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12 November 2019

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Carlos Castaneda

,,,Cali haters,,,please leave now...

Cali whiners are too funny,,,

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-california-economy-gdp-20180504-story.html

Carlos Castaneda

,,,Ag was down,,,probably why prune boy VDH has such a sour face,,,

"All economic sectors except agriculture contributed to California’s higher GDP, said Irena Asmundson, chief economist at the California Department of Finance. Financial services and real estate led the pack at $26 billion in growth, followed by the information sector, which includes many technology companies, at $20 billion. Manufacturing was up $10 billion."

Paul Emery

George writes that California has " decades of one-party rule".

That in my view is simply not true. When you use the word "decades" precisely how many decades are you referring true to justify your math in this matter.

Paul Emery

Also George you can thank Trump and the current limp Republican party for the current condition which can't get much worse for your side. California now being a Blue County should be evidence enough to my observation.

George Rebane

PaulE 1126am - We've circled this barn many times. Please google 'California's one party rule' and then READ. Your "precisely" question is exactly the kind of crap that I'm talking about in this post. The issue is California becoming a shithole state, not 'precisely' anything. You are a champion of the deep denialists about the incompetent government of Sacramento collectivists. Thanks for the comment.

And no one doubts the ability of the socialist narrative to sway those who can't, won't or just don't know. That California is beyond Blue is not contended by anyone with an IQ above room temp.

George Rebane

Carlos 1107am - Perfect! Thanks for confirming that you and yours don't know the difference between 'hating California' and 'hating the Sacramento scumbags'. To many Californians those people are NOT California.

rl crabb

"Left wing cartoonist." Funny.

Gregory

RL, on the Left-Right spectrum, with a centrist no-person's land, you are delusional if you think you're not on the Left.

No, not Progressive Left or Marxist-Leninist-Maoist left.

On the Nolan Chart, you might lean Left libertarian. Might.

Paul Emery

George

So you stand by your statement that California has had " decades of one-party rule". Can you show me the numbers that support that contention? I think you are factually wrong with that statement.

scenes

re: Paul, from his headquarters at the Reinette Senum compound:

"So you stand by your statement that California has had " decades of one-party rule". Can you show me the numbers that support that contention? "

I'm assuming here you don't have the ability to actually f'ing look up anything. Let's see:

Democrats have held both the California House and Senate since 1971 with the exception of...1995-1996 in the Assembly, with W. Brown as Speaker. Actually since 1959 except for 1969-1970.

Democrats had both US Senate seats since 1993. Voted (D) for President since 1992. Governorships are roughly split from P. Brown on up, but I don't expect any more (R) governors, all (D) from 2011+, Ahnold was an odd bird.

1992 appears to be the inflection point, which seems to hold with my personal experience.

Judging from this chart..

https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_22/2452581/california-gop-decline-241_4d5d1e5643bc24c17100a1fecca3b6d3.fit-760w.png

Republicans stalled out while most gains were Team Blue. I'm still fairly convinced that it tracks the mass movement of Hispanics into CA ('progressive' immigration policy is brilliant in terms of seizing and holding power), but could be convinced otherwise.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party_strength_in_California

Gregory

Punchy 245pm

Open your eyes, Paulo... of the past over 60 years (January 1959, so nearly 61), there has been a Democratic Party Speaker of the Assembly for all but two of those years. Rust never sleeps.

A RINO gubernator like Ahnold is not a balance. A Pete Wilson or a Duke are a partial check against Dem excesses, but even Reagan was a Union man before he had solid GOP bona fides.

Walt

Guess the LIBS didn't see the news last night where many a small business is closing up shop. The new minimum wage is putting them under.
Of course the state loves the idea, the higher the wage, the more taxable income they can skim.
Good job killing jobs LIBS... Those business owners are already looking at other states to reopen a shop in.

Yes Proggys, you should actually pay attention.
Less makers for you takers to leech off of.

Bill Tozer

“Debating relevant and substantive issues for the country has never been a strong suit of our progressive Left. They cannot understand, let alone offer, a cogent structure of the relationships of influences and causes which impact the outcomes of a public policy. Not being able to go deeper, they simply respond by repetition of a strong opening assertion.....” Dr. Rebane

Just Google ‘Californians leaving’ or some such wording and you will find pages upon pages from left, right, and center sites to read. The elephant in the room is too gargantuan to overlook. Hmmm. It’s there any ‘center sites’ anymore. Ah, never mind, just do your own research.

There was a good article about folks leaving CA (not just retirees) a couple days ago and I did not post it BECAUSE it was so redundant I felt it was piling on. Nothing more to say or add with an exception story of Caexodus.
I can’t even go to the market without overhearing a conversion by someone I don’t even know talking about leaving....this area. Heck, the other day a checkout clerk told me they were leaving and I was just standing there remaining quiet. He even pulled out his phone and showed me a pic of his small house on 3-4 acres near here worth about 400-450k and then showed me a house he was looking at far from CA that was equivalent with 3 times the acreage with pond and out buildings (shops, garages, etc.) for 120k. He has already figured out he and his wife will save 2-300/ month just on gasoline. And the millennials are leaving so they can afford a home and find a good place to raise their kids. Kinda outgrew the two bedroom apartment.

The average price of a home in Ca (statewide average) is 650k. That means you need to pull down 120k/year just to quality for an abode. That is just the numbers. Add sales tax, state tax, gas tax, insurance...folks just either give up with the dreams of owning a piece of property they can call their own and home...or more on. Not all folks. Some are stuck.
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“Carlos 1107am - Perfect! Thanks for confirming that you and yours don't know the difference between 'hating California' and 'hating the Sacramento scumbags'. To many Californians those people are NOT California.

Posted by: George Rebane | 12 November 2019 at 12:08 PM”

Exactamundo, Dr. Rebane. Just because one is realistic to what is going on and critique it as such, does not equate to “hating California.” It’s not all black and white....unless you are a brain dead member of the Left.
The facts say CA is crumbling under its own laws and regulations and taxpayers are leaving and being replaced with people who take more than they give back. The Left, by contrast, does not dare look at the picture the facts portray and instead resort to their old standby; emotion. You hate California! Don’t criticize the Sacred Cow! The Deep Blue Sacred Cow.

We can see where this state is going and many of us lament (fear/grieve) what is happening to the State that once was known as the Promised Land world wide.

Kudos to Crabbman for at least recognizing that which cannot be swept under the carpet. Kudos to Crabbman for seeing beyond his own nose and beyond the bubble whence the local lefties dwell.

George Rebane

PaulE, cut it out. As usual, you didn't read what I asked in my 1206pm and did the usual sidestep. The whole nation knows which party has had sway over California for the last several decades. Instead, defend the policies that California has put into place and continues to expand on as it competes with New York, New Jersey, and Illinois to make itself into the anti-American shithole of the Union. That is the conversation that none of you leftwingers want to take part in.

RLCrabb 156pm - Bob, let your record speak for itself. In science the recommended test is relative frequency of which sides your cartoons have taken when they have treated our politics. NO ONE knowledgeable about America's political spectrum would consider you to be a centrist. To your credit, you do throw a crumb to the other side every once in a while, and you have not yet entered into progressivism's rabid sector.

Walt

Our Proggys will stay VARY silent on this as well.
Just look who the ne DA is in FRISCO. The Son of Bill Ayers, with values to match.
https://www.city-journal.org/chesa-boudin-san-francisco-anti-police-da
"Fuck the POA!” filled the room, the leader at the podium offered her middle finger, and many in the crowd followed suit. The profane chorus was not led by a grassroots Boudin supporter, nor by an Antifa rabble-rouser, but by Sandra Lee Fewer, an elected member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors. Other city supervisors past and present also graced the stage, including Matt Haney, Hillary Ronen, and Jane Kim."

"Boudin pledged to stop taking first-offense drunk drivers to trial, providing they didn’t injure anyone. He promised to end gang enhancements, part of a California law that adds additional prison sentences to defendants who participate in violent street gangs. As for quality-of-life crimes that harm communities, he’s been open about ignoring them, stating that “crimes such as public camping, offering or soliciting sex, public urination, blocking a sidewalk, etc., should not and will not be prosecuted.”

These changes will likely result in harm and injury. Gang warfare, for example, is heating up, as organized Honduran nationals take over large swaths of the city, selling fentanyl and other deadly narcotics. The first quarter of 2019 saw 39 fentanyl-related deaths, which, at current rates, will just about double those of last year. The sex trade is rarely victimless, and people living in and around homeless camps experience high levels of violence."

Isn't the NEOLIB grand?

Paul Emery

Lets see Gregory

You say that there has not been a shortage of Repub Governors but most of what them have been flawed . Pubs have been Governor for 48 years since WWll compared to the dems 30, showing things are a far cry from what George calls a one party state. Of course once Trump is done wrecking the Republican party it will be in such a state that it might never recover perhaps making Georges prophecy true after all

Walt

Being governor means jack diddly Emery. Go ahead. Count Arnold. He was one of yours, despite what he claimed to be. And we through out Davis just why? More DEM than Repub.

Trump is doing exactly what he said he would do. He's actually acting like a Repub should. Sorry Buzzard, Trump isn't going to roll over looking for you and yours to scratch his belly.

You sound more Commie day by day.

Bill Tozer

Oh Walt, sometimes a Governor wields power over the people and their representatives’ voice. Especially when it goes against Frisco values.

“In September 2016, Brown vetoed Senate Bill 1463, which aimed to reduce the risk of power lines sparking fires in brush-covered and wooded areas, saying in his veto letter that the bill duplicated existing efforts. SB 1463 had been unanimously approved by the state Legislature.”

Hmmm. Unanimously supported means Ca Senate passed the bill 40-0.
Ca Assembly passed the bill 80-0

Unelected Greenies won!

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Punch-E (he/him) is desperate for a rump Republican Party! When his progressive democrat/green libertarians finally cause the state to auger in he’s going to be frantically looking for a scapegoat!


......must preserve the narrative ......must preserve the narrative ......must preserve the narrative ......must preserve the narrative ......must preserve the narrative ......must preserve the narrative ......must preserve the narrative

R. Allen Rippy III

Goodnight,

Who the F is "Duke"? Do you mean to say John Wayne was the Gov. of California?

California is one of the leading economic growth states in the nation and is running a balanced budget. Yes, its become much more diverse since 1992. You will remember Pete Wilson had absymal approval ratings after he went full public with his racism.

So yes, the Dems are in charge as the adults should be. Perhaps you should consider running a more moderate GOP candidate next time, in the mold of Arnold. The hard right rules your loser party, and you reap the consequences. Too bad, so sad.

R. Allen Rippy III

Walt Branson,

You don't know shit about San Francisco, you don't visit the city, you don't know how people refer to the city (not FRISCO loser). You are ignorant about SF values.

You are excused from any future conversation about the City.

fish

Posted by: R. Allen Rippy III | 12 November 2019 at 07:44 PM


Quelle surprise.......another personality!

Don Bessee

Jeeeezzzzzzzzzzeee cant we even get mediocre trolls around here?! This crop is long past its sell date -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Deukmejian

;-)

Scott O

"Pete Wilson had absymal approval ratings after he went full public with his racism."
Unfortunately there seems to be no record of this. Perhaps this sock puppet could provide actual video, audio, or transcript of proof of Pete Wilson's 'racism'?
Prop 187 passed with flying colors. Is that the 'evidence' of Wilson's low numbers?
"Perhaps you should consider running a more moderate GOP candidate next time, in the mold of Arnold."
You mean run folks calling themselves Rs but espousing Democrat talking points?
What would be the point? You still wouldn't win.
The Dems would still trash the state and Paul would still blame you.
Why don't you fun-loving true-blue Dems all move to South Central or El Monte?
Oh, that's right - heh, heh - a little toooo much 'diversity' going on there.
Far better to stay and play in Whitey-white county and cast aspersions on those you don't agree with.
Gotta love that white, left wing morality.

fish

You don't know shit about San Francisco, you don't visit the city, you don't know how people refer to the city (not FRISCO loser). You are ignorant about SF values.


Yes......it is lovely when the turds bloom and the smell of feces.....redolent if you will.....wafts through the air!


I understand why you are so fond of it!

Walt

Truth sure stings don't it, asswipe with Frisco values?
I know plenty about the shitpile by the bay. That's why I will find ANY excuse NOT to go there.
Just change your name to "I.P.Freely" and you will be right at home. Prance down Twin Peaks all the way to Market.

Scott O

Worst left wing slip up yet - "You don't know shit about San Francisco..."
Well, actually that's the whole point, dude.
The whole world knows about SF's fecal problem.
Maybe this stupid sock puppet can let us in on what other city has its own app to let folks know where the heaviest concentrations of human poop piles are?
Methinks the left is getting just a tad nervous about their blossoming 'progressive' nirvana.

Walt

Yup,, useing "shit and Frisco" in the same sentence sure says a lot, stinkass.

You say LIBS are the adults? Step back and away from the crack pipe. Your LIBS are pro thug, pro criminal. Only Proggycrats think it's a good idea to decriminalize crime. Looking for more instant voters? Yup, you really need to be on drugs to think it's a good idea to vote LIB.

They only thing "Rippy" about you, is what's been coming out of your ass.

Walt

Here you go Rippyshits, AKA "Frisco Kid"
https://www.bustle.com/articles/116255-san-francisco-poop-map-shows-where-to-avoid-human-waste-on-the-street-and-its-both
I have a new business for you to start in Frisco by the Bay
Rent Tall Boots to the tourists! Get them to buy photos of them standing ankle deep in bumshit! 40 bucks! Easy money "Frisco Kid".

Walt

Your now "excused" from this conversation.🤣🤣🤣🤣👌

Walt

A little history on the new Marxist DA of Frisco.
Chesa Boudin
"When Boudin was 14 months old, his parents were arrested for murder in their role as getaway car drivers in the Brink's robbery of 1981 in Rockland County, New York.[1][3] His mother was sentenced to 20 years to life[4] and his father to 75 years to life for the felony murders of two police officers and a security guard.[5] After his parents were incarcerated, Boudin was raised in Chicago by adoptive parents Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who, like his parents, had been members of the Weather Underground.[6] Kathy Boudin was released under parole supervision in 2003.[3][7]

Boudin descends from a long left-wing lineage. His great-great-uncle, Louis B. Boudin,[8] was a Marxist theoretician and author of a two-volume history of the Supreme Court's influence on American government, and his grandfather Leonard Boudin was an attorney who represented controversial clients such as Fidel Castro and Paul Robeson.[9] Boudin is also related to Michael Boudin,[8] a judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the First Circuit, and I.F. Stone, an independent journalist.[8][10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesa_Boudin

Yup.. You Commie bastards picked a good one.

🐟

Seen elsewhere.....


Remember when we imagined San Francisco as the capital of an interstellar federation dedicated to peace and science?


We were stupid.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=23&v=aks0tOoRWWU&feature=emb_title

M

This conversation about human feces piling up on the streets is
disgusting. Now excuse me while I go take a nice big San Fransisco.

M’s Bun Bun

You don’t know shit about California. Chicken squat, get it while it’s hot.

https://thehollywoodunlocked.com/homeless-man-throws-bucket-of-hot-diarrhea-at-woman/

George Rebane

Topic gentlemen.

scenes

Okay, I get it.

George sez: "decades of one-party rule" (ie. > 1)
Paul now sez: "since WWII"

Peanut gallery sez: "Utter domination by Team Blue of legislature and federal voting, split on governors"
Paul now sez: "Governors *are* the government"

Plus you can add in the huge .gov institutional bias towards Team Blue. Government employees heavily tend towards the political Left.

Paul, are you at all interested in accuracy? Do you really think that a 'news' guy should be truthful in the current era? Perhaps you should stick to concert promotion and busking? I guess that 'news' means whatever you want it to mean.

Personally, I thank God that Trump appeared. He's made it obvious to everyone how the fix was in at the federal level (especially to the pro-police Right) and the ongoing coup attempt by federal executives is something to behold. I expect that he'll be long gone and the three letter agencies will still run matters. I simply can't help that in the name of drag queen reading hour the local 'liberals' want to slip the handcuffs on everyone's wrists.

fish

Posted by: scenes | 13 November 2019 at 07:37 AM

Okay, I get it.

George sez: "decades of one-party rule" (ie. > 1)
Paul now sez: "since WWII"

Peanut gallery sez: "Utter domination by Team Blue of legislature and federal voting, split on governors"
Paul now sez: "Governors *are* the government"

Plus you can add in the huge .gov institutional bias towards Team Blue. Government employees heavily tend towards the political Left.


Punchy reminds me of the Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland…..Republican control of California government….. "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less".

Bill Tozer

Darn Scenes. That was my first impression yesterday reading the comments in the afternoon.

Dr. Rebane writes a post of hundreds of words and Punchy picks out one sentence he disagrees with to make that the topic and disregards the rest. Well, at least he is consistent.

Personally, I liked the cactus in RL Crabb’s drawing and the yellowish landscape to portray the line people of people leaving the “Golden” State, but then I would be missing the Forest from the trees if I dwelt (obsessed) on that point. It would be a complete distraction of the just of post.
And the reaction from our local and national Lefties was as predictable as saying that 1/3 of the Baltimore high schools had ZERO students proficient in math and English, with an additional high school having just a solitary student proficient in math. Crickets on the issue, save Trump is a racist. “Whoa, you can smell the rats.”

Let’s look at the sentence ithat Punchy disagreed with, shall we?

“California is already a lost cause. Its decades of one-party rule has left one third of its population without a voice as its socialists continue to tax, price, and regulate out the last vestiges of individual effort, initiative, and enterprise. The message from the Sacramento socialists continues to be ‘my way or the highway’. And millions of productive Californians respond by choosing the highway as each additional and more insane than the last diktat issues from the statehouse. Our lefties have nothing to say about that in the public debate, save that the more looney ones deny that it is happening.”

The Silence of the Socialists. Reminds me of the argument every large city controlled by Democrats for decades are crime infested shitholes....to which the Socialists remained silent and the local Lefties came from up some Florida city’s municipality square mile stat to prove a basis to toss the whole post about “large” cities controlled by Democrats for decades are shitholes.

scenes

" Reminds me of the argument every large city controlled by Democrats for decades are crime infested shitholes."

The next step is going down the rabbit hole of defining 'crime infested' and 'shithole', although I know a shithole when I see it.

Just wait until our Robot Overlords are doing realtime sociology experiments. Unless the RO's are highly indoctrinated with the politically correct programming of the day, a lot of people really won't like the recommendations. Maybe that's the third party everyone is waiting for.

Gregory

No, it's spelled 'frisco.

Duke has been outed... not John Wayne. Bizarre thought process, or perhaps better termed a "lack of thought process" by Rodney Alien Bippy III at 739pm:
"So yes, the Dems are in charge as the adults should be. Perhaps you should consider running a more moderate GOP candidate next time, in the mold of Arnold. The hard right rules your loser party, and you reap the consequences. Too bad, so sad."

Taking lessons from Pelline he is.

Let me refresh the record: my loser party are the Libertarians... it would be the Liberal Party but Liberal has been co-opted by socialists wearing Progressive clothing.

If the GOP (not my party) ran another Ahnold he would be vilified as the Devil in the campaign, the standard treatment by the Dems in and out of the media.

The state is insolvent. It's only a matter of time before the debts we can't pay come due... and that's when there will be an opening in state politics.

Gregory

Regarding "Duke" Deukmejian who died at his home in Long Beach on May 8, 2018 at the age of 89:
"George Deukmejian was a popular governor and made friends across the political aisle. Anne and I join all Californians in expressing our deepest condolences to his family and friends" -Jerry Brown on twitter

Gregory

I recall an early attempt at painting GOP voters as racist when a poll asked, during the Bradley-Deukmejian campaigns for governor if they'd vote for a black American for governor and there was a depressingly large minority who wouldn't.

When a followup poll was taken asking folks if they'd vote for an Armenian American, an even larger group said no.

Duke was the son of two Armenian refugees from the Genocide, and his paternal aunt died in the slaughter by Turks. He did his family proud.

Bill Tozer

While some of us have posted much about Frisco’s new AJ, I will hit it again.

“San Francisco Gets The Leader It Deserves
Meet District Attorney Chesa Boudin: Bill Ayers prodigy, Hugo Chávez aide, public urination advocate”

https://freebeacon.com/politics/san-francisco-urination/

Strike the headline and make it California gets the leaders they deserve.

scenes

"public urination advocate"

lol. Ow, my sides! I think that both I and the local Blue Mob are 100% behind this guy's new gig. He's absolutely perfect. It's probably time to buy stock in companies that produce hypodermic needles and bleach cannons.

After spending a few moments reading pre-2018 news articles on him and his sainted parents, I'm even more convinced.

I think it's a darned shame that Joe Slovo is dead since he'd make a perfect governor of California.

Everyone should take a drive to check out the new buildings behind the Northern Queen. That's how new homes in California are going to start to look.

Bill Tozer

When the party is over, turn off the light. :(. VDH

What Happened to California Republicans?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/11/california-progressive-politics-residents-tiring-one-party-rule/

Bill Tozer

THE URINE TEST
A foreign correspondent I used to know liked to say that a good test for national decline is the smell of urine. In declining countries, one frequently smells it.

Americans in certain jurisdictions can expect to smell more urine soon. Left-wing prosecutors, some financed by George Soros, will be decriminalizing urination in public.

This is one of a several “quality of life” crimes the left wants to stop prosecuting. Some prosecutors also want theft below a certain dollar amount to go largely unpunished.

The theory behind this decriminalization effort is that poor people and members of certain minority groups commit a disproportionate number of these crimes. But it’s also the case that poor people and members of the same minority groups are disproportionately victimized by many of them.

They can expect to be smelling the urine first.

Left-wing prosecutors say they will continue scrupulously to prosecute violent crime. There will be exceptions based on the race of the thug and his victim, but that’s not the main problem. The main problem is that violent criminals will be serving shorter sentences. Hence, there will be more violent crime.

How will the public view these consequences? Most people, I assume, prefer a good quality of life to a diminished one. Most people would rather not be robbed, even if the amount taken is relatively small. And you have to be an extreme leftist not to be alarmed by a spike in violent crime.

Yet, softness on crime is at the forefront of the left’s radical agenda for America. This seems like a bad strategy. Why not give out a lot of free stuff first (by taxing the hell out of the wealthy), then crack down on freedom of expression (following the example of America’s colleges and universities), and, only later, risk the public’s ire by undermining law and order?

The answer, I think, is that the left can’t yet win the offices required to implement most aspects of its radical agenda. George Soros might be able to buy some congressional seats, but he can’t buy Congress as a whole.

In some jurisdictions, however, he can unseat serious prosecutors (many of them Democrats) and replace them with radicals. And he can do so at what, for him, is a low price.

The amount of money Soros spent to oust capable Democrat prosecutors in Northern Virginia was obscene by the standards of campaigns for this office. However, it was a drop in the bucket compared to what’s needed to unseat a member of Congress these days.

Moreover, conservatives and moderates focus on congressional races and contests for other high profile offices. Local prosecutor races fly under the radar, making it possible for Soros to ambush at least some of those he finds too conscientious about fighting crime.

The left is impatient and opportunistic. It will exploit weakness where it can, even if this means that, in some areas, the smell of urine —

Quote, unquote

Bill Tozer

Circling the barn with the Sounds of Silence.

Millennials Are Fleeing Cities For Refuge From Democrats’ Disasters
New Census Bureau data shows millennials are increasingly trading in urban life for the suburbs and even switching states entirely.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/29/millennials-are-fleeing-cities-for-refuge-from-democrats-disasters/

“Ridiculously high state and local tax burdens prevent young adults—who are just getting their lives together—from spending their income as they see fit, as well as meeting basic obligations like student loan payments. Locally, Philadelphia has the fifth-highest taxes per capita. Among the U.S. cities that tax more are New York and San Francisco, both of which also saw an exodus of young adults in the recent data.

Leaving places that become unaffordable and inconvenient is a form of protest. And the problem isn’t limited to high-tax cities. Young people are also leaving high-tax states. According to research from the Cato Institute, in 2016 all but one of the 25 highest-taxes states experienced a net loss of population. Comparatively, the 17 lowest-taxes states experienced a net increase.”


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