Sandbox - 5sep19

[Apologies for the delay in providing new sand.  You all seem to have covered every imaginable issue in the last Sandbox.  And there is more to be said about it all.  Haven’t heard of more dropouts in the derby beyond Gillibrand - we’ll update scores when I get home.  Sally forth!  gjr]

Comments

[Gregory]

Glorious clean sand!

I'm still waiting for "Robert Cross" to come back and apologize to me and my family for the smear.

Bobbi, as do some others, has an idea that top colleges, like Mudd, are country clubs for the children of the wealthy. No, Bobbi... they're a shit load of hard work. There is no royal road to competence in math, physics, chemistry, engineering and the humanities, simultaneously.

And the children of the wealthy aren't all that smart.

[L]

crabb @ 7:34- Pretty sure turbine blades kill millions of times more birds when used as intended (20% of the time) than they could floating off Midway forever.

Not even sure how that could happen. Birds certainly won't be ingesting the things, but maybe if enough albatross line up on one edge, it could go Guam and drown them.

At least the floaters don't bother bats, deafen people or cause psychosis.

[Todd Juvinall]

Cartoon boys bigged out apparently. He sees what an idiot he was with his assertions here. Typical.

[rl crabb]

Yo, Scotty. Sorry for the delay. Some of us actually sleep at night.
The whole point of my comments are aimed at your contempt for any effort to move the ball forward on energy and the environment. Any new technology is going to have flaws. Creative minds will hopefully work out those problems.
But not here, where all you do is bitch about any energy source that isn't fossilized. I only watched some of the CNN marathon, but I was sorry to see most of the candidates ignore nuclear power. Just like the other technologies, the problems can be addressed.
As for my bad attitude when I come here, it's just a reflection of the hate and contempt I see from most of the comments. I really don't give a shit whether you like me or not. It's the nation that suffers from the inability of this left-right schism.
Okay, you can go back to mocking me now.

[Todd Juvinall]

ScottO isn't it rich that Crabb comes here with his shit attitude and his shit opinions to criticize others and namecall. I think it is a mental disorder. Bit liberals are like that. They never do squat about the tungs they complain about but they sure know how to excoriate others. Maybe Crabb had stock in Solyndra and is really upset and has not recovered yet.

[George Rebane]

RL 708am - I don’t mean to speak for all the other readers, but I do believe that part of what you sense as blanket opposition to moving “the ball forward on energy and environment” is that so much of that effort is expended for the sole purpose of expanding political power, and as such has little or no support from prudent applications of technology and/or expenditure of public monies. At least that is the basis for my own critiques of such politically correct enterprises. Where you can show the error of such opposition, I will be most appreciative.

[L]

RL, perhaps you misinterpret the attitude many of us have concerning our energy future. The problem with both wind and solar is that they are not 'scaleable" for commercial replacement of our existing plant. Not enough land area available, not enough energy density is solar or wind. That is, physics and economics both tell us that pursuit of these solutions is a colossal waste of money.

Meanwhile, the left has imposed ongoing costs of trillions by demonizing nuclear powe,r which is the only known solution- be it thorium, fusion or conventional reactors.

What you see isn't "hate and contempt," but disgust with the growing proportion of our population that lacks the numeracy to comprehend that we will soon be forced by economic growth of the third world to adopt the only technology known to be capable of the task. Until that sinks in, the left will remain the major impediment to a successful human future. Pissed? You would be too if you understood the dimensions of the problem, which you and the entire left clearly do not.

[J. Barron]

Rebane 7:29
The right's opposition to "moving the ball forward" (and GW denial) is all about profit.

[Steven Frisch]

I am just glad that Russ will finally have a use for all those light bulbs he squirreled away 10 years ago waiting for the US to elect and Luddite child President.

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/459884-trump-administration-rolls-back-obama-era-lightbulb-rules

[Steven Frisch]

L, it's pretty clear that you would be fun to debate on these issues if a clear set of ground rules could be established for a rational discussion, but I do not expect that here. Ever.

But I thought I would point out that by far the number one killer of birds in the United States is house cats...yep, simple domesticated house cats.

Not to mention the fact that it is pretty transparently inconsistent of you guys to be bemoaning bird deaths from wind turbines when the greatest existential threat to most bird species today is changes in habitat caused by a combination of human intrusion on habitat and changing range due to climate change...which comes from the very technology that wind is replacing.

[Walt]

Morn'n jigger Barron TROLL. Your "GW" is made up horse shit.
Based on manufactured "science*".
Your AOC nut,, We only have ten years left to live".
Oh.. and the latest just from last week,, "Hurricanes are man made".

[Steven Frisch]

".... so much of that effort is expended for the sole purpose of expanding political power..."

There is that ridiculous conspiratorial thinking again. When a rational educated man adopts such conspiratorial thinking one needs to wonder what exactly is going on in there.

We know what's going in there with Todd, he is a mental midget; but with George and Greg, it is like their occasionally rational minds are caught in some kind of new 21st century virus.

[Walt]

Here ya' go Frishy,, Ain't solar great?
https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-solar-bird-deaths-20160831-snap-story.html
"Reporting from NIPTON, Calif. — A macabre fireworks show unfolds each day along I-15 west of Las Vegas, as birds fly into concentrated beams of sunlight and are instantly incinerated, leaving wisps of white smoke against the blue desert sky.
Workers at the Ivanpah Solar Plant have a name for the spectacle: “Streamers.” "

[Steven Frisch]

Posted by: Walt | 05 September 2019 at 08:04 AM

I will let you do the math on the comparison.

https://insider.si.edu/2013/01/cats-kill-2-4-billion-birds-annually/

[Walt]

One more thing to point out "GW" is bogus,, Been through Truckee lately? (I'm sure one or two of you have) Just what do you see up on those hills above town? That's RIGHT!! SNOW!!
It made it all the way through Summer. You know the exact opposite of what SHOULD BE,, if "GW" worshipers were even close to being right.
I'm sure the true believers will have a real good excuse.

[fish]

Posted by: J. Barron | 05 September 2019 at 07:49 AM

......and GW denial) is all about profit.

Morning Steve!

Indeed.

Profit for Democrat insiders to be more precise.....not that many Solyndras to go around.

[Walt]

That's what cats do. One of mine is having bird for breakfast as we speak.
Getting cooked in mid air ain't natural. And all those endangered species with wings.. But that's OK.. Right? But some dude with a plow gets fined for one dead endangered whatever (even if they can't find one) in his field.

[Marvelous Merv the AV Perv]

,,,gotta stare in wonderment at the stupidity of the Circle of Jerkers comments on recycling wind machine parts and bird deaths.

Buncha flat earthers me thinks,,,among their many other mental deficiencies

How is that nuclear waste recycling going for y’alls??? Is it still sitting in drums in a hole in the desert???

Where do fiberglass hulled yachts go to die?

What a buncha lame brains

[Todd Juvinall]

I have said this AGW crap is and always has been a hoax. Perpetrated for political control. I am conscientious about the environment as any eco nut but I am a realist and figured out their strategy long ago. I like fossil fuels. When the Steve Frisch windmill can supply the heat to the homes of the north on a windless day I may be found wrong. But CO2 is not a pollutant even though the politicians say is it is., I give the Frisch's credit though for being able to shyest the taxpayers.

[Walt]

The jiggered boob is missing in action. Yup, that's what happens when a TROLL sticks his head up his own posterior.
So tell us again how great the Proggy gun laws are at stopping criminals from getting guns. You can start right here in Nevada Co. Then you can yap about Tex.

[Walt]

Dougy comes out of the closet.

[Scott O]

Crabb is a typical lefty - "As for my bad attitude when I come here, it's just a reflection of the hate and contempt I see from most of the comments. I really don't give a shit whether you like me or not."
Your attitude is your responsibility, Bob.
You look pretty childish trying to blame others.
I get tired of your typical left wing BS about how conservatives don't care about birds or the environment or poor people or whatever.
Just because our solutions don't match yours is no excuse to claim we don't care. The fact is that the left and the green weenies constantly try to minimize or coverup the damage their 'solutions' to so-called global warming are causing.
And the same bunch constantly lie about the true carbon footprint of things like electric cars.
Saying you don't care whether I like you or not is no excuse to smear and lie about people.
If you have an accusation to make against me or anyone else, you have the responsibility to prove the point.
Well - as an adult you do, but if you just want to blame other people for your rude and insulting behavior there's nothing I can do but sadly shake my head.

[J. Barron]

Walt-
Your "GW" is made up horse shit. Based on manufactured "science*".

Is this what you know, or simply what you have been fed by right wing media funded by the fossil fuel lobby? Uneducated and dumb, you and Todd are precisely the target audience for this propaganda. You probably still smoke cigarettes in defiance of the manufactured medical conspiracy that says they are harmful.

The numbers of birds killed by solar and wind energy are a tiny little drip in the bucket compared with cats, high rise buildings, and habitat destruction. If you have any sense what so ever, you know this to be true, but will go yo your grave defending your asinine position.

[Scott O]

Steven at 8:18 - And just what is your logic, here?
We were talking about wind mill generators killing birds. Are you saying it's OK as long as cats kill more?

[Scott O]

Well - MM at 8:32 certainly sums up the left's attitude.
Thanks for being honest. Admitting that your solutions are bad for the environment but it's OK because you're on the side of the angels.

[fish]

Posted by: Marvelous Merv the AV Perv | 05 September 2019 at 08:32 AM

dugsKKKi Keachie.......diminishing the tradition of Scottish intellectual excellence each and every day!

Although I do think you finally have a posting handle appropriate to your personality.

[Walt]

Jiggy Barron,, you have already shown yourself as an idiot.
Facts are not on your side. From gun control to AGW you have nothing but bumper stickers. No facts or proof.

[J. Barron]

Wally-
When the sum of your scientific "knowledge" is spoon fed (in little words with big pictures) from American Rifleman and Breitbart . . . uneducated pawn. Have another cigarette.

[George Rebane]

Our left wing readers’ complaints about not having any opportunity to engage in substantive debates here would ring a bit more true had any of them taken the opportunity to deconstruct the arguments presented in, for example, these commentaries -
‘Scattershots - 6aug19’
‘Democrats’ Big Lie #3671 - America’s economy’
‘Smaller Governments and Corporations’

Until any of them do, they are continuing to blow hot air about having the desire for any substantive debates about any of the issues that separate us.

[Walt]

A little bit of fact for the factless AGW lunatic.
https://www.thegwpf.com/media-ignores-michael-manns-court-loss-it-doesnt-fit-the-warmist-agenda/
"MEDIA IGNORES MICHAEL MANN’S COURT LOSS — IT DOESN’T FIT THE WARMIST AGENDA
Date: 30/08/19Editorial, Issues & Insights
Last week, a Canadian court tossed out a lawsuit in which Michael Mann, the researcher who published the idolized hockey stick temperature chart, had sued another researcher for libel. Did the mainstream media run with this story? Of course not. That would ruin the narrative."

Ain't it GREAT?? Mr. AGW himself can't defend his AGW horse shit.
And Frishy one thinks he can? LOL!!!

[Steven Frisch]

Posted by: Scott O | 05 September 2019 at 08:43 AM

No Scott, what I am saying is that one has to put bird mortality from renewable energy resources into 1) the context of overall mortality, and 2) mortality caused by alternatives, like fossil fuels and CO2 emissions and their impact on habitat and range compared to renewables.

Walt is essentially cherry picking to create a false narrative.

[Walt]

Hummm Not going to explain why there is still snow.. Got it.
Ignore that fact too. Just don't fit the AGW BS,, so ignore it.
" Snow.. to be a thing of the past" (stated 20 years ago)

[Walt]

Sure Frishcy,, at least we have some cherries to pick.
What do you have? manufactured data. Weather stations in the middle of parking lots. Yup, that's going to give accurate readings of heat.

[J. Barron]

Walt-
A headline that includes "warmest agenda" might tip off a more educated reader, but is catnip to ditch diggers and nail pounders who wouldn't know a photon from a proton. How did that prayer thing go to dissolve the hurricane? You must feel like a complete idiot.

https://davidappell.blogspot.com/2019/08/a-decision-in-mann-v-ball.html

[Jig Wiggly]

I found a team bumper sticker for RR readers.

"Imagine denying climate but believing Mexico is going to pay for the wall"

[Walt]

You sure are one desperate bastard. Gotta go hunting on the fringes. Never heard of the guy. So you find some obscure blog.

Uh,, how did that "prayer thing go" to take Trump down? That was all over the news.

If Mann had an ounce of credibility, he would have forked over the data and said, "HERE!! PROVE IT WRONG." Nope, he destroyed it.
That's fact, numbnuts.
Your only concern about AGW is how much OPM you can get from it.

Still won't address the snow issue above Truckee. It should not be there is there is AGW.
That's a Jiggered boob action. Coward.

[Bill Tozer]

J Barron @ 9:09 am

Not so fast. That is Mann’s spin on things. Mann refused to produce the documents and his research to the defense. The defense stated to the judge that he could readily refute and disprove Mann’s findings if Mann produced his research docs. The plaintiff refused. This was a libel case. Since the plaintiff refused repeatedly to turn over his documents as to how he reached his conclusions, there is no way the defense could prove there was no libel. Thus, the case was dropped.

[L]

Steve, I'm well aware that house cats are hard on songbirds, but I'd guess they kill zero eagles, hawks, large owls and nearly zero bats. Wind turbines do kill birds, the possession of a single feather from which can get you incarcerated (unless you're Native American). So we see yet another example of the classic Marxist dictum of means/ends, eggs/omelets. It's ok, cause it's for a noble cause.

Contrary to our wishes, some things are truly, physically, impossible. Building enough windmills and solar panels to power our current society (much less a more prosperous future one) is one of those things. With a little math, you can easily demonstrate this to yourself and don't have even to admit it to the rest of us; you don't need to apologize, just stop encouraging self-destructive behavior by ignorant propagandists for a 'green' future. More like gangrene.

[Bill Tozer]

“The funny thing about people who advocate reducing the population to save the planet is that they always want to start by killing babies. They never seem to see themselves as members of the surplus population in need of extermination. What a strange coincidence.” —Matt Walsh

[Robert Cross]

Greg 11:47 -- My apologies, I mistook your arrogance and sense of entitlement based on the university you went to for that of a spoiled rich kid. In fact your story is not too dissimilar from my own.

George 8:55 -- it is difficult to engage in "substantive debates" when your writings are so couched in "right wing good guys- left wing bad guys" rhetoric that the discussion is over before it has even started, which, perhaps, is by design. You don't really discuss issues but instead use responses as fodder for your biased lampoons and then use the lack of response to further impugn with whom you disagree . This is not unlike Ahmed Chilabi's tactic of releasing a false story about WMD's to the press and then using those news releases as proof of his assertions.

[Walt]

Really? In just ten years? Has booker been smoking dope in Nevada City?
"Booker’s plan aims to “accelerate the end” of fossil fuels and aims to achieve “100% carbon-free electricity” by the year 2030."
Maybe our ECO bastard can show us the simple math on that. How many windmills, how many states to be paved over with solar panels. Dam every river,(even the S. Yuba!) for hydro.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/05/cory-booker-millennial-republicans-really-with-us-climate-change/

[fish]

Posted by: Robert Cross | 05 September 2019 at 09:44 AM

Wow……how many editorial re-writes did that little gem suffer through Roberta?

[Walt]

See folks? When confronted with reality the ECO nuts run for cover.
With snow still on the ground in plain sight of Truckee from last Winter, it's kinda tough to sell GW. So just change the subject.

[Don Bessee]

Its a say it over and over and perhaps it will be so all evidence to the contrary -

Thursday on CNBC’s “Squawk Box,” network host Jim Cramer argued the U.S. economy gave it leverage over China in the trade dispute between the two nations.
Cramer told host Joe Kernan that the only ones talking about a recession as a result of the trade war with the Chinese were them in the media.

“I think President Trump is set in his ways because he doesn’t see any weakening,” Cramer said. “I mean, look at the jobless report today. I mean, someone earlier said manufacturing was in recession. Well, manufacturing has been in recession in this country for ages. What I’m surprised at is how strong the consumer is. I think that the Chinese still need it more than we do. I know when I say that, everyone just is, ‘But wait a second, that’s a nice bias that you’re showing.’ It’s statistical. I think our economy is very strong.”

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/09/05/cnbcs-jim-cramer-i-think-the-only-people-talking-about-a-recession-is-us/

;-)

[Bill Tozer]

What nobody has told me is how much of climate change is manmade. What percent? How many degrees? Simple questions. A headline yesterday was Climate Change is causing hurricanes. Ok, I can buy that since the oceans are warming. But, the article did not say how much of that Climate Change is due to man. The article implied it was man’s fault, but did not prove the allegation.

My objection to solar fields and windmill farms is the massive footprint on the landscape. Now, solar panels on a home may be a good supplement to PGE power, but on a large scale, how effective is it? We have not even build an effective low carbon grid, not to mention transmission loss. I see solar at the residential level as just an expensive battery charger. As mentioned before, the largest solar field in CA can run only the NYC subway system. Nothing more. One nuclear plant is equivalent to 17 massive solar fields...without the ugly footprint. It will take solar and wind turbine fields the size of Pennsylvania to meet most of East Coast’s needs, barring any inefficiencies, weather, and times of zero output.

R.L. mention solar panels will evolve in efficiency. They already have. They have doubled the efficiency through the years, but physics will tell you that there is no chance that panels in its present form will achieve anything but a small improvement. A few percentage points, but the physics for big improvements is already achieved. Back to the drawing board.

I go back to the ice cores in the Antarctic. Drilled 2 miles down (10,000 feet, 400,000 years old. Those ice cores tell a story of our Earth. The warming preceded the increase of CO2 levels by a few hundred years every time. Now, one can say that the Antarctic is not global and pooh-pooh the findings (as many do), but if natural changes in the climate precedes increase in CO2 levels, it throws things on its head. Now they are drilling down to look for other gases such as nitrogen levels. And yes, the ice is above a giant lake.

The questions remain: What percentage of Climate Change is due to man’s activities? How many degrees? How many inches of sea level rise? Will achieving zero carbon emissions change anything?

[Gregory]

Bobbi 944am

Sense of entitlement? I earned the knowledge I have.

Non-apology not accepted, nice try, no points. And Mudd is a small (was 400 students, has grown to 800) liberal arts college of science and engineering, not a University.

20 Quatloos say Bobbi Cross remains Steve Frisch.

[fish]

Posted by: Gregory | 05 September 2019 at 10:56 AM

20 Quatloos say Bobbi Cross remains Steve Frisch.

👍

The smug, self-satisfied tone gave it away.....?

[Gregory]

toes 1046am

And that 400,000 year old ice core covers less than 1% of the age of visible life on Earth, about 540 MILLION years.

Shaviv and Veizer 2003, "Celestial driver of phanerozoic climate?" remains a key climate paper in my mind.

Zero carbon emissions will not change anything measurable besides the temperature of our homes in the heat of summer and cold of winter, our mobility and our wealth, which will transfer in large measure to our new masters, the folks who would keep track of CO2 emissions and settlements.

I'd be delighted to have a small fusion reactor power my home for pennies a day, or 99% efficient solar panels integrated into building materials, but we won't get there by the rocket scientists we send to Washington DC or Excremento passing laws to make it so.

[Gregory]

toes 923am

Ahhh, Michael Mann. I am transported back a few years ago to a Michael Mann Other Voices submission (w/Heidi Hall) to our own Tea Party Gazette
https://www.theunion.com/news/twi/heidi-hall-michael-mann-lets-have-a-worthy-debate/

Yes, let's have a worthy debate. Let's have Mann put his research out in the sunlight where all can see it, and perhaps Ms. Hall can keep the vodka in the liquor cabinet.

[Don Bessee]

Tell em sister -

Friedrichs said that since politicians, the American Civil Liberties Union, and teacher unions have “stuck their noses in, things have been falling apart.”

https://www.foxnews.com/media/former-public-school-teacher-warns-lenient-suspension-policies-are-dangerous

;-)

[George Rebane]

RobertC 944am - Of all the contributors to this blog, I as host am among those who present nothing but concrete refutable propositions with defined terms for those with the education and reasoning tools to counter. I discuss nothing but issues with citations, which should make it easy for the thinkers among you to destroy those propositions. And yes, at the end of my dissertations I do draw conclusions about who is in error given my previous arguments. Your inability to get past the conclusions is clear indication of your bankrupt arsenal of counters, since you claim that the conclusion was the sum and substance of my arguments, which, as the record shows, clearly it was not.

All you and yours need to do is to use MY words against me - give it a try. Thirteen years is a long time to duck the buck.

[Walt]

How the Proggys loved to give Trump crap. Then sure as shit, THEY trod on into the Frisco like street.... Barfoot.
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/09/05/cnn-map-mislabels-alabama-as-mississippi-in-hurricane-dorian-coverage/
"CNN on Thursday erroneously labeled Alabama as Mississippi during its coverage of Hurricane Dorian — an embarrassing error that earned the partisan news network mockery from White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham."

[Bill Tozer]

Ban everything

https://news.grabien.com/story-dems-climate-forum-ban-everything-supercut

“The CNN climate change townhall was a 7 hour long in kind donation to Trump’s 2020 re-election Good work everybody”. Buck Sexton

[J. Barron]

Tozer 9:32-
Kill babies? I think it would be much more palatable to spread a silent virus on a pandemic level that causes sterility. That's how I would do it. Painless and without grief. How would you do it? Walt would rather hand out guns to every homeless person.

I understand they experimented with a virus Todd's parents and unfortunately a human with only half a brain was birthed. Try and try again.

[Don Bessee]

Societal suicide and mass eugenics is the new socialist dems goal. Thanks! That could give us all 3 once again.

;-)

[J. Barron]

Interesting take on eugenics. Can't say I completely agree but thought provoking nonetheless. Mom recently died at 99. In her case, 75 would have been preferable for all concerned, and especially her.

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/why-i-hope-to-die-at-75?utm_source=pocket-newtab&fbclid=IwAR3kgUSIcf_xdag0AgDJESVyPeu6UVT1PcJE8QiVFrPUb-5Yddtfjx7voKc

[Walt]

It Todd tuned up the jiggered Barron, I would say he had it coming.

[Don Bessee]

The trolls don't even follow their own socialist goals -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/04/bernie-yes-im-courageous-enough-to-talk-about-population-control/

;-)

[Steven Frisch]

Posted by: Gregory | 05 September 2019 at 10:56 AM

"20 Quatloos say Bobbi Cross remains Steve Frisch."

I don't use a nom de guerre and don't need to; I say exactly what I think.

I think you under estimate just how many people think you are full of shit Greg.

[Todd Juvinall]

That's why we love your stuff here Steve Frisch. A laugh a minute. thanks for saying what you think. Help is available for you racist dogs.

[Walt]

Sure Frischy,, you sure disappeared when your AGW crap blew up in your face. Yup,, tough to explain away snow in Sept. and still spout "it's getting hotter".
You can run away now, and come back with a sock puppet.
LIBS lie.. That's what they do.
Don't you have some grant money begging to do?
As for "clean air" go bitch to pals in China.

[Jig Wiggly]

Walt 2:40
What's your excitement about snow still in the mountains in September? They used to be permanent snow fields, now they are ephemeral (big word, look it up). Must be the demerol from your last anal exam. Or Burning Man.

[Todd Juvinall]

Hewy Walt looks like another lib (jiggyhead) obsessed with anal exams. And by its comment on snow it appears it is a new resident in the area. We all know about snow here.

[Gregory]

Well, isn't that special. We have Jeffie and Stevie both on the record that, 'nope, I don't use a pen name'.

Steve, the somebody that uses Bobbi Cross has your vocabulary and POV. They're also a liar.

Someone should tell Crabb, CO2 is colorless, odorless, and isn't a pollutant. If it disappeared from the Earth, photosynthesis would cease.
http://www.rlcrabb.com/politics/something-stinks/

[Jig Wiggly]

Todd-
In high school our X country team used to train by running up to the snow patch at Tinker's Knob (in Sept-Oct before the snow flew.) Guess you never got out of your ghetto in west county - where you don't know snow.

Are you close to 75 yet?

[Walt]

Well look who shows up. The jiggered one.
You sure are one stupid somebitch. Can't keep up?
Remember? it's AGW.
Kinda like you and gun laws.. It just don't work.
Speaking of anal exams,, can you walk upright yet?
A long weekend in Tahoe on a brofest can do that to ya'.

[Gregory]

FYI I think Crabb's latest toon
http://www.rlcrabb.com/politics/something-stinks/

is derivative of the South Park rendition of Ben Affleck's parents in the How to Eat With Your Butt episode.

[Don Bessee]

No new cash for you mutha mullahs -

Washington (AFP) - A senior US official on Wednesday ruled out issuing waivers to Iran sanctions to permit a French-proposed credit line, which Tehran says could bring it back to full compliance with the nuclear deal.

"We can't make it any more clear that we are committed to this campaign of maximum pressure and we are not looking to grant any exceptions or waivers," Brian Hook, the State Department coordinator on Iran, told reporters.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-wont-waive-sanctions-allow-french-proposed-iran-160107755.html

;-)

[Jig Wiggly]

Wally-
It's the middle of the day in the middle of the week. Shouldn't you be at work? Digging ditches or cleaning the outhouses at the park?

Here's a hot employment tip: The beautiful people at Lake Wildwood are looking for someone to rake goose shit. Unemployment must suck at your age. I'm only here to help.

[Don Bessee]

Talk about being ignored OUCH!

CNN’s 7-hour climate change town hall fell behind Fox News and MSNBC in the ratings, according to Nielsen Media Research’s findings released Thursday.

CNN’s marathon event– which began Wednesday at 5:00 p.m. ET and ended at midnight – averaged 1.1 million viewers, while Fox News averaged 2.5 million and MSNBC averaged 1.7 million during the same time span.

The network also failed to beat its rival networks during primetime, averaging just 1.4 million viewers. Fox News averaged 3.2 million, and MSNBC averaged 2.2 million during primetime.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/05/cnns-7-hour-climate-town-hall-a-bust-falls-to-fox-news-msnbc/

;-)

[Don Bessee]

Cue the wokesters on twitter in LA LA land -

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/drew-brees-appears-in-ad-for-evangelical-lobbying-group-151951797.html

;-)

[Walt]

Someone should tell the Crabbster that adding synthetic piss
to diesel exhaust was such a grand idea.
Where does Crabby get the idea that Ca. has the right to write the emission standards for the nation? No matter how wild and outrageous they may be.

[Walt]

Frischy goes away, and the jiggered boob shows up.
Cleaning shithouses is your job. And from what I hear, you can't even do that properly.

But tell us about those great gun laws again. They sure didn't help with your buddy's missing hand here in LIBville.

[Jig Wiggly]

Walt- EXTRA EXTRA. The tweeker who shot the guy and zip tied him under a blanket listed his employment as heavy equipment operator. No, really! You might know him. Birds of a feather and all that stuff. Speaking of birds, are you gonna apply for raking goose shit for the Wildwood pubbers?

[Walt]

jiggered is triggered again.(not hard to do)
Keep at it loser. Just BS from you.
He's felon, which makes him a LIB. Which makes him your Brother.

[Todd Juvinall]

Jig Wiggly | 05 September 2019 at 03:13 PM

You never ran cross country bub you were a couch potato back then. I ran Cross Country for NU to stay in shape for basketball. I think I recall you were the jockstrap collector for hand washing. And now you are 78 years old and still can't get picked for a Sadie Hawkins Dance. Shameful.

[Walt]

Poor jiggered boob.. Has to make shit up.
His tweeker pal isn't an operator at all. Just a tweeker.
jigger is so triggered he goes out of his way to make a ass out of himself.
You really need to go back to your Capt. Clueless O pervy one.

[Don Bessee]

Creepy grampa joe is slipping and that was before the blown out eye on live tv -

The poll – taken August 23-26, 2019, among 874 likely Democrat primary voters – showed survey respondents overwhelmingly choosing Warren as their first choice, with 29 percent support. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) came in second place with 22 percent support, and Biden fell to third place with just 19 percent support– a full ten points behind Warren.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/05/national-poll-shows-warren-up-double-digits-on-biden/

;-)

[Jig Wiggly]

Todd-
I was in grade school while you were dribbling and otherwise playing with your balls at NU. Maybe you could pick up that job at Wildwood.

[Walt]

Grade school? LOL!!! Your still there!

[Don Bessee]

I thought this was a no feeding the trolls zone?

;-)

[Todd Juvinall]

Jig Wiggly | 05 September 2019 at 04:18 PM
So did you graduate from fifth grade? Not likely based on how you write. Pretty infantile. You libby couch potatoes never got picked for the dodge ball teams. We fellows in good shape and like me, very handsome got the gals while you were in the pasture with your rubber boots.

[Bill Tozer]

Don @4:10 pm

Good article on Warren.

“Warren's core insight was fascinating: She argued that massive expansion of the labor force had actually created more stressful living and driven down median wages. But her policy recommendations were even more fascinating. She explicitly argued against "more government regulation of the housing market," slamming "complex regulations," since they "might actually worsen the situation by diminishing the incentive to build new houses or improve older ones." Instead, she argued in favor of school choice, since pressure on housing prices came largely from families seeking to escape badly run government school districts: "A well-designed voucher program would fit the bill neatly."

“Her heterodox policy proposals didn't stop there. She refused to "join the chorus calling for taxpayer-funded day care" on its own, calling it a "sacred cow." At the very least, she suggested that "government-subsidized day care would add one more indirect pressure on mothers to join the workforce." She instead sought a more comprehensive educational solution that would include "tax credits for stay-at-home parents."

“She ardently opposed additional taxpayer subsidization of college loans, too, or more taxpayer spending on higher education directly. Instead, she called for a tuition freeze from state schools. She recommended tax incentives for families to save rather than spend. She opposed radical solutions wholesale: "We haven't suggested a complete overhaul of the tax structure, and we haven't demanded that businesses cease and desist from ever closing another plant or firing another worker. Nor have we suggested that the United States should build a quasi-socialist safety net to rival the European model."

So, what happened to Warren?

Power.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/51363/shapiro-how-quest-power-corrupted-elizabeth-warren-ben-shapiro

[Walt]

Here you go LIBs,, brush up on your anti gun lies.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/05/kobach-gun-control-lies-that-democrats-will-tell-in-the-days-ahead/

#1. Unlike other countries, America is plagued by mass shootings.
#2. Background checks stop mass shootings.
#3. Gun-free zones work.
#4. AR-style rifles are preferred by mass shooters.
#5. So-called “smart guns” are the answer.

[Scott O]

"They used to be permanent snow fields, now they are ephemeral..."
Used to be when?
Was that when Tahoe was 20 feet lower for enough time for 30 - 40 inch diameter trees to grow to maturity?
You leftys are hilarious when it comes to AGW.
"Well - I remember in my day".
Sorry - that isn't even close to enough time to mean squat.
Folks walked on dry land across the land bridge from Russia to North America.
Then global warming started.
And the sea level has been rising ever since.
Do try to learn a little earth science, boys.
There is no rock with a line drawn on it by God that shows "THE SEA LEVEL".
It's gone up - it's gone down - it's gone back up.
Climate alarmist Obama just a bought a friggin mansion right where he claims it's going to flood.
What does that tell you?
It's a crock.
Your hero Dr Mann is a fraud. And there goes your hockey stick BS right out the window. What else do you leftys have? Oh - look - a hurricane. First one ever.
Good grief.

[Scott O]

Walt - Forget trying to reason with panicked cattle.
Just get out of the way and wait for them to all run off the cliff. We keep passing one 'common sense' gun control law after another and it never does any good.
Now the bit is in their teeth and it's going to be national. And they are going to find out about something called 'reality'.
Make felons out of 10s of millions of otherwise law-abiding citizens and just see what happens. The Dems have already set the standard of local govts telling the feds to pound sand. They're too stupid to realize that works both ways. Hell - they're just too stupid.
Example number one - Biden.

[Gregory]

For those readers who are allergic to following links to Breitbart, here's an alternative to Walt's 513pm:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-mass-shooters-russia-public-shootings-thousand-oaks-mercy-hospital-chicago-1121-story.html

[Jig Wiggly]

Scott-
In the 70's and 80's yes, 1970s and 1980s. The Mount Tallac cross used to be there all year round. It has been missing the past 8 years. Did you know that California had something called a drought? And now Wally is amazed to see patches of snow after a wet winter. Amazed. Kind of like his amazement at a volcanic eruption from a volcano. World never ceases to amaze Wally.

I hear Todd is going to the draft horse classic to look for Mr. Ed. I think any talking horse will do. He will be amazed Mr. Ed isn't in black and white.

[Bill Tozer]

Can Americans still co-exist?

“I am so old, I can remember when a typical second grader knew the difference between someone you disagree with and a terrorist. But today’s liberals don’t function at that level.”

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/09/can-americans-still-co-exist.php

[Walt]

But Scott.. I SO enjoy slapping them silly with the facts that are staring them in the face. From jigger and his private gun sale background checks he was cock sure would have stopped a nut from getting a gun.(It didn't stop the dude in Nevada city,,, did it?)
Then today with the hyperventilation of GW.. How it's getting hotter.(yet run for cover when there is still snow on the hill in plain sight that shoots their argument to shit)

It's fun to watch them squirm and lose their schit in a panic.
Then lay in wait for them to think the coast is clear, to come out of the bunker, just to remind them why they went to the fallout shelter to begin with.
the jiggered one has just about lost his mind, and Steavy is half way though a cheap jug by now.

[Walt]

No jiggerd boob,, you can't have it both ways. You can't claim AGW with snow from last Winter still on the hills. That dog don't hunt.

[Walt]

OK true believers,, tell us just when climate DIDN'T change.

[Walt]

And just to rub salt in that open wound,,🤣😂
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/05/cnns-7-hour-climate-town-hall-a-bust-falls-to-fox-news-msnbc/#
"CNN’s marathon event– which began Wednesday at 5:00 p.m. ET and ended at midnight – averaged 1.1 million viewers, while Fox News averaged 2.5 million and MSNBC averaged 1.7 million during the same time span. The network also failed to beat its rival networks during primetime, averaging just 1.4 million viewers. Fox News averaged 3.2 million, and MSNBC averaged 2.2 million during primetime."

[Don Bessee]

WINNING!

Compensation for U.S. workers rose by more than previously thought in the first half of the year, the latest sign that workers are benefitting from the tightest labor market in decades.

Hourly compensation rose at a 4.9 percent annualized rate in the second quarter, a 1.9 percent gain after adjusting for inflation, the Labor Department said Thursday. Previously the Labor Department had reported a 1.8 percent real increase.

Compensation for the first quarter was also revised up. Real hourly compensation rose at an annualized 8.4 percent rate in the January through March period

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2019/09/05/labor-costs-rise/

;-)

[Don Bessee]

Well good news from the socialist dem clown car, you will still have comrade deblaisio to kick around!

Bill de Blasio tells Tucker Carlson why he is staying in 2020 Democratic race

https://www.foxnews.com/media/bill-de-blasio-tucker-carlson-2020-democratic-debates

;-)

[Don Bessee]

Comrade Bernie is channeling his inner Margret Sanger eugenics dreams and wants to export it to all the brown, yellow and black peoples of the earth!

https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019/09/05/seb-gorka-bernie-sanders-isnt-satisfied-abortion-killing-40-percent-black-population/

;-)

[Bill Tozer]

Obama kiss and hugs with the Mullahs.

As Mattis writes, “Attorney General Eric Holder said the bombing plot was ‘directed and approved by elements of the Iranian government and, specifically, senior members of the Qods Force.’ The Qods were the Special Operations Force of the Revolutionary Guards, reporting to the top of the Iranian government.”
***
“Had the bomb gone off, those in the restaurant and on the street would have been ripped apart, blood rushing down sewer drains. It would have been the worst attack on us since 9/11. I sensed that only Iran’s impression of America’s impotence could have led them to risk such an act within a couple of miles of the White House,” he writes. “Absent one fundamental mistake — the terrorists had engaged an undercover DEA agent in an attempt to smuggle the bomb — the Iranians would have pulled off this devastating attack. Had that bomb exploded, it would have changed history.”

Within the Obama administration, Mattis argued forcefully that the president needed to inform the public of this act of war and mobilize opinion in favor of strong action against Iran. But his advice went unheeded.

“Washington was not interested in my Zimmermann [telegram] analogy. We treated an act of war as a law enforcement violation, jailing the low-level courier,” Mattis writes.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/09/obama-swept-iran-terror-plot-under-the-rug.php

[Walt]

Some facts on the "red flag" laws.
https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2019/09/04/red-flag-laws-spur-debate-over-due-process

"Most red flag laws are vague on what constitutes a “significant danger,” which gives courts broad discretion to seize firearms, Parris said. And in some states, respondents are not guaranteed representation in court, since these are civil and not criminal matters.

Many defense lawyers say respondents fare much better with legal representation. Of Parris’ seven cases that have gone to a hearing, she has won five — which she said is a “vastly higher” success record than when someone represents themselves."

Maybe just being a LIBERAL should qualify. Maybe when a few of them get a taste of their own ideas, the might change their tune.

[Scott O]

Jiggles - "In the 70's and 80's yes, 1970s and 1980s. The Mount Tallac cross used to be there all year round. It has been missing the past 8 years. Did you know that California had something called a drought?"
Did I know that California had a drought?
I just told you, Jiggly, that California had a massive drought. You can read, can you?
And your times frames are pathetically small. You need to look at the climate going back thousands of years before you can even start to have a idea of what the climate has been doing. California has a drought and flood climate as far back as anyone can tell.
You don't have a bit of science on your side - just a bunch of old man remembers his childhood blather.