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29 January 2020

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odlaw

,,,Bolton might not need a job if the book sells like crazy...

odlaw

,,,Bolton could always be invited to the Burisma BOD...;)

George Rebane

odlaw 502pm - he appears to be betting on it. 504pm - Not likely since he doesn't have a big daddy in the deep state able to pull levers favorable to Burisma.

hot cross buns

Not likely since he doesn't have a big daddy in the deep state able to pull levers like those that are pulled for Jared and Invanka.. I would mention donnie jr. and Eric but they are both too stupid to be of any note or threat to our democracy.

Alan Dershowitz, who don't forget defended child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein which makes him the perfect guy for trumpler's defense team, is now claiming that a president who manipulates foreign policy to aid his reelection cannot be impeached. In other words, using the power of the office of president to extort or bribe (using tax payer money by the way) officials of a foreign government to interfere in our elections is now an acceptable part of our electoral system, so get over it. Is this acceptable to you?

I assume that you favor a Senate trial without further testimony or documents. A sham of a trial that will provide an outcome that will soothe your brain and reinforce your wisdom.... It was all those nasty dems and evil journalists who just made all this crap up..right.. trying to brainwash the public and take away your vote for trump, that didn't count anyway because of the electoral college. But Moscow Mitch and the trumplican cult will save you and yours from total embarrassment while ending the 'great experiment in democracy' as we plummet toward authoritarianism. Just drink the trump-aide and it will all turn out fine.

Bill Tozer

Sham? Sham, Roberta says. I agree. The House impeachment hearings were a sham and the sham continues.

John Bolton went to see the judge. The House Dem lawyers where there. Bolton says, “Hey Judge, if you want me to testify to Schiffilis’s gang, I need you to order me. The House lawyers said, “Nah, your honor, we don’t need Ambassador Bolton’s testimony. We got all we need.” Case dropped.

So, what happens next? As soon as the House Dems did their ceremonial march over to the Senate (after holding the Articles of Impeachment for weeks), the very FIRST thing they shriek is “We Need witnesses. We need Bolton to testify!!!!” And that was before Sunday night’s Bolton Red Herring book ‘bombshell’

Talk about a sham. The lying sack of schiffs tell a court they don’t need no stinkin’ Bolton testimony, then cry “Unfair! Coverup, unfair, coverup” the second their case leaves the House.

Sham. Sham. Sham. Lying sacks of schiffs

odlaw

Posted by: hot cross buns | 29 January 2020 at 08:33 PM

,,,is now claiming that a president who manipulates foreign policy to aid his reelection cannot be impeached,,,

I heard that also and I thought it was bizzare...

That goes along with McConnell deciding no Scotus picks during election years if it comes from Dems...

,,,Russia, if you're listening...get me dirt on Hillary

,,,Ukraine do me a favor and get me dirt on Biden

,,,China, do you have any dirt on Bidens???

,,,But now Trump can just say... Iran, I will let you have nukes if you do me a favor...kill Biden...

George Rebane

Did we just touch a nerve?

Bill Tozer

Sham! It’s making a mockery of our Constitution.....and the Dems.

I never thought that the Executive Branch doing its due diligence by investigating corruption would be an impeachable offense. Silly me, I thunk that went with the President’s job title.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhmnBPK-APM

Remember Punchy saying if the President just turns over the docs and allows Bolton and POTUS’s chief of staff and some drunk dude testify, it will all go away, lol. Sure, we believe you and I have some beachfront property to sell ya in Arizona.

I wonder what the next ‘bombshell’ will be, to be dropped between now and Saturday. Cocaine Mitch has that shit eating grin coming back on his mug.

L

Keach @(:31 Hate to keep correcting you, but "kill (ing) Biden" is redundant.

Bill Tozer

Highly recommended.

Topping My Impeachment Witness List: Adam Schiff
Schiff and his so-called "whistleblower" have scripted this entire inquisition.

“That happened while Schiff’s co-conspirator, Ciaramella, was the Ukraine adviser to Biden.

Democrats are even more concerned about exposing Ciaramella’s motives now that investigative journalist Paul Sperry has revealed this inconvenient tidbit: “Barely two weeks after Donald Trump took office, Eric Ciaramella … was overheard in the White House discussing with another staffer how to remove the newly elected president from office, according to former colleagues.”

And Fox News’s Laura Ingraham reported that the whistleblower also has some extremely inconvenient connections to both the Bidens and Burisma.“

https://patriotpost.us/alexander/68226-topping-my-impeachment-witness-list-adam-schiff-2020-01-29?

odlaw

,,, Douchowitz speaks...

The public elects its representatives and elections are in the public interest...

So what ever a political candidate does in the self-serving interest of his election is in the public good...

...whatever Douchowitz...I think he is losing it à la BatBoy Giuliani and Dear Leader...

fish

Were countin em down……..


5. When Obama illegally fired an Inspector General to protect a sex predator

Also in 2009, Barack Obama illegally fired Gerald Walpin, the Inspector General for the Corporation for National and Community Service. Walpin’s only crime was that he was investigating Obama’s friend and donor, Kevin Johnson. Johnson had misused federal grant money for AmeriCorps by funneling it to his personal nonprofit group, paying for political activity, and using it to pay hush money to underage girls he’d sexually abused. When Walpin recommended charges against Johnson, Obama, in violation of federal law, fired him. An investigation by Congress into the illegal firing was met with stonewalling by the Obama White House, and the withholding of documents. The Obama White House also deliberately misled Congress about the reasons for the firing.

How do Democrats justify not impeaching Obama after he broke the law by firing an Inspector General to protect someone who sexually abused underage girls just because he was a friend and supporter?


Because…..shut up….that's why!


4. When Obama illegally offered Joe Sestak an administration job to not run for Congress

Barack Obama violated at least four federal laws back in 2010 by offering then-Congressman Joe Sestak (D-PA) a job in his administration for not challenging Arlen Specter for the Democratic nomination for U.S. Senate. Specter had recently switched from the GOP to the Democratic Party, and that switch was contingent on support from Obama. Obama’s then-spokesman Robert Gibbs wouldn’t confirm or deny that they made any offer. It wasn't until after Sestak defeated Specter in the primary that the Obama White House finally admitted that Obama offered Sestak a federal job to stay out of the election. The media was quick to accept the White House version of events, including the “everybody does it” excuse, and they accepted the White House claim that nothing improper happened. Even Republicans lost interest in pursuing the story after Sestak was defeated in the general election by Republican Pat Toomey.


3. When Obama illegally changed immigration law via executive order

Obama spent most of his presidency with a divided Congress or a GOP-controlled Congress. His radical left-wing agenda was mostly DOA because rather than work toward compromise legislation, his default position was to act on his own, assuming the executive authority to change laws via executive fiat. Anyone who’s familiar with the Constitution knows he had no such authority.

Still, when the DREAM Act failed to pass, Obama issued an executive order creating DACA, an executive-branch version of the DREAM Act. Obama literally bypassed Congress, changing U.S. immigration law via executive pen to appease his pro-open-borders base.

What makes Obama’s abuse of power here even worse is that he’d previously acknowledged that he didn’t have the power to unilaterally create immigration law. But, when that pesky Constitution impeded his radical agenda, suddenly he decided that he did have that power. How many times have we heard Democrats claim that “no president is above the law” when talking about Trump? So far, they’ve failed to make a case that Trump has acted above the law because polls haven’t changed since they started the impeachment process. But, when Obama repeatedly acted above the law, they were nowhere to be found.


2. Obama’s illegal prisoner swap for Bowe Bergdahl

Back in 2014, the GAO ruled that Obama’s prisoner swap of five detainees at Guantanamo Bay prison in exchange for deserter Bowe Bergdahl violated federal law. “The Department of Defense violated section 8111 of the Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2014 when it transferred five individuals detained at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to the nation of Qatar without providing at least 30-days notice to certain congressional committees," the GAO explained.

Obama’s swap violated another law, the Antideficiency Act, which prohibits federal employees from spending money not authorized by Congress.

"In this case, the duty to inform Congress could have been easily satisfied and it was not even necessary to violate the law in order to carry out the exchange," wrote George Washington Law Professor Jonathan Turley at the time the ruling was made. "It seems more likely that this was done for political purposes to avoid opposition in Congress."

Did Democrats care that the GAO had concluded Obama broke the law? Nope, In fact, Senator Debbie Stabenow completely forgot that it happened during a recent interview with Neil Cavuto.


1. Obama’s illegal Iran ransom payment

A few short months after Obama had completed negotiations for the Iran Nuclear Deal was official, the Obama administration made a shady payment to Iran of $400 million that coincided with the release of four hostages and was done completely in secret. The payment was made with foreign currency and done under the cover of night. Obama kept this so well under wraps that not even Congress knew about the payments or the hostage exchange. Why didn’t he at least tell Democrats in Congress? Probably because Obama knew the cash payment was illegal.

Anti-terrorism sanctions with Iran, which were still in place at the time of the payment. Obama claimed the reason they made the payment with foreign currency was that those sanctions prevented Iran from having access to America’s financial system. But, as Andrew McCarthy noted, “the sanctions prohibit transactions with Iran that touch the U.S. financial system, whether they are carried out in dollars or foreign currencies.”

“By his own account, President Obama engaged in the complex cash transfer in order to end-run sanctions that prohibit the U.S. from having ‘a banking relationship with Iran,’” explained McCarthy. “The point of the sanctions is not to prevent banking with Iran; it is to prevent Iran from getting value from or through our financial system — the banking prohibition is a corollary.”

McCarthy continued, “And the point of sanctions, if you happen to be the president of the United States sworn to execute the laws faithfully, is to follow them — not pat yourself on the back for keeping them in place while you willfully evade them. … Oh, and there is also Section 560.701, which makes clear that willful violations of the regulations constitute serious felony offenses under federal criminal law — punishable by up to 20 years’ imprisonment.”

Since Barack Obama broke the by violating sanctions that were still in place in order to make a ransom payment, Congress launched an investigation, only to be met with obstruction by the Obama administration.


Bleat dugsKKKi bleat! Bleat like Roberta bleats! Even better bleat like Punchmaster Flash….the bleatiest bleater of all!


Bleeeeeeeeat!



https://pjmedia.com/trending/5-times-obama-broke-the-law-but-democrats-didnt-impeach-him/

L

Right, Keach. Everybody's crazy except you.

odlaw

Posted by: fish | 30 January 2020 at 07:27 AM

,,,Look over there...it's Obama!!!

pay no attention to impeached Orange Man!!!

Todd Juvinall

I have tweeted numerous times for the R's to stick together and vote this travesty into the dustbin. You all should too. And George's summation is spot on here as we see the lefty propaganda lemmings of the media do their mass's bidding. But the truth is spreading and they will be defeated. The Rally in NJ was a small example of the people's rejection of the media and the left's attempts to take over. 150,000 people at the rally inside and out. And the aerial shots prove it. In a blue state! So in my opinion most Americans are fair minded and this will coalese in November to a huge win for the R's.

fish

Posted by: odlaw | 30 January 2020 at 08:50 AM


Weak sauce Keachie Chan…….no complaints from the "Good Government" contingent when O'Dummy was playing fast and loose with the law!


Bleeeeeat!


Qanon told me to post this!

odlaw

,,,Prognosticators

Syncopating deniers

Losers gonna lose...

fish

Posted by: odlaw | 30 January 2020 at 09:00 AM


Losers gonna lose…



Wonderful……you've come to terms with a Sanders nomination then!


This is real personal growth for you dugsKKKi!

crosstops

Obama obama obama hillary hillary Hilary Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi ....witch hunt witch hunt.. bullshit bullshit bullshit --speaking of bleating
This is all you folks do is bleat about the synthetic history conjured up by Fox News that you can not prove and has been widely debunked. OH yeah it was all lamestream media lies to bring down trumpler. yes you R's better stick together birds of a feather and ignore the cover-up that is so obvious to anyone who hasn't consumed trump-aide. talk about gullible and stupid..

fish

Posted by: crossflops | 30 January 2020 at 09:16 AM


#midolmidolmidol

George Rebane

It sure appears that Prof Dershowitz's Senate tutorial about politicians' self-assessment of concordance between their own and public interests was way beyond the ken of our progressive commenters. That little piece of needed tutelage was almost tautological to most people who heard it - well, most people not marching to Democrat drums.

Bill Tozer

Quotes: A day old, but still tasty.

Grand delusions: “I understand why Leader McConnell and President Trump wanted a very short, incredibly rushed trial. Because the longer it goes on, the more likely that new evidence and more new evidence will come out that further implicates the president.” —Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, who didn’t complain when House Democrats rushed their inquiry

And who’s controlling the drip? “There’s been a steady drip, drip, drip of information… In that sense, this is reminiscent of Watergate.” —Chuck Schumer

The BIG Lie: “Hunter Biden has nothing to do with the facts of this trial.” —Chuck Schumer

And last… “Last month: The case is made, it’s not important to fight over witnesses, we need to rush this to the Senate, no time for court. This month: The fate of the Republic hinges on witnesses, and this should drag on in the Senate for as long as it takes because it’s just like court.” —Twitter satirist @hale_razor
———————————-
Bonus! A day old, put still tasty: meanwhile back at the Senate....Those Dregs of Society are sticking together.

https://twitter.com/mad_liberals/status/1221124556557033473?

crosshatch

#midolmidolmidol --this coming from a phylum lower on the evolutionary tree than snakes and lizards. It's all about evolution you know.. you people are the Neanderthals of the 21st century .. without the necessary cranial capacity to understand the changing world, so you voraciously cling to the old ways of doing and thinking. History is full of examples of civilizations that destroyed their environment and themselves in the process without understanding how it all happened...the 3rd Reich comes to mind. I'm sure future generations will equate trumplican rule in the same way we equate lead poisoning with the Romans.

Gregory

"...the 3rd Reich comes to mind."


Godwin forfeit. Thanks for playing.

Bill Tozer

@ 10:04 am
Snakes and lizards, crappatch?

https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/pb.51560645913.-2207520000../10157035249980914/?type=3&theater

odlaw

Posted by: George Rebane | 30 January 2020 at 09:35 AM

'''politicians' self-assessment of concordance between their own and public interests'''

You mean like Trump's inability to understand that BidenDirtGate investigations by BatBoy Giuliani are in his self-interest and not the public interests???

George Rebane

odlaw 1017am - missed it again, but try, try again - you never know, there's always a chance of a hit.

fish

Posted by: oldaw | 30 January 2020 at 10:17 AM

You mean like Trump's inability to understand that BidenDirtGate investigations by BatBoy Giuliani are in his self-interest and not the public interests???


If breaking the law is not "in the public interest" than again you clearly don't care for anything but your partisan interests. Not a single complaint when Obama was acting "against the public interest" by breaking the law the instances mentioned. Really……the protection of the child molester didn't even peak your curiosity?

I guess some will have to suffer these crimes in order for you to make your progressive omelet!

Don Bessee

The impacts of the socialist dems jihad -

AP-NORC poll: GOP more fired up for 2020, Democrats anxious

https://apnews.com/4daf1b154eeff75b97b886e2fe8c1d29

;-)


crossword

Greggy -- same old lame excuse -- Goodwin even said himself that if the shoe fits with regard to nazi comparisons, then wear it.

fish

Posted by: odlaw | 30 January 2020 at 10:36 AM


….and you didn't. You don't care about any of these thing you claim to care about when there's a democrat in the White House.


#hypocrites

odlaw

,,,back at ya Fishy!!!

Bill Tozer

Fresh quotes

“Stunning that Adam Schiff lies to millions of Americans when he says he doesn’t know the identity of the whistleblower. He absolutely knows the identity of the whistleblower b/c he coordinated with the individual before the whistleblower’s complaint! His staff helped write it!” —Rep. Elise Stefanik

Insight: “The first duty of a newspaper is to be accurate. If it is accurate, it follows that it is fair.” —Herbert B. Swope (1882-1958)

For the record: “[Hunter Biden] is why we are where we are.” —Sen. Joe Manchin

Fightin’ words: “We need to send a message that if you indulge this kind of politics, you’re not just going to get beat, you’re going to get beaten so bad you can never run or show your face again in public, because we have had enough, absolutely enough, of what we are getting from Donald Trump and his fellow travelers right now.” —Georgia Senate candidate Jon Ossoff

And he’s absolutely right! “All quid pros are not the same. Some are legitimate and some are corrupt and you don’t need to be a mind reader to figure out which is which.” —Rep. Adam Schiff

You hear that, dimwitted voters? “[Impeachment] is not voiding the last election; it is protecting the next election.” —Adam Schiff

Hypocrisy: “Presidents should not be in the business of asking even their own Justice Department to investigate their rivals.” —Adam Schiff

The BIG Lie: “The president is a danger to the United States. He’s tried to rig the next election. He’s abused his power and he must be brought to heel and the country must be saved from his continuing efforts to rig our elections.” —Rep. Jerry Nadler

Braying jackass: “This is un-American. This is what you hear from Stalin. This is what you hear from Mussolini, what you hear from authoritarians, from Hitler, from all the authoritarian people who rationalized, in some cases genocide, based what was in the public interest.” —CNN contributor and former Clinton administration official Joe Lockhart on Alan Dershowitz’s defense of Trump

Where have we heard this before? “If young people come out and vote in high numbers, we can fundamentally transform this country.” —Sen. Bernie Sanders

Braying jenny: “The GOP is now the pro-totalitarian party. It is a clear and present danger.” —faux conservative Jennifer Rubin

odlaw

,,,Sadsack Evangelical attorney Sekulo would not answer the question...all they can do is try to withhold evidence...


Democratic senators asked the House managers and Trump’s legal team who is paying Rudolph W. Giuliani in his capacity as the president’s personal attorney.

Neither side could say.

Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), the lead impeachment manager, said he doesn’t know, but that it “raises profound questions.”

“I don’t know who’s directly paying the freight for it, but I can tell you the whole country is paying the freight for it because there are leaders around the world who are watching this, and they’re saying the American presidency is open for business,” Schiff said.

Trump attorney Jay Sekulow ignored the question and instead repeated talking points about the Bidens and their dealings in Ukraine.'''

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/impeachment-trial-live-updates/2020/01/30/3aa505ba-434f-11ea-b5fc-eefa848cde99_story.html#link-NDPOTF4YJQZNXIUXNQ37GJQG5Q

Paul Emery


Incredible that the Republicans were so lame as to allow the Dems such a campaign issue that they will have if the do not allow Bolton and others to testify in the impeachment trial. Allowing witnesses is supported by 75% in a poll this week. Not allowing was only supported by 20%. The Dems knew they would not have the votes for removing Trump so their strategy was to hopefully have them deny witnesses which they will likely do. DUMB DUMB DUMB

"On week two of the Senate impeachment trial of President Donald Trump, registered voters say 75 - 20 percent that witnesses should be allowed to testify in the impeachment trial, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN- uh-pea-ack) University national poll released today. Support for witness testimony includes 49 percent of Republicans, 95 percent of Democrats, and 75 percent of independents.

"There may be heated debate among lawmakers about whether witnesses should testify at the impeachment trial of President Trump, but it's a different story outside the Beltway. Three-quarters of American voters say witnesses should be allowed to testify, and that includes nearly half of Republican voters," said Quinnipiac University Poll Analyst Mary Snow. "

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/28/politics/quinnipiac-impeachment-poll-witnesses/index.html

George Rebane

PaulE 227pm - Paul, so many celebratory events have happened to you since Trump became president (and they continue to pour in daily), I am at a loss to explain how you can contain yourself. The pressure to let it all out must be overwhelming; I understand that dancing in the street with the like-minded is an excellent purgative for pent up joy. Since the Repubs give me and mine so little to brag about, is there a time and place where we can bring chairs and watch the happy dancing? It might also be good therapy for us unrequited freedom-loving capitalists.

Bill Tozer

Looks like someone opened up their lemonade stand with fresh squeezed lemons. That’s the spirit.

No worries. The voters will crush Trump and the R’s. There, all better now.

Paul Emery

I just can't believe they are doing this George? The concept has only 20% support. Are you actually applauding the Repubs move as if it was smart and intelligent move?

Paul Emery

I mean even Fox New's paid legal analyst speaks against the move

"“If the Senate is faithful to the Constitution, then Trump’s trial will be a search for the truth,” he concludes. “And those offering to tell the truth should be welcomed, not pilloried. How can the Senate be faithful to the Constitution if it suppresses the truth?”"

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/fox-news-legal-analyst-senate-republicans-are-suppressing-the-truth-if-they-dont-call-john-bolton/

Todd Juvinall

Looks like Gallup just came out with a poll that will make Pau;l Emery cry.

Witnesses? We don't need any stinking witnesses. As far as a campaign issue later? No problem defending the vote on that. It is the democrats that will be pilloried for their vote and their failure to get more witnesses and their constituency will punish them for failing and allowing the R's to kick their ass. Just can hardly wait for all this. And next are the caucuses and we will see who the dems get. Trump is there in Des Moines right now and the rally will be huge,.

Paul Emery

Can you send me a link to the Poll Todd. Much appreciated

George Rebane

Here's the Gallup polling results also shown on FN this afternoon.
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS867US867&sxsrf=ACYBGNT3S3y9qwQB_XfOCiirJ1VFCVGktg:1580431074891&q=gallup+poll+on+trump+today&tbm=nws&source=univ&tbo=u&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj9hL7GzKznAhVNXK0KHaEtDl4Qt8YBKAF6BAgGEC4&biw=1463&bih=802

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 30 January 2020 at 04:04 PM


Another Punch Emery special........Jeez George, all the popular kids think it's a mistake! I can't believe that you don't think so too!


The argument of the teenaged girl!


Don Bessee

Getting back to the root of the rancid Russian dressing hoax they finally admit it was their purchase -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/30/house-democrats-steele-dossier-was-ok-because-we-purchased-it/

;-)

scenes

I just have to post that first paragraph from Donb's 5:34

"House impeachment manager Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) told the Senate on Thursday that the so-called “Steele dossier” paid for by Democrats against then-candidate Donald Trump was not improper foreign interference in the 2016 election because they “purchased” it."

Sometimes you just have to hold your head at the audacity of Team Blue.

Even Paul, not voting for Obama the second time and all, should be amazed.

Walt

Does the Buzzard of Broad St. Really think Trump is to be removed? 🤣 Did the Proggys he shine shoes for even make a case?🙄🤷‍♂️ (That would be a big fat NO)
Seems Emery has been hearing what the Proggy Press has been shilling way too long.
Since Emery is such an expert on this all of a sudden, then HE can explain in detail how Trump is a supposed dictator. And even a self imposed monarch.( That's what his hero Nadless claimed)

Send in the 420TH Cricket deviation to answer those Emery.

Brace yourself for Trump's acquittal Emery, I'm sure the Proggy Press is telling you he getting tossed.

Walt

OH Emery!! Your soulmate is really pissed.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/30/nancy-pelosi-attacks-trumps-lawyers-suggests-they-should-be-disbarred/

"Despite indications that acquittal is virtually certain at this point, Pelosi has also declared that any Senate vote to acquit the president would be invalid unless new witnesses were called to testify. “He will not be acquitted. You cannot be acquitted if you don’t have a trial; and you don’t have a trial if you don’t have witnesses and documentation,” she claimed."

Who died and made her Queen?

Walt

That's how you do it. Warren pisses off Judge Roberts, and Schiffty has to to make nice and kiss Robert's behind. And sure used plenty of tongue.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/sen-elizabeth-warren-john-roberts-impeachment-question-about-legitimacy-of-chief-justice
"Roberts read her question from the card -- which referenced him.

"At a time when large majorities of Americans have lost faith in government, does the fact that the chief justice is presiding over an impeachment trial in which Republican senators have thus far refused to allow witnesses or evidence contribute to the loss of legitimacy of the chief justice, the Supreme Court, and the Constitution?" Roberts read from the card handed to him by the clerk.

And now for Schiffty's ass kissing.
"When he finished reading the question -- explicitly posed to the House Impeachment managers -- Roberts pursed his lips and shot a chagrined look.

After a moment, Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., the lead impeachment manager, appeared at the dais to answer the question -- standing mere feet in front of Roberts.

Schiff appeared to try to distance himself from Warren's question, offering a short answer to the question before speaking at length about a tangential exchange."

Bill Tozer

Oh yeah. I love Walt doing his Walt thing with vigor. And I love the angry Ted Cruz. Welcome back Walt. Crabspatch has been going through so many personalities he could pose for the family reunion photo all by his lonesome. Their daddy issues have been breaking out in hives all over themselves. Tragic what they have been reduced to. I heard the gasps from draining swamp. Not a pretty sight to witness.

MSNBC Pundit: If Acquitted, Trump Will ‘Shut Down Voting’ in California!

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kyle-drennen/2020/01/30/msnbc-pundit-if-acquitted-trump-will-shut-down-voting-california

Oh, the drama, the drama. The horror, the horror.........

Don Bessee

It looks like schiff for brains has disheartened their base. HAHA!! -

Bloomberg) -- Less than half of Democrats are confident their party’s candidate will win the presidency this year, a stark contrast to Republicans who were overwhelmingly positive about President Donald Trump’s chances, a national survey released Thursday found.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-fret-over-beating-trump-153459646.html

;-)

Walt

Hey Don!! "jon" is posting on that one.

Don Bessee

Hey Walt, perhaps that wailing in NC was from some lefties who saw the poll!!

;-)

Don Bessee

Would you look at that -


Romney Asks: Do You Have *Any* Evidence Anyone Was Directed by Trump to Tell Ukraine Aid Withheld over Biden Investigation?


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/30/trump-schiff-sweating-like-a-dog-because-hes-losing-impeachment/

;-)

Don Bessee

Well that looks to be the end -

Key swing-vote GOP Sen. Alexander comes out against witnesses, paving way for imminent Trump acquittal

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-republicans-do-or-die-moment-pivotal-vote-impeachment-vote

;-)

scenes

From BillT's link:

“Imagine Donald Trump deciding sometime in June, ‘Well, I heard this conspiracy theory that a lot of illegal immigrants voted in California, so I’ve decided that during the presidential election California has to undergo extreme vetting because we can’t trust their votes. We’re going to shut down voting in a state.’”

“This is literally the kind of thing he will do now. We’re not talking hypotheticals anymore.”


ROFLMAO. It's a beautiful thing. It's like kids telling ghost stories.

Oh well, at least we'll have a good lookin' queen.

Sen. Paul asks his question. Excitement reigns.

My wager of the day. Either sometime right before the Senate vote or right after, the Democrats will get up and vacate the chamber in some sort of solidarity move.

Don Bessee

Piker, shrillary dumped a bil five for all the good it did her. I am sure the bernire bros and fauxcahantas minions will work hard for that old nanny state, stop and frisk apologist billionaire!!! NOT!

https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/bloomberg-has-already-dropped-more-than-100-million-on-trump-attack-ads-drudge/

;-)


George Rebane

Well, now that we know the Dems admit and believe that foreign influences of our elections are legitimate as long as they are bought and paid for with non-govt funds, does anyone know what the Federal Election Commission has to say about using political contributions to make such payments?

scenes

This really has been a pretty decent week.

Nigel Farage's dramatic final speech at the European Parliament ahead of the Brexit vote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIgmfpHBiDw

Scott O

Bill T, scenes - re Trump "shutting down the voting in CA".
Isn't that all the left ever has? It's always what 'will happen'.
The climate, at the border, in Iran, at the White House - these spittle-blowing blowhards constantly warn of what 'will happen'.
That it never does seems to be of no concern. Just offer some kind of brand new horror that 'will happen'.
That's the problem with calling him 'literally Hitler'.
Once you've put yourself in that box, all you have left is mindless ranting.
Meanwhile, over at places like National Review - there's plenty of grounded criticism of Trump, but the left can't use any of that because they've branded NR to all be a bunch of NAZIs.
If the economy sours and the Dems can figure out how to run a candidate like Tulsi Gabbard, I think they can win.
There's still plenty of time for a lot to happen.

odlaw

Posted by: George Rebane | 30 January 2020 at 09:58 PM

'''Well, now that we know the Dems admit and believe that foreign influences of our elections are legitimate as long as they are bought and paid for with non-govt funds, does anyone know what the Federal Election Commission has to say about using political contributions to make such payments?'''

,,,What is the basis for this statement???

Bill Tozer

The Trial of Donald J. Trump: Day 10

*NYT's Gay Warns, 'Too Late' for Democracy; Without Bolton, We're No Better Than Venezuela!

*MSNBC FREAKS Over ‘Jim Crow’ GOP Engaging in a ‘Cover Up’; ‘Very Scary’ Time in America

*MSNBC's Melber: Is Trump 'Darth Vader’ or ‘the Worst Stormtrooper?'

*CBS Sees Dems’ ‘Worst Nightmare’ Coming True as Senate Trial Flounders

* News That Trial Might Skip Witnesses Sends Celebs on Obscene Twitter Rants

*Teen Vogue: Trump Should Be Impeached for ‘Racism and Islamophobia’

* Jimmy Kimmel Melts Down Over Removing ‘Stupid Ape,’ ‘Bastard’ Trump’

https://www.newsbusters.org/

Meanwhile, back at the Senate

odlaw

,,,Billy,,,did you see Lamar Alexander's statement???

...something about overwhelming evidence against Trump???

George Rebane

ODlaw 800am - Schiff’s answer to a question yesterday where he explained that Trump’s alleged solicitation of Ukraine’s (non)interference was totally different from the Hillary/DNC commissioning of foreign agents constructing a false dossier, because the latter was OK since it was paid for by non-government funds. I take it that your lamestream outlets cut out that part of the Senate’s Q&A session.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/fbi-releases-documents-showing-payments-trump-dossier-author-steele-n897506
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/01/24/the_rampant_hypocrisy_of_the_democratic_party_142225.html

Bill Tozer

Lamar Alexander’s statement

Which one odlao? The one that made VOX and CNN wet their beds?

“CNN Suffers MELTDOWN After Alexander Says He'll Oppose Witnesses”. Oh my, I hope their exploding heads don’t make a mess of the studio.

Let’s see what Lamar has been saying, shall we?
https://twitter.com/SenAlexander/status/1223093577145864194?
————————
I don’t know why I even follow the Senate Trail. Everybody knows how it ends. Like watching a movie and you know the ending, but you turn it on anyway as background noise.

Bill Tozer

Geez odlar, clean your glasses or have your eyeballs checked.

From Don B’s 5:34 pm. I am getting weary of babysitting.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/30/house-democrats-steele-dossier-was-ok-because-we-purchased-it/

Scott O

Bill T 9:07 - Pretty much how I view the whole mess. Except I don't even run it in the background. A lot of sturm und drang from both sides with everyone taking the exact opposite tack from the last impeachment.
There's no crime and the Dems don't have the votes in the Senate.
Of course, the talking heads all think this is the most earth-shattering event and our 'democracy' is in peril....so sleepy, Zzzzzzzz

scenes

BillT@8:11AM Yer newsbusters references (and a single digression from the thread topic)

I looked back through those and was struck by a thing that I noticed in the past.

WTH is 'Teen Vogue'? You've got what I suppose is a young female fashion/celebrity worship magazine with stories like:

Mass Shootings Are Connected to America’s Legacy of Anti-Indigenous Violence
The Massachusetts candidate is as an immigrant, Muslim, and sexual violence survivor.
We Should've Impeached Trump for His Racism and Islamophobia
Trump Is Endangering the Lives of Thousands of Climate Refugees
Trump Attacked a CNN Anchor Who Laughed at Him on Air
As an Iranian American, I Can’t Move On From What Trump Did in Iran
Ilhan Omar Is Clowning Trump With Her Re-Election Campaign
Central American Youth Like Me Are Fleeing and Fighting Desperation


etc. Something is odd here. Not only is there that Blue Mob kind of old time religion going on, but it's really heavy on Islamic interests.

A person could go down a real rat hole of money flow looking for neferious doings, but I expect that the barrier to entry is low enough on the internet that it can shrug off the more ham-handed variants.

Bill Tozer

Boring.

Watch Dem Impeachment Managers Give Murkowski The Middle Finger When She Asks About Witnesses
JANUARY 30, 2020

“Alaska Republican Sen. Lisa Murkoski posed a relevant question to the Democratic House impeachment managers Tuesday night, and the prosecutors refused to offer an answer.

Murkoski asked why House Democrats declined to push subpoenas for witnesses they now say are vital to testify during the impeachment trial when the House intelligence and judiciary committees were given such power after an official impeachment inquiry was authorized.“

https://thefederalist.com/2020/01/30/watch-dem-impeachment-managers-give-murkowski-the-middle-finger-when-she-asks-about-witnesses/

fish

Posted by: scenes | 31 January 2020 at 09:27 AM


Mass Shootings Are Connected to America’s Legacy of Anti-Indigenous Violence
The Massachusetts candidate is as an immigrant, Muslim, and sexual violence survivor.
We Should've Impeached Trump for His Racism and Islamophobia
Trump Is Endangering the Lives of Thousands of Climate Refugees
Trump Attacked a CNN Anchor Who Laughed at Him on Air
As an Iranian American, I Can’t Move On From What Trump Did in Iran
Ilhan Omar Is Clowning Trump With Her Re-Election Campaign
Central American Youth Like Me Are Fleeing and Fighting Desperation
'Stop normalizing racism': Amid backlash, UC Berkeley apologizes for listing xenophobia under 'common reactions' to coronavirus


Yeah.....reads like a regular Sorosian fever dream.


Just kidding.....the last one is from the West Coasts electronic bird cage liner provider of record SFGate.com.


I enjoyed it almost as much as: CNN Calls Out U.S. Coronavirus Task Force for… Lack of Diversity?


https://pjmedia.com/trending/cnn-calls-out-u-s-coronavirus-task-force-for-lack-of-diversity/

scenes

BillT: "I don’t know why I even follow the Senate Trail. Everybody knows how it ends."

It'd be nice if it ended, but it's just one more act in the play. The coup leaders obviously know the results of the Senate trial, but you can simply expect this is just one more setup for the trial by mob.

It'll never end, so a certain amount of stoicism is expected.

"The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to look things in the face and know them for what they are."
- Mr. Aurelius

odlaw

Posted by: George Rebane | 31 January 2020 at 08:45 AM

,,,Give it up George,,,Trump used the power of the US Government to try to smear Biden...it wasn't money that was spent...it was withheld

,,,and of course,,,who hired Steele???

'''In October 2015, Fusion GPS was contracted by conservative political website The Washington Free Beacon to provide general opposition research on Trump and other Republican presidential candidates. In April 2016, an attorney for Hillary Clinton's campaign and the DNC separately hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump, while The Free Beacon stopped its backing in May 2016.[4] In June 2016, Fusion GPS subcontracted Steele's firm to compile the dossier. DNC officials denied knowing their attorney had contracted with Fusion GPS, and Steele asserted he was not aware the Clinton campaign was the recipient of his research until months after he contracted with Fusion GPS.[11][12] Following Trump's election as president, funding from Clinton and the DNC ceased, but Steele continued his research and was reportedly paid directly by Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn R. Simpson.[13] While compiling the dossier, Steele passed information to both British and American intelligence services.[14][15]'''

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steele_dossier

odlaw


Posted by: Bill Tozer | 31 January 2020 at 09:07 AM

,,,The House managers have proved this...

'''There is no need for more evidence to conclude that the president withheld United States aid, at least in part, to pressure Ukraine to investigate the Bidens; the House managers have proved this with what they call a ‘mountain of overwhelming evidence.’ There is no need to consider further the frivolous second article of impeachment that would remove the president for asserting his constitutional prerogative to protect confidential conversations with his close advisers.'''...Lamar A.

fish

Posted by: odlaw | 31 January 2020 at 10:06 AM

,,,Give it up George,,,Trump used the power of the US Government to try to smear Biden...it wasn't money that was spent...it was withheld


Yeah! Rookie mistake.....there was really no need, Biden is self-smearing!

Bill Tozer

Quotes

For the record: “John Roberts did nothing while the FISA court which he personally oversees illegally spied on an American citizen. He did nothing when DOJ determined the court was defrauded. But when a senator asked a question? Roberts shut that down. Twice. What a disgraceful coward.” —Sean Davis

Braying jenny: “I don’t know how [Trump’s attorneys] can retain their lawyer status, in the comments that they’re making. I don’t think they made the case. I think they disgraced themselves terribly in terms of their violation of what our Constitution is about and what a president’s behavior should be.” —House Speaker Nancy Pelosi

Moving the goalposts: “You cannot be acquitted if you don’t have a trial. You don’t have a trial if you don’t have witnesses and documentation and all of that.” —Nancy Pelosi

A blast from the past: “The Senate may dismiss articles of impeachment without holding a full trial or taking any evidence. Put another way, the Constitution does not impose on the Senate the duty to hold a trial. In fact, the Senate need not hold a trial even though the House wishes to present evidence and hold a full trial.” —Sen. Joe Biden, January 5, 1999

Non compos mentis: “It’s not a partisan impeachment. … Even if it was a party-line vote.” —Joe Biden

Hyper hyperbole: “We are watching the crowning of the president with Mitch McConnell holding the crown.” —Sen. Mazie Hirono

Grand delusions: “Imagine Donald Trump deciding, sometime in June, ‘Well, I heard this conspiracy theory that a whole lot of illegal immigrants voted in California. So, I’ve decided that, during the presidential election, California has to undergo extreme vetting.’ This is literally the kind of thing he will do now. We’re not talking hypotheticals, anymore.” —MSNBC pundit Jason Johnson

Non sequitur: “January 31, 2020: Britain withdraws from Europe and America withdraws from the Constitution.” —University of Virginia professor Larry Sabato

And last… “Democrats embarked on an effort doomed to failure from the start, and [they’re] now shocked and outraged that it failed.” —Rich Lowry

Bonus:

Insight: “A bureaucrat is the most despicable of men, though he is needed as vultures are needed, but one hardly admires vultures whom bureaucrats so strangely resemble. I have yet to meet a bureaucrat who was not petty, dull, almost witless, crafty or stupid, an oppressor or a thief, a holder of little authority in which he delights, as a boy delights in possessing a vicious dog. Who can trust such creatures?” —Marcus Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC)

Bill Tozer

odlaj @ 10:06 am

Circling back to Russia and defending the DNC again, eh? No worries, little buddy, Trump will not grab your pussy.

What is wrong with odlao? Damn those vultures on his headboard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRu_-9MBpd4&feature=emb_logo

Paul Emery

The Repubs are such suckers for Trump. Americans overwhelmingly want witnesses.

"Do you think the Senate should call new witnesses to testify at the impeachment trial, or do you think it should decide the impeachment case without calling new witnesses to testify?"

1/20-23/20

Call new 66
Not call new 27
unsure 7

http://www.pollingreport.com/

Paul Emery

poll cited

ABC News/Washington Post Poll. Jan. 20-23

Walt

It's just about over cept for the whining crying and bitching from Emery and Odie.. And Cross bob.
The LIB gas bags are deflating like a long smelly creatine FART. " Trump's acquittal ain't legit!! (nevermind we really didn't want witnesses.. They really would make us look bad)
Guess they didn't need Boltin to testify that bad. Sure could not have Schiffty testify. That would be perjury deluxe.
Biden would gaff the truth out. Hunter? "Uh,, ask Pops."..

Yup, a whole new kind of buttsore is about to be lanced, and left as an open wound.

Bill Tozer

Meme

https://patriotpost.us/cartoons/28197

The groundhog sez: Four more years of Trump.

Walt

HI Emery!! You have answers for last night's' questions?
I'm sure your enjoying all that Trump WINNING!!!!!!!

Gregory

Paul, I agree. I'd like to hear from witnesses such as the Bidens, Eric Ciaramella and Adam Schiff.

Walt

Oh... FAKE NEWS POLL again?

Bill Tozer

Meanwhile of at the Senate, the air just got let out of the ball. First Lamar and now the Alaskan.

“Murkowski comes out against impeachment witnesses, putting Trump on path to acquittal”

Walt

Just think how thin Naddless would be if all that gas broke loose when the acquittal vote comes down.

Bill Tozer

Resist! Never give up. A winner never quits and a quitter never wins!

I see the Lamestream is taking the news rather good.

*Chuck Todd Fears ‘Risk’ of Dems ‘Folding Too Quickly’ on Impeachment

*MSNBC UNRAVELS: Acquitting Trump Is Like Letting Wife Beater Go! ‘Too Late’ for Truth

*NOW, NY Times Touts Romney As a Man of the People (Forget Their Sliming in 2012)
———
SEN. CHRIS MURPHY: ‘SPEAKER PELOSI IS RIGHT, THIS CAN’T BE A REAL ACQUITTAL’
‘This is going to be an enormous stain on the United States Senate, if today goes as expected’

(Well, it’s going exactly as expected)

https://news.grabien.com/story-sen-chris-murphy-speaker-pelosi-right-cant-be-real-acquittal
——-

Paul Emery


Sure Gregory, lets call them all. I agree

fish

UNBELIEVABLE......LOOKS LIKE PUNCH EMERY CONNECTS ON A LAST MINUTE HAIL MARY PASS TO THE TRUMP 17 YARD LINE........A QUICK FIELD GOAL AND WE GO TO OVERTIME IN THIS YEARS IMPEACHMENT BOWL.

Back after these messages......!


Impeachment Trial Extended Until Wednesday; Murkowski A 'No' Despite NYT's Latest Bolton 'Bombshell'


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/friday-trump-acquittal-eyed-after-lamar-alexander-says-no-witnesses-collins-roasted-over

odlaw

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 31 January 2020 at 10:34 AM

,,,Circling back to Russia and defending the DNC again, eh? No worries, little buddy, Trump will not grab your pussy.

Was that for George??? He brought up Steele, Russia, DNC...

Paul Emery


gregory

The Senate could have called the Bidens, whistleblower, Bolton or any else whenever they wanted to. Why didn't they?

Bill Tozer

Fish @ 11:18 am

Sad, but true. The Dems (and Green Libertarians) are always the last to know. It’s over, but I don’t have the heart to break it to them. One must think of others.

fish

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 31 January 2020 at 11:33 AM


You need to keep fighting until the end!

odlaw

,,,Impeachment postponed,,,

Sleep well Trumpski!!!

One Superbowl and one State of the Union Trump BS speech and back to work in the Senate!!!

odlaw

,,,good news!!! Trump can blame the Dow drop and economic bad news on the disease ridden Chinks!!!

fish

Posted by: odlaw | 31 January 2020 at 11:39 AM


How's that Tapeworm in your head dugsKKKi......probably should have that looked at!?


https://www.ajc.com/news/health-med-fit-science/man-intense-headaches-caused-tapeworm-his-brain/0Xt8F4xmU0LcA2qlaxuVYM/

Bill Tozer

Boring. They are always the last to know. Opps, Schiffilis knows, we know, everybody knows except those who watch The Enemy of the People.
No, that dress does not make your ass look fat. It’s your ass that makes your ass look fat.

“The News They Won’t Report
And how it could help put Trump back in the White House come November”

“Reports indicate Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell believes he has the votes to bring this impeachment to a swift conclusion. But the problems caused by bias in the media will continue, and Democrats will suffer most of anyone because of those problems. Simple question: Why did Nancy Pelosi believe this impeachment would succeed? Isn’t it because she believed the media would help her drive Trump from office? But she couldn’t get a single House Republican to vote for impeachment, and the Senate trial has been a debacle for Democrats. Headlines like “Schiff Throws Temper Tantrum About His Staff Getting ‘Smeared’ by Reports on the ‘Whistleblower’ ” (PJ Media) and “Top 8 Reasons Trump Already Won Impeachment” (The Federalist) suggest what a disaster Pelosi led her party into. But CNN’s dwindling audience has no idea, because Jake Tapper won’t tell them. Who will tell them? The president of the United States, that’s who.

https://spectator.org/the-news-they-wont-report/


fish

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 31 January 2020 at 11:47 AM


No, that dress does not make your ass look fat. It’s your ass that makes your ass look fat.


Well now you've done it Bill.......Punchy's going to go on another rant about why women don't post here!

Bill Tozer

odlaj @ 11:39 am

Please post your unrelated to ‘Meanwhile Back At The Senate’ comments in the proper place under the proper post.

Focus, odlab, focus.

PS: Fish can get away with it because he, like moi, are teacher’s pets. Yes, it ain’t fair.

Now, take your comments to where they belong. Git.

Bill Tozer

John Solomon:

Joe Biden’s ‘conspiracy theory’ memo to U.S. media doesn’t match the facts

“The memo by Biden campaign aides Kate Bedingfield and Tony Blinken specifically warned reporters covering the impeachment trial they would be acting as “enablers of misinformation” if they repeated allegations that the former vice president forced the firing of Ukraine’s top prosecutor, who was investigating Burisma Holdings, where Hunter Biden worked as a highly compensated board member.”

https://johnsolomonreports.com/joe-bidens-conspiracy-theory-memo-to-u-s-media-doesnt-match-the-facts/

Oh, this is old news for those of us in the know.

No worries. Linsey Grahmn is hot on the trail and his Senate Committee will be looking into American citizens corruption in the post-impeachment era with all the vigor he can muster.

George Rebane

PaulE 1130am - Because the House presented them with an impeachment case already buttressed by "overwhelming" evidence. Therefore continuing the Dems' Hail Mary investigation into the Senate trial is not necessary. Next question.

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