George Rebane
The long-awaited report from special counsel Robert Mueller has turned out to be a disappointment on all counts to all sides. The following summarize my initial take on it.
- From a legal perspective, the report is an iconic nothing-burger. A 400-page embarrassment that documents the failure to conclude anything definite about the commissioned purpose for the drawn-out investigation. It is a collection of legal pabulum as a CYA disguise for spending tens of millions over two years to no avail.
- From the gitgo the Mueller investigation was an obviously composed effort to nail the president and derail his administration. The composition of the investigative team and its flailing, off-the-mark, subsequent indictments gave evidence that it really was a desperate witch hunt which had to fire off a few legal pyrotechnics now and then to keep the effort looking credible to the light thinkers.
- From a political perspective, the report is a success. Since there was no credible prosecutorial evidence for either ‘collusion’ or ‘obstruction’, the investigation’s redoubt terminus was always to deliver a product that would dissemble its conclusions so as to invite and enable follow-on probes which the Democrats took every opportunity to specify during the 22-month fiasco. Team Muller got its marching orders early and often from the Left and its lamestream.
- President Trump and his administration have been isolated, perhaps, like no other administration in our history. The Dems could never accept the election results, and the Repubs have carried on a feckless relationship with a president who obviously was not their first choice from their retinue of available candidates. And Trump’s incurable foot-in-mouth disease did not endear him to anyone in the Washington political establishment. Mueller’s investigation was drawn out for the obvious collateral damage it was inflicting by hobbling and diverting Team Trump from governing.
- Mueller’s work has also served 1) to firmly entrench the public’s longstanding opinion of the dodgy legal profession and our convoluted and corrupt justice system in which it operates, and 2) to highlight and further widen our country’s ideological divide. The report’s dearth of evidence and painfully wordsmithed syntax made sure that it would change no minds already secure in their beliefs about Trump’s guilt or innocence. All sides can now put their own particular spin on it, and never look back.
WSJ Washington columnist Kim Strassel adds more meat to these points in her ‘Mueller’s Report Speaks Volumes’.
[20apr19 update] Upon reflection on Volume 2 of the report dealing with obstruction, it strikes me as more than utter bullshit that would be below the standards of any other profession other than those populated mostly by sleazebag lawyers. I add point #6.
- “… while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.” A little thought immediately causes one to ask, ‘is there ANY investigation that cannot have such a codicil appended to its conclusion, should the investigator desire to leave a cloud over the individual investigated without the finding of any illegality or indictable criminality??’ To conclude with such an unnecessary assertion is an act of desperation which confirms that the investigation was carried out with an agenda unfulfilled. Such a dangling innuendo strongly implies that guilt could yet be uncovered with more effort, and forces the so accused into having to prove his own innocence – not exactly the way our system of jurisprudence was intended to operate. (That is one of the many reasons I assess our judicial system to be invitingly corrupt.)
In Mueller’s case he was not able to indict someone for not obstructing an unobstructed investigation that terminated without finding any evidence of an indictable crime. About that the Dems are pissed to the gills, and will now do everything to correct the situation. Go figger.
Special Counsel
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 19 April 2019 at 12:14 PM
Always said Mueller was writing a political document. Glad to see the word “collusion” got moved to the legal “conspiracy”, and even that could not be proved. No minds were changed.
This does not surprise me in the least. Mueller’s job was to bury the dirty deeds of the Deep State Hoax as much as his job was to uncover the facts....while writing a document the Leftinistas could use for impeachment.
“MUELLER CLAIMED JOSEPH MIFSUD LIED TO THE FBI ABOUT PAPADOPOULOS CONTACTS, BUT HE WASN’T CHARGED”
“According to Mueller & Co., Mifsud also falsely claimed he did not meet with Papadopoulos after his initial introductory meeting with Polonskaya. But emails, text messages and other documentation showed Mifsud and Papadopoulos did meet at least two other times, as Papadopoulos claimed.”
https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/19/joseph-mifsud-papadopoulos-mueller/
https://m.facebook.com/RowdyConservatives/photos/a.217983685002343/1596908367109861/?type=3&source=48
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 19 April 2019 at 02:12 PM
Levin
https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/19/mark-levin-volume-ii-mueller-report-200-page-op-ed/
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 19 April 2019 at 02:51 PM
Trump is in the pits again-lowest polling of the year.
"NEW YORK (Reuters) - The number of Americans who approve of President Donald Trump dropped by 3 percentage points to the lowest level of the year following the release of a special counsel report detailing Russian interference in the last U.S. presidential election, according to an exclusive Reuters/Ipsos public opinion poll.
The poll, conducted Thursday afternoon to Friday morning, is the first national survey to measure the response from the American public after the U.S. Justice Department released Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s 448-page report that recounted numerous occasions in which Trump may have interfered with the investigation.
According to the poll, 37 percent of adults in the United States approved of Trump’s performance in office, down from 40 percent in a similar poll conducted on April 15 and matching the lowest level of the year. That is also down from 43 percent in a poll conducted shortly after U.S. Attorney General William Barr circulated a summary of the report in March"
.https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-poll/trump-approval-drops-3-points-to-2019-low-after-release-of-mueller-report-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKCN1RV16S
Posted by: Paul Emery | 19 April 2019 at 04:19 PM
Ohhh so NOW you kike em @419!
;-)
Posted by: Don Bessee | 19 April 2019 at 05:04 PM
like em @ 504
Posted by: Don Bessee | 19 April 2019 at 05:05 PM
Romney on FOX
"I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection . . . "
Yes Mit, our entire nation is sick and revolted at the person elected to represent us, our families and our true American virtues and values. Only on Rebane and other red hot spots will we see a few tired, old white men cheering for the character of the animal they call Trump. Trump is paranoid, delusional, self loathing, and entirely without any moral compass except the one with a needle that points Trump. And his supporters call themselves patriots.
Posted by: Ozz | 19 April 2019 at 05:59 PM
Our "entire nation is sick and revolted at the person elected to represent us, our families and our true American virtues and values"- Ozzie 559pm
Funny, if that's the standard for inhabiting the office of President, the Chief Executive of the Executive branch... not a single one since I've been alive was anything but sick and revolting... possibly with the exception of Bush I and II, and Hillary Clinton would have been arguably worse than the Donald.
The race was for President, not the pastor of your church, your rabbi. Or even your Coven leader. I don't need moral guidance from an SOB able to rise to the top.
Were Romney to run again, the left would treat him as the second coming until he was nominated, then he'd get the leper treatment, no matter who the democrat was on the DEM ticket.
Posted by: Gregory | 19 April 2019 at 06:37 PM
Reading the link to Reuters... "The poll found that 50 percent of Americans agreed that “Trump or someone from his campaign worked with Russia to influence the 2016 election".
In other words, 50% of the adults polled believed in exactly the opposite of the Mueller findings... there was no one in the Trump campaign that worked with Russia to influence the election. NO EVIDENCE.
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1118937718774358016
Posted by: Gregory | 19 April 2019 at 06:49 PM
Yo snooz the tube sock, you sound like someone who thinks a little dab will do ya.....
Never going to live that one down! But hey just grab a tube sock with yellow stripes and bing you got a new handle.
;-)
Posted by: Don Bessee | 19 April 2019 at 06:59 PM
Gregory 6:37
Does Trump inspire greatness? Is he a leader? Is he a statesman? Is he a good person? Is he inspirational? Would you use him as an example to be exemplified by your children?
Baseball players get chastized for not being good examples. Why should your president be any less?
Posted by: Ozz | 19 April 2019 at 07:01 PM
Ozzie 701pm
None of those aspirational guidelines refer to effectiveness as the President.
Has Trump been effective DESPITE being hamstrung by a FALSE narrative of a conspiracy with Russia? He's gotten two justices on SCOTUS and a *bunch* of lower court appointees. McConnell has done a great job ramming them through.
Also, using the phone and his pen as his tools, he dismantled in short order the Obama legacy that was mostly put together with executive orders.
Imagine where we'd be without the RUSSIA hoax as a millstone around Trump's neck. There'd also be a different House, as the main thing the Mueller investigation did was to delay the inevitable until after the midterm election. Mission accomplished.
Posted by: Gregory | 19 April 2019 at 07:14 PM
I like a rogue in the White House. I like Trump and I liked Clinton. They are fun and unpredictable. And the country gains.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 19 April 2019 at 07:41 PM
Rasmussen has Trump down two. Reuters was a bogus poll.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 19 April 2019 at 07:51 PM
Gregory
"None of those aspirational guidelines refer to effectiveness as the President."
None of those aspirational guidelines refer to the effectiveness of being an amazing baseball player - yet the country expected it of Barry Bonds. Maybe The Donald will be known as President Trump*
Posted by: Ozz | 19 April 2019 at 09:14 PM
Rasmussen has Trump basically unchanged... exactly where he was last Friday... 49% approval among likely voters.
Regarding sports figures... as far as I'm concerned the best baseballer of my adult life was barred from the Baseball Hall of Fame... Pete Rose.
From the wiki:
"Rose was a switch hitter and is the all-time MLB leader in hits (4,256), games played (3,562), at-bats (14,053), singles (3,215), and outs (10,328).[1] He won three World Series rings, three batting titles, one Most Valuable Player Award, two Gold Gloves, and the Rookie of the Year Award, and also made 17 All-Star appearances at an unequaled five positions (second baseman, left fielder, right fielder, third baseman, and first baseman). Rose won both of his Gold Gloves when he was an outfielder, in 1969 and 1970."
What happened to Pete? He was a gambling addict, and he bet on his own team.
That he always bet on his own team to win, he didn't fall neatly into the usual trap, that he was possibly throwing games. Nope. He just liked to bet. A bad role model?
Or just an imperfect human being?
You who are perfect can keep throwing stones.
Posted by: Gregory | 19 April 2019 at 09:30 PM
YO YO YO ozzzzness , keep pretending...…….
;-)
Posted by: Don Bessee | 19 April 2019 at 10:34 PM
The media has made up their collective minds. Funny, Part One of the Report shows no crime, no collusion, no Russian able to penetrate the Trump Campaign (despite offers to help) and no American involved with Russian hacking or Russian low budget feeble attempts to meddle. Part Two is about Trump’s “attempts” to obstruct justice of zero criminal behavior as laid out in Part One, lol. Beam me up Scottie.
No collusion, no obstruction. No matter.
https://www.mrctv.org/videos/terms-impeachment-media-mention-i-word-309-times-one-day
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 20 April 2019 at 12:16 AM
Posted by: Ozz | 19 April 2019 at 09:14 PM
Disappointing when the office is occupied by someone other than “DNC Jesus”.
.....who’s “driving” today?
Posted by: fish | 20 April 2019 at 06:18 AM
Gregory 9:30
It was the fan base who gave Pete Rose the boot for unsportsmanlike behavior and statutory rape.. He was maligned for not being a figurehead and mentor for our children. Bottom line is I expect more from a baseball player than I do the President of the United States.
Admittedly I'm one of those misguided souls who was taught to hold open the door for other people, say please and thank you and not to drop my shit for other people tp pick up. If you want to see your boy at has worldly best watched the movie "Trumped" (made long before any political ambitions). He looks back at his caddys, extends his arm with the golf club then drops the club to the ground the moment the caddy's fingers touch the shaft. Then he smirks as the caddy stoops to pick it up. Trump taught him some lesson I'm sure. but we never learned what was being taught. Just that Trump is a genuine asshole. We've watched him do that numerous times now with umbrellas, water bottles, and speech notes. Just an ass.
Posted by: Ozz | 20 April 2019 at 07:34 AM
Ooooze - "Only on Rebane and other red hot spots will we see a few tired, old white men cheering for the character of the animal they call Trump."
Oh, there we go - 'old white men'. How inta-lekuwal!
As for 'cheering for the character'.
Here it is one more time for the slower ones.
Trump is restoring our judiciary. He's separating the left's religion of AGW from the govt. He's actually confronting our enemies instead of handing them billions of dollars. He's not Hillary.
This is all good for our country.
And I'm cheering THAT.
And we ain't tired - not by a long shot!
Posted by: Scott O | 20 April 2019 at 07:35 AM
"Admittedly I'm one of those misguided souls who was taught to hold open the door for other people, say please and thank you and not to drop my shit for other people tp pick up."
The only 'holier than thou' types on this blog are the lefties.
Posted by: Scott O | 20 April 2019 at 07:39 AM
Cracks me up. The Report exonerates Trump but the people writing the report tossed in some poison pill statements to keep the democrats hopeful about impeachment and to assist their candidates in 2020. So obvious to me the deep state is undermining Trump. So now we see the poison and Trump is really hot. He allowed the Mueller scumbags to read his attorney emails and was totally transparent and this is how the scumbags leave it. Can you imagine how they would have tricked him if he was under oath? So we will all ride this out and Mueller will go down in history as a deep state dirtbag.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 20 April 2019 at 07:40 AM
Old white males fought and defeated the NAZI's and the USSR and its satellites. OOZE just forgot.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 20 April 2019 at 07:47 AM
,,,nice try by the peanut poppers here vying to be Trump’s Shih Tsu.
Mueller specifically wrote in the report he would not recommend any charges. But he laid out all the points that could/will be used by other agencies.
Funny how Mueller was never going to recommend charges but Trump is shown to have been acting as a very guilty man for the last couple of years as he tried to get people to lie for him because he was scared shitless!!!
Posted by: AVMan | 20 April 2019 at 07:57 AM
Mueller Report: Carter Page. Money quote: “That Robert Mueller had to grudgingly admit he had no proof Page had committed any crime is the most compelling rebuke to the collusion canard.”
“There’s no room for presumption of innocence when the FBI is making the accusations needed to get a FISA warrant. The first of the four FISA applications declared that “the FBI believes that the Russian Government’s efforts are being coordinated with Page and perhaps other individuals associated with Candidate #1’s [Donald Trump’s] campaign.” The second warrant to surveil Page was secured in January 2017. The judge was told that “the FBI believes that Page has been collaborating and conspiring with the Russian Government.” The third and fourth warrant applications declared “The target of this application is an agent of a foreign power.” These were big claims. The Mueller report shows, even if grudgingly, that those claims were false.”........
“The special counsel was explicitly tasked with investigating Carter Page and given every tool —from wiretaps to grand-jury subpoenas — to get the job done. By contrast, Page ran through his savings and was reduced to being his own lawyer. With the odds stacked so profoundly against him, if there were anything to the stories told in the dossier, Page would not have been in any position to escape justice. That Robert Mueller had to grudgingly admit he had no proof Page had committed any crime is the most compelling rebuke to the collusion canard.
“He may be goofy. He may be indiscreet. His views on Putin may be those of a Russophilic spaniel. But for all that, Carter Page may be the squeaky-cleanest man in America.”
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/04/carter-page-is-mr-clean/
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 20 April 2019 at 08:36 AM
The media and the Union’s commentators lies.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/19/7-ways-mueller-report-exposed-medias-bombshell-fake-news-stories/
https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/19/7-ways-mueller-report-exposed-medias-bombshell-fake-news-stories/
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 20 April 2019 at 08:51 AM
AVM 757am
Nice try by a sock vying to be Mueller's cock holster.
How would AVM describe the difference between behavior of an innocent (in a narrow sense) man and a guilty one? Any prosecutor with a bee up their bonnet can easily turn into a witch hunter.
"If you find yourself blaming President Trump for almost-sort-of-maybe intending to obstruct a witch hunt, you have a mental health crisis, not a political opinion."
-Scott Adams
Posted by: Gregory | 20 April 2019 at 08:54 AM
“Toobin just knew President Trump was guilty of obstruction. Why? Well, because he’d long displayed frustration with the collusion probe, per his attorney general, William Barr.
“Happy people don’t obstruct justice,” Toobin tweeted. “Trump’s frustration at leaks and investigation are evidence of guilt, not innocence.”
“That line, of course, instantly recalled a similar effusion of legal wit and wisdom — from Elle Woods, the protagonist portrayed by actress Reese Witherspoon in the movie “Legally Blonde.”
“Happy people just don’t shoot their husbands,” Woods at one point in the movie says in defense of her client.
“Other Twitter users, however, drew darker parallels. @NeonTaster tweeted at Toobin: “ ‘Your angry proclamations of innocence are themselves evidence of guilt.’ Are you analyzing the Mueller report or the trial of Josef K.” from Franz Kafka’s “The Trial”?””
Money quote:
“The lesson for readers: Don’t expect the collusion and obstruction obsessives to rethink the ideological mono-thought and unprofessionalism that brought their outlets to this nadir.”
https://nypost.com/2019/04/19/top-10-things-the-media-got-wrong-about-collusion-and-obstruction/
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 20 April 2019 at 09:05 AM
"Rasmussen has Trump basically unchanged... exactly where he was last Friday... 49% approval among likely voters."
Nice cherry picking. The average of the last 10 polls is 43.9 approve and 52.1 disapprove.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html
Posted by: Steven Frisch | 20 April 2019 at 09:09 AM
Todd 9:07
"Old white males fought and defeated the NAZI's and the USSR and its satellites. OOZE just forgot."
As did black, yellows, browns and women . . . but you conveniently forgot.
Oh yeah, I did forget how you went into the trenches and saved us. Actually, I distinctly remember you and old bone spur shucking and jiving around the draft board dodging for any chance available to avoid picking picking up a gun. Coward.
Posted by: Ozz | 20 April 2019 at 09:15 AM
,,,cock holster GoodKnight,,,good morning!!!
Too bad you don't have an excuse for all the lies Trump told,,,all the propaganda spewed by him over the report,,,all the lies told by his cronies,,,yada yada yada...
Posted by: AVMan | 20 April 2019 at 09:15 AM
Frisch - "However I must say it is amazing what USEFUL IDIOTS of the former USSR and apologists for Nazi's many people on this page have become."
Names?
Facts?
Evidence?
Didn't think so. The left's narratives about Trump have all gone into the toilet so all they have left is slander and name calling. Mueller was tasked to investigate alleged collusion by Trump with the Russian govt to help Trump get elected. And the report is clear that it never happened. Get over it.
Posted by: Scott O | 20 April 2019 at 09:31 AM
“NATTERING NADLERS OF NIHILISM
The Mueller Report appears to be crafted to keep hope in overthrowing Trump alive among Democrats. No matter that the Trump campaign’s alleged “collusion” with the Russian authorities proved to be a hoax — who engineered it again? — Trump lied and tried to thwart the investigation int his nonexistent crimes. Now we will have to listen to the Democrats and their media adjunct yammer on until Trump is defeated by hook or by crook or the old-fashioned way.
The Democratic protagonists Congress put me in mind of the late William Safire. It was Safire who drove the media nuts writing speeches for Spiro Agnew in the Nixon administration. He gave Agnew the line characterizing the media as “nattering nabobs of negativism.”
Now we are faced with the nattering nadlers of nihilism. The shifty and full of schiff. Delirium and dark waters. Schumer and shinola. They all embody the stupidity and excess and mendacity of the Democratic Party. Taken together, they give us the face of the Democratic Party to perfection.”
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Brit Hume on Adam Shift
HUME: "He’s been called upon to do that before. And what he typically does when asked to do that is he cites public things that have been examined by the Mueller team and found that they don’t point to collusion. That’s what we can expect from him. He has hinted over time that there is some secret evidence that he has. But he has never been able to produce any of it, and I don’t — I think there is zero chance he ever will be able to. But I don’t expect him to stop banging on about it because he is so invested in it and seems to have no scruples about what these conclusions for Mueller have clearly shown. So I think that’s where we are. We haven’t heard the last from Adam Schiff about this. But this could perhaps be the time when people stop paying less attention to him."
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 20 April 2019 at 09:31 AM
Isn't it funny that when the former USSR changed from a totalitarian state bent on spreading the international communist revolution to a totalitarian Russian state bent on destroying western liberal democratic values by embracing autocracy, kleptocracy, conservatism, and white European supremacy, certain people just gravitated to being their useful idiots?
Posted by: Steven Frisch | 20 April 2019 at 09:36 AM
Posted by: Scott O | 20 April 2019 at 09:31 AM
Scott O. ....another useful idiot of Putin :)
Posted by: Steven Frisch | 20 April 2019 at 09:45 AM
OOZE was a Canadian draft dodger. I saw him at the Selective Service office faking a limp and hemorrhoids and when they said he was still going to b going in, he fled. And later he got the pass from Jimmy Carter. What a coward and putz the troll truly shows he is. Sad.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 20 April 2019 at 10:11 AM
Looks like the local Fifth Columnist, Steve Frisch is feeling guilty again for his commie feelings. It's OK Stevie, Trump will help you get some mental assistance once you stop the drinking.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 20 April 2019 at 10:12 AM
Frisch 909am
It wasn't cherry picking... Rasmussen is the only daily poll of likely voters that is available to me and you.
Again, reading the link to Reuters on the Reuters/Ipsos poll of Anyone who would answer the questions... "The poll found that 50 percent of Americans agreed that “Trump or someone from his campaign worked with Russia to influence the 2016 election"
Mueller found NO evidence of anyone in the Trump campaign worked with Russia to influence the 2016 election.
The DEM partisans in media and politics (and sleazy 501c3's with lilly white staff and Boards) did their jobs well. Who do you believe, Steve: Mueller; or Morning Joe, Mika and Rachael?
Don't think too long, you might answer correctly.
Posted by: Gregory | 20 April 2019 at 10:13 AM
Posted by: Gregory | 20 April 2019 at 10:13 AM
I think that when someone obstructs justice in plain sight it is still obstruction of justice and I look forward to Trumps fat as getting kicked in prison at some point in the future.
I would critique your employment but from everyone I know in the western county I hear you are unemployable.
Posted by: Steven Frisch | 20 April 2019 at 10:18 AM
You don't know everyone, Steve 1018am. Nice slander.
Give a name or two, like you would if deposed under oath.
You are the CEO of a lilly white 501c3, yes? And your board of directors is lilly white?
Obstruction of a witch hunt is harder to get 12 jurors to agree to than obstruction of justice when a crime is committed. Sometimes anger at the Grand Inquisition/Inquisitor is justified.
"If you find yourself blaming President Trump for almost-sort-of-maybe intending to obstruct a witch hunt, you have a mental health crisis, not a political opinion."
-Scott Adams
Posted by: Gregory | 20 April 2019 at 10:25 AM
So because Trump ranted to his help about Mueller and his henchmen in the privacy of his office that is somehow "obstruction? That would turn justice on its head and make those pushing that our Gestapo. Thinking or telling someone to do something that never happened is not a crime. But it shows the desperation of the leftwing extremists like Frisch and OOZE.,
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 20 April 2019 at 10:36 AM
Frisch responds to charges of baseless name-calling by more baseless name calling.
I guess that's the left's standard of proof.
'It is so because I keep saying it's so.'
Pathetic.
Posted by: Scott O | 20 April 2019 at 12:45 PM
ScottO 1245pm - Yes it is. But considering it's the only hand they have to play, then that's all they can do (over and over again). And when you think about it, it's not all that bad of a policy. Since many/most in their constituency cannot parse that fine point, then for them it remains gospel.
Posted by: George Rebane | 20 April 2019 at 12:52 PM
Here's a question for Frisch and Emery:
Mueller found NO evidence of anyone in the Trump campaign having worked with Russia to influence the 2016 election- yes or no?
Posted by: Gregory | 20 April 2019 at 01:37 PM
Why would someone attempt to obstruct justice if they had nothing to hide? If you were innocent wouldn't be more prudent to welcome an investigation with open arms?
Posted by: Robert Cross | 20 April 2019 at 02:16 PM
RobertC 216pm - Without confirming that there was any attempt to obstruct justice, there would still be every reason NOT to welcome any investigation of your affairs within a corruptible justice system by a legal machine dedicated to your destruction. Only the naive believe that the innocents are immune to being snared by committed prosecutors with an agenda and all the legal machinery at their command.
Posted by: George Rebane | 20 April 2019 at 02:31 PM
"Mueller found NO evidence of anyone in the Trump campaign having worked with Russia to influence the 2016 election- yes or no?"
Good question. I'll repeat it.
Mueller found NO evidence of anyone in the Trump campaign having worked with Russia to influence the 2016 election- yes or no?
Posted by: scenes | 20 April 2019 at 02:32 PM
Crossed-up Bobby "If you were innocent wouldn't be more prudent to welcome an investigation with open arms?"
Hell no - I'd be even more suspicious if the fed bull dogs were 'investigating' me for a non-event.
And the nightly news was filled with folks that openly hated me telling the public that it was only a matter of time before they'd march me out of the White House into prison. For nothing.
Welcome that?
Does Booby welcome the police kicking his door in at midnight and ransacking his house for nothing?
What do you have to hide, Booby?
You should welcome them!
Posted by: Scott O | 20 April 2019 at 02:59 PM
Can’t have a discussion about the Mueller Report and Russian meddling without mentioning the one asleep at the wheel.
“The partisan warfare over the Mueller report will rage, but one thing cannot be denied: Former President Barack Obama looks just plain bad. On his watch, the Russians meddled in our democracy while his administration did nothing about it.
“The Mueller report flatly states that Russia began interfering in American democracy in 2014. Over the next couple of years, the effort blossomed into a robust attempt to interfere in our 2016 presidential election. The Obama administration knew this was going on and yet did nothing. In 2016, Obama's National Security Adviser Susan Rice told her staff to "stand down" and "knock it off" as they drew up plans to "strike back" against the Russians, according to an account from Michael Isikoff and David Corn in their book "Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin's War on America and the Election of Donald Trump".
“Why did Obama go soft on Russia? My opinion is that it was because he was singularly focused on the nuclear deal with Iran. Obama wanted Putin in the deal, and to stand up to him on election interference would have, in Obama's estimation, upset that negotiation. This turned out to be a disastrous policy decision.
“Obama's supporters claim he did stand up to Russia by deploying sanctions after the election to punish them for their actions. But, Obama, according to the Washington Post, "approved a modest package... with economic sanctions so narrowly targeted that even those who helped design them describe their impact as largely symbolic." In other words, a toothless response to a serious incursion.”
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/opinions/mueller-report-obama-jennings/index.html
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 20 April 2019 at 04:08 PM
With all the dancing around and questions about cooperation or not with the special counsel the salient point that no one is discussing is executive privilege.
The President at no point in the investigation or in regard to the report using privileged materials that met the legal guidelines was executive privilege invoked by the President as was his legal right. That's more transparent than any president in modern history.
Now go eat your crow in rancid Russian dressing!
;-)
Posted by: Don Bessee | 20 April 2019 at 04:45 PM
Mueller Report Fallout.
The Enemy of the People finally coped to what anyone with two brain cells left knew long ago. Its all bullshit. Only a really messed up popinjay could dumb (or gullible) enough to fall for that one...
“NYT: ‘Ha ha, funny story, you'll never believe it. That dossier we spent years defending as legitimate and a worthy basis for FISA wiretaps on citizens is so unfounded it might actually be Russian disinformation, just like the collusion skeptics warned,’" she tweeted.”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/46240/nyt-finally-acknowledges-steele-dossier-might-not-ashe-schow?%3Futm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand
Congrats, Socialcrats, Leftinistas, Dems, Green Libertarians, and assorted wet brains.
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 20 April 2019 at 05:18 PM
George 2:31 -- there was also no denial that obstruction did not occur except from the trumpeters. There was no evidence that obstruction did not take place either.
"any investigation of your affairs within a corruptible justice system by a legal machine dedicated to your destruction." that would be your personal assumption that the justice system is corrupt and dedicated to destroying trump... an assumption that is naive to begin with. Wasn't it that same justice system that pilloried Hillary... you know "Lock her up". Comey's election week barb that probably cost Hillary the election..the emails etc etc. so what you imply is that Hillary, therefore, was also subject to that same "corrupt and dedicated" justice system that sought to destroy her.. right? I will go ahead and answer that for you ...blah blah blah trump is totally innocent and Hillary was guilty and got away with it.
Posted by: Robert Cross | 20 April 2019 at 05:55 PM
RobertC 555pm - A "personal assumption" strongly held by half of America, and aptly demonstrated (over the last two years) by Mueller and his Democratic cohorts. Also see today's update.
Posted by: George Rebane | 20 April 2019 at 06:22 PM
GeorgeR your updater is spot on. Americans should be outraged that Mueller spent 30 million bucks and went through a million documents and wrote a 400-page report and made such a bullshit statement about "crime". If that act doesn't show the intent of the Mueller and deep state than a person has to be brain dead. So my takeaway is FINE. Trump is exonerated and the detractors can stuff it.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 20 April 2019 at 06:33 PM
Mueller's report did not exonerate Trump of several million crimes all on the books in all 50 states (57 for Obamites). So, he MIGHT be guilty of all of them. I notice Mueller did not specifically say Trump was NOT guilty so we can dream that he might be!
Since Frisch and Emery and Ooooze haven't been declared not guilty of any number of crimes in whatever jurisdiction they live in, shall we surmise they 'probably' or 'might' be or 'are' guilty of anything we can think of?
I can see where left wing jurisprudence is going.
Posted by: Scott O | 20 April 2019 at 06:49 PM
Booby at 5:55 - "There was no evidence that obstruction did not take place either."
There was also no evidence that Booby did not commit a crime.
Really, Booby - is this the best you can do?
It's Easter - and there was no evidence that Jesus did not commit a crime.
The lefties that post here would be in good stead with Pilate.
Posted by: Scott O | 20 April 2019 at 07:00 PM
Read it and weep -
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/4/19/1851721/-Warren-Is-Correct-Impeachment-Process-Must-Be-Started?utm_campaign=trending
"After reading the redacted Mueller report, I don’t know how anyone cannot be for starting impeachment proceedings. The Mueller Report is crying out for it.
Read the report! It is the exact opposite what Barr has said. It lays out clearly that the reason an indictment wasn’t done against Trump is because the OLC guidelines says he cannot. The report clearly states that since an indictment cannot be done that it must instead lay out the elements of the crime of obstruction and then go point by point to show how the evidence that has been gathered against Trump meets every single one of those elements!
Basically, it says, “Here’s your evidence that proves all the elements of the crime, I cannot indict him, but here’s the ‘high crimes and misdemeanors’ for impeaching him and by the way once he’s out of office he can be charged”.
It is clear as day. Barr lied his ass off. Congress must fulfill its constitutional duty of oversight of the executive and impeach this president. We are beyond party politics."
And what are the lies?
And what is the evidence?
The article doesn't even try to lay them out.
It's more of the same.
It's so because we say it's so - a lot.
And the more we say it's true, the more it's true.
This is left wing stuff.
It's the best they can do.
"I cannot indict him, but here’s the ‘high crimes and misdemeanors’ for impeaching him and by the way once he’s out of office he can be charged”.
And that would be?
Well, nothing, as it turns out.
Absolutely nothing.
The article states there are 'high crimes and misdemeanors' but can cite not a single one.
You want these idiots to be in charge of a criminal justice system?
This is all straight out of Alice In Wonderland.
This has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with our left wingers here that are nothing more than a crazed mob swinging a rope and looking for anyone to hang. A drunken mob from the saloon stumbling over their own words and their own feet clamoring for a victim.
Posted by: Scott O | 20 April 2019 at 07:27 PM
Oh Scott. If Pocahontas believes she is a Native American, she is delusional enough to believe anything. Besides, her campaign to be the first Cherokee in the White House has sputtered and stalled so she has to be the first candidate from the clown car to jump in and demand impeachment. Got her some sorely needed media attention.
https://i2.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2019/04/IMG_1571.jpg?w=720&ssl=1
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Back to reality:
Why, why why? Why?
https://directorblue.blogspot.com/2019/04/5-key-items-missing-from-cub-scout.html?fbclid=IwAR1ELCxIPaU8Lm3Jqz8NzhnKRSBr47XE7jYale1t7amMfE2WUfIT28qT1Ks
https://www.facebook.com/BuckSexton/photos/a.568156706588519/2536072206463616/?type=3&theater
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 20 April 2019 at 08:13 PM
Third try. That rainstorm came through pretty quick and may have knocked out something. The Matrix is not perfect. How about a smoke and a pancake? Once again,
Oh Scott. If Pocahontas believes she is a Native American, she is delusional enough to believe anything. Besides, her campaign to be the first Cherokee in the White House has sputtered and stalled so she has to be the first candidate from the clown car to jump in and demand impeachment. Got her some sorely needed media attention.
https://i2.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2019/04/IMG_1571.jpg?w=720&ssl=1
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Back to reality:
Why, why why? Why?
https://directorblue.blogspot.com/2019/04/5-key-items-missing-from-cub-scout.html?fbclid=IwAR1ELCxIPaU8Lm3Jqz8NzhnKRSBr47XE7jYale1t7amMfE2WUfIT28qT1Ks
https://www.facebook.com/BuckSexton/photos/a.568156706588519/2536072206463616/?type=3&theater
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 20 April 2019 at 08:42 PM
Scott.. Here is a good piece about Bar. He bent over backwards. And with the three member panel of the circuit court ruling on a separate mater just 2-3 weeks ago that grand jury testimony should not be released......well, it sounds like the Dems are hitting Barr with subpoenas that if complied with, Barr would be breaking the law. And they know that. Very dishonest people those Dems are. Despicable. No morals. Think Kavanaugh and Avenatti. Serial gang rapist college enterprise. Quaaludes in party cups. Their depths of depravity knows no bounds.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/04/mueller-report-vindicates-william-barr/
Short and sweet
https://directorblue.blogspot.com/2019/04/5-key-items-missing-from-cub-scout.html?fbclid=IwAR3CWgDGCwV2zyPw7-4OZImFirBLyvpCKOT-zEEutXo6hVX4Cbnwyuzkcw0
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 20 April 2019 at 09:17 PM
Wow
From Georges favorite, Romney no less. Shows Trumps support is thin outside his base followers
From Breitbart:
"Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT) on Friday declared he is “sickened” by the conduct of President Donald Trump and his aides as described in special counsel Robert Mueller’s report.
“I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the President,” Romney said in a statement shared to social media."
Posted by: Paul Emery | 20 April 2019 at 09:56 PM
Gee - that's odd. When Romney ran for POTUS he was a NAZI. Now Paul is touting him as a character witness.
Sorry Romney - you don't get to be the Republican nominee for the presidency again. You had your chance.
Posted by: Scott O | 20 April 2019 at 10:06 PM
Romney tied puppies to the roof of the family wagon along with grannie’s carcass. Can’t stop. Got get to Disney World. And the way Romney murdered some ex-employee’s wife with cancer six years after he sold the company. And his foreign policy? Hey, the 80’s are calling and they want their Cold War back, lol. And he has an elevator in his McMansion garage for his cars! For his friggin cars!
No, can’t get behind that kind of vile person. A ‘Throw Mama from the Train’ kind of sicko. Offends my inner moral Puritan.
Somebody wants their Flake and McCain and Bob Corker and the old Lindsey Graham back. He misses them.
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 20 April 2019 at 10:48 PM
Paul:
Mueller found NO evidence of anyone in the Trump campaign having worked with Russia to influence the 2016 election- yes or no?
That's NO evidence, not just not enough to charge anyone with a crime. NO evidence.
Posted by: Gregory | 21 April 2019 at 12:08 AM
But Trump’s astonishing and glorious victory is illegitimate. He used stolen eye-mails! Foul. Put him in the penalty box. The real reason My Gal lost is she did it all to herself. Boy, the TDS really are incapable of taking ownership of any of their actions.
https://www.facebook.com/MacThomas.conservative.environmentalist/photos/a.506223032794118/1622881104461633/?type=3&theater&ifg=1
The secret formula is contained in Al Capone’s vault located deep within in an underground bunker hidden by a nondescript building of concrete and steel accessed from Key Largo. Thanks Vlady. Owe you one.
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Good read about the slimeball Wlliam Barr, Trump’s personal lawyer. His new fixer.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/04/mueller-report-vindicates-william-barr/
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 21 April 2019 at 12:39 AM
The final word
http://dlvr.it/R3927Y
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 21 April 2019 at 01:20 AM
BT 12:39 - Thanks for the link. Checking with Snopes (left wing as all get out) there were the usual straw man questions about the Clinton Foundation but at the bottom they had to admit there was a gift from Qatar. It seems that the foundation only had to report money given to it that were 'increases' over previous amounts. The money pouring in from other foreign entities while she was SOS could be buried.
And they did confirm another problem with the foundation that they solicited donations in states they had not registered in. New York, principally.
Not only was the amount of money given away a miserably small amount, there is a complete lack of proof that the money went to any sort of deserving party. There's only one reason for the email server being moved to her home and that was to remove from proper oversight all of the email communication going on while she was SOS. The reason she gave was an obvious lie. Her house should have been raided and the server and all other data, electronic and hard copy, removed and examined by the proper authorities.
More here on improper fund raising:
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/420897-did-clinton-foundation-mislead-irs-state-filings-suggest-so
Posted by: Scott O | 21 April 2019 at 08:09 AM
George 6:22 -- You avoided the question of whether or not Hillary was subjected to the same corrupt judicial system that persecuted Trump. Or did I already correctly answer that question for you?
Posted by: Robert Cross | 21 April 2019 at 08:19 AM
Page 4A of the SacBee has a ridiculous story by a NYT reporter named Sharon LaFraniere. It is so amazing that these reporters are just like Paul Emery. They are total conspiracy nuts. The article is so fallacious it hurts. We have to stop buying this crap and fire all the Professors that teach them. America is in danger.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 21 April 2019 at 08:42 AM
RobertC 819am - Yes, Hillary was also subjected to exactly the same corrupt judicial system that persecuted Trump.
Posted by: George Rebane | 21 April 2019 at 08:55 AM
Stoopid @ 8:19: Of course. Comey detailed the crimes of which she was definitely guilty and then followed Obama's orders to ignore the law and let her go so she could run for president. Sound about right? L
Posted by: L | 21 April 2019 at 08:57 AM
More cracks in the Pubbers over Trumps sleazy tactics
"Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) told a radio station that the special counsel’s findings offered “an unflattering portrayal of the president," and Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) said in a statement that the 448-page report “documents a number of actions taken by the president or his associates that were inappropriate.”
Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 April 2019 at 10:56 AM
Plenty of evidence Gregory that's why Trump and his personal lawyer Barr are not allowing it to be released. Muller does NOT exonerate Trump. He just contends he cannot prosecute him
under the current interpretation of the powers of the Justice department to indict a sitting President. It will all come out and soon. That's why some pubbers are distancing themselves from Trump. They are anticipating Trumps losing in the election.
Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 April 2019 at 11:03 AM
Thanks for bringing up the Clinton foundation Bill. That sleazy operation was one of the main reasons I could not support Hillary in the last election
Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 April 2019 at 11:05 AM
Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 April 2019 at 11:03 AM
It’s good that you have this.......something to give your life some semblance of meaning.
Posted by: fish | 21 April 2019 at 11:18 AM
"Plenty of evidence Gregory"
Paul:
Mueller found NO evidence of anyone in the Trump campaign having worked with Russia to influence the 2016 election.
That's NO evidence, not just not enough to charge anyone with a crime. NO evidence.
You're looking at all the redactions and you believe, like the apocryphal little girl digging into the pile of horseshit looking for a pony, that what you've been waiting for is buried in the stuff that you can't see.
Posted by: Gregory | 21 April 2019 at 11:33 AM
Guliani was interviewed just now on FOX and then Schiff. Rudy has cleaned up the misinformation from the Report and Paul Emery has egg on his face again Schiff was still lying about it all. What a slime.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 21 April 2019 at 11:39 AM
Paul takes a short break from his deceased equine flaying and writes: "It will all come out and soon."
Oh c'mon, Paul - don't keep us in suspense. What IS 'it' that will all come out soon? Golly - that crack team of super-sleuths at KVMR must really, really, really have the dirt this time!
Posted by: Scott O | 21 April 2019 at 11:46 AM
The LIBS and Emery looking to rewrite the meaning of "innocent", and proof there of.
Since LIBS and Emery can't prove a crime, Trump must somehow prove his innocence.
Yup Proggy justice. "Guilty till proven innocent"(yet still never enough).. The Commie Socialist way.
Posted by: Walt | 21 April 2019 at 12:06 PM
"Rudy has cleaned up the misinformation from the Report."
Good to hear Todd. Trump's lawyer "cleaned up the report"? Do you know how much sense you (don't) make? Next you'll be crowing that if Trump took the condor off the endangered species list, he would have saved it from being endangered.
Posted by: Ozz | 21 April 2019 at 12:08 PM
LIB news has no shame. Can you say,,,, "DESPERATE"?
https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/21/msnbc-reporter-robert-mueller-easter-church/
Posted by: Walt | 21 April 2019 at 12:17 PM
Perhaps Paul is looking over the Mueller report. Perhaps not.
Paul, there was no finding of anyone from Trump on down who coordinated anything with the Russians. Nothing. De nada.
There was a big opening left for Democrats in congress to exploit because he didn't find there was nothing to support obstruction of justice... meaning the investigation into the possible coordinating with Russia that came up completely empty.
Didn't find there was an obstruction of justice, nothing that suggested they might have charged Trump were it not for him being in office and would have to wait until he left office.
Now, a difference Schiff doesn't grok with his Watergate comparison is that there, Nixon was obstructing justice... investigations of real crimes. The break in. The lying. The hiding of slush funds used.
Here and now, we have Trump acting on the surface of it like Nixon... not because he was guilty but apparently because he and his staff was innocent and Trump knew he was screwed with this hanging over him. So, in Trumpian fashion... me made it worse, but let's remember it was Comey intentionally leaking government information (stolen from the gov't) to the NY Times through a friend of his, with the intent being that a Special Persecutor would be put in place to hobble Trump.
Get it now?
Posted by: Gregory | 21 April 2019 at 12:48 PM
Rudy explained things in a common language that cleaned up the Muller double-speak and verified Trump was collusion and obstruction free. I understand why mentally challenged democrats and their acolytes would disagree. They disagree with Jesu and God. Anyway, Trump will be re-elected as the democrats are fighting amongst themselves on how to proceed. This is so sweet. It falls into my plan.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 21 April 2019 at 12:59 PM
Even pencil neck Schiff is backing away from impeachment. Looks like Trump outsmarted these fools again.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 21 April 2019 at 01:00 PM
George 8:55 -- If " Hillary was also subjected to exactly the same corrupt judicial system that persecuted Trump." then is Hillary as innocent as you think Trump is, are they equally guilty but both got away with its one innocent and the other not?
Todd 1:00 -- the Dems are far better off with an un-impeached but discredited trump come the 2020 election. They would be stupid to impeach because the Senate would not vote to convict and Trump would be exonerated in the eyes of the public.. not a good strategy for the Dems.
Posted by: Robert Cross | 21 April 2019 at 02:00 PM
RobertC 200pm - You again exhibit the power of your brain by drawing exactly the wrong conclusion - one that cannot be drawn from my 855am statement. By Hillary being subjected to exactly the same corrupt judicial system that persecuted Trump, was illustrated by that system finding a demonstrably guilty (Comey's testimony) person to not warrant an indictment. Whereas, the innocent Trump was persecuted for two years, and to this day the persecution continues with no let up. Both actions by our judicial system have proven to be corrupt, thereby exhibiting the breadth of its corruption in how it handles both the guilty and the innocent. I thought that you'd be able to kinda figure that out.
Posted by: George Rebane | 21 April 2019 at 03:26 PM
The ne’er ending saga:
“And now we know it was all for naught. Well, glad that’s settled – except for the bitter enders who continue to insist they see the ghosts. And one can understand why: If you spent two years confident that Don Jr. was going to jail, it’s impossible to persist as a media commentator admitting your wrongness – better to double down and insist the conspiracy goes even deeper than you ever suspected.”......
“So this sets up an interesting phenomenon. The Democratic Leadership is wisely pumping the brakes on impeachment. The majority of the Democratic conference is with them. The majority of the American people are with them. But influential partisans are in favor of such a foolhardy escapade, despite all the facts we now know, driven by their hatred of this president and a refusal to acknowledge how wrong they were about how he got elected. Much as its authors tried, the report does not aid them in this effort. As David Harsanyi notes, “It went from ‘Russia stole the election with Trump’ to ‘Trump spoke about trying to undermine the investigation that was being used to smear him every day for two years.’” That’s just not going to fly. But influential elites in politics and media are now reduced to this conspiracy of dunces, imitating Homer Simpson chasing after that marvelous pig, insisting it’s still good.“
https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/19/collusion-dream-dead-conspiracy-lives/
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 21 April 2019 at 04:45 PM
Who, what, when, why, why, why? Short and sweet.
https://directorblue.blogspot.com/2019/04/5-key-items-missing-from-cub-scout.html?fbclid=IwAR2QnnVuOJ8Q4juRSaikm2_-4L13P68PpOh4JjHJG-bbq3-AocTuDgN7u2I
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 21 April 2019 at 04:56 PM
It's probably just best to view the Russian Conspiracy Theorists as 'Bitter Clingers' at this point.
Oh well, there's always Stormy, or some subtlety in the tax code in 1985, there's gotta be somethin'.
In other current affairs. Obama appears somewhat confused on his wording.
https://i.redd.it/4c0yghp06ot21.jpg
Posted by: scenes | 21 April 2019 at 05:05 PM
@ 5:05 pm
Lol. That term ‘bitter enders’ stopped me dead in my tracks as well. Bitter Enders, not Bitter Clingers. Or Bitter Klingons.
Speaking of Obama, he did say Holder was his “wingman” and a lot of things that would make the Bitter Enders come unglued if Trump said the same thing.
https://thefederalist.com/2017/10/29/obamas-campaign-gave-972000-law-firm-funneled-money-fusion-gps/
Buck sez:
https://www.facebook.com/BuckSexton/photos/a.568156706588519/2536072206463616/?type=3&theater
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 21 April 2019 at 05:38 PM
George 3:26 -- so in your opinion trump is innocent and Hillary guilty but both were persecuted by the same corrupt judicial system in spite of the fact that NO INDICTMENTS came from the Hillary investigation but multiple from the trump investigation. Would you come to the same conclusion if you took off your political blinders and just looked at the facts (not Barr's interpretation) as we know them?
Posted by: Robert Cross | 21 April 2019 at 05:39 PM
Correction @539, shrillary was protected at the highest levels, the same levels that persecuted team Trump. Damn those pesky facts that keep your TDS in full effect.
;-)
Posted by: Don Bessee | 21 April 2019 at 05:51 PM
Dr. Rebane @ 3:26 pm sez
“I thought that you'd be able to kinda figure that out.”
You thought wrong. :)
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 21 April 2019 at 05:53 PM
Then there is that reality ignored by the pink pussy hat set -
“And the best precedent for that is George H.W. Bush, who pardoned Casper Weinberger and five other people on the eve of the trial,” Dershowitz said. “The special prosecutor said he obstructed justice, but he couldn’t be charged with it. And they never mentioned the Bush case in the Mueller report. Mueller was in the Bush administration. Barr was in the Bush administration. And they deliberately omit as the leading precedent, which would preclude a president from being charged with obstruction for simply exercising his constitutional authority.”
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/04/21/dershowitz-mueller-completely-wrong-on-obstruction-should-have-cited-h-w-bush-precedent/
;-)
Posted by: Don Bessee | 21 April 2019 at 06:55 PM
George writes:
" and to this day the persecution continues with no let up. "
Yep, we can agree on that. There are at lease 12 federal investigations still open and several in NY State in progress and with Mueller soon to testify in the House there is lots of excitement to follow. Trump is slumping in the polls and can hardly declare a victory at this point. He's down 19 points since his high point in the 538 consensus of likely voters. Things look pretty grim.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/voters/
Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 April 2019 at 08:35 PM
RobertC 539pm - You did it again. I did cite you the facts, Barr does not yet enter the picture, only the reports of Comey and Mueller. Have no idea why you had to bring in Mueller's sideshows that had nothing to do with Trump's campaign or administration. So the question is really whether you can focus on the facts in those reports about Hillary and Trump, and conclude that our judicial system is not corrupt. You should be able to figure out by now that these things don't come easily to you and yours. Try to stay focused on the original proposition.
Posted by: George Rebane | 21 April 2019 at 09:00 PM
Don
You didn't note that Bush was a one term President because he lost the confidence of the voters with his manipulations. Lost to Bubba who went on to two full terms.
Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 April 2019 at 09:11 PM
Papa Bush lost because he renigged on his pledge about taxes. The democrats outsmarted him. And we R's punished him. Democrats would have reward a scofflaw as they do all theirs. And Bubba never got a majority as Perot took a hefty percentage from Bush and some from Bubba.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 21 April 2019 at 09:38 PM