California’s latest dumb to dumber (updated 14sep19)

George Rebane

The litany of inept, incompetent, ineffective, destructive, and corrupt public policies from Democrat controlled Sacramento just keep cascading over this once golden state.  The latest pair involves the statewide rent control law and the forced reclassification of consultants as employees.

“First California makes homes unaffordable, then it imposes statewide rent control” observes the 12sep19 WSJ.  California’s government imposed housing shortage is now known worldwide.  Over 700,000 wealth producing Californians have left the state since 2010, inevitably to be replaced by welfare recipients (1 in 3 live here) and succored illegals.  Rent control distorts the information which open market prices relay about supply and demand.  Here, as elsewhere, rent control will put a further damper on housing development, induce gratuitous rent increases to the new max (5% plus inflation), and reduce/remove incentives to keep rental properties properly maintained.  Today “the upshot is that an ‘affordable’ housing unit in California costs $332,000 to build and nearly $600,000 in San Francisco, according to state budget figures. Developers can’t turn a profit on low- and middle-income homes despite abundant federal and state subsidies.”

Consultants (I used to be one in my career) form a valuable component of the state’s workforce, especially when it comes to starting and expanding businesses.  Consultants quickly bring valuable expertise at reasonable cost to businesses when the need for their specialized knowledge may be for a short term and/or when the future is too uncertain to commit to a premature hiring decision.  Consultants usually have more than one concurrent client, and that lets them and the hiring company only use as much of the consultant’s hours as is necessary to do their special work.  All these advantages go out the window when the new law (now AB5) imposes draconian conditions on who may or may not be called and hired as a consultant.  The law is one more confirmation of Sacramento’s idiocy regarding business development and operations, and also of its desperation for additional revenues – employees get taxed more - into its general fund (giving lie to all the ballyhoo about the state’s budget reserves and financial wellbeing).  In sum, socialists don’t do business right.

[13sep19 update]  It was time for another comment from one our leftwing regulars (JigW 859pm) that again confirms the assessment that those folks are intellectually handicapped beyond repair.  This comment, while not acknowledging the content of my above commentary, repeated the oft offered ‘if you don’t like California, then leave’, augmented by the observation that ‘it sucks to have a life like yours since you’re not going to convince California to change course’.  The sackhead’s attempt to include the notion of ‘logic’ in his diatribe just confirms his disabilities.  Overall, I have seen little evidence that progressive readers understand anything in my commentaries, or similar commentaries elsewhere.

More attentive longtime readers know I have maintained since the launch of RR that CA is beyond the tipping point ideologically, and that it is headed for a socio-economic train wreck as it drives out wealth producers and attracts the hordes of gimmes and illegals with its maelstrom of misguided public policies.  I’m not aware of anyone here embracing the belief that we will miraculously miss the disaster, let alone hoping that their missives will change progressive minds.  That is a notion that people like Jig aggrandize themselves with as having viewpoints that others consider important enough to seek to alter.  The man himself says it best – “If you see things differently and actually believe you are going to convince California and it's progressives to change the course, then let us in on your little secret. I can tell you right up front your plan is delusional at best. Insane more likely. Logical . . . not.”

But what is important to continue noting is the Left’s confusion of criticism as the necessary precursor to change.  I might remind those confused with RR’s tagline – Observations and interpretations of events from the last great century of Man.  This blog is my own public diary of such observations and interpretations to which I invite participation from those with the ability to think critically and conduct a civil dialogue.  As readers can tell, that invitation has been accepted by a broader audience not all having such qualifications.

I offer this invitation because I am a copernican who has no special access to goodness and truth, and is therefore prone to errors that, upon serious consideration (after all I’m supposed to be a trained scientist), may cause me to change my mind.  And to me such redirections are a (sometimes bittersweet) joy.

Although I have been graciously accused of having a unique perspective here and there, generally I find that my views are shared by a significant cohort of learned people who are also students of the human condition.  However, over the years this fact has been totally invisible to the above cited local leftwingers.  As archived in RR’s comment streams, these poorly informed worthies continue their uninterrupted braying that all my commentaries and critiques are the unique offspring of an old, miserable, and lonely mind in these foothills, the defunct offal of ideas about which no one cares – and yet they come.

[14sep19 update]  For a broader compendium of reasons to oppose AB5, please read today’s lead Union editorial, ‘Assembly Bill 5 an out-of-touch overreach’ (following publisher Don Rogers' 12sep15 column on the same issue).  This well-worded criticism of the unbelievably butt-stupid bill comes from the editorial board of our decidedly center-left newspaper.  And it further demonstrates how virulently radical are the above discussed remarks of one of our more calcified socialist ideologues, an ilk whose debating powers are constrained by ‘agree with me or begone!’

Comments

[Bill Tozer]

Did California just kill the Gig Economy?

https://fee.org/articles/did-california-just-kill-the-gig-economy/

[MM]

We Californians like to try new things

[George Rebane]

MM 520pm - We Californians used to try new things because they had a chance of working, and demonstrating new ways to create wealth and enjoy life. That stopped when the proto-socialists took over. Now that we have full blown socialists in charge, there is nothing new that comes out of Sacramento. All of it is old tried and failed pap for public policy, that appears new and hopeful only to the under-educated double dummies who know no history.

[Jig Wiggly]

George-
Do you understand the stereotype you fulfill to a tee? The one of the grumpy old man who can't stop talking about when we wuz great? I mean GREAT! Now everything has gone to hell in a hand basket because of youth. "And you, you illiterate youngster - get off my lawn."

[Bill Tozer]

The Union weighs in

https://www.theunion.com/opinion/columns/don-rogers-how-not-to-pass-a-law/

[L]

Jig @ 5:51 You do realize, don't you, that Dr. Rebanes final sentence at 5:36 describes you to a tee? Not only are you lacking in any post K-12 scientific education, your bloviations lately pretty much define you as an uneducated follower of whichever socialist piper is passing through the neighborhood. Try to contribute here or go back to whatever you were doing before the notion of intelligent conversation occurred to you, please. Projection by the lefties is something to behold!

[Jig Wiggly]

L-
Unlike the majority of followers of this blog, overall, I'm fine with the great state of California and like a happy, cheerful life. I don't spend my life looking at a glass that is half full. Bitching and moaning and looking in the rearview isn't my thing.

[Don Bessee]

A big one handed clap for the comic stylings of the jiggly one, must have a degree in rhetoric.

;-)

[Scott O]

Jiggly - "Bitching and moaning and looking in the rearview isn't my thing."
That's right, Jiggy - you make sure you look where you're stepping so you don't step in the crap on the street and you whistle a happy tune while ignoring the rising tide of misery around you.
California isn't trying anything new. Lawlessness, corruption and poverty are actually pretty old news.
And what is new about rent control? It's been tried for decades and it's proven to make things worse.
Now - the gig economy is new, but Jiggy's buddies are trying to kill it.
Trying something new just because it's new is a pretty stupid way to go, but no one ever claimed Jiggy was very bright.

[Russ]

This is a temporary win for the declining Labor Union, they can now organize these new cohorts of labors, and demand even more benefits until the robots take over.

By making it hard for employers to misclassify employees as independent contractors, potentially millions of California workers who’ve been kept off payrolls will get basic labor rights for the first time, like overtime pay and unemployment benefits. This includes janitors, construction workers, security guards, and hotel housekeepers — and yes, this group also includes Uber and Lyft drivers.

“Symbolically, this is huge,” César Rosado Marzán, a labor law professor and co-director of the Institute for Law and the Workplace at the Illinois Institute of Technology, told me. “The pride of California is tech. Now they’re passing a law that says these people are your employees, and you need to take care of them. It shows that labor unions and activists have a lot of pull.”

https://www.vox.com/2019/9/11/20851034/california-ab-5-workers-labor-unions

I predict we will see the rapid automation of many of the gig jobs in including Uber and Lyft vehicles. The robot tech companies will be the only winners.

[Jig Wiggly]

Scott, Russ, George, logic is supposedly your thing??? You claim it daily. Maybe you have convinced yourselves, but to the outside world you are about as illogical as one can get. Fools even.

How logical is it to waste your lives bitching and moaning and believing you will have one gram of influence over how this state will be run a decade from now. I'm pretty sure we only get one chance at this life and you are wasting it. Wasting it by being chronic complainers and a boom to the ulcer and high blood pressure pharma.

The only difference you can make in the few remaining years or months of your live's is to accept the things you cannot change and attend to personal goals such as gardening or bridge. The other logical option is to move to Alabama or some other white conservative, racist Shangri La where hate and internal misery are the key to some sort of social acceptance.

If you see things differently and actually believe you are going to convince California and it's progressives to change the course, then let us in on your little secret. I can tell you right up front your plan is delusional at best. Insane more likely. Logical . . . not.

I don't expect anything but a spurious answer, for you don't have any answers. Just wasted dreams drunkenly reflected in an echo chamber of a few similar outcasts.

[Walt]

Come on fatboy,, The VERY pretty Gavin and his grand plans.
Solar on every new construction.(an added 20 grand to the cost)
Now gig employment out the door. That even means the paper boy is going to be out of a job.
We have a housing shortage But does your Proggy pals in Sac have a plan except to raise the cost of building? HELL NO.

So how far down the crapper does the state need to go before things change?

Now don't forget FREE healthcare for ALL illegals... (at your expense)
You do realize every TAX the state imposes cuts into to your buffett fund. Consider it a state imposed weight loss program.

[Bonnie McGuire]

Don't ya love it because it obvious why ya can't get anywhere in discussions with those devoted to Russian socialism...or big government. This popped up in a recent discussion: "Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoquelogical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument, in the United States is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda. When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the Soviet response would often be 'What about...' followed by an event in the Western world."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

[Todd Juvinall]

Yang wins Drudge Poll on tonight's debate. Not even close.

https://poll.fm/10407404/results?msg=revoted

[Scott O]

Oh, the Jiggles is hitting his stride.
"How logical is it to waste your lives bitching and moaning and believing you will have one gram of influence over how this state will be run a decade from now."
I spend about 15 minutes a day (average) on this web blog. And I don't just bitch and moan. Jiggles might learn that if he would just read once in a while. I have several interests and hobbies, not to mention the volunteer work I do. My life is pretty damn good, but others are struggling and Jiggles just wishes we would stop talking about it.
One gram of influence? That's rich coming from a lefty. Why - the very idea that we citizens would DARE to try to have a say in how our country is run!!!
Don't we conservatives understand that we need to just pay our taxes and knuckle under to our betters?
You lefties are complete morons.
California is increasingly run by what you leftys wanted and you're scared to death of what is to come. California is already fast becoming the MOST unequal in income of all the states. And who and what is causing it? Not the Rs or the conservatives, that's for sure.
"I don't expect anything but a spurious answer, for you don't have any answers."
If you mean I don't have any 'answers' to California sliding down the rat hole into a chaotic mess - you are correct. I predicted it years ago at a dinner party at George's house. Sad to say - I was correct. Demographics are a stubborn thing and the playing field was tilting left-ward at an alarming rate. So we left to find another state run by adults who understand that water runs downhill. I take no joy in others' suffering. I have family and friends still in California. It's just sad.

[Scott O]

Walt at 9:21 - A small correction is necessary. The solar mandate will cost far more than 20K to the consumers. That cost has to be mortgaged. And it raises the value of the house. It will increase the taxes. Don't forget to add maintenance. A lot of folks can't or won't go up on the roof to clean them and will have to pay for them. The controllers and panels don't last forever so you'll have to replace them before your 30 year mortgage is up and now you're paying double. And it's one more thing to insure. Increase the insurance payment. And just wait until the trees your neighbor planted start to block the sun - call the lawyer! You will still have to pay the power company, because you are still connected. Those foggy or cloudy days will run the bill up. Forget natural gas - the leftys are working on banning that, so what heats those new houses on non-sunny days? Ha ha ha - yeah, it's going to be swell!

[fish]

Posted by: Jig Wiggly | 12 September 2019 at 08:59 PM

Oh jeffy.....so deep....so profound!

....what a nitwit.

[Bill Tozer]

....what a nitwit

Yep, California’s own dumb to dumber. And all the problems, including homelessness, are growing worse.

[Walt]

Scott,, I was being generous. I haven't priced a solar array
lately.
My new neighbors (transplants from Paradise) put in a big solar system. It won't do much good come Winter, since the Sun hides behind the hill come noon.
That setup must have cost plenty.

[J. Barron]

Homelessness, drugs, money wasted on solar power, poor education, crime, eco nuts, libs, and worst of all people under 40 who aren't educated enough to understand this shithole called California. Nearly 100% of you chimed in on the same wavelength of negativity and bitterness. Good job Ruminants, if misery loves company, you are in the right crowd.

Meanwhile, me and mine will be enjoying California's unsurpassed weather, beaches, deserts. mountains. redwoods and rivers. Best fresh fruit iand vegetablesn the world - our standard issue farm stand would put entire nations to shame. With the bounty of fresh produce and seafood, our restaurants are unsurpassed. In two hours I can be in Sierra wilderness or downtown San Francisco or walking on the beach. Meanwhile, back home in a very small racist group of old men, hate and bitterness fill your every pore.

We all have choices, I'm at a loss why you choose yours. Your bitterness is not going to change California one iota, mostly because no on is listening to you. Keep bitching and moaning. Enjoy your day and your fetid lives.

[Scott O]

BT - "And all the problems, including homelessness, are growing worse."
Well - there you go again. 'Bitching and moaning'!
Just whistle a happy tune and go to Tahoe or some other whitey-white happy place and everything will be swell.

[Todd Juvinall]

NO AMEWRICAN FLAGS ON STAGE LAST NIGHT?

[fish]

Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 13 September 2019 at 07:38 AM

NO AMEWRICAN FLAGS ON STAGE LAST NIGHT?

What’s an AMEWRICAN FLAG?

[Walt]

LOL "jigger" Barron.. Good luck getting to "all those places" when your Proggy pals outlaw the use of oil. All you will have to drive is an elec. ECO buggy. Going to plug it into a tree?
Yup,, we do have good food.. IF you can afford to buy it with 15 dollar an hour wait staff.
Seen the price of good chow at a nice BBQ supplier? 40 bucks for a plate of ribs! (the good ones) You should stick to being a fast food critic. It's cheaper.

As for crime it's your side that's "decriminalizing" crime Nope don't lock up the SOB that just held up the corner 7-11
Nor the one who just stole that gun.(It was less than 500 bucks in value)
I say put the homeless camp next door to YOU.. Whatda say???

[Walt]

One more thing Jeffy, if Ca. was so great, then explain why anyone who can, is leaving ? and taking their big bucks with them?
"People have long dreamed of moving to California, but increasingly the people in the state are looking to get out.

According to recently released data from the US Census, about 38,000 more people left California than entered it in 2018. This is the second straight year that migration to the state was negative, and it’s a trend that is speeding up. Every year since 2014, net migration has fallen.
https://qz.com/1599150/californias-population-could-start-shrinking-very-soon/

[fish]

Meanwhile, me and mine will be enjoying California's unsurpassed weather, beaches, deserts. mountains. redwoods and rivers. Best fresh fruit iand vegetablesn the world - our standard issue farm stand would put entire nations to shame. With the bounty of fresh produce and seafood, our restaurants are unsurpassed. In two hours I can be in Sierra wilderness or downtown San Francisco or walking on the beach. Meanwhile, back home in a very small racist group of old men, hate and bitterness fill your every pore.

Good....I'll see you there! It's telling that your reasoning is so poor that you think we aren't out enjoying all those same things on a regular basis....and even more telling that you need to inject the "racist" label into a discussion that hasn't had anything to do with race!

"Oh shit.....my argument is so embarassingly weak again! I'll just call them racists...that always distracts them"!

Even Obersturmbannführer Frisch acknowledged that we weren't racist a while back! He followed that with a bunch of, "Yeah, but...... Yeah, but...... Yeah, but......! but the point remains.

I think it physically hurt him to do so!

[J. Barron]

Walt-

"One more thing Jeffy, if Ca. was so great, then explain why anyone who can, is leaving?"

But "everyone" doesn't include You, George and Todd??? You sumptin kind of special?

Something tells me you love to wallow in your own self pity. Woe is me. Look at me. Pity me. I'm trapped here in California and don't have the means to escape. Think I'll sit here and stew over it and write letters to the editor about f'd up this place is. Hypochondriacs or something.

[Walt]

"Fresh fruits and veggies.." From South of the border,, and Indonisia. Better look at the "product from" label next time.

[J. Barron]

Guess you don't get out much Walt. Grocery Outlet is not a farm stand. How come you still in California when "everyone who can" is leaving?

[Walt]

Because I can Jeffy. So just what are you going to lie about today?
You can shop at Whole Paycheck foods, and Hippie Mart.
Now don't forget to follow that pony, for the road apples... They are "organic" too.

[fish]

Grocery Outlet is not a farm stand.

Remember Walt.....it's critically important not only that a person shops at "Farm Stand", but that all their friends see them shopping at a Farm Stand.

[Walt]

I bet all those cheap buffet platters are all "high end" goods too... Right? not the cheap processed stuff bought by the ton.
Hit up the Oriental places in Reno? can you honestly say they didn't clean out the local pound a few days before?
Just for Jeffy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DuZ6qW2jy4
Eat up!!
Maybe Steve can take you with him to China on the next check in with Dear Leader.

[J. Barron]

Walt Branson. What a stooge.

Walt- "One more thing Jeffy, if Ca. was so great, then explain why anyone who can, is leaving"

Me- "And why aren't you leaving Walt?"

Walt- "Because I can"

[Walt]

Good catch there Jeffy, you can read,, AND cut and paste.
Any other tricks?

[Walt]

I know your last name TOO!

[Scott O]

The leftys posting on this topic are just hilarious. The fact that they can continue to enjoy life and travel to anywhere they wish somehow 'proves' there aren't serious and growing problems in the once golden state. I'm sure Marie Antoinette was quite pleased with her life before her head became separated from her body. Seems the reality for others in France wasn't all party hearty at the beach.
As far as the charge that we conservatives are just old cranky racists - well - you're only as old as you feel and I feel pretty good.
Cranky?
That's laughable.
Racist?
Um - I think you're looking in the mirror, dude.
The racist deal is, as was earlier pointed out just a bad crutch for a argument with no foundation.
California is still a pretty place with great scenery and if you can afford it - great.
You might, though, want to check the stats on who's coming in and who's checking out.
The good news is that in the long run, housing prices will come down!

[J.Barron]

Scotty-
Dwelling on the "serious and growing problems". There have always been serious and growing problems and there has always always the Chicken Little cohort standing on the corner, long in tooth, and even longer in jaw holding the sign - the end is coming soon.

[Gregory]

The California Left are sure as shootin' that the temperatures are really going to skyrocket in the coming decade. They've mortgaged the state's future to pave the path to the brave new future.

I'm pretty sure of the evidence to the contrary... that in ten years the Sun will be in the doldrums... putting out about the same amount of heat but a fraction of the protective electromagnetic fields and the low energy solar cosmic rays that shield us from the very high energy galactic cosmic rays that produce the cloud condensation nuclei that help create clouds.

Will it be straight line of temperature reductions? Of course not. It's weather.

More GCR means more low clouds means more of the Sun's heat is reflected away.

We live in interesting times. Yes, dear friends, there will be an end to the climate debate. Soon.

[J. Barron]

Gregory-
Does the kooky "California Left" include the mountain recreation industries, our primary energy purveyors, The California Fruit and Nut Growers association, Westands, The California Commercial Fisherman's lobby, and the military? All foolish people to be sure, spending vast amounts of money despite your prognostication. Why don't they listen to you and Russ and George? Because you are fliers, outliers, and armchair quarterbacks without a penny in the game.

[fish]

There have always been serious and growing problems and there has always always the Chicken Little cohort standing on the corner, long in tooth, and even longer in jaw holding the sign - Gun Control Now......#MeToo.....Black Lives Matter.....(Where's my "free") Healthcare......Income Inequality......End Corporate Welfare.......Environmental Justice......#RESIST

[jon smith]

Crickets. Not a single comment. Silence speaks volumes. You own this. You can pretend no one takes notice, but we do and we don't forget.

Posted by: J. Barron | 06 September 2019 at 09:44 PM

[Walt]

LOL Jeffy,, those include the fruit and nut growers that DIDN'T get their water for the last few years? Six or eight fish in the Delta needed it more.
You really need to go back to Frisco. Enjoy the fruits of Proggy labor.

[Walt]

Things keep getting better and better.
Recycled "jon" smith. Jeffy is getting pathetic.
Keep it coming cricket boy.

[Walt]

One more thing for Jeffy to pat himself on the back for.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/13/california-leads-the-nation-in-housing-poverty/
"The September 10 study shows 18.2 percent of California’s population is poor, far above the 13 percent poverty rate in Arkansas, 16 percent in Mississippi, and the 14.6 percent in West Virginia."

[Gregory]

"Barron" 137pm

Why do cattle stampede?

"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one." - Charles Mackay

It isn't just me, George and Russ.

[J. Barron]

Gregory-
How come you, Walt, Todd and the rest of your gang of experts haven't been hired as "consultants" by any of the industry? George is a "consultant". Apparently, because the people who KNOW what's going on, couldn't care less about conspiracy theories from the old, irrelevant farts in the peanut gallery.

[George Rebane]

1. On what topics do the leftists hear "crickets"? I'll gladly respond, but I'm not a mind reader.

2. JB 137pm - Follow the money. The only ones 'concerned' about climate change are those who stand to make money being so concerned.

3. JB 126pm - That is patently false, and is due to your ignorance, or promoted narrative, or both. (One of the benefits of having had a lot of birthdays.)

[J. Barron]

George 3:01-
Do "mountain recreation industries, our primary energy purveyors, The California Fruit and Nut Growers association, Westands, The California Commercial Fisherman's lobby, and the military" "stand to make money being so concerned"??? I hardly think so. Explain just how a salmon fisherman or a ski resort is going to "make money" by preparing for climate change. They stand to lose their shirts if they are not concerned.

[Walt]

LOL
" rest of your gang of experts haven't been hired as "consultants" by any of the industry?"
Says the one who got FIRED,, Real publicly, and is so spineless
can't use his real name. Nice yellow streak you have running up your back.

When one is a triggered jiggered,(operating under another dirty sock puppet) that's the kind of crap one comes up with.

[George Rebane]

JB 259pm - Mr Barron is now definitely in the running for the 'I don't know what's going on' trophy with a special dispensation for an ongoing reading disability. I never said that I am currently a consultant, but the IRS has proof aplenty that I have been a very successful consultant. And there is no evidence in these pages that the right-leaning commenters here have ever proposed any conspiracy theories; I most certainly have not. That appears to be another fevered aberration of the liberal mind.

[Walt]

I need a consultant... So Jeffy, can you recommend a twist top wine that goes with KFC? I hear your an expert.

[Don Bessee]

LOL!

https://www.wsj.com/articles/take-two-aspirin-and-call-me-by-my-pronouns-11568325291

;-)

[Bill Tozer]

Rent control during an acute housing shortage.

“Hendrix argues that landlords, when faced with limits on how much they can raise their rents, will simply take their rental units off the market, converting them into condominiums that can be sold at market price.

“A study of rent control in San Francisco published in the journal American Economic Review this month found that "while rent control prevents displacement of incumbent renters in the short run, the lost rental housing supply likely drove up market rents in the long run, ultimately undermining the goals of the law."

“Supporters of rent control counter that they protect current tenants from rent spikes.”

https://reason.com/2019/09/12/california-passes-statewide-rent-control-despite-a-massive-housing-shortage/

[Scott O]

J Boring at 3:10 - Because they want tax subsidies, increased budgets etc.
And please do list some citations.
Just because a few dolts got together and wrung their hands while putting out daily press releases for the masses to demonstrate their political correctness doesn't constitute any real threat of any kind. The weather changes in California. A lot. It's a drought and flood cycle that's been going on for eons. Any business in this state that relies on the weather conditions of a certain sort would do well to make sure they have sufficient resources to make it through the lean times and bank the surplus from the good times.

[Gregory]

"Barron" 259pm

There's no money in telling people what I give freely,.. there is no crisis.

The.money is all in servimg the rentier class.

[Scott O]

Don B 4:20 - A relative of mine (resides in Cali and wishes he didn't) relates his last medical visit. He was given a sheet of paper with a list of questions such as "are there any fire arms in you house" and what "sexual orientation do you identify with".
He said he just put N/A on all of them and the receptionist didn't say a thing.
Push back is the best answer.

[Jerry Fedor]

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

You people are too stupid to follow that simple advice.

Here you are supplicants to some guy who had the balls to follow his convictions and move out among the cactus and kangaroo rats, yet here you are bitching and moaning about what a shit hole place California is to live. And you don't have it in you to pull up stakes and go live among yer own kind. Go! Git!

Can't feel sorry for a pack of whiners who do nothing but whine. All bark and no bite, no natural born teeth among you.

Posted by: Jig Wiggly | 19 June 2019 at 09:19 PM

[Scott O]

"Can't feel sorry for a pack of whiners who do nothing but whine."
Hmmm - sounds like the Dem candidates for POTUS.
Say - if anyone doesn't like Trump, they could exit for better political climes. Canada? Venezuela?
"...move out among the cactus and kangaroo rats."
Where is that?

[George Rebane]

Someone needs to demonstrate that salmon fishermen are spending unsubsidized monies to fight climate change. When considering such arguments, should we all review the definition of 'pissing in the wind'?

[Walt]

WOW!! The pet Proggys have gone off the deep end.
RED FLAG recipients if there ever was any.

[Bill Tozer]

“... and yet they come.”—Dr. Rebane

[Gregory]

"Here you are supplicants to some guy who had the balls to follow his convictions and move out among the cactus and kangaroo rats, yet here you are bitching and moaning about what a shit hole place California is to live. And you don't have it in you to pull up stakes and go live among yer own kind. Go! Git!"

That's funny... there isn't anyplace I know of that is a community of folk with MENSA or better IQs and degrees in the hard sciences, or accomplished musicians outside of a few collegiate environments and R&D shops... so I just make do with the average folk (idiots is too harsh) that live wherever I do.

It does seem the local lefties have a hard time accepting folks with different belief systems, much like the Nazis didn't like coexisting with Jews, but tough shit, guys. I lives here.

[Bill Tozer]

Re: Sept 14 update

“Minimum-wage laws are another awkward fit for TNC drivers. Activists suggest that drivers should be “on-the-clock” whenever they’re logged in to the Uber app to accept rides—but again, drivers have the choice to accept or decline requests, so it’s not clear why a driver sitting in a parking lot but declining rides should be paid the same as a driver actively moving customers. The issue is complicated further because many drivers work for Uber and Lyft simultaneously, logged in to both apps and accepting whichever ride comes in first or looks most promising. Should these drivers get paid twice?...l.

“AB5 could even disrupt traditional small businesses far removed from the tech economy of Uber and Lyft. Workers in many firms—from prosaic nail salons to high end yoga studios—are often independent contractors, for many of the same reasons as TNC drivers. The work is either secondary to another job or part-time by choice for flexibility with family and school. Wrapping these firms up in a bill aimed at multi-billion-dollar startups could crush a lot of small entrepreneurship in California. AB5 currently exempts manicurists, but only until 2022, and exempting certain other workers includes requirements—such as a barber issuing a Form 1099 to a salon—unlikely to be met by poor and immigrant workers.“

https://www.city-journal.org/california-assembly-bill-5

[Walt]

AB5 just might cramp the style of a curtain ECO "nonprofit" we all know of.

[Walt]

The the idiot who will remain nameless, who was bragging about how great the Ca. food growing supposedly is. Thank your PROGGY friends.
Trump givith (removing water restrictions to growers)
The asswipes in SAC taketh away.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-09-14/california-legislature-bill-trump-environmental-rollbacks
"The Butte County Farm Bureau, however, said the bill would “dismantle” the ability to produce food in California. Mike Wade of the California Farm Water Coalition said the consequences will be dire if Newsom does not veto the bill."

Send in the crickets to save your butt.

[Todd Juvinall]

Here si the right place.
Looks like AB5 is making the Union Newspaper crazy. The state has decided that a "contractor" is really an employee and that will overhaul almost every business in the state and it ain't good. Well, the newspapers all support these idiots of the left and this is what they get.

[Jig Wiggly]

Tozer 9/13. Bbbbbbut Wally says that anyone who can, is moving out of California. You are making a liar out of him. Time to move.

[Walt]

Now your just making shit up Jeffy.
It still don't change the fact more are leaving than coming.
Save for your gimmedat and ilegales.
It shows your don't read posted facts.

[George Rebane]

re JigW 1213pm - Another beautiful example of a desperate diversion when they attempt to debate without any visible support for their counters. Their narrative that everything is hunky-dory in California cannot countenance the net out-migration stats of the state's middle class and wealth producers.

[Bill Tozer]

Sorry Fat boy, you don’t have the power and you ain’t the boss of me. Now git. And take Rock Hunter with youse.

[Jig Wiggly]

Wally 9:13
"One more thing Jeffy, if Ca. was so great, then explain why anyone who can, is leaving ? "

12:35
"Now your just making shit up Jeffy."

You are certifiably insane or just really, really stupid to think you can write something then one day later deny you wrote it. At this rate you may well reach the Juvinall level of stupid. "Anyone" doesn't appear to apply to the anyones on this page. Maybe they don't have the resources to leave a hot kitchen?

[Walt]

Yes I can,, but I won't. Poor Jeffy.. No one showing up at your empty tomb of a blog?

[Walt]

Now that the whole state in under rent control, there will be even less places to rent, driving even more people out of the state.

I see the TROLL known as jiggered Barron (so I lied,, no longer nameless) won't answer up about the state screwing over the Calif. farmers.. How dare Trump lift that water ban.

"Best fresh fruit iand vegetablesn the world - our standard issue farm stand would put entire nations to shame. With the bounty of fresh produce and seafood, our restaurants are unsurpassed"

Nope,, not so much... Kinda like your spell'n......

[Walt]

Now lest we forget the 15 buck an hour job killer,, and employer killer.
https://www.epionline.org/oped/o161/

So where is the genius that will say those people won't be leaving the state?
As I stated a few months back, my cousin (a distant one) who had a water truck business right here in the county gave the 🖕 to the state (thanks to over regulation) and moved to Texas.

[Jig Wiggly]

Walt-

I would personally like to see more salmon and native riparian habitat and less subsidized water exported out of the country.

And you think a water truck driver is a big loss to the state? Your brother won't be missed. Guaranteed.

[Walt]

Good job Jeffy, throw throw own post under the bus.
Screw the farmers.
No wonder you got fired.

[Walt]

Ya' see Jeffy? that's show just how stupid you really are.
That's four water trucks that won't be here come the next large fire. Go ahead lard ass, and say again they won't be missed.
Thanks to the State and forcing his trucks off the road.(mandatory replacement) His trucks ran just fine.

[Walt]

Since contractors are having to replace ALL their older equipment in the state, guess who gets the extra cost passed on to them? So don't bitch when you get the big fat price of a bid for your next build. You can pass that cost on to your renter... OOPPSSS!!! RENT CONTROL!!!

[Fuzz]

As referenced in Dr. Rebane’s Friday the 13th Full Moon update:

“Although I have been graciously accused of having a unique perspective here and there, generally I find that my views are shared by a significant cohort of learned people who are also students of the human condition. However, over the years this fact has been totally invisible to the above cited local leftwingers. As archived in RR’s comment streams, these poorly informed worthies continue their uninterrupted braying that all my commentaries and critiques are the unique offspring of an old, miserable, and lonely mind in these foothills, the defunct offal of ideas about which no one cares – and yet they come.”

Exhibit A

You really are an ignorant moron troll. Obama put those kids in cages and his admin did the spy crap. But you trolls have TDS and drunks so maybe I'll give you a break. Same for MMM. Morons all."

You talk like my 4 year old grandson and that is nothing to joke about. Your verbal syntax and sentence structure are at a 1st grade level; you are one creepy guy documented for the world to see.

II smell a perv in old man flaking skin and curled toenails. Your sheets must be gross.

Posted by: Jig Wiggly | 16 September 2019 at 08:33 PM

[Bill Tozer]

Liberals think that an increase of a few ppm in a trace gas like carbon dioxide is an environmental crisis, even though it has no apparent effect on the environment. (Don’t get me started on “extreme weather events.”) On the other hand, there are parts of the U.S. where the environment, in very practical ways, is in steep decline. Like San Francisco.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/09/whats-the-environmental-crisis.php

[Bill Tozer]

Re: the Sept 13 update

“But what is important to continue noting is the Left’s confusion of criticism as the necessary precursor to change.” —Dr. Rebane

I always read anything I find about or by Camille Paglia. An transgender person decried as a transphobic. A feminist decried as traitor to the New Feminists and the Me Too Movement. Why? Because she dares to criticize.

“Finally, Paglia implies that failure to critically question one’s own viewpoints creates a consuming ideology. This has happened to the political left which is “so consumed by its own ideology that it claims repressive and dictatorial powers over both private and public life.” Doing so, notes Paglia, drives people toward the opposing political side via reaction rather than reasoned thought.

“In a politically correct world, Paglia’s thoughts on transgenderism run counterculture. Yet coming from the inside of transgenderism, does she have insight that many of us could never have? Given this, wouldn’t we be wise to heed her advice, and exercise caution before encouraging children to question their gender and make irreversible changes to their bodies?”

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/paglia-criticizing-transgenderism-not-transphobic