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15 November 2019

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Walt

Capt. Kangaroo has his own Commie court these days.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/11/15/it-is-our-time-adam-schiff-republicans-stefanik/#disqus_thread
"House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff once again clashed with Republicans on the committee Friday after he refused to let Republican New York Rep. Elise Stefanik question former Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch.

“The gentlewoman will suspend,” Schiff said after Republican California Rep. Devin Nunes tried to yield time to Stefanik.
“What is the interruption for this time? It is our time,” Stefanik responded.
Schiff claimed that House rules only allowed for Nunes or Counsel Steve Castor to ask questions. "

Walt

And one more.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/11/15/holy-cow-impeachment-hearing-jim-jordan-schiff/
"The second public impeachment hearing into President Donald Trump quickly devolved into a heated back and forth between House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff and several Republican members.

After Ranking Member Devin Nunes completed his opening statement, Republican Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan and Republican New York Rep. Elise Stefanik attempted to interject with points of order, but they were swiftly rebuffed by Schiff. (RELATED: ‘The Last People On Earth With The Credibility’: Devin Nunes Chides Democrats In Opening Statement)

“Will the chairman continue to prohibit witnesses from answering Republican questions as you’ve done in closed hearings and as you did?” Stefanik asked.

“That’s not a proper point of order. Gentlewoman will suspend,” Schiff replied."

Yup,,, the Progressive's idea of a "fair trial".

Bill Tozer

Unfortunately, I woke up this morning to the Dem’s questioning of the former Ambassador to Ukraine describing her butt hurt feeling. I lost patience and turned off the live feed. Got tired of waiting for the R’s to ask RELEVANT questions. Heck, all the e-mails and documents going back to March are there, so why not ask her about that? Tons of evidence. But noooo, it was how the woman was scorned, lol.

I hope that someone read John Solomon this morning.

“The 15 essential questions for Marie Yovanovitch, America’s former ambassador to Ukraine”

https://johnsolomonreports.com/the-15-essential-questions-for-marie-yovanovitch-americas-former-ambassador-to-ukraine/

The show must go on.

Bill Tozer

Beyoncé Set To Perform At Trump Impeachment Halftime Show

https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2019/11/14/beyonce-set-to-perform-at-trump-impeachment-halftime-show/?

https://www.facebook.com/browerreport/photos/a.1456655721301104/2232225853744083/?type=3&theater&ifg=1


Don Bessee

The schiff storm continues to generate nothing! -

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-shift-rhetoric-from-quid-pro-quo-to-bribery-after-impeachment-focus-groups

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ousted-ambassador-grilled-on-alleged-ukraine-election-meddling-as-dnc-figure-defends-role

;-)

Russ

THE DIPLOMAD 2.0: New Whine in an Old Battle.

Let me put it in nice simple terms so that the Swamp Beings will understand: The President sets and conducts foreign policy, not State, not the NSC, not the DOD, not any other alphabet agency. He does not have to go through State or NSC to conduct said policy; he does not have to consult with Kent or Taylor or anybody else on Ukraine or any other aspect of foreign policy.


https://www.thediplomad.com/2019/11/impeachment-hearings-new-whine-in-old.html

Don Bessee

Talk about nothing burgers -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/15/former-u-s-ambassador-to-ukraine-marie-yovanovitch-admits-having-no-knowledge-of-trump-criminal-activity/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/15/rep-turner-gets-yovanovitch-to-admit-giuliani-meeting-with-u-s-ukrainian-officials-isnt-unusual/

;-)

Don Bessee

Schiff for brains is the gift that keeps on giving!


https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-campaign-raises-millions-during-impeachment-hearings-212610351.html

;-)

Walt

Not good for Emery's point of view.
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/11/15/yovanovitch-admits-burisma-probe-was-open-when-biden-pressured-ukraine-to-fire-prosecutor/
"“It wasn’t an active case, but it also was not fully closed,” the former ambassador testified, before elaborating that at the time the Ukrainian government was opting to keep a “hook” into Burisma and its founder, Mykola Zlochevsky.

Yovanovitch’s admission that Shokin was looking for a “hook” with which to prosecute Burisma and Zlocvesky undermines a central argument Joe Biden has made to defend his conduct. Since the story became central to the impeachment inquiry, the former vice president and his allies have tried to argue that Shokin’s investigation into Burisma was dormant at the time of his firing and therefore his ouster actually improved the chances that the company would face stricter scrutiny."

No need to answer Emery,, The info is WAY above your comprehension skills.

Don Bessee

A good summary -

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tom-del-beccaro-7-impeachment-hearing-takeaways-plus-winners-and-losers

;-)

Bill Tozer

Brother Walt @ 6:23 pm

Watch the second two minute video. You go girl!

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/11/yovanovitch-highlights.php

That is why cross examination is the engine to get at the truth. It’s the American way.

Walt

But remember Bill,, Emery has no problem with that corruption.
Biden's boy was more pure than Nevada City snow.

Walt

This sums up the whole Schitt show today.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/marie-yovanovitch-president-trump-impeachment-hearing
"Stewart: "I would now feel compelled to ask you, Madam Ambassador, as you sit here before us, very simply and directly, do you have any information regarding the president of the United States accepting any bribes?"

Yovanovitch: "No."

Stewart: "Do you have any information regarding any criminal activity that the president of the United States has been involved with at all?"

Yovanovitch: "No."

Bill Tozer

“Here’s a witness Schiff doesn’t dare call in impeachment hearings”

“So, Adam Schiff, when can we expect this man to take the stand?

Badly undermining Democrats’ impeachment narrative, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Vadym Prystaiko told the press in Kiev on Thursday, “I have never seen a direct relationship between investigations and security assistance.”

That is, between the investigations President Trump wanted into 1) Ukrainian interference in the 2016 campaign and 2) Joe and Hunter Biden and the Ukrainian firm Burisma, on the one hand, and US aid that Trump put on hold this summer, on the other.”

https://nypost.com/2019/11/15/heres-a-witness-schiff-doesnt-dare-call-in-impeachment-hearings/

We can arrange him to be a witness for the Dems. We know the place, just slot the time.

Walt

LOL!!! Queen Nan giving Trump "orders"?
Trump may take a nice long wizz in her Ensure.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-warns-trump-not-to-intimidate-whistleblower-youre-in-my-wheelhouse
"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., gave strict orders to President Trump not to “intimidate” the whistleblower who sparked the House impeachment inquiry into the president – telling Trump that he was in her “wheelhouse” if he attempted to go after the anonymous source."

OH YAAAA..... We have seen how this plays out.
"Pelosi added that if Trump wanted to present his case, he should come before House lawmakers.

"The president could come right before the committee and talk, speak all the truth that he wants if he wants. He has every opportunity to present his case."

George Rebane

Walt 1111am - The hubris of this woman and her minions is mind boggling.

Bill Tozer

Queen Nan blows right by hearings and straight to conviction. Guess they have settled on a bribery. If it was me advising the Unhinged, I would say they had a better chance with abuse of power, but what do I know?

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/nov/15/nancy-pelosi-goes-slam-dunk-and-crashes-floor/

Walt

See? A crime is whatever the QUEEN of the DEMNED says one is.
Good luck getting that to fly in the Senate.

Walt

Sure thing!! We see how Repubs got their witnesses in to speak.
Trump will be afforded the same. "Sit down and shut up!"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nancy-pelosi-face-the-nation-trump-has-every-opportunity-to-present-his-case-in-impeachment-inquiry/
In Capt. Kangaroo's court? LOL!

Bill Tozer

“Blame the Impeachment Flop on Botox”

“So when a leftist who wants to believe that Stefanik is a true bitch because that leftist is pissed that she exposed a key lie in Yovanovich’s testimony, that person need only read O’Malley’s tweet and briefly glance at the image to be convinced. His words prime the reader’s brain to experience the image as both real and reinforcing what the leftist already believes, or at least wants to believe.

Embodied cognition and mirror neurons explain why true believers eagerly embrace deceptions. But such believers aren’t the whole audience for these fakes, or for the extended, farcical, corrosive, and poisonous fakery that is playing out in the House right now. Polls and my own discussions with many independent voters suggest that the Democrat impeachment strategy is backfiring badly. President Trump is rebounding in the polls, while the Schiff strategy drones on, guided only by focus groups in key states as the basis for the charges to be laid at the president’s door.

I blame it on Botox.

Now, I don’t know if Adam Schiff has had the procedure. But Nancy Pelosi clearly has, and it is ubiquitous in certain coastal circles. So too are deep facelifts. Interestingly, these procedures partially freeze facial muscles in pursuit of an artificial image of youth.”

https://amgreatness.com/2019/11/17/blame-the-impeachment-flop-on-the-botox/

Or, as George Conaway said, Stepanakert is a lying piece of trash. Hmm. All the Congresswoman did was praise Yovanovitch for her years of service and exposed that the Obama Administration was so deeply concerned about Hunter Biden that they prepped
Yovanovich for her Senate confirmation hearings for Ambassador to Ukraine. “Deflect all questions to Biden’s office”, lol.

“On Thursday, during questions for Yovanovitch, Stefanik showed that the Biden-Burisma scandal had Obama’s people wondering whether Hunter might be a problem. Thus did they prep Yovanovitch to answer questions about the drug-addict’s good fortunes in Ukraine.

“The first time you personally became aware of Burisma was actually when you were being prepared by the Obama State Department for your Senate confirmation hearings,” Stefanik said. “And this was in the form of practice questions and answers. This was your deposition. This was in the form of practice questions and answers. And you testified that in this particular practice Q&A with the Obama State Department, it wasn’t just generally about Burisma and corruption. It was specifically about Hunter Biden and Burisma. Is that correct?”

“Yes it is,” Yovanovitch said.

Continued the congresswoman:

And the exact quote from your testimony, Ambassador, is, ‘The way the question was phrased in this model Q&A was, what can you tell us about Hunter Biden, you know, being named to the board of Burisma?’ So, for the millions of Americans watching, President Obama’s own State Department was so concerned about potential conflicts of interest from Hunter Biden’s role at Burisma that they raised it themselves while prepping this wonderful Ambassador nominee before her confirmation. And yet our Democratic colleagues and the chairman at this committee cried foul when we dare ask that same question that the Obama State Department was so concerned about. But we will continue asking it.“
——————
“Republican New York Rep. Elise Stefanik fired back at George Conway on Saturday, calling him a misogynist and criticizing him for spreading a doctored image of her.

Conway, the husband of White House aide Kellyanne Conway, called Stefanik “lying trash” and urged voters to support her Democratic challenger. Conway, a longtime Republican lawyer, became a sharp critic of President Donald Trump and congressional Republicans.

Stefanik ripped Conway in a tweet, writing: “the one thing I’ve NEVER been called in my life is TRASH,” adding: “You need serious help. My opponent Taxin’ Tedra [Cobb] can have your sick mysogynist [sic] support.”

Blame it on Botox, George Conaway.

Robert Cross

food for thought -- trumpler's tweets are a matter of public record and admissible in court as evidence. Considering the now 13,000 plus lies trumpler has passed on, many via twitter, that should scare the crap out of all the 'always trumpler' crowd.

Robert Cross

Lie of the day: trumpler says he will 'strongly consider' testifying. LOL! He won't.. he would make a bigger fool of himself than he already has and more than likely implicate himself in a multitude of high crimes and misdemeanors, with lying to congress at the top of the list.

 fish

Posted by: Roberta Cross | 18 November 2019 at 09:50 AM

…..trumpler's tweets are a matter of public record and admissible in court as evidence. Considering the now 13,000 plus lies trumpler has passed on, many via twitter, that should scare the crap out of all the 'always trumpler' crowd.


Publicly delivered and archived messages that the press and neurotic menopausal women obsess over.


Yes….I'm sure there will be real revelations forthcoming.


#motherslittlehelper


Robert Cross

Publicly delivered and archived messages that fools ignore

scenes

"...and neurotic menopausal women obsess over."

It does make you wonder about the value of the 19th Amendment. It's early days yet whether it's the kind of thing that dooms us all.

Bill Tozer

Shame on Americans for not tuning into the Spectacular Spectacle made just for them. Shame, shame, shame.

“Americans Ignore Democrats’ Demands To Watch Their Impeachment Farce”

Apparently 'I’m Sorry, Is Impeachment Not Entertaining Enough for You?' is the only messaging Democrats have left after actual evidence failed to surface for their latest set of wild anti-Trump claims

“Does anyone really believe the conclusion of Democrats’ impeachment “inquiry” isn’t predetermined? President Trump was guilty the moment he won the 2016 election — guilty of denying Democrats the massive spoils of federal power. Every moment since has just been searching for a pretext to remove him from office without an actual election. First Spygate, now the “impeachment inquiry.”

So it’s no surprise that just 13 million viewers tuned in for the first day of televised impeachment hearings last Wednesday, many fewer than for the Brett Kavanaugh and Christine Blasey Ford hearings last fall (20 million viewers) and for James Comey’s Russiagate testimony (19.5 million), according to early Nielsen ratings reported by Axios.”.........

“On Friday, New York Times opinion writer Jennifer Weiner unleashed her inner schoolmarm. Apparently “I’m Sorry, Is Impeachment Not Entertaining Enough for You?” is the only messaging Democrats have left after actual evidence failed to surface for their latest set of wild anti-Trump claims.

Please excuse me while I recover from laughing at her claim that “It seems to some members of the media, impeachment is no longer about right and wrong, legal versus illegal. It’s about watchable versus unwatchable, enthralling and fun versus dusty and dry.” For this to be remotely plausible would require the American political media to give a thimble for facts versus innuendo.

Remember the “pee dossier”? What about the serial gang rapist who actually wasn’t nominated to the U.S. Supreme Court? Yeah, live those down, maybe even apologize for them, and then tell me about how your team cares about truth and justice.

“Weiner’s solution to a chorus of “boring” after the hearings is, I kid you not: “The next time we see a partisan or a politician or, worse, a reporter complain that the hearings are boring, we push back. We point out that our political process is one thing and professional wrestling is another, and shame on anyone who faults the first for not resembling the second.”

So the people who wear vagina hats on their heads and brandish ridiculous red robes to demand that taxpayers pay to kill children are telling us that politics needs to look less trivial.“

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/18/americans-ignore-democrats-demands-to-watch-their-impeachment-farce/

Relax Demented Lefties, relax. You will impeach Trump. Anything else you would like to add? See ya in the Senate.


Robert Cross

That's right folks, ignore the hearings so you don't know the truth and can still believe trumpler's lies and Faux News spin while continue to whine and repeat BS tweets about witch hunts and hoaxes. Aren't you tired of hearing the same old excuses for all trumpler's problems. No the Easter bunny isn't real, sorry.

Bill Tozer

I heard it from the CA raisins who heard it through the grapevine.

https://www.facebook.com/Maverick010101/videos/10219696641545096/UzpfSTEwMDAwMDc0NjY2NzExNDo4MDIxNzUwNTY5MDQyNzM/

Carlos Castaneda

,,,Did the President lie under oath??? Probably...he lies all the time

"The request followed closely on the heels of Friday’s conviction of longtime Trump friend Roger Stone. Testimony and evidence at his trial appeared to cast doubt on written replies from Trump to Mueller about the president’s knowledge about attempts by his 2016 campaign to learn more about the release of hacked Democratic emails by the anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks. “Did the president lie? Was the president not truthful in his responses to the Mueller investigation,” General Counsel Douglas N. Letter said. “The House is trying to determine whether the current president should remain in office. This is unbelievably serious and it’s happening right now, very fast"...Washington Post

,,,Republicans for Trump are mouthing about how Impeachment rarely happens and how it should only be used for the most serious offenses...like lying about a Blow Job

Bill Tozer

Carlos certainly has an oral fixation this morning. Part of the Frisco values moving up here, I reckon.

This is unbelievably serious and it’s happening right now, very fast"...Washington Post

Toad Juvinile

So Bill, is sticking your head in the sand part of Nevada County values?

scenes

"That's right folks (tell the truth now)
ignore the hearings so you don't know the truth
still believe trumpler's lies (uh huh)
Faux News spin
continue to whine
repeat BS tweets
witch hunts and hoaxes.

Got me them Trumpler Lyin' Witchhunt Blues"

I have to give it an 8, because you can dance to it.

fish

Posted by: Roberta Cross | 18 November 2019 at 10:38 AM

Publicly delivered and archived messages that fools ignore……..



"………wahhhhh….sniffle…..snort…….the only reason you guys don't listen to me is cuz I'm a girl"!


……that's pretty much it Bertie!

Todd Juvinall

Robert Cross | 18 November 2019 at 11:57 AM
Are you aware that when FOX televises the hearings on the Impeachment Inquiry that it is the same one CNN shows? You really are a moron BertieC.

Robvert Cross

Toad, I am not talking about the live coverage but Carlson, Hannity, and the other mouthpieces who interpret the news for people too lazy or stupid to watch it and decide for themselves.

Todd Juvinall

Robvert Cross | 18 November 2019 at 01:47 PM
No you are not BertieC. We know what you mean. Stop lying you punkass.

Todd Juvinall

Robvert Cross | 18 November 2019 at 01:47 PM

The reason I and the rest don't believe you is we watched the hearings and then listened to the analisys and it was correct you punkass.

George Rebane

I'm surprised that the lefties still confuse FN's Carlson and Hannity with the network's news programs. Carlson and Hannity are commentators and do a very ideologically tinted analysis of current events and issues. No one familiar with their programs would confuse them for being news broadcasters. But I do understand that on lamestream outlets like MSNBC and CNN, ideological commentary is marbled right into the news cast to fool the viewers into thinking they're getting the straight stuff. Perhaps that's what's confusing our progressives, they think all news outlets practice the same kind of 'journalism'.

scenes

I'm not sure why anyone watches TV news or commentary. The information density is too low and too much meaning is attached to the appearance and presentation of the talking heads, even discounting bias by their writers.

The Rush Limbaughs and Amy Goodmans (Goodmen?) of the world are best ignored.

Walt

You just not going to get those tax returns. That fishing expedition is stuck at the dock.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/18/supreme-court-temporarily-halts-order-to-turn-over-trumps-tax-returns-to-congress/

Archie Bunker

“Democrats are now trying to impeach the president for ‘bribery.’ That is ridiculous. Do you want to know what real bribery is? Ukrainian companies paying Hunter Biden $83,000 a month to protect their own corruption. Where is the investigation into that?” —Charlie Kirk

Walt

The Schitt show keeps getting better and better.
The "new" star witness was swilling wine at the time?
https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/11/18/democrats-new-star-witness-david-holmes-was-drinking-wine-didnt-take-notes/

Each new witness is a bigger joke than the last.

Carlos Castaneda

,,,Yo Archie,,,how did Hunter Biden protect Democratic party corruption???

Yes Archie,,,that Charlie Kirk sounds like an idiot!!!

Here is a good summary for the roundtable to study,,,

https://www.justsecurity.org/66271/timeline-trump-giuliani-bidens-and-ukrainegate/

Robert Cross

"punkass" ??? getting a little testy are we Toad? I totally understand.. I would be too if my idol turned out to be a goombah crook like trumpler has. Everyday the noose tightens a little more around the mobster's neck. What a disappointment he must be to you.

Archie Bunker


“,,,Yo Archie,,,how did Hunter Biden protect Democratic party corruption???”

It would behoove you to learn to read. Granted that is asking too much with what you have to work with. Making steel from wax? The quote states Hunter the doper was hired by Ukrainian companies to protect their own corruption. That is exactly how it went down. No other reason to hire a doper who got kicked out of the service for drug abuse.

“Ukrainian companies paying Hunter Biden $83,000 a month to protect their own corruption. Where is the investigation into that?”

Now, run off to your mother’s little helper.

fish

Posted by: Roberta Cross | 19 November 2019 at 09:25 AM


What a disappointment he must be to you.


He's doing great Beav…….


#feminineprotection

Carlos Castaneda

,,,Yo Archie,,,use your noggin,,,just because you read a quote somewhere does not mean it it true. How does Charlie Kirk have the inside scoop???

,,,Fake news

Carlos Castaneda

Archie,,,you need to find an actual crime to investigate Hunter Biden for,,,just because you are jealous that he makes so much money does not make him a criminal...

Bill Tozer

ROFLMAO
“In testimony before the House Intelligence Committee on Tuesday, both Jennifer Williams, an adviser to Vice President Mike Pence, and Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman stated that the transcript of the July 25 phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Zolodymyr Zelensky was substantively accurate.

In direct response to a question as to whether the transcript was complete and accurate, neither suggested that it was not, except for minor details they found in their notes of the call.

This testimony blows up a month-long lie pushed by Democrats and their media allies that the transcript was partial, or redacted, suggesting that the White House was potentially hiding important details. For weeks the baseless claim that the transcript was so doctored that we don’t really know what happened on the call has been floated all over mainstream media coverage.”

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/19/the-impeachment-partial-transcript-lie-just-got-blown-out-of-the-water/

Now who was that dummy that ran over here saying the White House transcript of the call was doctored and edited and partial and the real transcript will be found in Al Capone’s vault. They just need to find the vault. Trump is hiding the truth!!! Got him now!
Who was the ignorant sock puppet that fell for that? Hmmm Was it AV Woman or some other idiot who reads the Wa Compost, Salon, NYT, and the Huffington Farting Post. Maybe it was Piggly Wiggley. Anyway, I love it when the sock puppets talk to each other to get affirmation and then talk to the bots for more confirmation of evidence. They even answer themselves to get a second opinion, lol.

https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/unnamed.png

https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/unnamed-1.png

No matter anyway. They are moving on to Trump lied to Mueller!! No time to waste.Thanksgiving is coming, gobble gobble. Keep throwing that spaghetti against the wall hoping something will stick. Don’t matter to me. They will have to clean up their own mess.

L

Keach @ 7:46 Now that we're up to speed on matters Ukraine, maybe you can tell us how a middle aged nobody, without prior service or training, becomes a U.S. Naval officer such that he can be discharged for cocaine use? And what kind of discharge did he receive- it should have been "less than honorable" if I recall the rules correctly. Was it? Check your sources and get back with a link, thanks.

Carlos Castaneda

,,,Off the general topics but of general interest,,,

Time to raise taxes???

"The Laffer Curve’s advocates remind their audiences that the fiscal position is a function of both revenues and expenses; greater revenues are moot if spending also increases. The U.S. deficit’s climb to just shy of $1 trillion in 2019, during an interval of peace and economic growth, seems out of place. In the event of a downturn, the government will have less fiscal space for stimulative reforms. From our current position on the Laffer Curve, increasing taxes may be a necessary and effective way of keeping debt and deficits from spiraling out of control."

Carlos Castaneda

,,,Don't blow a gasket Twinkle Toes,,,

The only thing anyone ever said is that the transcript summary was created by the White House and we had or still have to wait for the """Official""" transcript to be released to be sure of what was in it...

I am so glad that you can rest easy now Toes...

Carlos Castaneda

,,,LLL,,, I will show you my links if you show me yours,,,

Hunter Biden vs. George W Bush,,,who used the most political connections and who snorted the most coke while in the military???

How did Ivanka qualify for a position in the White House? - link please

How did Sondland qualify for Ambassadorship to the EU - hint, it rhymes with honey...

L

Keach, you eff'n moron @ 11:30- no link needed for Hunter and blow, it's been a given since the story first broke. Dubya and blow- sez who?

Ivanka qualified by having her father appoint her an advisor, which every president has a right to do and does if he so chooses.

What has 'Soondland" have to do with Hunter Biden's bogus commission in the Navy?

Answer the question instead of spreading manure about.

Bill Tozer

While not on the topic of separation of power per say, the Federalist system only works when all three branches are kept in check. When the courts (or Congress) step in and overreach, the entire balance of powers is thrown out of wack.

“The Anti‐​Federalists Predicted Today’s Political Morass, and Can Help Us Get Out”

“The Anti-Federalists were proved correct. When combined with other clauses, in particular the Commerce Clause, the Necessary and Proper Clause has been used precisely as they predicted. Applying the Necessary and Proper Clause to the Commerce Clause has permitted Congress to reach nearly every non-commercial activity imaginable, turning the Commerce Clause into more of a general powers clause.

Whether or not that is a good thing, it is certainly different than what the Framers contemplated, which was a government of limited and enumerated powers that left most questions of local governance—such as education and health care—to the states.”

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/anti-federalists-predicted-todays-political-morass-can-help-us-get-out

More on topic, what does the 6th Amendment have to do with impeachment? Absolutely nothing.

Don Bessee

Uh huh -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/19/alexander-vindman-admits-making-up-parts-of-trump-call-summary/

;-)

Carlos Castaneda

,,,ELLE,,,tell us what business is it of anyone's who a foreign corporation, or even a domestic corporation, hires or appoints to a Board of Directors position???

All the EverTrumpers can do is try to change the subject...

Poor Devin Nunes,,,he cannot wait to cross examine Alexandra Chalupa,,,only thing is she says it is just another smear campaign conducted by EverTrumpers...

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/12/alexandra-chalupa-testify-impeachment-069817

Castaneda

,,,ELLE is fixated on Hunter Biden's nasal issues,,,

We all know how political power is wielded to get special treatment for family members of the political movers and shakers...

If Hunter Biden is a F' up it has no bearing on anything that I am aware of...

Maybe you should wonder why Bat Boy Giuliani was over in Ukraine trying to gin up drama on the Bidens...

L

Keach, back to kindergarten for you. No one gives a damn if Biden's spawn snorts coke or anything else- the question was how did he come by a Navy commission, given that his cocaine abuse was already a matter of public record? Or did you miss the report about his returned rental car? Pay attention, it's not about the kid who took what was offered but his dad who bent rules to get it.

Bill Tozer

Part 1: I felt a bit of amusement when they started attacking the reporter John Solomon. First VDH, now Solomon. You know when you are over the target........

“The New York Times has no compunction against going after fellow journalists who fail to sufficiently parrot Democratic-friendly stories. Times reporters Jeremy Peters and Kenneth Vogel investigated the work of fellow journalist John Solomon, “The Man Trump Trusts for News on Ukraine,” which posted on Tuesday.

The Biden campaign has fingered the journalist as an enemy for reporting on his son Hunter’s employment by Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian gas company. The Times is doing its part in defending Biden by attacking Solomon's reporting:

In weeks of closed-door testimony, American officials who worked in Ukraine kept circling back to the work of one journalist, John Solomon, whose articles they said appeared to have considerable currency with President Trump’s inner circle.

....One witness testified to Congress that an article of his was full of “non-truths and non sequiturs.” Another witness said that he could not recall a single thing that was correct in one of Mr. Solomon’s stories, then added sarcastically, “His grammar might have been right.”

Ouch....not.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/clay-waters/2019/11/15/hypocrites-ny-times-attacks-journalist-who-dared-investigate-biden

Bill Tozer

Part 2: Solomon’s response:

https://johnsolomonreports.com/impeachment-surprise-how-adam-schiff-validated-my-reporting-on-ukraine/

“In fact, his witnesses have done more than anyone to affirm the accuracy of my columns and to debunk the false narrative by a dishonest media and their friends inside the federal bureaucracy that my reporting was somehow false conspiracy theories.

The half dozen seminal columns I published for The Hill on Ukraine were already supported by overwhelming documentation (all embedded in the story) and on-the-record interviews captured on video. They made three salient and simple points:

Hunter Biden’s hiring by the Ukrainian gas firm Burisma Holdings, while it was under a corruption investigation, posed the appearance of a conflict of interest for his father. That’s because Vice President Joe Biden oversaw US-Ukraine policy and forced the firing of the Ukrainian prosecutor overseeing the case.
Ukraine officials had an uneasy relationship with our embassy in Kiev because State Department officials exerted pressure on Ukraine prosecutors to drop certain cases against activists, including one group partly funded by George Soros.
There were efforts around Ukraine in 2016 to influence the US election, that included a request from a DNC contractor for dirt on Manafort, an OpEd from Ukraine’s US ambassador slamming Trump and the release of law enforcement evidence by Ukrainian officials that a Ukraine court concluded was an improper interference in the US election.
All three of these points have since been validated by the sworn testimony of Schiff’s witnesses this month, starting with the Bidens.

Deputy Assistant Secretary of State George Kent testified he believed the Burisma-Bidens dynamic created the appearance of a conflict of interest, and that State officials viewed Burisma as having a corrupt relationship.

Kent testified State’s sentiments were so strong that he personally intervened in 2016 to stop a joint project between one of his department’s agencies and Burisma. When asked why, he answered: “Burisma had a poor reputation in the business, and I didn’t think it was appropriate for the U.S. Government to be co-sponsoring something with a company that had a bad reputation.”

State officials also testified they tried to raise the issue of an apparent conflict of interest with Biden’s office back in 2015, but were rebuffed.

Former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch was asked last week if she shared Kent’s assessment about Joe Biden and Burisma. She answered clearly: “I think that it could raise the appearance of a conflict of interest.”

Federal officials are required to avoid even the appearance of a conflict, something State officials saw with Joe Biden. This obligation doesn’t rely on whether Biden forced the firing of the Ukraine prosecutor for good or bad reasons. The appearance issue existed even before Biden forced the firing,

For weeks, media have claimed my Biden column was a debunked “conspiracy theory” and no one saw anything wrong. Now we know the very people working on Ukraine policy below Joe Biden in the State Department saw the appearance of a conflict, long before I reported it. And they were so concerned about Burisma’s corruption reputation that they took official actions to distance the U.S. from the firm that hired Hunter Biden.

The second point I made in my columns was there was significant evidence that some officials tied to Ukraine tried or did influence the 2016 election. That evidence included:....
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“But then Schiff’s witnesses, particularly Kent, added to the narrative. They directly acknowledged at least four of the names Lutsenko gave me in the March interview were the subject of a pressure campaign by the U.S. embassy in Kiev. They included:

a nonprofit Ukrainian group partly funded by George Soros and the US embassy called the AntiCorruption Action Centre.
a Ukraine parliamentary member named Sergey Leschenko who helped release the Manafort documents
a senior law enforcement official named Artem Sytnyk, who also helped release the Manafort documents
a journalist named Vitali Shabunin, who helped found the above-mentioned nonprofit.
Kent acknowledged he signed an April 2016 letter asking Ukrainian prosecutors to stand down an investigation against the anti-corruption group, and his explanations about the pressure the embassy applied on the Shabunin and Sytnyk probes are worth reading.

“As a matter of conversation that U.S officials had with Ukrainian officials in sharing our concern about the direction of governance and the approach, harassment of civil society activists, including Mr. Shabunin, was one of the issues we raised,” Kent testified.

As for Sytnyk, the head of the NABU anticorruption police, Kent stated: “We warned both Lutsenko and others that efforts to destroy NABU as an organization, including opening up investigations of Sytnyk, threatened to unravel a key component of our anti-corruption cooperation.”

Yovanovitch for her part stood by her denial of the do-not-prosecute list. But even she admitted she was, in her own words, “pushing” the Ukraine prosecutors. “I advocated the U.S. position that the rule of law should prevail and Ukrainian law enforcement, prosecutors and judges should stop wielding their power selectively as a political weapon against their adversaries, and start dealing with all consistently and according to the law.”

In another words, she pushed back on certain investigations, just like Kent had testified.

In the end, it doesn’t really matter whether what transpired was a formal list like Lutsenko claimed or a pressure campaign on specific cases like Kent testified. The issue of public interest is that the situation was dysfunctional: Ukraine prosecutors felt bullied by the embassy, and US officials were unhappy with cases against certain figures.

So the next time you hear my stories were debunked, faulty or wrong (without anyone citing specific facts that were wrong), keep this in mind: Adam Schiff’s witnesses corroborated what I reported.

And that makes the attacks on my columns misleading, unethical and undemocratic. Reporters should be allowed to raise issues of public importance like conflict appearances, election interference and dysfunctional foreign relations without being taken to the woodshed of censorship and false shame.

And public officials like Biden, and Yovanovitch, shouldn’t cry victimization just because a journalist raised a legitimate debate over policy issues.“

Walt

A real good indicator that the LIBS have nothing on Trump in this dog and pony show, is the lack of TROLL droppings here.

That wasn't a fart we heard,, some asshole was just talking shit behind Swallow's back.

Don Bessee

The heart of the matter -

Republicans sounded a celebratory note as House Democrats' impeachment inquiry wrapped up another day of public hearings Tuesday evening, saying the day's witnesses had served only to highlight fundamental problems in the case against President Trump.

“Did anyone ever ask you to bribe or extort anyone at any time during your time in the White House?" House Intelligence Committee Ranking Member Devin Nunes, R-Calif., asked at one point in Tuesday's hearing.

Former National Security Council (NSC) aide Tim Morrison: "No."

U.S. Special Representative for Ukraine Kurt Volker: “No."

Later, Rep. Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y., hit the same notes in asking the witnesses about Trump's fateful July 25 call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky: "Mr. Morrison, you were on that call, and there was no quid pro quo, correct? No bribery? No extortion?"

"Correct," Morrison replied in response to each question.

"And, Ambassador Volker, I presume you got a readout of the call. ... Was there any reference to withholding aid? Any reference to bribery? Any reference to quid pro quo? Any reference to extortion?"

"No, there was not," Volker replied, again and again.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ex-ukraine-envoy-nsc-official-testify-in-second-round-of-impeachment-testimony

;-)

scenes

vindman:

https://tennesseestar.com/2019/11/05/retired-army-officer-remembers-lt-col-vindman-as-partisan-democrat-who-ridiculed-america/

Castaneda

,,,ELLIE,,,as I said before,,, We all know how political power is wielded to get special treatment for family members of the political movers and shakers...

Bill Tozer

Vindman has my radar ears going up.

First, Vindman said the transcript of the phone call was accurate, just to get that out of the way.

Vindman was born in the former USSR as was his neighborhood pal . One went on to be the Defense Minister of Ukraine, the other went on to become Lt. Col Vindman. Vindman was offered the job to be the Ukrainian Defense Minister, not once but three times. Vindman did report this to his superiors. That is one red flag. He should have never been in the White House or around Intelligence. The offers. makes him a target for potential influence by foreign powers, allies or not. Vindman can laugh it off as silly, but he reported it to his superiors.

While Vindman likes to play Shiff’s soldier boytoy in his dress uniform, the position as a NSA staffer is not a DOD position. The NSA is usually staffed by mostly civilians. He obviously is the one who told the whistleblower, a whistleblower who is a Brennan plant and worked for Joe Biden and took trips to Kiev with Creepy Joe.

In the old USSR, the KBG had their plants (agents) in every department of the government, on every naval vessel, etc, to see and report what is going on. Just saying.

More will be revealed, but Scenes has caught the right scent, per usual.

https://www.oann.com/whistleblower-attended-white-house-meetings-coordinated-with-vindman/

Schiff, Vindman, whistleblower. The three main ones on the coordinated plot so far, and of course the ever present CIA. Funny how other NSA staffers where hired on as staff for the Dem Intelligence Committee and on staff as soon as the whistleblower approached the Anti-Trump lawyers. Seems to me the whistleblower circumvented the chain of command, then later went to the IG. Leaking classified material is a federal offense.

Don Bessee

What a great mix, the UN and fakenews -

Several media organizations were forced to make retractions Tuesday after falsely attributing a staggering Obama-era migrant child-detention statistic to President Trump.

On Monday, Manfred Nowak, an expert from the U.N. Global Study on Children Deprived of Liberty, claimed that 100,000 migrant children were detained by the Trump administration and indicated that it was the "world's highest rate" of detained children. The following day, however, he acknowledged that the cited number actually was from 2015 -- under President Obama.

A separate report last week from The Associated Press and the PBS series "Frontline" found 69,550 migrant children have been held in U.S. government custody in the last year.

Nowak's admission prompted several media outlets to withdraw their previously reported stories.

"A Nov. 18 story headlined 'U.S. has world’s highest rate of children in detention -U.N. study' is withdrawn. The United Nations issued a statement on Nov. 19 saying the number was not current but was for the year 2015. No replacement story will be issued," Reuters stated.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/obama-era-child-detention-statistics-trump-retractions

;-)

Bill Tozer

Lest we forget. After the 2008 elections, Obama replaced EVERY politically appointed US Ambassador. Guess we missed the part about all those Ambassadors butt hurt feelings and a threat to our national security.

L

Keach @ 8:37 So Plugs leaned on the Navy Dept. to get his spawn named a military officer and that's OK. Got it.

Castaneda

,,,yes L,,,and Trumpski's daddy gave him millions and the bags of money were so heavy that Trumpski got bone spurs and could not serve...

robert Cross

Sondland just outed trumpler. Biden investigation was at trumpler's direction.

Can you say abuse of power yet boys or what kind of bull crap excuse are the pubbers going come up with this time?
Repeat after--goombah goombah goombah. trumpler is a mobster

fish

Posted by: roberta Cross | 20 November 2019 at 07:35 AM


#americaswhinyexwife

Todd Juvinall

BoobieC, no he did not. He testified Trump said NO QUID PEO QUO. You are a liar and dirbag.

Robert Cross

Toad --try again moron.. https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/impeachment-hearing-11-20-19/index.html

Todd Juvinall

BoobieC the moron, I listened to it live you idiot. You have nothing and it looks like Pelosi will pull the plug.

Bill Tozer

Well, it may be a good day afterall. After the headlines screaming “Bombshell” went out and the journalists got the headlines they sought, The EU Ambassador said this. Too bad the journalists did not stick around for cross examination, aka, the engine to get to the truth.

GORDON SONDLAND TESTIFIES THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP TOLD HIM ‘NO QUID PRO QUO’

https://news.grabien.com/story-gordon-sondland-testifies-president-trump-told-him-no-quid-p

Hopefully we can all agree that the work Ukraine is synonymous with corruption.

Robert Cross

toad -- apparently you are deaf, blind, and dumb -- see it for yourself. Sondland said there was a quid pro quo in no uncertain terms. The plug that will be pulled is trumpler's presidency
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/11/20/gordon-sondland-quid-pro-quo-opening-statement-orig-me.cnn

Bill Tozer

Ah, I see a problem here. Bobbie Sue is relying on the opening statement. Now, let’s see what was omitted from the opening statement, shall we? My, lookie here at was omitted in the opening statement. Best to hear more from Gordon.

Roll tape.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6106739978001/#sp=show-clips

Todd Juvinall

Robert Cross | 20 November 2019 at 11:40 AM
BoobieC the moron. You are deaf and dumb and blind. Tozer has now schooled you on what has happened Sondland left out of his opening statement that Trump said NO QUID PRO QUO. When Jordan asked why he left that out he said he ran out of room in his 23 page statement. So please, stop being a dick, listen to the whole thing and stop making us laugh at you you moeon.

Todd Juvinall

Reports that Congressman Blumenauer of Oregon started a boycott of Sondland's wifes business. The man should be tossed out of Congress for intimidation of a witness.

Robert Cross

You dullards seem to be missing the main point -- trumpler is chronic liar. Of course trumpler said NO QUID PRO QUO. What else is he going to say? He has also lied 13,000 other times yet you still believe him. What Sondland and several other reliable people said was the opposite. Duh! what is 'moeon' anyway?

Bill Tozer

No one on this planet told you that aid was tied to investigations....

"As the exchange was taking place, the chyron on CNN stated: “SONDLAND: ‘YES’ THERE WAS QUID PRO QUO IN UKRAINE SCANDAL.”

“No one on this planet told you that President Trump was tying aid to investigations, yes or no?”

“Yes,” Sondland responded


http://dlvr.it/RJjrB2

scenes

re: BillT@1:03PM

bwahahaha, that's a beautiful story.

You know darned well they don't feel a bit of guilt about it. Anything to stop Orange Hitler from destroying the world via the reintroduction of carbureted cars, sticking Guatamalan babies on spits, and taking the tampons out of crossdressing men's restrooms.

Todd Juvinall

Robert Cross | 20 November 2019 at 01:02 PM
BoobieC the moron, we know you have lied here 13,000 times alone. So we don't believe anything you write here. Try another blog more suited to your liberal lies.

Don Bessee

The socialist dem clown car has blown a tire -

"Fast forward to the Democrat debates this year," Varney continued. "Oh, what a difference. Viewers are already turning off. Between the first debate in June and the one last month, the TV audience was actually cut in half. There's no Trump in these debates. There's no standout character, no sharp questioning either. It's boring."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/democratic-debate-ratings-stuart-varney

;-)

Walt

Hey Babs.. Head on over to the barren waste land of a blog. Jeffy needs your support. Your both good at making shit up.

Still no proof of your claim of a quid pro nope. Just another "It's my opinion". Did you miss the Q&A? "Do you have proof?" Uh,,,,,, errrr,,,,, um,,,, nooooooo........"

Walt

Schiff of brains gets an OH Schiff moment.
Sorry A-HOLE. That dickblower has no right to anninimity,,, and his own LIB dropped that turd in his oatmeal.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/20/democrat-jackie-speier-proves-no-law-protects-whistleblower-identity/

Rep. Jackie Speier (D-CA) accidentally proved Wednesday that there is no law protecting a whistleblower’s identity — undermining the argument that House Intelligence Committee chairman Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) has used to block any testimony of, or questions about, the whistleblower who triggered the ongoing impeachment inquiry.
Speier read aloud from a Washington Post article published earlier in the day that fact-checked Schiff’s claim that the whistleblower — whom Democrats previously wanted to testify — has a “statutory right” to anonymity.

She read the following into the record ("Federal law expressly restricts the inspector general’s office from disclosing whistleblowers’ identities. It says that “the Inspector General shall not disclose the identity of the employee without the consent of the employee, unless the Inspector General determines that such disclosure is unavoidable during the course of the investigation or the disclosure is made to an official of the Department of Justice responsible for determining whether a prosecution should be undertaken.”

That appears to be the lone statutory restriction on disclosing a whistleblower’s identity, applicable only to the inspector general’s office. We found no court rulings on whether whistleblowers have a right to anonymity under the ICWPA or related statutes. "

Bill Tozer

Breaking......

Ukrainian MP Says Burisma Head To Be Indicted, Hunter Biden Slush Fund Named

https://www.oann.com/ukrainian-mp-says-burisma-head-to-be-indicted-hunter-biden-slush-fund-named/

Peeling the layers off the onion

jon Bun Bun smith

Posted by: Robert Cross | 20 November 2019 at 01:02 PM

“What Sondland and several other reliable people said was the opposite. Duh!.“

Nuff said

Don Bessee

Creepy grampa joe turned comic, perhaps unintentionally? -

“No man has a right to raise a hand to a woman in anger, other than in self defense and that’s rarely ever occurred,” the 77-year-old Biden said. “So we have to just change the culture, period. And keep punching at it, and punching at it, and punching at it.”

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/11/20/biden-repeatedly-says-punch-it-while-touting-domestic-violence-plan/

;-)

Don Bessee

Now that's funny! -

https://www.foxnews.com/media/gq-writer-julie-ioffe-mocked-for-claiming-russian-quotation-mark-in-papers-hunter-bidens-baby-story

;-)

scenes

vindman:

https://www.westernjournal.com/seal-shot-bin-laden-trashes-vindman-operative-agenda

Castaneda

,,,Testimony this morning paints an even more alarming portrait of the DEEP STATE which is actually composed of Barr, Pompeo, Trump, et al.

,,,By jerking Ukraine around, not embracing them after their election, not meeting with the new president of Ukraine, meeting with Putin instead and withholding funds because they believed the narrative being disseminated by Russia that Ukraine, not Russia was behind the 2016 election propaganda and meddling,,,

,,,and through Trump's selfishness and simple mindedness and his chasing of Crowdstrike, Hillary server, Biden and Burisma conspiracies conducted by Giuliani,,,Trump and Giuliani are now shown to be a useful idiots for the advancement of the Russian agenda...

Bill Tozer

Schiff, Vindman, and Wile E Coyote. From Impeachment to the Debates and Back Again.

The Democrats thought it was initially smart to draw out this melodrama in the hopes that a Christine Blasey Ford or even a rank Michael Avenatti clone might show up with new “walls are closing in” bombshells. But so far, the soap opera is sheer boredom, Schiff playing the insufferable windbag.

No wonder Trump slowly creeps back up in the polls, and impeachment — without either bipartisan or 51-percent public support — slowly does the opposite.

Day by day, we get closer to the primaries, more debates, the conventions, and the election — all out of sight, out of mind, as a greedy Schiff sucks out all the cable news oxygen.

The 35–40 new swing-state House members are losing precious days to be able to campaign on promised “bipartisanship” work on the “issues,” rather than chasing impeachment. They are already being targeted by the RNC.

While these mice scurry about chasing bits of stale cheese, hawks such as Horowitz and Durham circle above with possible referrals and indictments as the accusers may soon be the accused. At some point, if Trump nears the high 40s in the aggregate polls and impeachment falls to the low 40s, Pelosi will want to call it off — but how and when, she knows not.

Meanwhile, the Democratic debate proved an afterthought. It was the monotonous doppelgänger of the inquiry — same old faces, same old nostrums, same old “Trump is the worst — ” (fill in the blanks). Biden looked as enfeebled as he sounded oddly hale, and for now has stopped apologizing for his past.

It was unlikely that too many Americans watched some ten hours of the impeachment inquiry, went to dinner, and then ran back to the TV for two more hours of the Democratic debate. And if they did, they certainly did not hear the 2018 winning midterm messages of moderation, practical solutions, and blue-collar pragmatism, but instead more wealth taxes, Trump is an ogre, Medicare for All, and a nocturnal replay of the daylong sanctimonious petulance.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/trump-impeachment-inquiry-democratic-debate-proves-to-be-afterthought/

Bill Tozer

Andrew McCarthy:

At Tuesday’s marathon session in Intelligence Committee proceedings, that continue on Wednesday and Thursday, other witnesses were invited to testify that they knew of no basis to believe Ukrainian officials had interfered in the 2016 election. Indeed, Democrats continued to press their disingenuous storyline that Ukraine could not have meddled in our presidential campaign because Russia did, as if it were not possible that both countries meddled – as it is virtually certain that both did, on opposite sides.
......
There is, similarly, a bounty of evidence of Ukrainian interference in the election. The president reasonably contends that his interests were not so much in the politics of 2020 as in accountability for election-meddling in 2016 – a matter Democrats purport to be interested in when the country at issue is Russia and the bottom line helps them politically.

More to the point, though, while Schiff claims that Biden corruption and Ukrainian election meddling have no relevance to the inquiry, he is not conducting the hearings that way. To the contrary, Democrats are raising these matters at will … with witnesses of their choosing, who have no relevant information.

Democrats then use the witnesses’ professions that they’ve heard nothing of Biden corruption or Ukrainian collusion as if it were evidence that these things did not happen.

In a legitimate proceeding, you can’t have it both ways.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/schiff-trump-impeachment-show-andrew-mccarthy


Bill Tozer

What ails our schools?? Short article.

The Left’s attempt to redefine science

“I can think of so many examples that would prove we shouldn’t let a set of presuppositions determine the conclusions. Take suspension/expulsion rates in schools, and even incarceration rates by gender. Because boys get suspended and expelled more than girls, and men make up the majority of prisoners, schools and society must be bigoted against men, correct?

How alarming that educators are being taught data can supposedly have the sentience to display bigotry.”

https://www.americanexperiment.org/2019/11/the-lefts-attempt-to-redefine-science/?

Bill Tozer

Excuse the indulgence. Walt, maybe Don, already posted on this tis-bit of juicy news, but I feel it is worth posting again. Been waiting for the fun to begin....a little foretaste of the things to come. Senate Trail, DOJ investigation into the origins of Russiagate, Ukrainian corruption.... its all kinda coming together bout the same time. I don’t put a lot of faith in the IG Report, but the Senate hearing will be “bombshells. And the primaries. It’s like a big orange pimple popping over everything. Anyway..

CNN: FBI OFFICIAL ALTERED DOCUMENT IN FAKE RUSSIA PROBE
Imagine how it must have pained CNN to report this: “FBI official under investigation after allegedly altering document in 2016 Russia probe.”

Who is the official? We don’t know. Nor does the CNN report makes clear the context, although, given the scope of the DOJ Inspector General’s investigation, obtaining the FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page is the obvious candidate.

An FBI official is under criminal investigation after allegedly altering a document related to 2016 surveillance of a Trump campaign adviser, several people briefed on the matter told CNN.

Presumably, that means the FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page.

The possibility of a substantive change to an investigative document is likely to fuel accusations from President Donald Trump and his allies that the FBI committed wrongdoing in its investigation of connections between Russian election meddling and the Trump campaign.

Well, yes. That is the point.

Horowitz turned over evidence on the allegedly altered document to John Durham, the federal prosecutor appointed early this year by Attorney General William Barr to conduct a broad investigation of intelligence gathered for the Russia probe by the CIA and other agencies, including the FBI. The altered document is also at least one focus of Durham’s criminal probe.

…The alterations were significant enough to have shifted the document’s meaning and came up during a part of Horowitz’s FISA review where details were classified, according to the sources.

So someone at the FBI needs to go to jail. This sounds like a tough rap to beat.

Horowitz’s investigators conducted more than 100 witness interviews in their review. During one of interviews this year, they confronted the witness about the document. The witness admitted to the change, the sources said.

Sounds like a pretty easy criminal prosecution. There is no conceivable excuse for altering a document that is submitted to a panel of federal judges as the basis for obtaining a warrant to spy on an American.

Maybe this has been public for a while, but I haven’t seen it: CNN says that the IG’s report will be published on December 9, and Horowitz will testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee on December 11. I’m looking forward to it.

Quote, u quote.


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