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08 April 2019

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Ozz

Pollinate with native Mason (Osmia) bees that fly at 48f rather than the 55f required by European honeybees. They are flying when the first manzanitas bloom in mid February. They are many times more potent pollinators than honey bees. You can order Mason bees online to head start your colony or set up tubes in milk cartons and they will naturally develop their own colony. They are not aggressive (plus) but they don't make honey (minus). These are the bees that fill every available 1/4 inch hole with red mud.

George Rebane

Muchas gracias Mr Ozz.

Bill Tozer

Ah, the cultural revolution comes to North America. The jump from “disagreement” to “hater” at the drop on the hat. From hamburger to homicide at the speed on light.
The Christchurch shooter wrote a 67 page manifesto with a one single reference to Trump and the unhinged race over here to say it’s all our fault, lol. It’s Trump’s fault. Candice Owens recently got called a White Supremacist, again! And today a Mexican woman was called a racist by an out of control white liberal for wearing a MAGA hat.

There are many causes. I feel that having a monolithic view point in the public and higher education system has never exposed young people to any ideas that do not toe the party line. Then if they watch the media or turn on the tube or computer, that same monolithic world view is reinforced again, assuming that over 90% of the news and social media are taken from the same talking points. They are never challenged, thus an arrogance settles in the bubble and the bubble becomes an echo chamber. They have no tools to deal with contrary views.

Another cause is with the old class envy morphing into Identity Politics, everything becomes personal. Identify Politics and intersectionality turns everything, even existential affairs, into the personal. Work, play, home, politics, everything becomes 24/7 personal and all aspects of life become one. Even shopping at the grocery store. Everything is now subjective and subservient to the subjective. No longer your truth, my truth, and The Truth. Nay, the truth becomes viewed solely through Identity Politics, which is personal. And if you disagree, then you must be destroyed or labeled subhuman....because if you don’t agree with them, you are a threat to their entire worldview.....which makes it personal because all now is personal. There is zero space for any other way.

Another underlying cause is the overwhelming and uncontrollable need to sit on the throne. Not to be God-like, but too replace God. To control everything. Power without authority.

Of course, there are more causes to the current ugliness. It is not new in historical terms, not by any means. Here is a link, not the best link,...but touches on the topic.

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/four-reasons-youre-hater-has-become-fashionable-slander

Steven Frisch

I am flattered that you would take my comments to heart and repeat them here.

The fact is , much as you deny it, to anyone reading your comment history, as I have for more than 10 years, who is not already in your camp, you appear to be a racist, Islamophobe, conspiracy theorist, separatist, and generally nasty piece of work.

I am not ashamed of calling open racism and thinly veiled white supremacy out when I see it.

George Rebane

StevenF 932am - Excellent! Then we both agree that the record of these pages speaks for itself (your regularly contributed advisories excepted).

Scott O

Steve F - "I am not ashamed of calling open racism and thinly veiled white supremacy out when I see it."
Oh, of course not! Name calling without facts or evidence is the go-to for you lefties. As I've pointed out, if there was a return in kind, you'd blow a gasket and hire a lawyer.

Steven Frisch

Scott the record is replete going back more than 10 years of calling out the logic of George's positions and what many perceive as outright racism, with facts, direct quotes, examples, and other information.

The bottom line is when two world views are so diametrically opposed no "side" is going to see the other sides case a viable or evidence based.

I have faith that the vast majority of readers not regularly visiting this page will see the truth.

Todd Juvinall

However, we know that SBC and you refuse to hire minority women of color as you whine about others. GeorgeR probably hired many people of color in his life so it looks like you are the racist hypocrite Frischie.

George Rebane

Re SteveF's claim that I "once wrote a column for a newsletter that featured a cover of the Völkischer Beobachter on their front cover". I'm not aware of any such column or newsletter. Perhaps I could be reminded. And then I wonder if publications such as the various news magazines that from time-to-time have featured images of 'Mein Kampf', 'The Communist Manifesto', and other such collectivist exhortations on their covers, if all their contributors are also now tainted forever, as I seem to be in the eyes of the hyper-PC crowd.

Steven Frisch

Posted by: George Rebane | 09 April 2019 at 10:56 AM


CABPRO George, I can probably find the Völkischer Beobachter cover artwork they used if I dig into old external hard drives.

Todd Juvinall

I thought there was a swastika image on the SBC newsletter?

Todd Juvinall

Trump approve 53, dis 45 up eight. Where is Emery?

George Rebane

StevenF 1101am - But your claim was that I wrote a column for some such newsletter. And I assume that both the newsletter and my column were worthy of condemnation by the assiduously auto-anointed moral guardians of the Left of which you are a practicing member in good standing.

AVman

Cabpro,,,

https://jeffpelline.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/screen-shot-2014-04-29-at-10-29-27-pm.png?w=840

Todd Juvinall

Photoshopped

Todd Juvinall

It appears the picture was photoshopped. I was long gone from the organization but looking at the issue on the FUE's blog the articles were about what could happen or were mocking this. So it looks like BS again.There was a picture of the folks of Gilligan's Island next to a Malaysian plane that had gone missing. That should inform anyone of the issue's points.

Paul Emery

That's on the flawed Rasmussen Poll Todd that was 9 points off the mark in the last election. Sorry, I know you had you hopes up. It will all be over soon.

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 09 April 2019 at 11:58 AM

It will all be over soon.


……good to see one so comfortable with his inevitable end!

George Rebane

re SteveF and AVman - CABPRO, a fascist newsletter??!! These guys no longer have any self-respect for either their intellect or ethics. And no doubt they have good reason for having abandoned both.

Gregory

Perhaps someday FiveThirtyEight will ignore and denounce Rasmussen, following Punchy's lead, but that is not today.

I'm trying to get my head around Frisch's denouncement of Rebane's views as "open racism and thinly veiled white supremacy".

I can't say I see either here, but in general folks who are openly racist don't veil their white supremacy. It's all or nothing.

Here, it's nothing.

Now, looking at the smiling faces of Sierra Business Council staff, and board
http://sierrabusiness.org/who-we-are/people/staff
http://sierrabusiness.org/who-we-are/people/board

I've never worked in any office, or attended any school, that was so f'ing lilly white. How do you find them, Steven? Do you come here to insult Rebane and Company in order to draw attention away from yourself?

Paul Emery

Oh yes, the inevitable end-no more Orange Pussy Grabber in the White House.

Gregory

So, by AVman's citation... a photoshoped parody of a CABPRO cover is behind Frisch's claim of George having written a column for a NAZI loving newsletter.

Makes perfect sense... much like NBC newsreaders joking about Sarah Palin saying she could see Russia from her house. The power of humor to displace reality in the minds of folks who want to believe it.

AVMan

,,,George, Gregory,,,speak for yourselves!!! I only tried to find the image SteveF was referring to!!!

Robert Cross

The actual Sarah Palin quote is, "“They’re our next-door neighbors. And you can actually see Russia, from land, here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.”
the " I can see Russia..." quote came from SNL with was based on an interview with Katie Couric:

Couric: “You’ve cited Alaska’s proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?”

Palin: “That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia…”

Couric: “Well, explain to me why that enhances your foreign-policy credentials?”

Palin: “Well, it certainly does, because our, our next-door neighbors are foreign countries, there in the state that I am the executive of . . . . It’s very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia. As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border. It is from Alaska that we send out those to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia…”

Talk about stupidity...and trump isn't any better.

Paul Emery

To put things in perspective using Rasmussen as an example in Jan 2017 Trump had a +13 44% polling in the approval index-strongly approve . The last polling on Monday was -3% 33% polling. That's a decline of 16%. Sorry to rain on your parade Todd and Gregory but those are the numbers. Here's a link. Go to Jan 26 '17 Strongly Approve and compare it with yesterday.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history

scenes

"I can't say I see either here, but in general folks who are openly racist don't veil their white supremacy. It's all or nothing."

I always thought that East Asians were the smart ones. Go figure.

Todd Juvinall

CrossThread 146, I see nothing to mock on Palin. You are just a misogynist.

Paul Emery 148 You have no standing on polls though you cite them if they somehow enhance your position. Seems not that long ago when Rasmussen had Trump down you were citing them as a good source for that. Go back to bed, you are just a crank today.

Gregory

"Robert Cross"

Yes, I know what the genesis of the Tina Fey line was, but David Gregory, hosting Meet the Press, said "I can see Russia from my house" as representing Palin-speak.

"Punchy"
Your perspective is off. The lies (and they were lies) about Russia and Trump being one and the same were driving down Trump's polls starting from before the inauguration. That's over now.

Perhaps the Dems will find a gem in their free for all primary season shaping up, but it appears it will be a race to the bottom as they all vie for the position as the leftmost, or the Biden. Pick one.

Todd Juvinall

Excellent points!

Gregory

For stupidity, it's hard to beat this open microphone gem:

Mr Obama retorts: "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility."

And Mr Medvedev finishes: "I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir [Putin]."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/9167332/Barack-Obama-microphone-gaffe-Ill-have-more-flexibility-after-election.html

Paul Emery

Trump is down 16% since Jan '17 in your favorite poll Todd. So sad for you. Trump will ruin the Republican party nationally just like he did in California.

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 09 April 2019 at 02:36 PM

Trump will ruin the Republican party nationally just like he did in California.


Well let's be honest Palooka……the California Republican Party was on its deathbed long before Trump came on the scene. Speaking of that how goes your bold plans to resurrect it……..making progress……exciting new Palooka Brand™ voter initiatives in the works?

Paul Emery

this is how bad Trump did in California fish

"Clinton won the state with 61.73% of the vote and a 30.11% margin, both the highest since Franklin D. Roosevelt's 66.95% vote share and 35.25% margin in 1936. This was also the first time Orange County voted Democratic since 1936, when Franklin D. Roosevelt swept every single county in the state. Trump's vote share in the state (31.62%) was the lowest for a major-party candidate since John W. Davis's 8.2% in 1924.

Gregory

Paul, we'll have to bundle up these words of your wisdom (pronounced whizz-dumb) for the next FCC review of KVMR's broadcasting licenses.

Have you said any such thing on the air? Do you think that serves the public interest?

If you have not said such things on the air, why would you write them here?

Paul Emery

Oh Gregory you steeping so low as to go after the messenger. Do you deny the 2:51 numbers?

Steven Frisch

Sorry Todd and George, the February 2014 CABPRO newsletter was not a joke...and it came out on February 14th 2014 so perhaps it was a love story.

However I do regret that I identified the photo on the cover as from the Völkischer Beobachter when it was actually from the NS-Frauen-Warte.

Gregory

Punchy 251pm

And how much more than 100% of the state's electors did that 62% buy Mrs. Clinton? And besides voting for LaMalfa, a guaranteed winner, why would a GOP voter show up to vote? Or a Libertarian or a Green for that matter.

For now, CA and NY are shoe-in's for any DEM candidate. If history is any guide to the future, that is guaranteed not to be permanent.

GOP voters are staying home without anyone they want in a contested election.

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 09 April 2019 at 02:51 PM


None of which answers my question! Are you now or have you ever been a guy who was just going to roll up his sleeves, kick some ass, and reconstitute the California Republican Party like you were caterwauling about a couple months ago?

Scott O

Frisch at 10:28 - "Scott the record is replete going back more than 10 years of calling out the logic of George's positions and what many perceive as outright racism, with facts, direct quotes, examples, and other information."
Wow - 10 years of dirt and he can't come up with a single quote or fact. Not one.
You may not follow the 'logic' of George's positions, but that hardly makes him a racist.
Heck - now the standard for racism is expecting folks to show up on time.
Good grief.

scenes

"this is how bad Trump did in California fish" and then some more words

The real lesson is that Trump utterly failed in California and yet he won the election (and only lost the popular vote by a couple of points). Any total vote advantage by the Crazy Drunk Lady can be more than accounted for in CA.

It's worth noting then that the average California voter is nothing like the average voter in the country generally. In a very real sense, California is no longer part of the USA. No MAGA for you.

So where's our free college education and single payer healthcare? The Sierra Business Non-profit Thingie needs to stop hiring so many white people and start working on getting the state government to get their minds right. Give the Left their own state and all you get is more homeless people.

Gregory

Regarding East Asians, yes, they're a bit smarter on average if one believes in IQ measurement (and you should), and they value education and work. Smart parents tend to find each other and to bear and rear smart kids.

That's just the way it is.

I suspect 2018 will be the apex of Democratic Party politics in California... it's downhill from there. There will be less money to spend by the state, more acrimony over spending what there is to spend, and less money flowing into public employee union coffers (about the only unions left) and into Democratic Party candidate election funds. There are no statewide Republicans to point at when it all goes south.

And that permanent drought we were in seems to have been washed away... let's see the Oroville Dam spillway do its stuff in a few weeks.

scenes

"I suspect 2018 will be the apex of Democratic Party politics in California."

At the risk of being repetitious, what I see is a fissioning of the party.

Lacking any real core, the special interest groups that make up CA Democratic politics will amp up their fighting over the carcass. There's not much in common between Los Angeles Hispanic power brokers and the saintly Sierra non-profits hanging around the espresso station.

fish

This is what the doughy putz is so frothed up over?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Völkischer_Beobachter


Great……the Nazis had their own "National Enquirer"…….big deal?


Or is it just that typing "Völkischer Beobachter" gives you the tingles?

George Rebane

StevenF 302pm - Do you really want to indelibly establish your reputation as a double dummy in these pages Steve??? What the hell is your point with all that CABPRO newsletter crap? Liberal logic has long ago lost its credentials; are you trying to take it even lower?

Paul Emery

Fish

It's not my job to invigorate the
Repubs. I was encouraging Todd to do so but he is too busy being a male hooker to do anything ac5tually useful.

Gregory writes:

"GOP voters are staying home without anyone they want in a contested election."

It's their job to find someone electable Gregory not mine. Thanks for agreeing with me about the demise of the Republican Party in California. Last time they found the Swartz-the "I will fix it " man. Go to work guys.

Scott O

Gregory - "Regarding East Asians, yes, they're a bit smarter on average if one believes in IQ measurement (and you should), and they value education and work."
Gasp!!!
Gregory - you're a WHITE SUPREMACIST!!!!
OK - sarc off. Really folks - this is what it's coming to.
There's this fixed line of thought by the left and if you vary off the mark by one single non-group-think or one single hate-thought, then you are cast out as a bad person.
And if you dare protest, your remarks are deemed 'dog whistle' racist words.
If you are not a leftist, there can only be one reason. And that is that you are a racist. Because surely, the left are against racism and if you are against them, then it follows you are a racist. And racists say racist things. So - whatever you say is racist.
And because you say racist things - then surely that is proof you are a racist. They have the files - ten years worth.
The founders of our nation are weeping.
But of course - they were all racist. Every one of them.

The Estonian Fox

GR at 11:13AM-
George, You can save a lot of space. Instead of saying that (StevenF 11:01AM) is a member of "the assiduously auto-anointed moral guardians of the Left', you should just use the arabic word 'mutaween', Islam’s morality police. Arabic for “the one who makes others obey”.

I knew there was a phrase with a similar cadence and meaning, and finally located it. There's a one-to-one correspondence of the translation of 'mutaween' to a line from the movie "Predator". El diablo que hace trofeos de los hombres - The demon who makes trophies of men. In either case, mutaween or Predator, it doesn't work out well for the person on the receiving end.

Don Bessee

Well if the frischy set ends up like the predator in the first movie it wont turn out good for them @608!

;-)

George Rebane

EestiR 608pm - Thanks.

Don Bessee

Well of course the anti-Semite jihadi is rewriting history , some people indeed! -

In 2007-8, CAIR was named an unindicted co-conspirator in the terror financing trial of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development. That case, in turn, led the FBI to discontinue its work with the organization. In 2009, a federal judge ruled that the government “produced ample evidence to establish” the ties of CAIR with Hamas, the Palestinian terror organization. The United Arab Emirates labeled CAIR a terrorist organization in 2014 (a decision that the Obama administration opposed).

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/09/ilhan-omar-cair-formed-because-muslims-were-targeted-after-some-people-did-something-on-9-11/

;-)

Scott O

Some people did something.
And then somehow millions of Jews went off on a train excursion and then stuff happened.
Can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs.
Some non-comformists didn't get with the program.
And where are all the mass graves?
But Trump is the left's big problem.
Because more non-whites are gainfully employed than ever.
That will just give them ideas.
Uh oh.
Looks like more stuff will have to happen.

Gregory

"It's their job to find someone electable Gregory not mine."


The Democrats are the one who jiggered elections to the Primary top two. That's what killed GOP and third party participation... in addition to the fact that Democratic Party unions treat elections as electing the bosses that determine their salaries, because that's what they are. A very corrupt process.

"Thanks for agreeing with me about the demise of the Republican Party in California."

Thanks for getting it wrong, again.

The GOP in California isn't dead. It's resting. The Dems will be fighting amongst themselves very quickly as they run out of Other People's Money and Global Warming doesn't happen as promised. With luck, the LIB party will be there to help pick up some of the pieces... if the top two bullcrap gets overturned.

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 09 April 2019 at 05:02 PM

Go to work guys.


Once a hippy always a hippy.......”Yeah....like you dudes should get to work on that.....hey, what happened to that weed that was here.......mannnnnnnn?”

Don Bessee

That's an F for botox nancy's cat herding skills -
If she keeps losing battles like this to the left of her conference and sizable numbers of members on both sides feel emboldened enough to take on the Speaker of their own party in battle–and they start winning those battles, as the left won this one–then they could start challenging her on many more things that they would normally let go.

With the rise of problematic members like Reps. Omar and Rashida Tlaib (D-MI)–both of whose repeated anti-Semitic remarks Pelosi failed to actually hold them accountable for–and others like Ocasio-Cortez, whose pie-in-the-sky socialism has rank-and-file so-called moderate Democrats freaking out, then Pelosi could be in for a wild ride from here. It’s notable that this first major blowup in her ability to pass legislation happened within 100 days of the new Congress starting–just 96 days in–so it remains to be seen what fight next leads to issues for Pelosi.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/09/100-days-into-2nd-speakership-nancy-pelosi-loses-control-of-house-floor-withdraws-budget-bill-before-vote/

;-)

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 09 April 2019 at 05:02 PM

Ok......so you were lying about being upset about the status of the California Republican Party.......that’s alright! It happens. Not everybody can live their principles......and hey......with the extra time you can work on those spelling challenges! What was it......two full months of posts here before you successfully spelled “gigolo”? I was surprised it took that long.....an infinite number of Emerys’ on an infinite number of keyboards you know!

Paul Emery

fish

I'm very upset about the status of the Repubs in California. There is only one thing worse than a two party system and that's a one party system. You guys need to get to work and offer some competition. Gonna be virtually impossible with Trump in there but things might improve when he gets ejected next year. For California Dems he's the gift that keeps on giving but all things change. Sad

Don Bessee

Yo, yo, yo, you po' ol' fakenewsman pray tell us about your failure to report the live time real world historic events? Drowning in the self talk teams guzzling watered down drinks to be trendy? Don't be schifty like the rotten apple nyt.


https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/04/09/new-york-times-declares-setback-for-netanyahu-as-he-wins-israeli-election/


Did you hear about the recent mass air, sea under/over exercises with the GCC with the dreaded Israelis oh great pony tail of ignorance? You socialist sucking guys hate Jews now ya all holocaust deniers. The new team on the block in the real world it is Sunnis, Jews and pragmatists against those (*&^$%^& mutha mullahs!

Somehow I think pony tail of ignorance was one of the idiots protesting Saint Ronnie as they beat the soviet into submission along with our friends like Pope JPII and Solidarity and people who really put their shit on the line behind the iron curtain.


;-)



Gregory

Punchy 1034pm

I call bullcrap on your claims of being upset with the state of the GOP in California.

In the spring/summer of 2016 you were positively giddy when we were face to face about the destruction of the opposition, and that the only issues you were going to have trouble with is how to re-educate them to retake their place in society.

Only they didn't lose the Presidency, they didn't lose the House, they didn't lose the Senate and they gained a majority on the SCOTUS that would interpret the words of the law and the Constitution faithfully.

Dems, as long as they hold to that old tyme religion of AGW, can't get along with others. That's just the way it is. They'll just have to get over it, and get over that HRC lost the good old fashioned way in '16, having a sucky message and a sucky campaign that even having a lockup of all media couldn't save.

Barry Pruett

Really Steve...You are resorting to calling George a racist?! That’s just silly.

scenes

BPruett: "Really Steve...You are resorting to calling George a racist?"

It seems to me it goes more like this:

1) Steve doesn't like George
2) 'Racist' is the absolutely worst thing he can call someone. In modern parlance, it's worse than being a murderer, swindler, kidnapper, or any other kind of rogue.
2a) The word 'vile'became quite common as of late, so keep an eye out.
3) It's really easy to be a 'racist' anymore. The definition has expanded as of late.

Therefore, Person X = racist is the perfect epithet. It's all part of a new public shaming culture that you get to do via remote control on the internet. No doubt Steve Frisch's endorphins flow like water when he types it.

Scott O

Paul is starting to panic.
"You guys need to get to work and offer some competition."
The 'competition' that Paul claims to desire would be things he would denounce in a heartbeat.
The Dems and the left have the demographics in the once-golden state they want - and it's growing ever more pervasive. And it's driving out the conservatives and Republicans. It isn't just the cost of living. It's the idea of having to support a lawless govt that undermines the rights of citizens.
Stop blaming it on Trump. This all started long ago.

Bill Tozer

New taxes for CA? Somebody has to pay for the 500 billion unfunded liabilities.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-skelton-soda-tax-20190408-story.html

Bill Tozer

Scott O @ 8:28 am

https://patriotpost.us/articles/62303-in-california-the-inmates-run-the-asylum?fbclid=IwAR3yDE8etejLd5XsLmQvdoyikx1-nVqL6vux2L8DCZ1Vyng2qocH2q2bvjQ

fish

fish

I'm very upset about the status of the Repubs in California. There is only one thing worse than a two party system and that's a one party system. You guys need to get to work and offer some competition. Gonna be virtually impossible with Trump in there but things might improve when he gets ejected next year. For California Dems he's the gift that keeps on giving but all things change. Sad


Yeah Palooka…..you might want to give some serious thought to moving to a state where there's some balance between the political parties……Texas maybe….at least while the balance lasts. I think you would like it there! After all…if the suggestion to move to where things are more to your liking is good enough for Todd it must be good enough for Punchy as well!

I on the other hand am perfectly content to remain in one party California watching the democrats and Green Libertarians™ continue their antics. I admit to feeling a bit like Jane Goodall watching the inter clan behavior of her favorite clutch of African gorillas……."look…..that grossly obese gorilla is attempting to mount that old gray chimp with the ponytail!"

Circle of life man!

fish

Posted by: Scott O | 10 April 2019 at 08:28 AM


Todays crop of Green Libertarians™ perceive time differently than we do Scott. Much like the French Revolution, Trump is Year 0! Everything starts with him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Zero_(political_notion)

Russell Steele

Interesting that NU enrollments have declined by 50% while in Lincoln, the town just started construction on another high school to meet the need. Placer County this thriving and Nevada County is in decline. One pauses to ask why? Both straddle the Sierra. Both have a similar climate. One has effective leadership and the other. . .

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