-tank-he-says-is-smearing-progressives

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Walt

If there is AGW,, then smartass can explain why it still snows in Hawaii. Kinda goes against the whole argument.
"This has turned into a memorable week for snow lovers in Hawaii.

Days after a weekend storm dumped rare snow on Maui, another wintry system is forecast Wednesday and Thursday for the tropical island chain.

Mind you, there's only snow forecast for three of Hawaii's tallest mountain peaks: Haleakala on Maui and Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa on the Big Island. Winter storm warnings have been posted for the areas. "

"Just weather".... Right OOZZzz??

Todd Juvinall

I have to say I have approached this global warming stuff as purely political. All manmade BS since the fall of OOZe's favorite country, the USSR, the eco freaks needed some place to go. And they found it. Anyone think the eco
s lack of interest in the SUN might be a bit suspicious?

Ozz

Todd-
". . . lack of interest in the SUN " Oh yeah Todd, all those solar panels and cancer-causing windmills that you decry are a result of the "ecos" lack of interest in the sun.

You whack jobs are an endless source of entertainment. Gives me something to do while waiting for the wrong side of the world to wake up.

fish

Posted by: Ozz | 14 April 2019 at 12:36 PM

Oooh edgy! Simultaneously Internet Tuff Gai and long suffering intellectual!

I like it!

Bill Tozer

Don @ 12:08 pm

Center for American Progress (CAP) was founded by John Podesta, formerly Bill Clinton’s chief of Staff and Hillary’s 2016 Campaign Manager. What a coincidence.

I can smell My Gal’s claws from here.

No use watching anymore crazy Spartacluz or Pocahontas, or Irish Beto, or Kamala Harris or any of the wacky twenty. It’s all over. The Dems will pick Creepy Uncle Joe. He has too many connections in Congress and too many defenders quick on the draw. Once I found out that the Socialists are only at 10% or so and the far lefties are less than half the Dem Party, it’s all over for the challengers. It’s Biden all the way. The rest is just click bait.
Biden has the old school Black Caucus backing him, will carry the Dem South, and they ain’t going to give the thumbs up to someone who ain’t an Establishment player or who,will rock the boat or shake things up. It’s Biden as the Dem nominee, not matter how loud Rachel and Twitter and the Malcontents cry. They don’t have the numbers. Only 22% of America goes on Twitter. Their noise is louder than their numbers. Hillary in pants.

But, the crop of wackjobs are certainly more entertaining than Creepy Joe, the hugger mugger. The best thing about Creepy Joe is he has no self awareness and is so arrogant. This Dem horserace is much ado about nothing. It’s already been decided.

Todd Juvinall

What is it about trolls that makes them follow me around? I think they like sniffing undies. Anyway the sun is not discussed by the eco freak trolls and their pals as it is the reason there is warmth on the planet's surface. And that is not governable by them. Fortunately the trolls have no power over anything but they sure like to yap about nothing. What a hoot!

Don Bessee

Yang the commissar -

Perhaps this interpretation seems alarmist; Yang certainly does not mean to design an authoritarian America. But his basic premise is that a revolution is coming, and the solution seems to be the expansion of government power to keep the "normal people" from rising up against their entrepreneurial overlords.

Technological unemployment is a real problem, and likely only to grow in the next ten years. It is heartening to know that there is a candidate for president who is taking it seriously. But Yang's solutions suggest that the only possible way out is a growth in the number of government vassals.

https://freebeacon.com/culture/andrew-yang-normies/

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Ozz

Todd 1:19
"Anyway the sun is not discussed by the eco freak trolls and their pals as it is the reason there is warmth on the planet's surface."

Sometimes the best way to plumb the depths of your stupidity is to simply let people ponder what you just wrote.

Todd Juvinall

And what is it that is incorrect. Please explain.

Don Bessee

OH YA!

Now, Moore’s latest detractor has gone so far as to accuse President Trump of treason based on the now-discredited Russia collusion hoax. Some people just can’t move on, the facts be damned. To put it mildly, Moore’s enemies are nothing more than embarrassed partisans who are attacking him as a proxy for the president.

Their embarrassment grows from the glaring mistake they made by failing to forecast the current economic surge. That miss has intensified their hatred of President Trump as the economy keeps on growing.

Contrary to their doom and gloom forecasts, the economy created more than 2.6 million jobs in 2018. Both the unemployment rate and initial claims for unemployment benefit are sitting near 50 year lows while year over year wage growth has been at or above 3 percent for eight consecutive months. When President Trump took office, there were nearly 2 million more people unemployed than there were job openings. There are now nearly 900,000 more job openings that people unemployed.

According to a recent poll released by CNN, more than 70 percent of Americans believe the economy is in “good shape,” the highest number to say so in over 18 years.

Moore is exactly the type of “growth hawk” President Trump and the American people need at the Federal Reserve
In fact, had it not been for the Federal Reserve’s ill-advised interest rates hikes last year, the economy would be even stronger than it is now — something Fed Chairman Jerome Powell seemed to recognize when he reversed plans to raise rates even further in 2019. Moore wisely cautioned against rate hikes all along, suggesting that he’ll be a powerful voice within the central bank defending the interests of working Americans.

The Wall Street Journal praised Moore’s prescience on interest rates, saying he “has certainly been proven right in his warning last autumn that the Fed was tightening policy too fast.” The editorial also noted that Moore’s nomination “has triggered a remarkable cascade of derision and condescension from the political left and the poohbahs of the economics academy,” which the Journal’s editors interpreted as a strong indication that “he’s the right man for the job.” They’re right.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/andy-puzder-stephen-moore-at-the-fed-has-liberals-terrified-heres-why

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Walt

LOL!! Solar panels? Not vary "eco" when it comes to making the damned things. So farm the manufacturing out to shithole countries
where those toxic byproducts ain't regulated.(like China)

Then there is Ivanpah solar,,, Had to pipe in NG to burn to try and break even.
https://www.pe.com/2017/01/23/ivanpah-solar-plant-built-to-limit-greenhouse-gases-is-burning-more-natural-gas/

More bad news our ECO bastards refuse to understand.
"Concentrated solar power is not delivering on green energy promises. Behind the hype these futuristic molten-salt power towers are generating only 13 percent of predicted capacity. But their most worrying issues concern problems with thermal energy storage.

If we consider the latest (2017) National Renewable Energy Laboratory Annual Technology Baseline data, [1] and [2], they say current representative technology for concentrating solar power is molten-salt power towers with 10 hours two-tank thermal energy storage. They admit the first (and only) large molten-salt power tower plant with 10 hours of storage is Crescent Dunes, 110 MW, commissioned in 2015."
https://principia-scientific.org/the-failure-of-solar-tower-thermal-energy-storage/

Maybe OOzz would like to live anywher NEAR a wind turbine.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2012/02/wind-energy-noise-pollution-robert-bryce/
"Living near wind turbines can be hazardous to your health.
In his State of the Union address last week, President Barack Obama touted renewable energy and declared that he would “not walk away from workers” such as Bryan Ritterby, who is employed by a wind-turbine manufacturer in Michigan.

But in their rush to embrace the wind-energy business, Obama and numerous other politicians are walking away from rural residents such as David Enz and his wife, Rose. A year ago, the couple abandoned their home near Denmark, Wis., because of the unbearable low-frequency noise produced by a half-dozen 495-foot-high wind turbines that were built near the home they’ve owned since 1978. The closest was installed about 3,200 feet from their house."

But of course OOZZzzhole won't give a crap.. Facts be damned.

Walt

BTW OZZhole,, the sun is taking a nap. Something you fail to comprehend.

Oh... Yes... If your "ECO wind and solar" is supposed to be cheap,, then why in hell is it SO expensive?
It's "green" alright, in the form of "$$$$$$$$$" removed from suckers.

Gregory

Here's an idea for all to ponder... What to do with all the folks coming across the border that were once called illegals...

We have a perfectly good shelter that is hardly used... The juvenile hall!!! Bring those poor folks here for some Nevada County hospitality.

Todd Juvinall

"Renewable". This word has been co=opted by the eco's to mean what they want it to mean. I thought it meant you wear something out and then "renew" it to use. But they have changed it to mean a form of energy. Anyway, Walt has it right. The manufacture of the solar panels, windmills and other forms of items is never placed in the discussion by the eco-freaks. I once saw an analysis of a Hummer versus a Prius. Turns out the overall issues on "green" were in the favor of the Hummer. Why? Batteries and then their disposal. But the truth does not get told by the greens.

Gregory

"Renewables", except for hydropower, are also unreliables and so the grid requires backup power from the bad old fossil fuels, ready to go in a fraction of a second.

That's bloody expensive.

Don Bessee

Sounds like an America hater who is not reading the economic and jobs reports -

There’s a myth being sold to industrial and rural communities: the myth that we can stop the clock and turn it back,” he said in the kickoff speak. “It comes from people who think the only way to reach communities like ours is through resentment and nostalgia, selling an impossible promise of returning to a bygone era that was never as great as advertised to begin with.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/14/2020-pete-buttigieg-officially-launches-white-house-campaign/

;-)

Walt

Like your ECO buggy? Then you will just "love" this.
https://www2.greencarreports.com/news/1071391_life-after-death-what-happens-when-your-prius-battery-dies
"If the battery pack in your Toyota Prius dies before the end of its 150,000 (or 100,000) mile warranty, Toyota will replace it free of charge. But if your car is out of warranty, you join the 500 or so owners every month experiencing an expired nickel-metal-hydride battery pack. "

Then there is this........
https://www.hazardouswasteexperts.com/the-dark-side-of-the-hybrid-lead-acid-batteries/

Now my gas burning Chevy truck, with 175 thousand miles (and after 16+ years) is still going strong on the same power plant.

Again the ECO suckers got taken for a ride.

Paul Emery

Hey all you Christians out there on the RR Blog. Show me scripture that justifies this:


"An infuriated Houston police chief blew up Friday on Twitter after an 11-year-old girl was ordered to be deported without her family.

Chief Art Acevedo vented about the lack of human decency and “Nazis” enforcing laws following a story Thursday in the Houston Chronicle about the ordered deportation to El Salvador of Laura Maradiaga. Somehow the girl’s name was left off of court records when the family arrived for a hearing in Houston as part of their quest for asylum, according to her mother, Dora Alvarado.

“I feel bad because I don’t want to be separated from my family,” Laura said in Spanish at a news conference Thursday aired onHouston’s KHOU-TV. “I don’t want to be taken away from my mom.”

“This is heart-wrenching,” wrote Acevedo. “1,000 points of light? Family values? American values? Judeo-Christian values? If you’re a person of faith, speak out.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/laura-maradiaga-houston-police-chief-art-acevedo-deportation_n_5cb1259fe4b098b9a2d3e4d0

Gregory

That's a damn shame, Punch. If it doesn't get straightened out, maybe Mom will go back with her.

Bill Tozer

Truer words were never spoken.

“SARAH SANDERS: DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS ARE NOT ‘SMART ENOUGH’ TO UNDERSTAND TRUMP’S TAX RETURNS”

https://news.grabien.com/story-sarah-sanders-democrats-congress-are-not-smart-enough-unders

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 14 April 2019 at 02:24 PM

Somehow the girl’s name was left off of court records when the family arrived for a hearing in Houston as part of their quest for asylum, according to her mother, Dora Alvarado.


Really Palooka......you want to drag religion into the paperwork errors that occur so frequently in your beloved administrative state? Don’t embarrass yourself....well any more than usual!

I guess we should expect nothing less from the “Liar in Residence at Renanes Ruminations”!

Paul Emery

Just quoting from the local sheriff fish

"“This is heart-wrenching,” wrote Acevedo. “1,000 points of light? Family values? American values? Judeo-Christian values? If you’re a person of faith, speak out.”

Ozz

fish - Is Paul's name "Art Aceveda"? I believe the beloved police chief himself "drug religion" into the conversation. Would Jesus send the little girl back to El Salvador without her parents? Cynical hypocrites all of you who tout Christian principles.

walt- I'm not ignoring you by accident, I'm just ignoring you. No need for me to comment on articles you dug up from 2012.

scenes

Paul 'Wet Foot Dry Foot' Emery says: "Hey all you Christians out there on the RR Blog. Show me scripture that justifies this:"

Remember back in the day? I think it's a pic of Jeh Johnson trying to get the Governor of Arizona to let those poor kids go from her concentration camp.

https://www.latimes.com/resizer/8LfdNdHh-OwWyg_5Qhoqy4mmJ08=/1200x0/www.trbimg.com/img-53aba65b/turbine/la-na-ff-arizona-immig-20140626

The correct answer of course is to put up people in nice but restricted housing and then push them through a hearing in about a week followed by a free plane ride. Not many rooms needed if you turn around quickly.

No catch and release, although I'm really taken by the idea of building the detention facility on the southern side of the wall.

Don Bessee

Charity starts at home so protecting the living standards and job opportunities for the inner city and working poor of color is clearly protecting our own. Especially as the vast majority do not qualify for asylum. So why let them in at all?

Its in the law already -

Immigration law at 8 U.S.C. § 1225(b)(2) authorizes the secretary of DHS to return aliens who crossed the Mexican border back to Mexico while their asylum claims are processed. DHS is using that statutory authority.


;-)

Todd Juvinall

I want to know what the Druids say about it. Maybe Paul Emery could ask the goat divinity of sacrifice what should be done?

Gregory

Ozz

Punchy is the one who dragged in religion and scripture here.

"Hey all you Christians out there on the RR Blog. Show me scripture that justifies this"


It ain't scripture, it's immigration law. You both (Ozzie and Punchy" know that.

Bill Tozer

Finally Crenshaw responds to the dumb Hamas twit Omar with a nice calm rational video. And the Leftinistas went full Islamoterrorist on him. I can feel the love. At least the Grievance Mob stays true to form. What an insane dangerous vile lot.

Our Moral Puritans speak:

Talia Lavin, already making a name for herself asking why anyone should treat September 11th as "sacred," responded by calling Crenshaw "captain shithead."

“Freelance writer Rob Rousseau, apparently determined to elevate the conversation, decided to go after Crenshaw for his missing eye, tweeting, “You’re deliberately lying about what she said you eyeless fuck.”

“We need to clearly and unequivocally support Ilhan Omar. And Donald Trump, the President of these United States, is putting her life in danger on purpose,” she (Zelina Maxwell) told host Alex Witt. “It’s not like he’s accidentally doing this. He’s purposely and intentionally putting her life in danger.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/45953/wounded-war-vet-rep-dan-crenshaw-mocked-called-emily-zanotti?%3Futm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand


https://www.dailywire.com/news/45953/wounded-war-vet-rep-dan-crenshaw-mocked-called-emily-zanotti?%3Futm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand

Todd Juvinall

BillT, Crenshaw lost a eye in Afghanistan for that twit Omar and he is right on the mark about the ingrate. She should resign and return to help her people in repayment for America saving her sorry ass. I am fed up with these democrat whiners who cannot even say thanks. Get them outta here!

Don Bessee

Charity begins at home -

https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-firefighters-paint-home-of-blind-world-war-ii-veteran-89

;-)

Gregory

What I'm getting from the Ozzie and Punchy show is that if your heart is pure, you can ignore a Federal judge's order if you don't like it.

Yes?

Ozz

Bessie- "Immigration law at 8 U.S.C. § 1225(b)(2) authorizes the secretary of DHS to return aliens who crossed the Mexican border back to Mexico while their asylum claims are processed."

No it doesn't. Not even close. Show us where 8 U.S.C. § 1225(b)(2) says anything of the kind. This is the kind of snark you used time and again to try to create laws to shove your bogus morals down our throats. You were outed. But I guess you have no shame.

Don Bessee

Just virtue signaling word games from trolls @333 -

;-)

Don Bessee

Selfied to death and they still have glaciers as opposed to the global warming fallen narrative that snowflakes swear by, Al Gores track record on failed prognostication is epic -

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/destinations/2019/04/13/iceland-tourist-destination-boom-decline/3379260002/

;-)

Don Bessee

Tough times for lying sacks of trolls who wish it were not so, playdough or an etch a sketch?

https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2019/04/14/ca9-reinstates-trump-asylum-policy/

;-)

Bill Tozer

May Day in Nevada City. Why am I not surprised?

“In addition to the two co-sponsors of the event, also present will be Central Foothills Democratic Socialists of America and climate change activists Extinction Rebellion.”

https://yubanet.com/regional/may-day-event-to-honor-workers-of-nevada-county/


Paul Emery

Oh Oh George Todds bringing in the goats again.

Guess I gotta bring back the Todd archives. So much to choose from. I'm bored with this It makes Todd look like such an idiot but everybody already knows that.

Todd Juvinall

8 U.S.C. § 1225(b)(2)
Looks like OOZE is full of it and Bessie is correct.

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery | 14 April 2019 at 03:52 PM

Please do ring my astute words and comments back. It is so enlightening for all. But why do you deny your gat sacrificing days? Are you ashamed of your religion? You brought it p.

Bill Tozer

Todd @ 3:21 pm.

It all works in our favor. Let the radical extreme unhinged Dems rally around their Hamas supporters until the cows come home. It shows the Left’s true colors. It shows how far they have gone and lost their way.

It’s not Crenshaw’s tested in battle record as much as his calm reasoned demeanor. He is not one to raise his voice or get anywhere near hyperbole. He is a steady as you go type of person and will discuss issues in a respectful manner with anyone. Anyone. If they go after Crenshaw the mellow voice of reason, they will attack anyone who dares criticize their Sacred Cows.

It is worth repeating that the Leftists of today do not wish to debate nor win anyone over with ideas. They only want to destroy and destroy without mercy. No criticism allowed

Let the world see them as they are. Oh, we can bitch about having an anti-American anti-Semite ungraceful inbred whinny hater in Congress, but that’s about all. Let the Dems rally to her defense. Nadler just jumped in trying to explain what she really said, lol. One thing about the Dems is they will always rally around their dog piles of poop and stay with them right up to the prison doors. It’s all Trump’s fault.

As Nancy said, Omar is just too stupid to understand what she is saying. Now, talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

fish

Posted by: Ozz | 14 April 2019 at 03:02 PM

Oh......I see Gregory already addressed it! Please feel free to continue your empty headed babbling!

Walt

Nor worries OZZhole.. I expect nothing less from you. That's what cowards do. If you can't refute the facts, run and hide, and act like they never were said.
HELL! You can't even do simple math. Yet still back the belief 800,000 people come to the Yuba. And you expect anyone to believe your CRAP about AGW, when facts prove otherwise? Yes, it's best you stay silent while you get well tarred.
The more you yap, the more proof that can be dug up to feather you with. Yes, the hazards of being on the wrong side of reality.

Yaa, I would use a fake name too if I was as wrong on any given subject like you are. But that's what Proggys do.
It will be a fun day when we find out who's middle digit is up your skirt.

Walt

It's all good Emery, your favorite court says so.
https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2019/04/14/ca9-reinstates-trump-asylum-policy/
And the OOZZZhole is WRONG again!!!
"To deal with the growing humanitarian crisis on the southern border, President Trump’s Department of Homeland Security (DHS) implemented Migrant Protection Protocols, a policy requiring applicants for asylum to stay in Mexico while U.S. immigration courts consider their asylum claims.

Immigration law at 8 U.S.C. § 1225(b)(2) authorizes the secretary of DHS to return aliens who crossed the Mexican border back to Mexico while their asylum claims are processed. DHS is using that statutory authority."
https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2019/04/14/ca9-reinstates-trump-asylum-policy/

UUhhhh YES it DOES OZZwipe.

fish

Posted by: Ozz | 14 April 2019 at 03:02 PM

It should also be noted that people might be more favorably inclined to “correct the paperwork” in situations like this if Democrats hadn’t put the welcome mat out for another 1.5 million this year. Somebody out to tell this poor waif that she can just join the next horde of South American gate crashers if she needs to get back in!

And hey, I hear that Honduran and Guatemalan men treat teenaged girls with the highest degree of respect!

Ozz

Walt 4:18
Silent? Give me something contemporary to discuss. Articles buried on page 11, written in 2012 are not worthy of my time or contemplation.

"Walt- I'm not ignoring you by accident, I'm just ignoring you. No need for me to comment on articles you dug up from 2012."

Bill Tozer

Justice for Palestine protestors interrupt Spartacluz’s rally.

“We can’t allow them to divide us and we must also resist the urge to divide ourselves because the people on my block ... and folks all across the country can’t wait,” Booker said, adding, “They can’t afford a politics of division that sacrifices progress for purity.”

Oh bother, Corey. You sound exactly like Obama a couple of days ago. It’s not the right out there dividing you or “us”. It’s your own party going cannibalistic. That is what you and yours have created. Can’t say “All lives matter” anymore and now you can’t say “Justice for All”, roflmao. This is getting good. Just tell them that there is no such place as Palestine. It does not exist. That will get you some cred and some much needed publicity.

https://news.yahoo.com/cory-booker-2020-newark-200213952.html

Walt

Still works.. Not my fault you can't deal with it. The facts haven't changed just because the calendar did.
And you have a turncoat on your hands!
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/04/14/cher-los-angeles-cant-take-care-of-its-own-how-can-it-take-care-of-more-immigrants/
Looks like Cher just turned Republican.
"Pop icon Cher said Sunday that Los Angeles, California, “can’t take care of its own” residents, much less newly arrived illegal and legal immigrants.
Cher said she failed to understand how the city of Los Angeles in the sanctuary state of California could afford to admit and take care of any more immigrants when city officials have failed to care for homeless, veterans, and poverty-stricken Americans.

I Understand Helping struggling Immigrants,but MY CITY (Los Angeles) ISNT TAKING CARE OF ITS OWN.WHAT ABOUT THE 50,000+Citizens WHO LIVE ON THE STREETS.PPL WHO LIVE BELOW POVERTY LINE,& HUNGRY? If My State Can’t Take Care of Its Own(Many Are VETS)How Can it Take Care Of More,” Cher said."

Don Bessee

AS if anyone cares @437! LOL

;-)

Ozz

"The State Department of Parks and Recreation survey for the South Yuba River followed the normal procedure for surveying recreation use. Their estimate of numbers of visitors to the Yuba (600,00 to 700,00) seems quite reasonable in comparison to the figure of 500,000 visitors to the North Fork of the American."

Tahoe National Forest Wild and Scenic River Study Report (page E-113) 1999

I provide documented facts and all the Ruminants can do it is blow it out their butts and moo, "Not so, not so. I don't believe it" Time to show us your numbers. Todd, I'm calling your claim of only 50,000 (the same (unverified) number CABPRO came up with in 1998 - no increase in visitors since then??)

Walt

No OOZzzhole. over 2000 people A DAY don't visit the river.
Like I said. You can't do simple math. Where are they today?
Yesterday? Are all the motels full?
Again your horse shit buries you.

Ozz

Walt-

The parking lots were full, with cars up both sides of the road at Bridgeport yesterday and probably today. Herds of flower watchers (guided tours even) and kayakers. Guess you don't get out much. At least you could check out Instagram before making a buffoon of yourself.

Show me some stats. I'm not interested in your opinion.

Bill Tozer

Oh, this is getting better. Conspiracy theories! This one has me rolling. Where do they find these skid marks?

.Shahid claimed that billionaires were secretly trying to "defame and destroy the character of Ilhan Omar" because they want to protect themselves from being taxed more and they don't want people to get healthcare.”

There is more, roflmao. Unbelievable. Blame Fox News.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/45955/cnn-former-ocasio-cortez-staffer-claim-conspiracy-ryan-saavedra
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Now the baboon is peddling her conspiracy theories. My, she looks like she is ready to suck the chrome off a trailer hitch. Nasty Woman.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/45881/nasty-kamala-harris-blames-nra-endangering-hank-berrien?%3Futm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro

Bill Tozer

Report from 1999? Wow, that is pretty lame. As a stalker sock puppet would say, “2012? Not interested”. Try to get something from this century. 1999? Oh my.
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Now Spartacluz is going off the rails. What a fine clown car the Dems have this year.

https://www.facebook.com/PatriotByNatureConservativeByChoice/photos/a.323154874415759/2321377634593463/?type=3&theater&ifg=1

Walt

Instagram... LOL!!! Yup,, there is the story teller.
I say your full of CRAP!! You have been posting all day. NOT out driving the back roads.
Yes, over 2000 people a day, every day will have to be there, 365 days. Not happening. First off, there is nowhere near enough parking. That's a fact. People work for a living. So no 2000 people on a Tues., let alone a WED.

So only the likes of you will still try and sell that load of crap.
Just like your AGW BS. Hawaii should be devoid of ANY snow... The globe has been warming... Remember? And down near the equator it should be getting a hell of a lot hotter, faster.
Even D.C. ..... Remember? "Snow is to be a thing of the past real soon." That was stated 20 damned years ago. How's that work'n for ya'?
But hey,, believe what you like. Your entitled to your opinion,, no matter how wrong you are.
DAMN... Good thing you hide behind a sock puppet. All credibility would be lost if you said who you really are.

So pictures of overflowing parking lots from the tourist masses will be forthcoming tomorrow night? And time and date stamps will do.

Ozz

Bill - your people keep asking where the 700,000 visitors number came from (with some wild claims as to who thunk it up). This is the source. It's called history. A point in time reference. You can disallow the number if you wish, but don't bother to claim that some other number is more valid unless you can back it up with better than an opinion.

Walt

WOW OOZZZborn,, you should be on stage! Your a barrel of laughs.
All of a sudden you want to site "history", yet deny it earlier.
You know,, my "old" facts. The ones you ignored.
No missing you around town.. Your the one with the BIG "L" on your forehead.
Good job. And BTW.. That 700,000, revised up to 800,000,, that was already posted. I guess you don't read either.

Walt

I have to go through the Yuba river canyon to go to a job tomorrow, so I guess my trip to and from will be counted as two visits. LIB math? The extra two axles on the trailer will count as another vehicle with four people? You and yours love to make up numbers, so why in hell not??,,, right? It makes for good marketing.

Todd Juvinall

OOZE keeps repeating the original fictitious numbers of SYRCL from the 90's. You can't fix stupid apparently and OOZE is truly a moron.

Ozz

Walt 6:68
"You have been posting all day. NOT out driving the back roads."

What makes you think I might have been "driving the back roads"? I'm sorry the official visitor record doesn't reconcile with your advanced statistical analysis. For someone who so vehemently believes the record is wrong, you are desperately lacking for an alternative set of figures beyond the back of a match book.

And what's this about the weather in Hawaii? What does that have to do with climate or the price of tea in China for that matter? Last year you were all agog with news about a Hawaiian volcano. Was that "climate" related too?

fish

What makes you think I might have been "driving the back roads"? I'm sorry the official visitor record doesn't reconcile with your advanced statistical analysis. For someone who so vehemently believes the record is wrong, you are desperately lacking for an alternative set of figures beyond the back of a match book.


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Paul Emery

The numbers are not from the 90's Todd. Yhey are from the Board of Supervisors and State Parks. You have no memory but if you did you would remember that we went through this in detail a few months ago.

Walt

You go guys!! The "official" number is statistically IMPOSSIBLE.
But our Proggys don't care about pushing fiction.
Who cares if they can't prove it?
Kinda like their AGW claim.. Snow where it shouldn't be,, if they were even close to being right. More pesky details to be ignored.

So... Hows that Russian investigation going against Trump?
That Muller report is really going to sink Trump...Uh,,,, Right??
Two years of just "knowing" your right, then finding out you ain't,, your collective butts could replace a nuke plant for the foreseeable future.

Yup. We have seen how LIB "facts" have turned to fiction.
Those "walls closing in", sure did. But not on Trump.
Now your LIB pals are pissing themselves in fear of the indictments coming down. You know,, when spying isn't really spying.

Todd Juvinall

The numbers are from the 90's and I was there listening to them. I am correct and the way they were extrapolated by SURCL was bogus. But the NGO's and bureaucrats are so lazy hey just keep repeating the lie. Just like Paul Emery.

Ozz

Walt-
"The "official" number is statistically IMPOSSIBLE."

Ha! Ha! Ha!!!! You have a way with numbers Walt.
Sounds like you got the same grade school "education" Juvinall did. Like my statistics teacher always said, "Show us your work."

Todd Juvinall

Walt is correct.

Ozz

Todd 7:42
Show us your work. Weren't you on the BOS when they accepted this number?

scenes

I don't have much of a dog in this fight (and it's a ridiculous argument to have on a regular basis, but anything to disrupt a blog, right?), but I did like this quote:

"Community Advocacy Continues for Bridgeport Bridge Project
Nevada County’s historic Bridgeport Covered Bridge welcomes approximately 700,000 California State Parks visitors annually, attracting a healthy tourism economy to Nevada County. "

https://mynevadacounty.com/CivicSend/ViewMessage/message/60303

That's a lot of visitors to a bridge.

No doubt there are real economic reasons, fight for budgets if nothing else, for overestimates. I guess if everyone overestimates it all comes out in the wash.

The real message here is that everyone's 'facts' are really just a game of Telephone played on the internet. A requoted (over and over and over) '700,000' number. No publication of raw data or gathering methodology so far as I can tell. You can see how something that is patently false gets loose and becomes a 'fact' over time. If it suits your purposes, it's true.

Todd Juvinall

I was not on the BOS I was running CABPRO. If one looks at the transcripts of those hearings one can see the fictitious way the numbers were put forward. And they are made from whole cloth. Just a practical side. Since there are no toilets to speak of, 700,000 people generate 35 TONS of human waste. Where is it? Also they would drop quite a few tons of garbage which when picked up every year is not indicative of the huge turnout alleged. And what about the costs? Sheriff, rescuers of idiots and even the helicopter. Who pays? Oh the taxpayers. And where are those benefits to local business? Doesn't happen. They buy their stuff and bring it in. So the SYRCL jerks use the number they created to try and tell us all how important the Wild and Scenic designation is to us. But the truth is it is not.

Ozz

Weeping Todd 8:19-
"there are no toilets to speak of"
There are year 'round flush and well maintained Porta Potties at every improved river access point. There are also trash bins. Open your eyes Magoo.

Why no garbage? SYRCL volunteers pick up trash at trailheads each week, river monitors pick up trash at over 50 sites monthly, and SYRCL organizes a community trash pickup event annually (with nearly 700 volunteers). What does Todd Juvinall do: Whine about about the lack of trash.

You spout your nonsense vinegar enough times and hope somebody believes you. You will continue until you die and be remembered as a very sour man.

Scenes-8:00 "No publication of data. . . " There are reams if you bother to look. Starter page-
https://www.parks.ca.gov/pages/795/files/15-16%20Statistical%20Report%20FINAL%20ONLINE.pdf

Todd Juvinall

OOZE, no there are not. You just make it up. And your reading skills are truly in need of help. But you trolls are not that smart.

Gregory

The "reams of data" Ozz/Jeff promises at the link I originally provided isn't reams... "Yuba River" appears just once, associated with the following data:
200,921 (paid attendance, probably derived from parking revenue)
495,205 (unpaid attendance)
0 (the number camping)
696,126 (total)

That isn't data, that's the final results. How many people in each car that paid for parking... an estimate... times the number of cars that paid. How were the half million people estimated... does it include cars driving by on the 49? Does it include suicides of folks jumping off the Yuba River bridge in the night?

Those are the numbers that were to be shown. Seven hundred thousand was an early handwaved estimate and this is its backup. Yep, 700k. Yessiree Bob!

Gregory

Dividing the money collected by the number of people claimed as paid attendance, leads to 53 cents per person.

Wow! What a bargain!

Since the fees for parking at Bridgeport are $5 a day to $10 a day for the summer months, the range of people per car might be between 9 and 19. Either really big cars or small people who don't mind being really close to others.

Or Clowns!

Gregory

Now, if my wife and I decide to get into the car and drive down to Bridgeport on a pleasant June day, we'd be paying $5 apiece for the couple of hours at the "park"... ten times the average rate for paid visits.

scenes

"That isn't data, that's the final results. "

Hah. Beat me to it. And the final number is? 700,000. For just about anything. Douglas Adams had it wrong.

It's a great thought experiment to think about how to estimate visitor usage short of constant satellite surveillance. I think Todd has something there with the human waste deal.

Instrument the bejeepers out of one park, measure the human waste resulting. From then on, you just have to weigh shit. Brilliant.

Bill Tozer

“I don’t have much of a dog in this fight (and it's a ridiculous argument to have on a regular basis, but anything to disrupt a blog, right?)”

Spot on Scenes. Ozz is just a stalker obsessed with Todd. Wherever Todd goes, Ozzz follows. Obsessed, I tell ya. Creepy. Ozz spends his days following Todd trying to bait him, goad him.

I suppose the 700,000....now 800,000 number is necessary to inflate the numbers to get some State monies coming in, considering all the competitor for dollars. Lying...er...exaggeration....is ok if for a good purpose? Trust us, lol.

Think it is more like the annual bird survey. Go out one day a year and count birds at various spots and extrapolate from that day the entire bird population for hundreds of thousands of acreage. The honor system. I suppose it you went out in pairs, there might be some double counting.

Which brings me to Walt’s question. How many people will drown in the river this year? One has already drowned. If it is one per every 100,000, I would say 7-8. If it is one out of every 10,000, I would say 70-80. Now, if we get a big heat wave in early June, maybe
7 this year. Hopefully they will be from Frisco or Santa Cruz or government contractors. My guess will be the usual four.

Bill Tozer

Time for Daily Quotes. Tax Day, and those Hamas Supporters in Congress. Corey “I Am Spartacluz” Booker’s quote is my favorite.

The Gipper: “We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much.” —Ronald Reagan

For the record: “Tax Day is always bad because Americans are overtaxed. But this Tax Day, we can celebrate the fact that an overwhelming majority of people are being taxed less, thanks to the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which Republicans passed in late 2017. No fewer than four out of every five taxpayers saw a reduction thanks to the law.” —Washington Examiner editorial board

Braying Jackass: “[President Trump is] trying to pit Americans against each other and make us less safe.” —Cory Booker on Trump’s pitch to dump illegals in sanctuary cities

Friendly fire: “[Ilhan Omar’s] statements were not only hurtful to me but extremely hurtful to everyone that was personally impacted by those terrorist attacks. No one should refer to what happened on 9/11, with terrorist attacks that killed thousands of Americans, as ‘something by some people.’ And that’s what was wrong with those statements.” —Democrat Rep. Ben Ray Lujan

—Non compos mentis I: “I saw nothing wrong with the congresswoman’s speech.” —Rep. Bennie Thompson

—Non compos mentis II: “I’ve had some problems with some of her other remarks, but not with that one.” —Rep. Jerry Nadler

Braying Jenny: “We must confront that our nation was founded by genocide and we maintain global power through neocolonialism.” —Rep. Ilhan Omar, August 2017

Alpha Jackass: “In 2018, right-wing extremists were behind almost ALL US domestic terrorist killings. Why don’t you go do something about that?” —Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to veteran Rep. Dan Crenshaw, who lost in eye defending this country from jihadis

Intraparty squabble: “That’s like five people.” —House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on AOC and her contingent’s influence within the Democrat Party

For how long? “I don’t trust Barr. I trust Mueller.” —Nancy Pelosi

Delusions of grandeur: “Our children shouldn’t go to school worried they will have to run for their lives from an active shooter. We need leaders who will stand up to the NRA and fight to keep our kids safe from gun violence.” —Sen. Kamala Harris

And last… “Bernie Sanders defending getting rich from writing a book is just a reminder that, despite what people say, no one is actually against Capitalism.” —Frank J. Fleming

Don Bessee

Virtue signaling, tinfoil hat wearing bubble brains !

Anti-vaccine parents are often white, college-educated, ‘Whole Foods moms’

https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article229263944.html

;-)

Bill Tozer

AOC says the “crisis” at the border is caused by Climate Change, specifically the drought down in El Salvador that has wiped out crops and people have no food to eat. Ok, let’s see how Central America is surviving the drought and crop devastation.

https://patriotpost.us/opinion/62337-a-few-comments-on-aocs-climate-blame-game?fbclid=IwAR1PlitzkIWSDjZEujRLygOotIM8osUAGXC23HSKF9ysPv9co82k4G-GQpk

Bill Tozer

Correction to my 10:42 am: there is no crisis at the border. Trump made it all up.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/what-border-crisis.php

Don Bessee

MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MOOONIIEEEEE!

Trump campaign raises $30 million in first quarter
The president's committee already has $40.8 million in the bank for the 2020 election.

The Republican National Committee also brought in $45.8 million in the first quarter, according to the Trump campaign, bringing its cash reserves close to $41 million.

Trump filed campaign finance paperwork to run for reelection earlier than any other president, and he has been raising and spending money through his campaign committee since soon after he took office in 2017.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/14/trump-2020-fundraising-first-quarter-1274439

;-)

Gregory

Here's the money quote from the sacbee story db linked:

Medical experts insist there's no scientific debate on the efficacy of vaccines: The CDC and the National Institutes of Health stipulate that childhood vaccinations save lives.

Doctors don't mince words about anti-vaxxers.

"Frankly, these Caucasian, suburban, educated parents believe they can Google the word vaccine and get as much information as anybody," said Paul Offit, a professor of pediatrics and director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.

"These people are educated just well enough to make terrible decisions for their children."

Those people are also educated just well enough to parrot the alarmists' call for climate action, and to bang the drums proclaiming Trump's Russia conspiracy where the Trump '16 campaign actively colluded with Boris and Natasha affecting the ballot counting in Frostbite Falls, MN.

Walt

Hummm... 2000 people at the river today? Good luck with that.
I know... 4000 will be there tomorrow.

As for OOzzzz's AGW,
https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/one-of-the-snowiest-days-in-late-april-in-history-whitens-chicago/70007987

Just weather..... Right?

Don Bessee

Yes they did! We know who are the nay sayers , they have the nauseating smell of rancid Russian dressing clocking them -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/15/donald-trump-astonished-by-positive-tax-cut-report-in-very-fake-new-york-times/

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2019/04/15/trump-cut-taxes-most-americans-hardly-anyone-believes-it/

;-)

Don Bessee

@138 that should be cloaking auto correct &*(#$
==================================================

So why does the tail of 5 wag the dog?

Politics
Pelosi: AOC’s Progressive Faction Is ‘Like Five People’

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pelosi-aoc-progressive-faction-five-141924979.html

;-)

Don Bessee

Dirty deeds -

A federal judge Monday ordered the detention of Yujing Zhang, the Chinese woman arrested trying to enter President Donald Trump’s private Mar-a-Lago club.
“It does appear to the court that Ms. Zhang was up to something nefarious,” Magistrate Judge William Matthewman said at the federal courthouse in West Palm Beach, adding that he considered Zhang, 33, a flight risk and believed she would return to China if released before trial.
Matthewman said the weight of the evidence against Zhang — who pleaded not guilty Monday to charges of making false statements to federal officers and entering restricted property — is “quite strong.” Prosecutors had asked to keep her locked up.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article229267494.html

;-)

Bill Tozer

Green Madness in Minnesota, yah.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/green-madness-in-minnesota.php

Bill Tozer

More on Omar...er.....CAIR. Good link within the link.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/how-and-why-hamas-founded-cair.php

Don Bessee

The masters of the universe screw it up again -

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/04/15/google-ai-made-wrong-call-flagged-video-of-notre-dame-fire-as-9-11-conspiracy/

;-)

Don Bessee

Thank God a miracle for Easter -

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/04/15/report-crown-of-thorns-works-of-art-saved-from-notre-dame-blaze/

;-)

Don Bessee

Cue star wars music -

The crowded field of 2020 Democratic presidential candidates is showing early signs of money trouble as donors sit on the sidelines to see how the contest unfolds, signaling a drawn-out primary battle lies ahead.

The Democratic campaign comes into greater focus on Monday as declared White House hopefuls report their first quarter fundraising totals. Early glimpses provided by some of the more than one dozen declared candidates show that Democrats are raising less money than they have in previous cycles and are coming up short against the campaign bank account President Donald Trump is building.

Democrats collectively raised about $70 million since January, according to the candidates who have already released their fundraising totals. That’s less than the $81 million Democrats raised during the same period in 2007, the last time the party had an open primary, according to data from the Federal Election Commission. And it pales in comparison with the $30 million Trump raised during the first quarter.

http://www.dailyjournal.net/2019/04/15/us-election-2020-democrats-fundraising-3/

;-)


Walt

The gun grabbers count gun incidents like the river rats count visitors.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/15/gabby-giffords-org-study-dozens-of-incidents-where-guns-did-literally-nothing-to-anyone/

Now did they plant guns hoping kids would find them?
"The study is titled, “Every Incident of Mishandled Guns in Schools.” It opens with 31 incidents in which guns were allegedly left in places in campus where they were discoverable by students by students or others. No shots were fired in 30 of the 31 incidents and, in the incident where the shot was fired, it was the result of an elementary school student pulling the trigger on a holstered gun carried by a police officer."

Don Bessee

The Prez gave coverage to allow them to tell the truth -

The head of the Norwegian Armed Forces’ operational headquarters (FOH) has admitted that as a result of failing to upgrade the country’s military, Norway would not be able to defend itself in an attack.
Speaking to Norway’s state broadcaster NRK, Lieutenant-General Rune Jakobsen said, “If there is an attack in the classical sense, then we do not have the robustness that is necessary [to defend ourselves].”

“The most serious issue is the size of the land,” Lt Gen Jakobsen said. “Reactivity, robustness, and endurance in all branches of defence are too low, and to be concrete: The army is too small in relation to the tasks it has and what is expected of Norway and in NATO.”

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/04/15/nato-member-norway-admits-it-cannot-defend-itself/

;-)

Don Bessee

WOW, did not see this one coming but the chi coms know we, the suni and Israel are on the march against those mutha mullas. Its bad for their business and encroaches on the trade negotiations. So sorry little country, we got to cover our own ass -

Author Yin Gang, identified as a research fellow at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, predicts in his column that President Donald Trump will not stop pressuring Iran and its economy if it does not withdraw from the international stage. Yin goes on to argue that America is not the only problem Iran has to face, saying, “Iran is isolated in the Middle East,” and its neighbors agree that it is a regional threat.

“IRGC’s Quds Force’s support to the Houthis, an anti-government force in Yemen, and the Hezbollah movement in Lebanon could not be tolerated by the US and its allies in the Middle East,” Yin writes. “Arab nations and Israel have lauded the US’ move on IRGC.”
Yin goes on to accept what the Iranian government denied for some time: that sanctions on its oil industry in response to its alleged illegal nuclear weapons development, which were lifted in the aftermath of the 2015 nuclear deal and restored last year, will have a devastating effect on the Iranian economy.

“Tehran’s strategy is to outlast Trump’s presidency until 2020 and then hope that he loses the elections, but the US president will not give Iran so much time,” Yin writes. Acknowledging that President Donald Trump is seeking to limit Iran’s military influence and arguing that conceding to Washington will soothe some of the pressure, Yin suggests yielding to America.

“In recent years, Iran’s strong presence in Yemen and Syria has triggered panic in the Arab world and Israel. If Iran adopts a prudent policy of strategic retreat, war and severe internal turmoil could be avoided,” the article reads. “But if it continues to be intransigent, the denouement would be hard to imagine.”

“With little prospect of a thaw between Washington and Tehran in the future, tensions are likely to rise. A better choice for Iran to deal with the situation is a strategic retreat in Yemen and Syria,” the piece recommends.

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2019/04/15/chinese-state-media-urges-iran-consider-strategic-retreat-syria/

;-)

Bill Tozer

It’s about time

Leftists Demand That All Criticisms Of Trump Cease Until He Stops Getting Death Threats

https://babylonbee.com/news/leftists-demand-that-criticisms-of-trump-cease-until-he-stops-getting-death-threats?%3Futm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro

Ozz

Todd 2:19
"I was a builder like Trump and morons like OOZE have been buying them and flipping them ever since to make their quick bucks."

I detect a bit of latent hostility towards those of us who used our brains and turned houses to efficiently make some bank instead of being a butt monkey dealing with subs, permits, weather, time lines, bids, port-a-potties . . .

As they say, work smarter, not harder. But for some people that isn't possible.

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