Sandbox – 12jun19

[It appears that there’s not much else happening in the country or the world to interest our commenters who are locked in a pitched battle debating the deeper meaning of poll and Nevada County vote count percentages all guaranteed to rivet the attention of RR’s other readers.  gjr]

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[Walt]

Just the other day Emery was pointing a bony finger at Trump about the debt.
Look what his Sister is demanding and holding hostage.
https://apnews.com/c52d04f488c14fd8abd6df866855bedc
" Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday that the Democratic-controlled House won’t pass must-do legislation to increase the government’s borrowing cap until the Trump administration agrees to boost spending limits on domestic programs.

The California Democrat said she’ll agree to increase the so-called debt ceiling, which is needed to avoid a market-cratering default on U.S. government obligations this fall. But she says she’ll do so only after President Donald Trump agrees to lift tight “caps” that threaten both the Pentagon and domestic agencies with sweeping budget cuts."

[Bill Tozer]

Bias news and tossing out a bone to our friends on the dark side of the street to be fair and balanced.

Here are two articles, the first two have a bias slant. The 2nd one I would not consider posting here (read it a few days ago), but it serves as a good example of bias slant (understatement). The facts are accurate, but the descriptions and words used could be slightly more tempered.

1) In the first sentence, the word “interrogate” should be replaced with the word “question” or a less loaded verb.

“The Justice Department will interrogate senior CIA officers as part of an investigation on the origins of the Russia probe.”
https://www.oann.com/doj-to-question-senior-cia-officials-regarding-origins-of-russia-probe/

The second article appears to have a partisan slant. Ok, it’s an opinion piece, but.....

“But the state that Reagan once governed (1967-1975) has become the prime national example of the abject failure of Democratic policies, all of them. Jerry Brown's imaginary high-speed rail that was to initially run from Bakersfield to Merced in Central California is a bust. The cost was projected to be $77b but has forecast to be $98b! It most likely will never be completed. Billions have been wasted.

“Our state debt is over $1.5t. We have the highest gasoline prices in the nation. Oh, and we are a sanctuary state that protects all manner of illegal immigrants, no matter how serious the crimes they've committed. Think Jose Garcia Zanate who killed Kate Steinle. He had been deported seven times but was out and about on the streets of San Francisco with the blessings of SF law enforcement; they aim to protect the criminals at the expense of the law-abiding. ICE is the enemy in sanctuary cities and states, the thugs are victims.

“State taxes in California are the highest in the nation, as are our sales taxes. We fall nearly last in education. We have the most homeless, the most illegal migrants. The state spends $30.b on illegal immigration per year. Like all cities run by progressives, our entire state is a disaster of Democratic making. San Francisco, Los Angeles, and San Diego have been overrun by homeless people, most of them drug addicted and/or mentally ill. Entire areas of these cities are befouled by used needles, feces, trash, garbage, rats and now diseases long-thought to be extinct in the West. Persons who work in downtown Los Angeles have contracted typhus! As true in other cites long run by Democrats (Chicago, Baltimore, Seattle, Detroit, Flint) it is the implementation of ridiculous utopian Marxist policies so beloved by progressives that has destroyed these once grand cities. Socialist strategies always fail. Democrats cheat, (ballot harvesting) are re-elected, and the state continues to decline. Venezuela is the current example of the massive failure.......” and on and on it goes, then privets to the media, aka, The Enemy of the People.

“As Levin's extraordinary and profound book pounds home, our mainstream media is part and parcel of the progressive plan, in Obama's words, to "fundamentally transform America." One has only to watch a few minutes of CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, or read the NYT and the WaPo to know this is true. Fake news hardly describes the rubbish they spew and call news. They lie, they calculate, they agree on a phrase of the day and all repeat it like the puppets they are; they seem to think they are masters of neuro-linguistic programming but they are just parrots who repeat what they've been directed to say. Since the moment Trump became a candidate for the presidency, they set out to demolish him. Once elected, they shifted into high gear, devised a full-on conspiracy to frame him for crimes he never committed. They are still at it, even though the Mueller Report cleared him. While the facts of their grand plan are being revealed, they still hope to defeat the man. But they will not. The American people are on to them, enough of them anyway. We see our left for what they are, America-hating control freaks who lay waste to everything they touch.”
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/06/can_california_be_saved_or_is_it_too_late.html

Bonus: Dr. Pizza arrested. Could not have happened to a nicer member of the Blue Mob.

https://www.oann.com/watch-anti-trump-journalist-dr-pizza-arrested-for-child-sex-crimes/

[Paul Emery]

Trump was going to have a balanced budget and pay off the debt in 10 years. Gosh and golly, what happened Walt???

[Walt]

He's kept more promises than he's broke Emery,, deal with it.
At least he's put a cap on things. Your Sis is pissed.

[fish]

Hey….the Uncle Punchy Show™ is in summer reruns!

Trump was going to have a balanced budget and pay off the debt in 10 years. Gosh and golly, what happened Walt???

……what else is on…...this sucked when it was new!

[Don Bessee]

That should give them pause in the future -

https://www.foxnews.com/us/oberlin-college-to-pay-bakery-the-now-massive-sum-of-more-than-44m-over-racism-dispute

;-)

[Bill Tozer]

Walt, great new self portrait there. Is soooo you. Get done on you bad orange self!

Balanced budget talk, like the illegal alien invasion, will drive me batty. Beyond exasperated. Vote for Ron Paul and his three supporters if you want a balanced budget. Heck, there is currently only one Dem in Congress who supports a balanced budget, some oddball that keeps Paul from being a by his lonesome. Ron calls himself Libertarian-R and his cohort in crime Libertarian-D.
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The Mayor of Los Angeles ran on the single issue of ending homelessness in the city in ten years. Throwing a billion at the problem has not yet resulted in desired results. In fact, one could easily make the argument that it just made matters worse. The mayor said ten years and he has a few years left to get ‘er done.

Lie is such a ugly word. It is hateful, degrading, and against our community standards. That’s not who we are. I prefer the term ‘unfulfilled promises.’
Trump said ten years? He has plenty of time.
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Fish @3:01 pm
More on soccer. You got to feel tiny Estonia.

Soccer is the world’s game, but women’s soccer is not. Not many countries take women’s soccer seriously and, with the possible exception of the U.S., those that do don’t take it nearly as seriously as they take men’s soccer.

Hence, mismatches like the U.S.-Thailand farce. There just aren’t enough competent women’s teams in some continents to make up a strong world cup field.

At the real World Cup, a mismatch like yesterday’s is nearly impossible. If the best men’s team from Europe or South America played the worst team from Asia or North America, one would expect a 4-6 goal margin of victory. 13-0 is unheard of.

It’s true that Germany defeated Estonia 8-0 yesterday in a men’s game, but not in the World Cup. The Estonia team could never qualify for the World Cup as that tournament is presently constituted. And 8-0 isn’t 13-0.“

It’s a business, stupid! Where’s the beef?

“...n 2015 — the last time the Women’s World Cup took place. The main reason women soccer players aren’t paid as much as men is due to the fact that there is simply less interest from viewers. The lower interest results in less money brought in from advertisers and revenue to the Federation Internationale de Football Association (FIFA).

“When women’s soccer came to Fox Sports, it averaged about 63,000 viewers, while the men’s team regularly brings in 240,000 viewers per game at ESPN. This changes when the women’s team is in the World Cup. Views at that time rival that of the men’s team — but just for that short period. Chris Chase wrote at USA Today in 2015 that this is more akin to national pride than any love of women’s soccer.

The lower viewership leads to lower revenue. The Washington Post reported in 2015 (while trying to blame sexism) that women’s soccer only brought in $17 million in ad sponsorship for Fox Sports, while the men’s final in 2014 brought ESPN $529 million in ad revenue. Further, the men’s World Cup generated $4.5 billion in direct revenue to FIFA.

And if we really want to talk about equality, the women’s team gets a higher percentage of revenue than the men’s team, yet they neglect to include this fact when complaining about how little they got in bonuses. CBS reported four years ago that the men’s team received 9% of the revenue generated by the 2010 World Cup — which amounted to $348 million. The women’s team received 13% of the 2015 World Cup revenue, but because the women’s team brought in less revenue, they only received $10 million.

[Walt]

Why thanks Bill... I just need to add the beard to set it off properly. Now to get the Grand kid to show me how that paint shops works.

[Don Bessee]

Those mutha mullahs are caught red handed -

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-officials-us-has-imagery-showing-an-iranian-boat-removing-an-unexploded-mine-from-one-of-tankers/ar-AACQs3Z?ocid=spartanntp

;-)

[Paul Emery]

Gosh and golly Fish thanks for reposting. Tromps lie. By the way what happened?

[Walt]

Paul forgets how GOV works. Remind us Paul,, just who is writing the budget these days?
Would you like Trump to shut down the works till your Sister gives in? (you didn't answer that the last time) Too tough to deal with?
Works for me!
He's a politicization now.No one is perfect.

[Bill Tozer]

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the Lefty mainstream media is a bit touchy lately and rather defensive? Odd. They are coming out of the woodwork in every direction to say, yes, we are relevant.
This all started at the release of Levin’s new exhaustive book “Unfreedom Of The Press”, which hit #1 on the NYT’s best seller list...#1 in hard bound, download, podcast...all the formats

It’s like they (you know who you are) are running a big ole orchestrated ad campaign. Like, ‘You are in good hands with Allstate” or “Come back to Jamaica”. They really want us to know that we can trust them, they care about us and are devoted solely to “the American people”...come on back, the waters warm. Less animated.

They act all butthurt, like they got bruises now on their upper arms and don’t like being treated with scorn...no sire, not to mention a blend of ridicule seasoned liberally with contempt. They ain’t taking it gracefully. But, they never have.
After Acosta heard about the laugh track added to the video below, he blurted out something about being sick and tired of Trump mocking the media. :)

https://www.theblaze.com/unleashed/jim-acosta-says-that-cnn-is-pro-truth-not-anti-trump?fbclid=IwAR0f49pOhSd8hUSoqGivKgbiojA4KwX9ewfmkEaZwXGwhYh3L8QfOqHPsts

[Paul Emery]

It was his campaign promises Walt. liar in Cheif

[Don Bessee]

The crack KVMR po' ol' fakenewsman is stuck on the talking points for lefty from the past (Alzheimer's/dementia?) and is totally unequipped to have a dialogue on the biggest stories in the world.

Brexit, economy, Iran starting a war, SCOTUS decisions..... Crickets or Dr. R's CCC either way its pathetic.

;-)

[Paul Emery]

Sad the tea pretty disappeared. They would have been all over Trump.

[Don Bessee]

Facebook adopts the chi coms social credit system and you should be afraid, very afraid -

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/06/13/exclusive-facebooks-process-to-label-you-a-hate-agent-revealed/

;-)

[Don Bessee]

KVMR must be so proud @632 - Does the congressional freedom caucus ring a bell? The love this administration!

;-)

[Bill Tozer]

‘Sad the tea pretty disappeared’

Nah, just morphed into Deplorables. Got tired of being accused endlessly of wheeling granny off the cliff with her legs kicking up and her putting up such a fuss. Long time no come see with the Grinch grin. Nah, those days are gone. Much funner this way. It is better to give than to receive. Enjoy your one party state. You are doing just fine.
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2 Quotes

Pelosi told Donald that she wants to see him in prison. Trump relied, “I’d love to come visit you.”

Graham: “Trump Was Wrong To Say He'd Take Intel From Foreign Agent, And Hillary Was Wrong To Actually Do It”

BREAKING NEWS! SARAH GONE! TRUMP HIRES NEW PRESS SECRETARY

https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-picks-alex-jones-new-press-secretary?fbclid=IwAR3P4SEQkY5Zoshx4oruPH9cSugH9WrvwCaeOAbnvofaBW4buvXnHMw35zA

See, it’s funner this way. Sucks to be you.

[Don Bessee]

True dat brother! -

https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019/06/13/henry-olsen-fdrs-new-deal-is-closer-to-reaganism-than-sanders-socialism/

;-)

[Huck Flynn]

fish
"Trump was going to have a balanced budget and pay off the debt in 10 years. Gosh and golly, what happened Walt???"

Yeah Walt, what happened? Did you enjoy that tax cut? How about them embargoes and tariffs? Price of steel and aluminum have kind of sucked. At B&C, $50.00 for the same box of deck screws that cost $35.00 last year? Thanks Trump. Think I'll wait to start this project.

How about them gun brokers going belly up because the arms merchants couldn't stoke the fear factor? Never fear, just blow up a few ships in the Gulf of Oman, or was it the Tonkin Gulf, or was it Havana Harbor, they all run together anymore. . . I can't keep it straight. Anyway arms deals will be on the rise and modern day Rebane's will once again be able to sell munitions and for their blood stained golden parachutes.

[fish]

Posted by: Huck Flynn | 13 June 2019 at 06:58 PM

I really like it when your crazy is all over the map! There’s a certain zany appeal to it!

Should have bought those deck screws earlier......!

[Don Bessee]

So now its in black and white that the socialist dem anti-Semites and the jihadis run the congress now but not the Senate!!! Way to go Senators!! -

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-passes-resolution-condemning-anti-semitism-after-house-cant-bring-itself-to-do-same

;-)

[fish]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 13 June 2019 at 06:32 PM

Not to worry Punchy.......you can get to work reconstituting the Tea Party right after you resurrect the California Republicans!

Pulling for you Punch!

[Bill Tozer]

Well, one gun manufacture did just declare bankruptcy in the last day or two. The dumbshits thought Hillary would win and stocked up on inventory to the rafters and got extra shifts going with bank loans and Hillary lost. Now, they can’t get rid of their inventory and pay off their debts to Mr. Moneybags. Oppps.

Walt always attracts some weirdos. Turn on the lights and you attract all sorts of bugs. Probably one of your NextDoorPenn Valley secret admirers, roflmao. Now Walt, don’t being bringing your trash over here. :)

[Bill Tozer]

Whoa Nelly, the dam is bustin’.

“At B&C, $50.00 for the same box of deck screws that cost $35.00 last year? Thanks Trump.”

Sucks to be you. Who pays retail nowadays? I just use my generous contractors’ discount. I ain’t no contractor, only insinuated I am. Works every time. They never check on the good guys. Gotta dress the part. Let’s just say it more than covers the CA sales tax. I be Taxed Enough Already. This is State of Jefferson territory.

Which reminds me. I figured out the only reason Swalwell is still in the race. He makes all you beta males feel good about yourselves and makes the rest of us feel like Alpha males, buckwheat. Keep him around.

[Huck Flynn]

Toxer-
Good on you for ripping off locally owned small businesses. Isn't even in my mind set. Must make you feel good, like a proper Republican should.

[Walt]

Don't blame the Nevada City and NSJ infiltrators on me.
It's just the same old TROLLS that have shed their reptilian skin.
Paul is on his last rawhide. No more to shed. He's down to raw bone.

[Huck Flynn]

T ozer #2-
You remind me of when I was quite a bit younger and decked one of my workers for stealing a pipe wrench sitting on the floor of a job tractor of a small time excavator. He said he did it because the operator could afford it. I have never seen right to steal or (wink wink) deceive a small business owner - I am one. In my mind you are a bastard.

[Don Bessee]

Hands up don't shoot, uh wait, not so much -

A 20-year-old black man whose Wednesday shooting death by a fugitive task force sparked a night of violence and unrest in a Memphis, Tenn., neighborhood, was wanted for a shooting in Mississippi, according to media reports.
DeSoto County District Attorney John Champion said Brandon Webber was wanted on aggravated assault and armed robbery charges related to a shooting during a car theft in Hernando, Miss., on June 3. The victim was shot five times and survived, Champion said.

Hernando is 35 miles south of Memphis.
U.S. Marshals with the Gulf Coast Regional Fugitive Task Force went looking for Webber at a home in Memphis' Frayser neighborhood Wednesday. They spotted him getting inside a vehicle, which he used to ram task force vehicles several times, officials said.

Police retreat under a cloud of tear gas as protesters disperse from the scene of a standoff after Frayser community residents took to the streets in anger against the shooting of a youth by U.S. Marshals earlier in the evening, Wednesday, June 12, 2019, in Memphis, Tenn. (Jim Weber/Daily Memphian via AP)

Webber was shot and killed when he got out of the vehicle holding a weapon, Tennessee authorities said. It was not clear how many times he was hit or how many shots were fired.
News of Webber's death prompted a night of clashes between police and residents in the neighborhood.

Around 36 police officers suffered minor injuries due to bricks and rocks being thrown at them and several police vehicles were damaged. Several officers were taken to hospitals and were later released, according to a Memphis Police Department tweet.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/man-shot-and-killed-by-us-marshals-was-wanted-in-mississippi-in-connection-with-shooting

;-)

[Walt]

OOzzz disappears and the racist "Huck Finn" shows up.
(pulled from all the librarys)

[Huck Flynn]

Ah Wally boy-
Huck Finn, Rock Hudson, you morons have proven time and again your reading comprehension is that of a 3 year old.

[Todd Juvinall]

Little Hucky is a troll. Where do these fools come from?

[Bill Tozer]

Oh my, I am sooo wounded. Take it up with Scott. He chased me down, grabbed my, sleeve, pulled hard, and took me over to a private register and set up the account himself. I told him not to worry about it, but he was quite persistent. I be teacher’s pet. It’s not fair! There are advantages to being Injun Joe, Huck. No advantages in being white. Just ask Obama or Colin.
Go ahead and pay retail. Knock yourself out. And pay all those CA. sales taxes for me. Tanks. Tanks a rocket.

But, it’s true. I am quite the bastard. If you only knew, if you only knew. Takes more imagination than you were not gifted with. I be a bastard. It’s true, it’s truuue. You should see what I do with those with manbuns. Oh, shudder the thought. Things no Teddy Bear ought ever see. Mercy.

[fish]

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 13 June 2019 at 08:03 PM

We like trolls Todd! Good ones!

I’ll just leave it at that.........

[Walt]

Same asswipe new name. So the "do not post" embargo has been lifted.
Let the TROLL hunt begin! I got my TROLL be good stick right here.

[Walt]

Take it up with your snowflake LIB pals "Huck",,
Seems you missed the memo.
"Huckleberry Finn is frequently cited as one of the most censored books in American literature for offensive language and racism. [1] This often results in schools banning the book from their curriculum. In 2011, Twain scholar Alan Gribben attempted to make the novel more appropriate for school-aged readers by publishing an edited version".
https://www.lib.latrobe.edu.au/ojs/index.php/tlg/article/view/318/315

Read it a few times over the years.

You had workers? I doubt that VARY much. Big talk for a little TROLL.

[Don Bessee]

Am I the only one who notices that the sock puppets can not engage in debate but just sound like well known snivelers?

;-)

[Bill Tozer]

A small business owner bitching about a box of deck nails, lol. What makes think you can afford the good lumber or redwood if you can’t even buy the screws. Yeh, it’s all Orange Man Bad’s fault. Are you related to Hillary or something? Oh my. Try growing pot or something. What you need is a prudent reserve.

I do believe Rock Huckson is dripping in incredulous moral outrage....so much so he is starting to lisp up or something. Spittle everywhere. Show down there, Billy Bibbit, before you blow a brain vessel. Livid means to change colors. Now you look like Injun Joe, the Red Man. Oh, wallow in the justifiable anger roll around in it. You wear it sooo good. Now say it, don’t spray it.

If you makes you feel better, I don’t go to there hardly ever anymore. Nope. I get 40% discount at other places. Nice places. Opps, you said B&C? I was thinking of another place. Who would in their right mind go there? Too,expensive. My mistake. Who That is no way prudent reserve be a good steward of your money. No sireee. I see a mistake right off the top. Reduce expenses, increase income, or a combination of both. Oh course, you have to make or do something people want. Beans and rice, rice and beans for you.

[Don Bessee]

You mutha mullahs, we got ya now! Abe must be royally pissed! -

“At 8:09 a.m. local time a U.S. aircraft observed an IRGC Hendijan class patrol boat and multiple IRGC fast attack craft/fast inshore attack craft (FAC/FIAC) in the vicinity of the M/T Altair [one of the damaged tankers],” he said.

About 9:12 a.m., Urban said, U.S. aircrew saw those Iranians pull a raft from the water after the attack.

The Altair’s crew had been rescued by a cargo ship. At 9:26 a.m., the Iranians asked the crew of the cargo ship, the Hyundai Dubai, to hand over the Altair mariners and they complied, Urban said. Meanwhile, mariners from the other attacked tanker, the Kokuka Courageous, had been rescued by a nearby tug. Urban said the Iranians tried to reach the tug first, but they were outrun by the guided missile Bainbridge, which took the rescued mariners aboard.

“While the Hendijan patrol boat appeared to attempt to get to the tug Coastal Ace before USS Bainbridge, the mariners were rescued by USS Bainbridge,” Urban said.

Four hours later, “an IRGC Gashti Class patrol boat approached the M/T Kokuka Courageous and was observed and recorded removing the unexploded limpet mine from the M/T Kokuka Courageous,” he said.

https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2019/06/pompeo-blames-tanker-attacks-iran-offers-no-evidence/157719/?oref=d-topstory

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-blames-iran-for-attack-on-oil-tankers-releases-video-purporting-to-show-iranians-removing-mine/ar-AACOYdf?ocid=spartanntp

:-0

[Huck Flynn]

Pretty insightful that I can bring up three different topics currently on the world stage and all you can do is rally about Huck Finn (Flynn is not Finn) and trolls. You might as well be mynah birds. Or rabbits in the headlights. Do you think Iran is responsible for mining tankers in the gulf? Of course you do. Just like you did in Viet Nam and in Cuba. Maybe if you think for a second, you could tell us what is in it for them? Do they want to engage the US on their soil? If you are a war profiteer, of course that's what you want the world to believe.

[Bill Tozer]

Walt, he’s all yours. He’s all warmed up and ready to roll. . He’s is going off on the Russian funded Peace Movement again. They all do. All that war money could be spent on Tiny Tim and his adopted retarded twin sisters.

[Bill Tozer]

They must be getting nervous. They sent Susan Rice out today to whip up the drumbeat about foreign influence in the WH. Oh, rest assured we will see Susan again, but in a different setting. A whole different setting and it won’t be the talking heads asking her the questions. Been waiting for her. Boy, Sally Yates has been laying low. Wonder who they are going to trot out next? Carville? Michelle?

Surprised no one picked this up all day. Just been sitting there since this morning. Gun free zones are not good for one’s health.

https://freebeacon.com/issues/gun-free-zone-stopped-va-beach-victim-from-carrying-pistol-to-work-lawyer-says/

[Don Bessee]

The troll regurgitates all over the floor and laps it up -

"Just like you did in Viet Nam and in Cuba. Maybe if you think for a second, you could tell us what is in it for them?"

That must be one old ass troll! Cuba? LOL! Those mutha mullahs suffer from generations long group think like all dictatorships. They must have listened to 0's secretary lurch and the socialist dems and grossly miscalculated. Time to put down the rabid dog now that they are broke and have been unable to pay the proxies for a long while and have no depth of anything to last.

Its pretty much imposable to hide anything anymore with the layers of technology especially with the numbers of eyes on the gulf.

Remember the Russian BUK anti aircraft battery that shot down the airliner over Ukraine was undone by social media meta data on the crews facebook picture postings and locals tracking its movement by picture posting. Including the one where it was heading home minus one missile or didn't that make the talking points for trolls?

We have mutual defense agreements with the NATO article 5 countries and Japan who's vessels were attacked. DUH!

Don't we have to stand up for our allies as the dems have yelled for 3 years? Hypocrites.

;-)

[Don Bessee]

A good night snack.

That deer in the headlights look has a basis in fear and she should be afraid of the next cycle, even the dems are going primary her -

U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s spokesman sent a profane tweet to a potential Republican challenger as he ripped him for wanting to debate his boss.

“Yo @RichValdes what in the actual f--- makes you think you’re entitled to a debate with AOC,” spokesman Corbin Trent tweeted Sunday at the conservative talk radio producer who’s mulling a run against the freshman congresswoman.

Earlier that day, Valdes said he tried to challenge Ocasio-Cortez to a debate on the merits of capitalism versus socialism as they both marched in the National Puerto Rican Day Parade. Valdes claims the democratic socialist “jetted to the other side of street” when he tried to approach her.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-spokesman-tweets-then-deletes-f-bomb-rant-against-potential-gop-challenger

;-)

[Walt]

Viet Nam? Us???? That was a Democrat's war. They showed how they fight a war, to lose. Telling the enemy just where we were going to attack was such a good idea. Take a hill,, just to give it back.. Then fight to take it again days later.(over and over again)

ya "huck",, Blame the Repubs.

I can't wait to hear you sing the praises of "O" and his war tactics. So good, the Russians had to go in to actually get something done.

[Bill Tozer]

Don.
Seems like just yesterday that the sky was falling cause mean oleTrump wanted NATO members and specially Germany, the largest economic powerhouse in the EU and de facto leader of old Europe, to pay their long agreed upon fair share. Oh my,poor poor poor Germany not only Welched on their word to pay 2% of GDP for NATO defense (from the current laughable 1.4%), the Krauts reneged on that and said FU, we are going to lower the tab to 1%! How absolutely European of them.
Everybody wants security and for us pay for the ride so they can go play house and pick out Muslim baby names.
Can’t touch NATO, cannot not keep out indigent illiterate in any and all languages unskilled 17-year old girls with 3 kids from the country, can’t, can’t, can’t. Oh look at those,puppies. They are so cute.
Gotta pay for everybody to sit around the barn and eat up the hay. The dollar can only stretch so far. But the rich folks have dollars!!

No wonder they are obsessed with taxing the rich. Totally full blown OCD obsessed with taxing rich folks. Tax ‘em, Tax ‘em, tax the pants off of them!!! Make them pay for it all! We must get our hands on their money. Must get rich folks money! Must! Must get hands in their pockets. Must get hands in their poczzzzzzzz.. Darn. Time to change the batteries on the cute little Energizer Bunnies...again. Now, a one and a two, hit it boys...all together now, “Must Get Hands in their pockets, Must Get Hands in their Pockets, Must!” Second verse same as the first.

[Scott O]

HF at 9:15 - "Maybe if you think for a second, you could tell us what is in it for them?"
They sell oil and after the attack, the price of oil went up.
Iran has used mines in the recent past against commercial ships in that area.
Why don't we wait and see what other evidence comes in?
Or is Huck claiming people in the US govt would lie?
Gasp!!
I thought the left completely trusts our govt and believes everything all of its agents say. Or is it only when it's convenient?

[Huck Flynn]

Wally-
Where did you read the word Republican? Your reading comprehension continues to slide.

I was talking to war profiteers. Blood merchants. Havana Harbor is too ancient history to be relevant with your ability to rationalize conflict?? How about Colin Powell's presentation? The grainy picture "proof" of baby food factories punching out nuclear weapons look about the same as the grainy picture "proof" of Iran blowing up oil tankers.

[Todd Juvinall]

Looks like Hucky has been on the River with Jim and is now turned. Trolls like Hucky are worthless to the threads and are as unintelligent as a goose.

[Walt]

Name names Hucky "war profiteers" is SO Proggy nondescript..
And George Bush himself swam out to the tankers and placed those limpet mines.

[Scott O]

From Huck - "I was talking to war profiteers."
And what did they say, Huck?

[Huck Flynn]

"I was talking to war profiteers."

Scott "What did they say?"

Wally replied, "ya "huck",, Blame the Repubs."

There you have it from one of your own. "War profiteers" immediately invokes the word Republican. I didn't say it. Wally did. I am not so limited in my opinion. Plenty of war profiteers and blood merchants on the left. Of course not a person has responded intelligently to my query, only bluster, bluff and diversions.

[George Rebane]

HuckF 923am - Other than asking you to give some evidence for your assertions Mr Flynn, what would an intelligent response be to your somewhat remarkable statement? Firing a torpedo and/or placing a limpet charge on the hull of a moving tanker reduces the number of perpetrators to a very few who could do it for political gain. I'm not aware of any private sector "war profiteers" who maintain such deployed offensive capabilities, but do know of several nations that have that capability. It is hard to believe that our Navy does not know how those ships were attacked. We have an attack sub on station there, and I'd bet the farm that Hormuz already has a very sophisticated sonar array installed (similar to the one in the GIUK gap) which tracks every waterborne object in that strait.

It is easy to generate a plausible scenario for Iran being the perpetrator, given the stress caused by our sanctions, their interest in testing the coalition's resolve, and the requirement to maintain internal stability between Iran's mullahs and revolutionary military. BTW, the displayed hull damage to the ships was NOT caused by a modern fleet torpedo which would easily have penetrated the tankers' double hulls. These explosives were designed and deployed to pique and irritate for political purposes.

[Walt]

Look at the butthurt LIBS!!! They can go find new work.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/14/sonny-perdue-silent-protest-kansas-city/
You can spot and ECO LIB a mile away.

[fish]

Posted by: Walt | 14 June 2019 at 10:39 AM

"The ERS and NIFA are currently located in Washington, D.C., and are research agencies within the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA). The USDA plans to move the agencies, including their 550 research jobs, to Kansas City, in a move to save taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars, according to CNN."

You'd think that they would be happy to bail out of DC and the surrounding swampburbs!

But you're right, if they don't like it they're free to slug it out on the job market! Shouldn't be hard to find something else where they are now!

[Scott O]

from Huck - "Of course not a person has responded intelligently to my query,..."
I did and BTW, you haven't responded to my query at all.
But you know all about those 'blood merchants' even though you can't name a single one and can provide no answer to who did damage those ships.
Oh I know, facts are just the evil tools of whiteness.
It's the 'bigger truth' that's important, right?

[Gregory]

Naaah, "Huck" 923am, a sock puppet like yourself spouting the usual leftist lines makes folks like Walt substitute Republicans for "War Profiteers" as what you were thinking.

For everyone else, 15 Quatloos says "Huck Flynn" is Michael P. Anderson.

[Don Bessee]

Yup -

Iran tanker attack: Donald Trump, Mike Pompeo should follow Ronald Reagan's lead

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/06/14/iran-tanker-attack-gulf-oman-trump-pompeo-limpet-mine-column/1454722001/

;-)

[Don Bessee]

TROLL TRAP - So if they are not guilty then why hold a crew for 2 day and then there is this right now in international waters? -

https://news.yahoo.com/iran-fast-boats-preventing-towing-172645238.html;_ylt=Awr9DtHs8gNdEqwAcpVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEydTVkajVpBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjY4MzNfMQRzZWMDc3I-

;-)

[Don Bessee]

What does the BBC say? -

Iran has come under massive economic pressure over the past year, since US President Donald Trump unilaterally withdrew from the 2015 nuclear deal and re-imposed some of the most aggressive sanctions in US foreign policy history - targeting Iran's oil sales, wider energy industry, shipping, banking, insurance and more.

But the re-imposition of sanctions recently by the US has significantly ratcheted up the pressure on Iran, pressure that would go some way to explaining why it might seek to threaten the international oil trade, while its own oil sits bounded by its borders.

The risk of such a strategic move is significant - the fallout is potential military escalation with the US and its allies in the region.

It is not a gamble that would have been made quickly or lightly.
It would have been taken by consensus by all the main heads of the different Iranian political institutions, with Iran's Islamic Revolution Guards (IRGC) playing a significant part given their influence over all regional dossiers, and the supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, having the final say over all matters of security and international affairs.

Iran may suspect that the risk is lower than it first seems, because Mr Trump does not want a war.

If strategic patience is in fact at an end, Iran may feel that only by displaying the range and scale of its potential destabilising activities - including disruption of the international oil trade it has been barred from - can it increase its leverage with the US, and pull itself out from under the punishing sanctions its old foe has imposed.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48642401

;-)

[Don Bessee]

Buddy can you spare a dime?

Bloomberg) -- The Democratic National Committee has a money problem. And that could hurt its nominee’s chances of beating President Donald Trump in 2020.

In the first four months of 2019, the party spent more than it raised and added $3 million in new debt. In the same period, its Republican counterpart was stockpiling cash.

https://news.yahoo.com/democrats-apos-2020-odds-against-080000889.html

;-)

[Don Bessee]

Those mutha mullahs just can not help themselves -

The crew of the Norwegian-owned tanker Front Altair has been held by the Iranians for nearly 48 hours after they were first rescued by another merchant vessel following attacks on oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman early Thursday, according to U.S. officials.

The detention of the 23 sailors follows attacks on Front Altair and another oil tanker that the U.S. pinned on Iran, calling it an attempt to escalate tensions in the regi

The crew of the Norwegian ship was first rescued by the Hyundai Dubai, according to U.S. officials, but Iranian gunboats quickly surrounded the ship and demanded the crew be turned over. The captain ultimately relented and ordered his crew to surrender.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/tanker-crew-were-detained-by-iran-after-first-being-rescued-by-another-vessel-us-officials

;-)

[Don Bessee]

Neutering those mutha mullahs lie machine -

Twitter announced on Thursday it has shuttered some 4,800 accounts with ties to the government of Iran. The company said the accounts were engaged in spreading disinformation and propaganda that “benefited the diplomatic and geostrategic views of the Iranian state.”

Twitter found 2,865 Iran-linked accounts which “employed a range of false personas to target conversations about political and social issues in Iran and globally.” Of the banned accounts, 300 were “focused on influencing discussions related to Israel.” The banned accounts collectively generated about two million tweets.

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/06/14/twitter-removes-4800-accounts-linked-iranian-government/

;-)

[Huck Flynn]

Rebane 10:07
"I'm not aware of any private sector "war profiteers" who maintain such deployed offensive capabilities." Bullshit.

Now you are flying your true colors of obfuscation. But that's what you did for a living. Correct me if I'm wrong that you worked for the "defense" industry helping develop weapons that only make money when there is conflict. Bottom line depends on it. . How deeply intrenched are "private sector" profiteers with our government? Basically one in the same. Please tell us that mercenaries and contracted militia are not trained, equipped, and funded by the government to do exactly the kind of things like covertly mining shipping lanes and launching torpedoes acquired from a hostile nation in the name of plausible deniability. Of course you'll say "I know nothink".

[Don Bessee]

You can bet whoever missed that shot to stop the drone video getting out is hanging from a crane right now! -

Iranian boat fired missile at US drone prior to tanker attack, US official says

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/14/politics/us-drone-tracked-iranian-boats/index.html

;-)

[Don Bessee]

What size tinfoil hat does the troll wear?
=======================================================

Bad news for the pony tail of ignorance -

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mnuchin-on-solid-ground-in-withholding-trump-tax-returns-justice-department/ar-AACTwuS?ocid=spartandhp

;-)

[Huck Flynn]

Funny how CNN, the proprietor of fake news and the mouth piece for the Deep State is never to be trusted, until they say something you want to hear.

[Gregory]

Now, "Huck", you know how the citation game is played... use a source your opponent finds pure as the driven snow 'cause sure as shit, they'll attack the source if it isn't.

For everyone else, 25 Quatloos say Huck is Michael P. Anderson.

[Huck Flynn]

CNN is simply the mouthpiece, the "source" is the US government. I don't trust it to tell me the truth for a single second. And that has nothing to do with Democrats or Republicans.

[Walt]

Still no names of those "war profiteers".
Tell us Huckleberry, I want to buy their stock before the shooting starts!
Just which private contractor is operating out of Aria 51?
Some real cool shit has been spotted there.

Pissed at Boeing? General Dynamics? General Electric?
Portsmouth Shipyards?

The real good anti tank missiles come from my cousins the Swedes.

No stomach for war Huckleberry? You can always play "O", and go apologize to the Iranians for the incriminating video we shot.

Now how come the ECO bastards have yet to make a peep about the oil spills?

[Walt]

BTW Huckleberry, Better have your LIB friends down in Sac fork up the money to pay the farmers that had their land "grabbed" for Moonbat's choo choo. So where did the money go? No real track laid to speak of. But PLENTY of "studies".

[Don Bessee]

Ah yes, fell into the troll trap. Nothing to dispute the facts the mutha mullahs are swarming the area denying the salvage companies access and snatching the crew from a rescue freighter and parading them on tv.

When everyone sees the same thing trolls are left with nothing! LOL

Sounds like a closet mutha mullahs cuddler.

;-)

[Bill Tozer]

@ 2:59 pm

Ah, the pot has sweetened. First it was 10 Quatloos, then 15, now 25 Quatloos. Very telling.
——————
“CNN is simply the mouthpiece, the "source" is the US government”. Must be a typo or something. Better help the angry white dude out.

“CNN is simply the mouthpiece, the "source" is the Leftinistas.” There, fixed it for ya. No thanks necessary.

[Huck Flynn]

"Pentagon sources reveal". Yep. Them's "Leftinistas" if you say so.

[Huck Flynn]

OOOPS! Captain of the ship and eyewitnesses say report of limpet mines and Trump's video of Iranians removing mine simply didn't happen. An alternate truth. Who shall we believe?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/japanese-ship-owner-contradicts-us-account-of-how-tanker-was-attacked/2019/06/14/7ea347d0-8eba-11e9-b6f4-033356502dce_story.html?utm_term=.60abf51a727e

[Don Bessee]

You mean the crew that are Iranian captives?

;-)

[Gregory]

toes 425p

Yessiree Bob, the pot's getting bigger...the only thing missing are rants about the Trump crime family.

[Don Bessee]

If you look closely at the Iranian video of the crewmen kidnapped off their rescue ship they are being tortured. You can see the ayatollah ranting on the flats screen in the room.

;-)

[Don Bessee]

Saw this and thought the troll should be aware -

https://yubanet.com/regional/ncso-warns-of-phone-scam-targeting-sex-offender-registrants/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+YubanetRegional+%28YubaNet.com+-+Sierra+Nevada+News%29

;-)

[Walt]

Gotta love this LIB thinking.. Yup, you can have that dope... But don't you DARE use it!!
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/14/court-california-law-allows-prison-inmates-to-legally-possess-marijuana/

I guess the prison guards will be issued scales. "That bag better weigh the same it did at last check."

[Bill Tozer]

5:07 pm

Don, that’s funny. Funnier that watching the clip I just watched, “Mika Brzezinski Suffers EPIC Meltdown Over ‘Evil’ ‘Dictator’ Trump”. That had me rolling, but yours was better.

Fingernails on the blackboard time!

We need more nuclear power plants, but quick. One nuclear plant is equivalent to 17 of those gawd awful giant solar field that destroy our environment. Nuclear is the way to go, better for our environment, a fraction of the footprint, more reliable that wind or solar will be in a 100 years.

USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA.

Christians.

Conservatives

50 bucks for a box of screws.

What do you call two liberal dope smoking chicks in a waterbed? Bay of Pigs.

All lives matter.

Government is the employer of last resort.

Santa Cruz is a shithole.

[Don Bessee]

Lindsey aint taking no mullah shit -

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/06/14/graham-to-trump-make-iran-feel-pain-hit-a-refinery-sink-their-navy/

;-)

[Bill Tozer]

@ 5:55 pm

From your link, I found this link:

“This has implications for reservoirs operated around the state, including Oroville and Prado Dam. “The Orange County Water District is grateful to Senator Dodd and Assemblymember Wood for their efforts in securing funding for FIRO research,” stated Vicente Sarmiento, president of OCWD. “With better weather forecasting, an additional 20,000 acre-feet of storage space could be made available for stormwater capture behind Prado Dam without impacting flood risk. Doing so would allow OCWD to capture and use an additional 20,000 acrefeet or 6.5 billion gallons of stormwater in a wet year which would otherwise drain to the Pacific Ocean. That’s enough water for 160,000 people.”

“This essential investment in public safety and sustainable water management shows true leadership and is vitally important as California works to address the challenges of climate change,” said Curt Aikens, general manager of Yuba Water Agency.

“Scripps and the coalition have also embarked on a multi-phase federal scoping study in collaboration with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to assess the viability of using FIRO for reservoirs in the southwest United States, where the majority of rainfall often occurs in three to four storms per year.

“Many members of the coalition have worked to optimize the amount of water stored behind reservoirs and dams to recharge as much of the limited rainfall as possible into groundwater basins and reservoirs. Large rainfall events caused by atmospheric rivers are a major source of water supply in southern California.”

https://yubanet.com/regional/unprecedented-funding-for-research-into-atmospheric-rivers-and-stormwater-capture-in-california-approved-by-legislature/

That’s enough water for 160,000 people? Well, that just got wiped out with our open borders policy. Not even enough to cover two months of illegals flooding in.

[Bill Tozer]

It’s seem like just a few months ago everyone was singing John McCain’s praises to the rooftops, saying he walked on water and all. It seems like just last week that the entire lamestream media was freaking out that Trump and the evil mustached one, John R. Bolton, were dragging us into a war with Iran. Guess you can’t have it both ways.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg

Personally, I stay away from the new-cons and the illiberals. One thing for sure, you will never see this President bow to a foreign Prime Minister or welcome the Muslim Brotherhood anywhere near the White House.

[Don Bessee]

So the fakenewsmen and haters claimed there was no supplemental part to the mexico migrant accord? Wrong beyotches -

Mexico City (AFP) - Mexico published the document Friday that US President Donald Trump fleetingly showed the press this week as evidence he had extracted tough new concessions on migration from the neighboring country.

Trump theatrically waved the one-page document in front of reporters Tuesday, fending off critics who said his use of tariff threats to force Mexico into a deal on curbing migration had in fact extracted little in the way of new commitments from the Mexican side.

Photojournalists managed to capture a few sentences of the document, but the full contents had not previously been revealed.

The document is a "supplementary agreement" to the deal the US and Mexico signed last Friday, and outlines additional measures the two sides agree to take.

The two countries "will immediately begin discussions to establish definitive terms for a binding bilateral agreement to further address burden-sharing and the assignment of responsibility for processing refugee status claims of migrants," it says.

Under that "binding bilateral agreement," the countries "would accept the return, and process refugee status claims, of third-party nationals who have crossed that party's territory to arrive" in the neighboring country, it says.

That language appears to resemble Trump's demand for a "safe third country" agreement in which migrants entering Mexican territory would have to seek asylum there, not the United States, and be immediately deported to Mexico if they entered the US.

The document adds that the agreement would be "part of a regional approach" to dealing with undocumented migrants and refugees.

"Mexico also commits to immediately begin examining domestic laws and regulations with a view to identifying any changes that may be necessary to bring into force and implement such an agreement," it says.

;-)

[Bill Tozer]

The Jews!

https://www.dailywire.com/news/48365/dem-seattle-mayor-silent-jewish-conservative-hank-berrien

Good job, US Senate.
https://www.oann.com/senate-passes-anti-semitism-bill/

[Walt]

Well well.... A drugy found with drugs on HIGH St. in Nevada City.
https://www.theunion.com/news/routine-patrol-by-nevada-city-police-leads-to-felony-drug-arrest/
" Nevada City police to find almost an ounce of suspected methamphetamine on High Street"
What a great picture of Nevada City's "high" society.

What a buzz kill for the party seine in Nevada City this weekend.

[Don Bessee]

Drop in the bucket @ 738!

;-)

[George Rebane]

HuckF 202pm - Now our intrepid leftinista has accused our defense industry of training and commissioning mercenaries to create international incidents that would start a war from which the defense industry will profit. Until he comes up with even a shred of evidence to support that outlandish claim, this conversation is over.

[Walt]

Dr.R.. Evedence be damned. It's the seriousness of the charge. That's all that matters. That's how LIBs like Huckleberry roll.
Make up some wild ass claim and demand it be proven wrong.
They have no intention of producing facts.(because non exist)

Just like his "awareness" of the situation of the Proggy invited invasion at the border.

[Huck Flynn]

Good lord George, "outlandish" so we won't discuss it? Cutting too close to the quick are we? Nip this at the bud.

How about starting with the Mexican War? Or as Wally claimed earlier regarding blowing up the USS Maine, that's reaching too far into history? Is Bay of Pigs close enough? How about Nicaragua, Guatemala, the Dominican Republic, Grenada, Chile, Argentina or Panama, for starters just in our hemisphere. ALL were preluded with US trained and funded agents. All were infiltrated for American economic interests.

Conversation over? And your entire foundation for this blog is about evoking political conversation. Unless of course you don't like where it's headed.

[Gregory]

55 Quatloos

[Todd Juvinall]

Oh Hucky, it has been a tough century being the world's policeman.

[Scott O]

The Huckster at 10:26 - "Conversation over? And your entire foundation for this blog is about evoking political conversation. Unless of course you don't like where it's headed."
You've been asked to provide the names of the 'blood merchants' you claim are behind the ship attacks in the straight. Please name them and their method of delivery and also explain why Iran has kidnapped the crew of one of the ships.
Otherwise you have nothing but conjecture.
And you look foolish by ignoring that Iran constantly is threatening the exact action that took place and that they did indeed mine the straights in the past.

[Walt]

Just when did the Maine come up? Christ, your so full of shit.
As for that, what's in the history books just ain't good enough.
What next? It was American pilots in dressed up aircraft (sold by Howard Hughes)that really attacked Pearl Harbor. Just to get us into WWII.

[Walt]

This week's winner of wannabe President's dumbest idea IS,,,,,
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/14/orourke-president-orourke-will-take-executive-action-to-end-new-oil-and-gas-leases-on-federal-lands/
"Robert “Beto” O’Rourke will fight climate change through executive action “when” he is elected by ending new leases for oil and gas production on federal lands.

Yet the Proggys claim Trump is a dictator?
What's stopping any Proggy from declaring ANY FED land "off limits" to public use? Name your excuse.... NOPE,, FIRE danger is too high... NOPE,, AGW... NOPE,, endangered critters..

[George Rebane]

re HuckF 1026pm - This sackhead has now shown himself to be a real lightweight among the usual leftwing lightweights who attempt debate here (BTW, there are some worthy ones also). Of course, these local lackeys only consume their blindered outlets, so he and his never see the complete spectrum of news. In this case it includes a US Navy video showing an Iranian fast boat blatantly removing an unexploded hull (limpet) mine from a tanker at sea that it had placed there earlier so as not to leave evidence of its provenance. What is doubly remarkable about worthies like HuckF is that they don't even reliably canvas their own outlets for news that would aid them in not making complete fools of themselves in public. Here's a report from WaPo as an example.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/iran-slams-us-calls-claims-of-tanker-attackseconomic-terrorism/2019/06/14/b94c1ece-8e16-11e9-b6f4-033356502dce_story.html?utm_term=.8429b893946a

See also the 15jun19 WSJ for another report.

[Walt]

Might as well help Huckleberry out!
https://listverse.com/2014/11/10/10-inside-jobs-that-governments-blamed-on-enemies/

Looks like this is where he started. Dude..... Your one gullible somebitch.

[fish]

This is so silly it has to be satire.....progressives......Hah!!

"Dear Amy: This week, I discovered that my intelligent, hard-working, responsible 24-year-old daughter (who lives with me) is a gun owner! And it’s not a normal gun, either — it is a 40-caliber semi-automatic, and she has hollow-point bullets to go with it. Amy, this is the kind of weapon a criminal would possess! She says it is for emergencies. There have only been two home invasions in our neighborhood in the last 11 years.

I’ve given her three choices: She can either give her weapon to me, sell it or move out in three weeks. I love my daughter and would be so sad for her to move into a place that she would hardly be able to afford but now I have to lock my bedroom door at night because I don’t know what she’s going to do. Now she says that I don’t trust her, and is barely speaking to me. How can I convince her to stop endangering us?

Needless to say....read and enjoy the whole sad, sad tale!

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/worst-advice-column-ever-written/