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22 June 2019

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Paul Emery

Great sound gig in Auburn last night at a public park the result of Socialist ideas. Drove home on a Socialist highway policed by Socialst police. Today I'm doing sound for Alasdair Frasier's fiddle camp at another Socialist effort Pioneer Park. Great fun-200 fiddlers.

Barry Pruett

I think that you Paul are confusing socialism and simply the government doing things that we cannot do alone. I cannot build a highway for my personal use, but I can certainly pay for my own medical care. 😉

Bill Tozer

Punchy’s argument is straight out of what smug Democrats have even slinging over on the Liberation sites. Same argument they use against Libertarians.. Not quite word for word, but so close I can’t tell the difference. “I walk into the Post Office which I did not build..........”

One clause in the Constitution that has not been adhered to is the set aside of land for universities. Very socialistic of the evil founding fathers.

The whole emphasis behind Commie Bernie and ALL the Leftinista candidates is to soften up the uninformed (ignorant) to the notion that socialism is good. The big push is on.

Ponytail? Nay. Ponytail of ignorance? Yea.


Paul Emery

Barry

Are you saying that a working class person who has a pre existing condition can afford their own insurance without government assistance?

George Rebane

PaulE 956am - Paul, I think Barry (1001am) is trying to be ultra-gentle with your (mis)understanding of socialism that you have exhibited for years. Why such an admirer of socialism as you continue to display such a deficit is an enduring puzzle?

Gregory

Punchy 1019am

Are you making up stuff out of thin air?

There is a difference between charity and paying for one's own care. Insurance is purchased before the event one is insuring against.

Walt

Hey Emery. Get your kin to buy life insurance after you assume room temp. You know,, it's the same idea.

If think Socialism is so great, head to Venezuela. Spin your CD's there. They love your kind of music. Plenty of Socialist parks, housing, health care.

Paul Emery

Gregory

What does pre existing condition" mean to you? Important distinction. How about Cystic Fibrosis as an example.

Paul Emery

Also Gregory should an insurance company be able to cancel you once you develop an ongoing medical condition? If so where should those people go for health care?

Paul Emery

I'll pick up on your 10:29 tomorrow. Off to my sound gig. By the way Alasdair Fraser's Ceilidh in the Park is a fabulous event. 200 fiddlers. Here's a link:

https://www.stringsconcerts.com/

Todd Juvinall

A person signs a contract with a private insurance company and is bound by the contract. If it says they will boot you after a major illness then don't sign. If they tell you they don't insure for pre-existing then find one that does. Maybe you have to pay more. If a set of parents has hemophilia in their DNA trail and choose to have kids that have it, whose responsible? Maybe the parents should prepare better rather than ask their neighbors?

Gregory

Paul, what does charity mean to you? Do you think insurance companies should be considered charitable institutions that can and must pay whatever medical bills your "health care professionals" send you?

Don Bessee

Its a rumble in the socialist dem clown car -

Democrats are concerned they will have another 2016 on their hands, when the primary grew so bitter that some supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) intentionally sat on the sidelines instead of supporting the party’s eventual nominee Hillary Clinton.

They are worried that a long, bruising primary season could ultimately benefit President Trump on Election Day.

“Democrats will beat Donald Trump by making this a referendum on Donald Trump. But if they tear each other apart between now and the convention, they risk depressing their own turnout,”

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/449812-ghosts-of-2016-primary-haunt-democrats

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Bill Tozer

Punchy has left the building. Hey, Punchy will be at the park. Party at Punchy’s House. BYOSP. Bring your own spray paint. I have stencils!


Walt

Bill I will give the kids just down the street from him a Costco size supply of TP. Nothing better than a riotous TP job to come home to.
Well someone can tell the local homeless his place is free to camp on. What better than to come home and find 30 squatters in your front yard?

Bill Tozer

Walt,
TPing houses was big back in the day. ‘Twas the thing to do. Pity the poor teachers. I remember once my brother and fellow hooligan teens got caught by the police TPing a home around the bend. The cop gave us a good stern warning. When the police officer drove off, he failed to notice that the back bumper of his squad car got the TP wrap with streamers. lol. I will never forget the rear of that police car going to his next call. Some things stick. Back then, that was really being a rebel. A delinquent. Boy, times have changed. Of course, back then, a kid could walk down to the hobby shop and buy black powder and fuses. Big booms rocked my world. :). Building contractors could buy dynamite. Things have changed. Darn terrorist ruint it for everybody.

Walt

Bill. It still is.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/mom-reacts-to-kids-who-covered-house-in-toilet-paper-in-viral-facebook-post-210912618.html

At least this lady took it in stride.
"On June 14, Aubrey Dupree Seymour, of San Clemente, Calif., posted a photo of her front yard in the “San Clemente Life” Facebook Group, in which she described the toilet paper decorating her home as an “AMAZING job,” and said the youths went “ABOVE and BEYOND.” The post earning thousands of likes, shares and delighted comments thanking her for letting “kids be kids” and not taking their prank too seriously."

Emery would call the cops and call it a hate crime.

Don Bessee

IF shrillary had won this would have gone the other way, thank God she didn't -

The cross was built with private funds; but it sits on public land in a busy highway median in Prince George’s County, Maryland, just outside of the District of Columbia. The plaintiffs brought their challenge under the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause, arguing that the cross constitutes an impermissible endorsement of Christianity by the state. The Court rejected their challenge by a 7-2 majority, with the five conservatives being joined by Justices Breyer and Kagan.

The outcome was clearly correct. As Justice Alito wrote for the majority, “Even if the original purpose of a monument was infused with religion, the passage of time may obscure that sentiment.” The original religious and commemorative purposes are now accompanied by historic value and community identity. The same may be said of the rows of crosses in military cemeteries in the United States and Europe.

As Justice Alito rightly pointed out, tearing down the cross now (or removing its arms and transforming it into a secular obelisk, an alternative the plaintiffs suggested) would demonstrate government hostility toward religion, more than allowing the cross to remain in place would constitute an endorsement of religion. In Alito’s words: “A government that roams the land, tearing down monuments with religious symbolism and scrubbing away any reference to the divine will strike many as aggressively hostile to religion.”

Justices Gorsuch and Thomas added in their concurring opinion that the members of the American Humanist Association never had standing to bring the suit in the first place. Standing requires a plaintiff to suffer injury because of the challenged government action. In this case, the atheists claimed that they were offended every time they drove by the cross. But in today’s hypersensitive, politically-correct culture, many people with nothing better to do walk around being offended on a daily basis. That doesn’t amount to the kind of injury necessary to invoke the action of the federal courts.

Those of us who adhere to the original understanding of the Constitution are relieved that the cross is allowed to stand. But there’s also something troubling here – just how close we came to this case going the other way.

President Trump’s victory in the 2016 election resulted in the appointment of Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court. And that was decisive in creating the majority in this case.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/21/kobach-trumps-victory-may-have-saved-the-cross/

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George Rebane

More on our Sandbox. I do have to commend our group of commenters on the substantive nature of their topics and posts. Yes, we do admit to some interstitial crap now and then, but I have yet to see a leftwing post that picks up on topics of interest in current events and social policies to depth and extent as do our readers. This is doubly so when we compare what appears in these comment streams compared to ANY leftwing blog hereabouts. Our leftwingers have little to contribute but scorching the messengers - where are the ideas that they bring? Do they have anything to offer beyond DNC talking points?

I have always been heartened by this - sally forth!

Don Bessee

Shhhhhhhh! -

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/06/21/maher-hard-to-win-the-election-if-you-run-a-campaign-based-on-reparations-and-concentration-camps/

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Jig WIggly

Yep. Stinging, on point, right wing commentary. "Party at Punchy’s House. BYOSP. Bring your own spray paint. I have stencils!

Gregory

Juggy Wuggly 440pm

Damn, I'm all out of dead puppies for the Roadkill BBQ... could you bring them?

Walt

WOW!!! Close down the State house because there may be some Right leaning folk with guns!!!! Whata GREAT excuse!
So LIBS are scared of the 2nd Amendment's intended propose. Works for me!
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oregon-senate-closes-due-to-possible-militia-threat-after-republican-walkout

Notice the key word."possible". They had to think up someone to blame it on.

Don Bessee

There is still hope, great video as the 4th approaches -

https://www.foxnews.com/us/veterans-returning-home-from-washington-trip-serenaded-with-god-bless-america-at-rochester-airport

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Don Bessee

FDR would never buy into comrade bernnies bolshevik bulls shit -

In particular, Sanders recalled FDR’s proposal, in his 1944 State of the Union address, for an “economic bill of rights,” covering such topics as wages, education, and health care.

Interestingly, the 32nd president even included this pro-business provision: “The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad.”

Now who does that 2nd paragraph sound like, fauxcahauntas or comrades deblasio and sanders?

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Don Bessee

A link with that snack sir @920? 920, is that double weed time or perhaps double dabs time? -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/22/pinkerton-bernie-sanders-wraps-democratic-socialism-flag-roosevelts-new-deal/

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Don Bessee

For the aerospace minded -

The successor to Lockheed Martin’s SR-71 Blackbird, the Mach 3 long-range recon aircraft that once tore across the skies like a Cold-War era arrowhead before its retirement in 1999, may be inching closer toward reality.

According to Aviation Week, a handful of visitors to the SAE International Aerotech Congress and Exhibition at Fort Worth, Texas, this week reported catching glimpses of a “demonstrator vehicle” believed to be linked to the proposed replacement: the SR-72.

Though the SR-72’s development is (understandably) a tightly-kept secret, Aviation Week reports that: In the early hours of July, an “unmanned subscale aircraft” was seen flying into the Air Force’s Plant 42 in Palmdale, California, where Lockheed Martin’s legendary Skunk Works division is headquartered.

With an “optionally piloted” flight research vehicle test slated for 2018 by Lockheed back in June, and a test flight anticipated to occur by 2020, the presence of the demonstrator at Palmdale seems to indicate that the SR-72’s progress is in line with Lockheed Martin’s timeline.
“Although I can’t go into specifics, let us just say the Skunk Works team in Palmdale, California, is doubling down on our commitment to speed,” Orlando Carvalho, the executive vice president of aeronautics at Lockheed Martin, said at the exhibition, which ran from Sept. 26 to 28. “Simply put, I believe the United States is on the verge of a hypersonics revolution.”

Lockheed Martin has remained tight-lipped on the SR-72 program since announcing the Blackbird successor in 2013, but the aerospace giant wants to up the ante in terms of speed. And that’s saying something: the Blackbird as it's known is not only faster than any other jet-propelled aircraft — it can literally outrun missiles.

“Speed matters, especially when it comes to national security,” as Carvalho put it.

If the recent sightings in Palmdale are tied to the Blackbird’s replacement, then the aircraft really is fast — and not just on the flight line. While still under development at Skunk Works, the proposed reconnaissance plane is expected to hit Mach 6 thanks to advanced new hypersonic tech.

“Hypersonics is like stealth. It is a disruptive technology and will enable various platforms to operate at two to three times the speed of the Blackbird,” Carvalho told Aviation Week. “Operational survivability and lethality is the ultimate deterrent. Security classification guidance will only allow us to say the speed is greater than Mach 5.”

The proposed hypersonic aircraft could fill a space left by the SR-71, which was retired in 1999 due to the proliferation of spy satellites, enemy air defenses, and ultimately, its exorbitant costs — roughly $200,000 per hour of operation, reports the National Interest. Unlike its predecessor, the SR-72 is being designed with strike capability in mind — which means it’s not just a super speedy spy plane: It can reach out and touchobliterate a target, then zip back the way it came.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/top-secret-no-longer-new-mach-5-sr-72-spy-plane-could-beat-everything-63782

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Keith

Can I ask for the group's feelings on Megan Dahle running for her husband's former assembly seat? We had a dose of the Gaines Family (I know, Beth did not represent us) and Nevada County got nothing from Ted Gaines while he was our state senator as he was too busy propping up his wife in her assembly district. I mean, Megan's whole public service experience is one term on the local school board, where the graduating senior class is usually a dozen kids and being married to an assembly member. Thoughts?

Gregory

k 820am

It depends upon who else runs. State Assembly is a low rung.

I'm not sure why Ted Gaines is relevant here.

Audrey Denney had never run for any elected orifice before challenging LaMalfa, losing badly. Her public service experience was (is) as a board member for a Soros supported 'charity' in El Salvador that helps the poor in Central America to walk to the USA in caravans and provides a summer camp for folks to learn about liberation theology (Marx con salsa). And she's running again. And before that, Ben Emery ran for Congress claiming to be a straight A student in Nursing school... but he hadn't been admitted to a Nursing school yet, those were courses required to get onto a waiting list for Nursing school.

Back to Mrs. Dahle... it depends upon who else runs. On first look, we could do better and we could do worse.

Don Bessee

Howdya like that you mutha mullahs -

The US may have withheld a physical military response to Iran shooting down a drone, but it might not have shown similar restraint with a digital campaign. Washington Post sources say the President greenlit a long-in-the-making cyberattack that took down Iranian missile control computers on the night of June 20th. The exact impact of the Cyber Command operation isn't clear, but it was described as "crippling" -- Iran couldn't easily recover, one tipster said.

https://www.engadget.com/2019/06/22/us-cyberattack-reportedly-knocked-out-iran-missile-control-syste/?yptr=yahoo

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Don Bessee

Winning -

TEL AVIV – In a rare interview with a Hebrew-language newspaper, a senior Saudi diplomat said it was time the Arab world realized that the “age of war with Israel” is over.
The diplomat, who declined to be named, slammed the Palestinian leadership for “irresponsibly” panning the Trump administration’s long-anticipated peace deal without even seeing it.

“The bloody conflict has dragged on for too long. For us the Saudis, as well as for all the Gulf states, Egypt and Jordan, it is clear that the age of war with Israel has ended and that normalizing relations will only benefit us,” he said in interview published in Globes. “The entire Arab world can benefit from this, not only the Palestinians, and of course also [Israel].”

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2019/06/23/top-saudi-diplomat-tells-israeli-paper-age-of-war-with-israel-is-over/

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Russell Steele

Priceless Crisis

By David Wojick

Having hitched their wagon to the unicorn of climate catastrophe, the Democrat candidates for president are caught between a rock and a very hard place.
Each of these twenty contenders has to try to stand out from the crowd and they will not do that by saying “oh wait, climate change is not a problem.” But the shriller they get the less likely they are to defeat President Trump. This panic festival will be fun to watch.

[...]


Aussie skeptic Jo Nova put it best:

“There are a billion sensible reasons the Democrats don’t want a climate debate
And it’s not because they’d lose debating science. There’s no chance they would debate science every candidate already agrees there is a climate emergency de facto, or they’d be thrown out of the party. So, any debate would start with “what should we do” and instantly turn into a high risk competition to outbid each other. Who can promise more, squander more, or cry bigger tears on stage on cue?”

The Democrat candidate debates are about to begin. Will the climate issue rise, or fall, or be swept under the rug?

https://www.cfact.org/2019/06/21/priceless-crisis/

Don Bessee

Ok you socialist dem clowns, move over and make room in the car for 1 more clown -

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/joe-sestak-pennsylvania-25th-democrat-white-house-race

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Don Bessee

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition -

Constitutional expert on 'separation of church and state': Framers said nothing wrong with religion in culture

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/separation-of-church-state-levin-michael-mcconnell

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Don Bessee

That Trump is sure a racist, no, what, wait? -

The United States has poured more investment into Africa under President Donald Trump than under any previous administration.

That’s according to Aubrey Hruby of the Atlantic Council, who admitted she was stunned to learn the facts.

Yet as the Daily Maverick notes, Trump is proposing to fund the DFC with $60 billion for investment in Africa, and has launched the Prosper Africa program, which aims to “double two-way trade and investment between the world’s biggest economy and the continent by 2025,” according to Bloomberg News.

https://www.breitbart.com/africa/2019/06/20/expert-u-s-invests-more-in-africa-under-trump-than-any-other-president/

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Don Bessee

They know creepy grampa joe well -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/23/democrats-biden-is-unchanging-disaster-waiting-happen/

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Walt

So.. It looks like the bastard had the ass whoop'n coming.
https://www.theunion.com/news/crime/nevada-county-das-office-no-charges-to-be-filed-in-mustang-valley-place-assault/
The Nevada County District Attorney’s Office has opted against filing charges in a bizarre assault in which a man was reportedly shot, beaten with a golf club and run over with an ATV.

Three people had initially been arrested in connection with the Tuesday altercation on Mustang Valley Place, off McCourtney Road. Jerry Del Re, 67; Lindsey Papola, 29; and Aaron Pillow, 32, were charged with assault with a deadly weapon causing great bodily injury. Papola also was charged with battery.

But on Friday, Assistant District Attorney Chris Walsh issued a release saying no charges would be filed, and explaining the decision.

“As background, it should be noted the alleged victim had a restraining order against him that had recently elapsed, issued earlier this year,” Walsh said. “The restraining order had been obtained by individuals who lived at the property where this happened.”

According to Walsh, law enforcement had been called out to the property in April, after the alleged victim was said to have doused the residence with gasoline, including splashing gasoline on a person who lived there, and was threatening to blow the place up.

Don Bessee

The new red guard -

Leftists are threatening to dox incoming freshmen students at the University of Texas at Austin (UT Austin), claiming they will release the students’ personal information if they are caught joining conservative groups on campus, namely the Young Conservatives of Texas (YCT) and Turning Point USA (TPUSA).

“Hey UT23! Do you wanna be famous?” tweeted an account allegedly operated by leftist students, “If you join YCT or Turning Point USA, you just might be. Your name and more could end up on an article like one of these. So be sure to make smart choices at #UTOrientation.”

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/06/23/ut-austin-leftists-threaten-to-dox-students-for-joining-conservative-campus-groups/

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George Rebane

DonB 457pm - Good catch Mr Bessee. Only on America's Left do we see such fervent emulation of tyrannical regimes' social control processes. Likening them to a "new red guard" is spot on. And today they over-populate our colleges.

Bill Tozer

Don, looks like Texas is turning so Blue is looks like Stalin.

I see your Native American reparations and take it to a whole new level and another realm. Under the category ‘ Fact is stranger than fiction.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/48766/warren-comes-out-gay-reparations-amanda-prestigiacomo?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwbrand

Don Bessee

Aw come on, would the left do that? You bet your ass! -

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9354092/boris-johnson-furious-partner-carrie-symonds-stitch-up-anti-brexit/

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Don Bessee

True dat -

https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2019/06/23/report-christian-persecution-2019-scourge-mammoth-proportions/

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Bill Tozer

There goes the Mission bells. Screw Santa Cruz and the banana slugs. Offensive to “the community.” Community of what, wingnuts? Wonder how long it will before the County’s Miner statues get doused with red paint.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/06/21/uc-santa-cruz-will-remove-offensive-bells-from-campus/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1F5_vnd0MS9K16gRzsIadNsG-EnGCCDrPSmnrRntCih0mee0AjKpWl9XI
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That Trump is a funny guy. He knows how to wind them up and watch them spin.

“TIME Magazine Wants Everyone To Know Trump Shared A ‘Manipulated Version’ Of Their Cover”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/48745/time-magazine-wants-everyone-know-trump-shared-ashe-schow

Don Bessee

Were the banana slugs the inspiration for PCU? -

A high school senior visits college for the weekend, and stays at the wildest house on campus in this classic tale of anti-political-correctness.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCU_(film)

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Don Bessee

Those mutha mullahs are suffering from group think over generations -

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/iran-inflection-point-attacks-change-status-quo-defense-intelligence-agency-director-tells-fox-news

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Bill Tozer

Did you hear Omar Ilhan’s latest pearls of intelligence? She said that, yes, AOC is correct. It’s people concentrated in a camp, thus it's concentration camp. Like summer camp? Or, like 600,000 people at the Yuba? We have now been schooled and enlightened by the brightest of stars.
Goes to show you want centuries of in-breeding from not marrying outside your clan will do to one’s mind.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=304725433331073&set=a.302385250231758&type=3&theater&ifg=1

Walt

The is the Queen of the DAMNED's idea of immigration reform.
"Let them ALL stay!!"
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2019/06/23/nancy-pelosi-donald-trump-thanks-halting-deportations-now-give-us-nationwide-amnesty/
"Mr. President, delay is welcome,” she tweeted, adding, “Time is needed for comprehensive immigration reform.”
"In recent weeks, Democrats have been stepping up their calls for “comprehensive immigration reform,” usually by praising the 2013 “Gang of Eight” amnesty and cheap-labor bill. Democrat’s use of “comprehensive immigration reform” is shorthand for a political deal that would promise better border security for Americans in exchange for an immediate nationwide amnesty that would provide Democrats at least 10 million new voters in a decade."

LIBs have no intention of curbing illegal immigration.

Don Bessee

The joys of unfettered immigration -

The court did not agree with the representative, saying that the migrant may be prosecuted for rape against a child. Investigators also revealed suspicions that the teen may actually be over 20-years-old.

Last year, the Swedish government announced a plan that became known as the “high school law” which allowed around 9,000 Afghan “children” to remain in Sweden despite reports claiming that 78 per cent of the migrants were actually adults.

The case comes after another rape case earlier this month involving seven Afghan migrant suspects and one Swedish citizen, with one of the Afghan migrants having been employed by an asylum seeker integration charity.

Last year, many on the left expressed outrage after Swedish national broadcaster SVT revealed that 58 per cent of men convicted of rapes in the previous five years had been born overseas and that number increased to 85 per cent in cases where the victim did not know the attacker beforehand.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/06/23/nobody-told-me-it-was-illegal-claim-of-migrant-accused-of-child-rape/

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Don Bessee

We think we rule the world already, we have established a red guard in all your countries so tow the line bitches!

BEIJING (Reuters) - China's Assistant Minister of Foreign Affairs Zhang Jun said on Monday that China will not allow the Group of 20 nations to discuss the Hong Kong issue at its summit this week.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-not-allow-hong-kong-022907557.html

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Scott O

Don at 9:24 - Oh, that's just China being China.
If the other nations had any sense, they'd tell China not to bother showing up. Tell China the conference is only for adults - no petulant children allowed.

Scott O

This will get the left all excited -
https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddawkins/2019/06/24/george-soros-leads-chorus-of-billionaires-calling-for-a-new-wealth-tax/#2324ad681ce7
"Billionaire George Soros and members of the Gund and Pritzker families are among a number of the world’s wealthiest business leaders to have signed a letter calling for a new U.S. wealth tax."
See??!! The rich WANT to pay more taxes!!!
Of course they'd pay higher taxes right now on their own - because of MORALITY and all, but they just don't know how. It's too confusing or something.
This is how the wealthy got wealthy - paying more money.
Right.

Walt

A place where our LIBS will feel right at home.
Nevada County chapter coming soon.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/23/communist-party-usa-chicago-cpusa-convention

Don Bessee

If you open it they will come through -

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2019/06/24/exclusive-mexican-officials-confirm-u-s-warned-about-suspected-isis-suspects-headed-to-border/

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Bill Tozer

Bernie says it would be inappropriate to deport illegals who have deportation orders from the court or whom have broken the law (again) by failing to appear at their hearings. Can you say “open borders?” Can’t separate families, can’t detain them, can’t make them enter at a point of entry, can’t, can’t, can’t. But we can help them and care for them and make sure they have enough toothpaste and free eye surgery!

“There are ICE raids set to start Sunday morning. Estimates of some 2000 people or so who will be targeted, is this appropriate?" moderator Margaret Brennan asked Sanders.

"No, it's not," Sanders responded. "It is absolutely not appropriate."

“Several moments later, Brennan again pressed Sanders: "But specifically on this point the two thousand that are supposed to be targeted haven't shown up for a court date so essentially they're- they're not following the asylum process. The legal standards when they're here. So should they be prosecuted, should they be deported?"

“Sanders responded: "I don't- I don't like this deportation thing at all and I think Trump uses this as a beginning to do worse things to come."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/48771/bernie-not-appropriate-deport-illegal-aliens-not-ryan-saavedra

Ok, I get it now. It’s not called open borders, it’s just no deportations and no Wall. Got it. Well, Bernie is not a Maoist. They were nationalists. No, Bernie is a Stalinist. They believed in crossing national boundaries. Export and import. The Soviet original Commie leaders were from Ukraine and Georgia, not Russia. Make sense now. ‘Splains the Honeymoon in the good ole USSR and maybe also explains why John Brennan was a Gus Hall supporter and voter. Think globally, act globally. That’s makes the US the Evil Empire. Got it.

https://spectator.org/john-brennans-president-remembering-comrade-gus-hall/

Don Bessee

2020 factor?

https://news.gallup.com/poll/259103/new-high-say-immigration-important-problem.aspx

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Don Bessee

The masters of the universe still think they can put their thumb on the scale -

Undercover videos recorded by Project Veritas reveals that Google is determined to prevent the re-election of Donald Trump in 2020, and is altering its products with this aim in mind.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/06/24/project-veritas-google-exec-decries-trumps-election-how-do-we-prevent-it-from-happening-again/

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Don Bessee

Today in the socialist dem clown car -

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bill-de-blasio-roasted

Joe Biden tanking earlier than expected, 'maybe he regrets now even deciding to run'

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lara-trump-joe-biden-gaffes

https://www.southbendtribune.com/news/local/marchers-confront-pete-buttigieg-police-chief-with-frustrations-after-south/article_25ff0d24-c317-53ed-9999-4f51ac5bcf36.html

Only 22% of Democrats registered to vote say they know a lot about the candidates’ positions, while 62% say they know a little. And only 35% say they’re paying close attention to the campaign, with almost two-thirds saying they’re paying some or no attention.

https://www.apnews.com/705afbd6b5c247f8ba2f81d212e5808e

Will the clown car make a stop at? -

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/23/communist-party-usa-chicago-cpusa-convention

;-)

Bill Tozet

Dan on Bernie

https://www.facebook.com/dan.bongino/videos/441709713289162/

Don Bessee

The thought police in full effect -

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/06/24/teen-who-said-there-are-two-genders-suspended-school/

;-)

Don Bessee

If putins new frigate is so great why does it need 3 salvage escorts to make a port call?

It's the first ship in a new class of frigates intended to replace aging Soviet-era destroyers to project power far away from Russian shores.

The ship is accompanied by the logistics vessel Elbrus, the medium sea tanker Kama and the rescue tug Nikolai Chiker, the Russian navy said.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9365741/russia-warns-cuban-missile-crisis-warship-havana/

;-)

Bill Tozer

Daily Quotes and a meme.

The Gipper: “Government has an important role in helping develop a country’s economic foundation. But the critical test is whether government is genuinely working to liberate individuals by creating incentives to work, save, invest, and succeed.” —Ronald Reagan

For the record: “Its completely inappropriate, it’s reckless, it’s irresponsible, it’s misinformed, and it’s flat out wrong.” —Acting ICE Director Mark Morgan on AOC’s “concentration camps” remark

Friendly fire: “When she analogized institutions used for mass slaughter to legitimate institutions of government, that’s a moral and political obscenity.” —Democrat strategist Doug Schoen

Braying Jenny: “I think a lot of people are conflating what a death camp looks like or a specific removal of people. These people are coming to the border. We are removing them from the border. We are placing them in camps.” —Rep. Ilhan Omar

Non Compos Mentis: “I would find [taking legal action against Trump] disrespectful to the women who are down on the border who are being raped around the clock down there without any protection. As you know, the women have very little protection there. It would just be disrespectful. Mine was three minutes. I’m a mature woman. I can handle it. I can keep going. You know my life has gone on. I’m a happy woman. But for the women down there and, actually, around the world, you know, in every culture this is going on no matter high in society or low in society, it just seems disrespectful that I would bring [charges].” —advice columnist E. Jean Carroll, who alleges Trump raped her in the 1990s

What could possibly go wrong? “We are gonna … create a Medicare for All health-care system which guarantees health care to every man, woman, and child and saves the average American substantial sums of money. … When I talk about health care being a human right, last time I heard that undocumented people are human beings as well.” —Sen. Bernie Sanders

And last… “The problem is that college costs have skyrocketed versus inflation due to government interference in loans, and the solution people are proposing is to have the government pay off those loans, giving colleges even less incentive to cut costs. There would be no student debt crisis if colleges hadn’t been fueled into an inflation of costs. If you’re talking about loans and nothing about making colleges reduce costs, despite all you posturing about caring about students, you are a bad person and making things worse.” —Frank J. Fleming

https://m.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10156476803170914/?type=3&source=48

Todd Juvinall

Mayor Pete got the Mayor Steinberg treatment by his black citizens on Sunday. A cop shot an attacking black man wielding a knife. Protestors galore. His chance for any black votes went up in smoke.

George Rebane

Dropout Derby Delinquents - OK Messrs Branson, fish,and Juvinall, get in there and insert your #24 and #25 Democratic hopefuls. Please submit your new lists in the comments under the updated Dropout Derby post. Thanks.

Don Bessee

Yes they are -

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/450127-press-democrats-form-circular-firing-squad

;-)

Don Bessee

Well of course the would want to hide their election meddling from the stupid voters -

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/06/24/google-censors-video-exposing-google/

;-)

Walt

Well LIBBYS,,
Google employee, Jen Gennai, stating that the company shouldn’t be broken up because only they can prevent the “next Trump situation.”
And the likes of you complain about "big business" and "Wall St."
paying Repubs off? It hasn't been that way for a LONG time.
Now don't forget who the whore of Wall St. really was.(Hillary)

I'm sure you LIBS are quite happy with one LIB company interfering with the elections. Their on your side. Oh... And not Russians.
Just Frisco Communists.

Bill Tozer

Nothing to see here on Pride Month

https://freebeacon.com/politics/just-promoted-dccc-official-has-history-of-homophobic-racist-comments/

All is forgiven, #NoHomos

Don Bessee

Sounds good to me -

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/congress-seeks-to-make-iran-pay-for-downed-american-drone/

;-)

Paul Emery

Fish and Gregory, as Libertarians what is your view of the Constitutionality of this:

‘I don’t have to do it, legally’: Trump says he can invade Iran without Congress’ permission.

“I like the idea of keeping Congress abreast, but I wouldn’t have to do that,” said Trump. In response to the fact that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has said he must obtain congressional approval first, Trump said, “I disagree. I think most people seem to disagree.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/i-dont-have-to-do-it-legally-trump-says-he-can-invade-iran-without-congress-permission/

Don Bessee

When did he say invade oh great pony tail of ignorance. Try getting up to date to the war powers act but we know that's too much for you.

;-)

Walt

Rawstory again Emery? Clickbait is getting slim for ya'.
Iraq could set of a nuke, and you would find a reason to piss and moan about not going in and kicking ass.

Don Bessee

KVMR is clearly so proud of their own po' ol' fakenewsmans lies. The actual quote is;


https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/06/24/trump-i-dont-need-congressional-approval-before-striking-iran/

And he does not - ;-)

Bill Tozer

“After 15 yrs and $2bil [in the 1990s] the Kansas City school district failed all of Missouri's 11 academic performance standards and became the first big-city school district to lose its academic accreditation." -Larry Elders, the Elder Statesman
——————-
U.N.: Living in someone else's country is a 'Universal Human Right'

and once they are here.....

Article 25 adds "Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and his family, including food, clothing, housing,and medical care...."
That does not sound like a plan to help developing countries. The UN is a joke.

Paul Emery

Thanks for confirming my quote Don. So you have no problem with the president taking military action without the consent of Congress. Just want to make it clear that’s your position. Can you show me where in the constitution it justifies that.

Walt

Emery can't comprehend the President has the POWER to do so.

You better call the White House Emery, and have Trump clear any action with you.
Seems all that Sun cooked your gourd.

George Rebane

PaulE 932pm - Perhaps you can show us where the Constitution prevents the President from such a response.

Walt

Read it and bitch Emery. From the war powers act.
"The War Powers Resolution requires the President to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without a Congressional authorization for use of military force"

Trump can do all the limited engagements he likes.
He can pound the shit out of them with drones and Cruse missiles.
And no troops set foot on camel jockey soil.

Bill Tozer

The War Powers Act long name:
“Joint resolution concerning the war powers of Congress and the President”

Enacted by the 93 Congress of the United States of America.

Don Bessee

Your quote is an absolute lie, he never said invasion oh great pony tail of ignorance, the legally passed federal war powers act allows for tons of fun on those mutha mullahs. Military forces can be on temporary duty for up to 89 days. Then you have the war on terror resolution that stands to this day. Wipe your lip you are drooling a little there.

Another shining example of the KVMR crack(ed) po' ol' fakenewsmans fake news. I wonder if KVMR will play this -

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/06/24/roseanne-barr-and-andrew-dice-clay-announce-mr-and-mrs-america-comedy-tour/

;-)

Bill Tozer

Another historic day. Scratch that one off the ‘to do’ the list.

“In an executive order issued Monday, Trump ordered the Department of Health and Human Services and other federal agencies to develop rules that will require hospitals and other health care providers to disclose prices to show what both the insurer and the patient will pay for a service.

“The president has a clear vision for American health care,” Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said. “Today, the president is delivering on that historic promise," adding that this will “go down as one of the most significant steps in the long history of American health care reform."

“The new rules would also force health care providers and insurers to tell patients exactly what their out-of-pocket costs would be before any service is provided.

“Everyday American patients are being taken advantage of by a system that hides critical information from them that they need to make decisions for them and their families,” Azar said. He added that knowing the cost of service beforehand means Americans would be able to comparison shop — just like they might when getting their cars fixed.

“Azar also said his agency and others would seek to end “surprise billing,” in which patients find out weeks or months later that their insurance companies won't cover a provided service.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/48783/trump-orders-health-care-providers-reveal-prices-joseph-curl?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro

Well, that is more paperwork I do like. They charged my Uncle for a case of tampons!

 Bill Tozer

Shocking, absolutely shocking. Report scorched the President.

The PBS Frontline special entitled “Lost In Detention” represents a scathing indictment of the administration’s immigration policy. The yearlong investigation did an extensive and deep dive into the U.S. immigration enforcement system and stories of hidden abuse in detention centers.

“The nearly hourlong report makes for harrowing viewers: Women who have been detained complaining about being harassed by guards for sexual favors, sexually assaulted by guards, and guards threatening to kill the women they are harassing if they talk. A single mom with two daughters who overstayed a visa gets deported back to Mexico just because she changed lanes without signaling. Cops describe patrolling neighborhoods with significant number of illegal immigrants, where people instinctively run from the sight of a police car. A mother of five American-born children being deported over a speeding ticket.

“The report describes, “a vast network of 250 detention centers, from county jails to large centers run by private prison companies, where immigrants facing deportation are held until they can be removed from the country. In the past decade, three million immigrants have been detained in the system.” The report shows white-domed tents surrounded by barbed wire, and are described as overcrowded warehouses of people. Those who have been through the detention centers describe beatings, racial slurs, official coverups, and threats to deport anyone who complains. The problem is described as more than a few “bad apples,” but more of “barrels of bad apples.”

“One of the president’s immigration advisors callously declares, “At the end of the day, when you have a community of 10 million, 11 million people living and working in the United States illegally, some of these things are going to happen. Even if the law is executed with perfection, there will be parents separated from their children. They don’t have to like it, but it is a result of having a broken system of laws.”

More from this shocking report. It’s sickening.

“Wait, wait, I’m sorry, this Frontline special is from October 2011, and describes the immigration policies of the Obama administration. Clearly, these policies do not warrant a heated national conversation, are not a national scandal, outrage, or embarrassment, and do not deserve furious denunciation all across the political spectrum. If they did, we would have heard all of this eight years ago. While the allegations of abuse are repulsive, they simply didn’t seem to interest the media or the public on a large scale back in 2011.

“And regarding the way illegal immigrants are being hunted, arrested, and deported, clearly the president knew what he was doing and this was simply tough enforcement of the immigration laws on the books. If it wasn’t, surely all of the current Democratic presidential contenders who are furious about the current policies would have noticed. I mean, Joe Biden was vice president when all of this was going on.”

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEApP-tYLjodbbukA2IvZEzkqGQgEKhAIACoHCAowh4uHCzDap4UDMMDclgY?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

Don Bessee

Now don't go messing up team lefties approved narratives with pesky FACTS @1059!!

;-)


Walt

Something for the true believers of AGW to wake up to.
Here is a good, swift kick to the pea sized testis.
https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Colorado-s-snowpack-is-40-times-normal-after-rare-14036967.php
"On summer's opening day, up to 20 inches of snow buried the high terrain of the Colorado Rockies, boosting the state's snowpack to extraordinary levels for the time of year.

The solstice flakes marked a continuation of a snowy stretch that began in January and February and lingered through spring. Even before the solstice snow, The Denver Post wrote, the state's snowpack was "in virtually every numerical sense . . . off the charts." At the time, the snowpack was 751 percent above normal.

Kinda the opisate of what you doom and gloomers preach.

Oh... And the nice cool weather WE are going to have in the coming days.

We enjoy the cricket festival for your side of the ditch when
news like this hits.

Paul Emery

Obviously no Libertarians on this blog. Not a peep from Gregory or fish.

Paul Emery

George

You obviously have no respect for this:

Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 of the U.S. Constitution grants Congress the power to declare war. The President, meanwhile, derives the power to direct the military after a Congressional declaration of war from Article II, Section 2, which names the President Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces.

Todd Juvinall

Did Trump start a war?

George Rebane

PaulE 648am - is it not obvious that you may not know what is going on in the Mideast?

Paul Emery

That's not my question George. If we attack Iran that is an act of war. How is that justified when the Constitution is so specific. Perhaps it's not important but you cite the Constitution in many of your discussions-especially the Second Amendment but this seems unimportant to you. Can you explain? Perhaps there should be a Constitutional Amendment. What do you think?

Bill Tozer

@ 7:00 am Has a War been declared? Gee, how could I missed that one?
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Random quotes.....picked at random.

“In 2017, the CBO … stated that the government-managed student-loan program would garner a respectable $114 billion in revenue over the ensuing 10 years. Then, in 2018, that revenue estimate nosedived to just $8.7 billion. … Now, the CBO is calculating a $31 billion deficit over the next 10 years. A Bloomberg Government report parsed this development as ‘a shift from past CBO forecasts that the government would profit from the program.’ That’s not merely a shift. That’s a deviation of epic proportions.”

“The cat is out of the bag. The corporate wing of the Democratic Party is publicly ‘anybody but Bernie.’”—Comrade Bernie (I-Vermont)

“Sanders, Warren Vie for 'King of the Free-Stuff Mountain'

“Online Knitting Community Bans Trump Supporters, Accuses Them Of Backing 'White Supremacy'

“FLASHBACK: ABC's ’08 Prediction: NYC Under Water from Climate Change By June 2015”

Donald Trump Jr.: ‘Mexico Doing More To Protect America Than Democrats’

Ocasio-Cortez Lies About Concentration Camp Remarks, Blames GOP For Her Words

Biden promises to raise your taxes by an average of $1,400 on ‘Day One.’

GAVIN NEWSOM: REPUBLICANS WILL BE 3RD PARTY IN 10-15 YEARS BECAUSE ‘MASCULINITY’

Yikes! WTF???
“I think most people think of rape as being sexy. Think of the fantasies.” —-Trump rape accuser E. Jean Carroll, an Elle magazine advice columnist.

“In terms of interior enforcement … what’s the point?” —Nancy Pelosi on Trump’s deportation raids.

Last but not least;
“If you want to run a campaign based on reparations and concentration camps then it’s going to be very hard to win the election.” —HBO’s Bill Maher

And a visual aide

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156695848363878&set=a.10154039903428878&type=3&theater&ifg=1


Gregory

The War Powers act gives the President, umm, limited War Powers. It hasn't been found unconstitutional. It was enacted over Nixon's veto.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution


Then there were the actions by other Islamic entities that bedeviled Washington and Jefferson both, causing the US Navy to be founded.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_Wars

"From the Halls of Montezuma, to the shores of Tripoli". Sing it, Paul. The Constitution isn't a suicide pact.

Ships attacked in international waters, an aircraft blown out of the sky... what should be done, Paul?

Perhaps the nuclear football that goes where the President goes should have a couple of clones that goe with the Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority leader so that all three could come to a decision in a timely fashion?

Walt

Give it a rest Emery. You were shown the facts. Deal with it.
No amount of Emeryism is going to justify the whine.

So Emery, If Iran declares war on us,(which they pretty much have)
explain away why Trump can't make Iran a footnote in history.
LIBS are cowardly traitors, who have no intention of defending this nation or living up to protecting allies, You and yours would prefer world anarchy.

Paul Emery

So Walt you believe the Constitution is obsolete in this matter. Why not a Constitutional Amendment ?

Walt

Back at ya' Emery, tell us why MAD "Max" should not be charged with treason."giving aid and comfort to the enemy"
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/24/crenshaw-maxine-waters-hate-for-trump-runs-so-deep-she-is-willing-to-take-irans-side/
"
Maxine Waters

@RepMaxineWaters
Trump, you get no credit for so-called stopping the strike against Iran. Why was the unmanned drone in Iran's airspace? Why the surveillance? Don't provoke and then pretend innocence.

fishpunch@punchfish.com

Posted by: Paul Emery | 25 June 2019 at 06:47 AM

Obviously no Libertarians on this blog. Not a peep from Gregory or fish.


What am I supposed to be responding to Punch-E?

Barry Pruett

“Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 of the U.S. Constitution grants Congress the power to declare war. The President, meanwhile, derives the power to direct the military after a Congressional declaration of war from Article II, Section 2, which names the President Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces.”. Exactly Paul.

If the President fails to get a declaration of war, then Congress can impeach him. That’s the remedy and the only remedy. I don’t think that is going to happen, as our public generally has no idea what we are talking about due to the dumbing down of our population through liberal progressive policies and also due to the fact that we have been involved in multiple military exercises since WWII with no declaration.

Bill Tozer

@8:28 am

“What am I supposed to be responding to Punch-E”

Well, Punchy left the building to go fiddling Sunday morn. He promised he will get back to a poster he identified as @10:48am at the time. Of course, that what was he said, but pay that no nevermind. He would not dare to utter another “lie”, would he? His topic he wanted answers to was concerning Health Care. So, I guess you are supposed to respond to Health Care.

He’s all over the map. He is pissed that Obama launched all those drones and now he fears, fears I say, that Trump will go to war with Iran without Congressional approval. And now he wants a Constitutional Amendment. Takes 3/4 of the State Legislatures and 2/3 of the Congress. I say write the State Legislatures and get the ball rolling. If CA with its super majority one party Deep Blue State cannot get off their arses, then all is lost and we are stuck with current Federal Law. Now, back to health care.

The non-birthers are going nuts lately.

Gregory

Paul, is there a difference in your mind between an act of war and war?

BTW the one President to totally ignore the War Powers act was Bill Clinton, who waged war in Serbia (then the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia), dropping bombs from Belgrade to Kosovo, killing many hundreds of Serb civilians, without a declaration of war, in a UN action undertaken without a vote of the Security Council.

This was ostensibly done to stop Serbs from ethnically cleansing Kosovo of ethnic Albanians (think Ottoman Empire) from Kosovo. When the Serbs stopped resisting, blue helmeted UN forces stood by while Albanian Kosovars ethnic cleansed Kosovo of Serbs. Albanians had been streaming across the border into historic Serbian territory to take it over all along.

Much later, we admitted to using depleted uranium ammunition against Serbs in Kosovo. Also in Afghanistan and Iraq.
https://mondediplo.com/2002/03/03uranium

Try to imagine the UN bombing Texas in order to stop Texans from stopping Mexicans from streaming over the border to retake the Alamo, and then making a new state of South Texas to make it safe for the South Texans.

Hey, but we proved to the Saudis we were willing to bomb the crap out of Christians to make the world safer for Islam. The oil flowed.

Paul Emery

Raising a Constitutional question about Presidential powers. Do you believe this should apply to Trump in when he claims he doesn't need Congressional approval to invade Iran

Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 of the U.S. Constitution grants Congress the power to declare war. The President, meanwhile, derives the power to direct the military after a Congressional declaration of war from Article II, Section 2, which names the President Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces.

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 24 June 2019 at 08:58 PM

Fish and Gregory, as Libertarians what is your view of the Constitutionality of this:

‘I don’t have to do it, legally’: Trump says he can invade Iran without Congress’ permission.


Ahh…there it is!

Well Punch…..we seem to be in a "Post Constitutional" era as half the crap Obama did and wanted to do would have certainly been constitutionally suspect just 20 years ago. Today you have the Speaker of the House telling illegals under deportation orders that they should just ignore them (this after due process has been followed). Would it be constitutional…..probably not. Not smart either as we are really over extended militarily. I wouldn't worry…..I don't think the president is going to pursue this course of action.

Now as a libertarian I am mightily encouraged that representatives of the government are telling us to just not follow laws we don't like. There are a couple of non California compliant handguns that I think I'll have friend purchase in Nevada, wait for a couple of months, and then bring to me after they bust the first couple of morons trying to bring in ammunition the day after July 1st.

Thanks Nancy….I think I can get on board with the "pick and choose" the laws we like plan!

Paul Emery

Fish

What does that have to do with my 8:54?

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