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29 January 2020

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Paul Emery

George

My question is why the Senate Republicans didn't just call the Biden's, whistle blower etc to enhance their case and influence public opinion which looks pretty grim when it comes to allowing witnesses. also it's pretty much 50-50 when it comes to impeachment conviction which is not very good compared to public opinion on Clinton for example. Public opinion of the Repubs was pretty low two years ago with the House taking 41 seats. What indication do you have that it has changed from less than two years later?

Walt

Your the one with all the answers Emery,, so YOU tell us.
Run out of crickets for us to kill?

Bill Tozer

Looks like the democrats are gathering together and planning not to accept the results of the Senate trial.


What a surprise. At least they are consistent.


Walt

Bill. They can piss and moan all they like. Trump stays President.
That "overwhelming evidence" ain't so overwhelming.
Even Emery can't show where it holds water.

Don Bessee

The pony tail of ignorance needs to direct his questions to botox Nancy and schiff for brains as to why they failed to properly do their job as prosecutors in the house.

Could the reason they didn't subpoena Bolton was they knew it would set up a separation of powers court case that did not fit their rush to judgment dog and pony show? LOL

;-)

Walt

The ulterior motive.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/31/house-democrats-ask-senate-for-one-week-for-witnesses-documents/
"Alternatively, the “one week” offer also provided Democrats with a simple request that, if denied, could be used as evidence that the House impeachment managers had been willing to compromise with Republicans.

House Democrats did not, however, explain how the “one week” offer would fit into the cramped political schedule for next week. Following Super Bowl LIV on Sunday, the presidential primary process kicks off Monday with the Iowa caucuses. On Tuesday, President Donald Trump is scheduled to deliver the State of the Union address — thanks to Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), herself who invited him."

"One week" for extra dirty tricks.

Bill Tozer

"What indication do you have that it has changed from less than two years later?"

Have you Shane the clown car lately? The best thing going for the democrats is keeping the focus on impeachment and off those hideous unexciting boring creatures that they called their candidates.

Keep the focus on impeachment. The democrats are looking for love in all the wrong places with the voters.

George Rebane

PaulE 1241pm - Paul, had you been paying attention to the "overwhelming" evidence the Dems have been describing, and then the Repubs Saturday massacre of their entire case, then you'd know that there was no need tor the defense to "enhance their case", the Dems had already enhanced it enough for acquittal.

odlaw

'''The Nuclear Option: Bring on the Witnesses to Expose the Democrats'''

Yes!!! Please!!! Expose the Democrats!!!

But wait,,,it is not the Demos who don't want witnesses it is Trump and his Clowncar lawyers...

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/31/the-nuclear-option-bring-on-the-witnesses-to-expose-the-democrats/

odlaw

'''Kamala Harris: Trump ‘Cannot Prance Around Saying He’s Been Exonerated’ Without Witnesses'''

“I’m going to tell you something, he cannot get away with— and none of us should allow him to prance around saying he’s been exonerated when there has not been a fair trial. I’ll repeat myself there can be no true exoneration if there has not been a fair trial period.”

,,,Yep, Impeached Forever!!!

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/01/31/kamala-harris-trump-cannot-prance-around-saying-hes-been-exhortation-without-witnesses/

fish

'''Kamala Harris: Trump ‘Cannot Prance Around Saying He’s Been Exonerated’ Without Witnesses'''


I guess the collective unconscious decided that Kamala really was too stupid for the Oval Office!


Why didn't the house call Bolton and Mulvaney Keach? Are the dems fuck ups or something? What gives?

odlaw

Posted by: fish | 31 January 2020 at 01:53 PM

If you spent less time blowing bubbles you might know a thing...

Trump's legal team has repeatedly argued that the Senate should not vote to hear testimony from John Bolton, Trump's former national security adviser. Patrick Philbin, deputy counsel to the President, claimed that House Democrats, "didn't even subpoena John Bolton, below. They didn't even try to get his testimony."

Facts First: Philbin was technically correct that House Democrats didn't subpoena Bolton — but he was incorrect that "they didn't even try to get his testimony."

Democrats formally asked Bolton on Oct. 30 to voluntarily testify on Nov. 7.

Bolton did not show up — because the White House had told current and former officials not to participate in the impeachment inquiry. As Rep. Adam Schiff, the Democrats' lead impeachment manager, explained in his subsequent remarks following Philbin's assertion, Democrats decided not to subpoena Bolton because they were concerned about how long the resulting court battle would likely take.

Trump's team is within its rights to argue that Democrats did not try hard enough to get Bolton to testify, but "didn't even try" is not true.

Trump made a similar claim on Twitter on Monday. You can read a full fact check here.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-impeachment-trial-01-29-20/h_0fa1452318c3d451f721cea2defd5d55ttps://www.cnn.com/2020/01/27/politics/trump-false-claim-democrats-subpoena-bolton-testify-fact-check/index.html

odlaw

Democrats call for Mulvaney, Bolton to testify in Senate's Trump impeachment trial
Democrats outlined their plan for the trial, which will come in January.
By
Mary Bruce
and
Mark Osborne
December 15, 2019, 5:27 PM
4 min read

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democrats-call-mulvaney-bolton-testify-senates-trump-impeachment/story?id=67747734

Walt

CNN Dougy? Commie News Network. They tell you what YOU want to hear.(fake news)

odlaw

,,,another one for the trash fish...

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2019/11/07/house-democrats-subpoena-white-house-chief-staff-mulvaney-impeachment-probe/NkCJpyeQR3Ie0ZBB84bhJN/story.html

odlaw

,,,PO OL brainwashed Walt,,,you are so ignorant I am surprised you have survived as long as you have...

odlaw

,,,here you dimwits go,,,from your own propaganda outlet...

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/08/mick-mulvaney-to-defy-subpoena-for-testimony-in-impeachment-probe/

fish

Posted by: odlaw | 31 January 2020 at 02:00 PM

Trump's team is within its rights to argue that Democrats did not try hard enough to get Bolton to testify, but "didn't even try" is not true.

Trump made a similar claim on Twitter on Monday. You can read a full fact check here.


Well your first error is mentioning CNN and "fact check" in the same post. Second how is it Trumps problem if it's going to take a while to resolve the issue?

Facts First: Philbin was technically correct that House Democrats didn't subpoena Bolton — but he was incorrect that "they didn't even try to get his testimony."

Democrats formally asked Bolton on Oct. 30 to voluntarily testify on Nov. 7.

And it looks like he waited to just before his book release to get cooperative. Again, so what.....democrats don't call the shots in the senate so why don't you just stop whining about it!

odlaw

,,,bubbles blower and brainwashed Wally,,,

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/08/dems-pull-subpoena-for-ex-trump-adviser-who-took-it-to-court-lawsuit-would-delay-impeachment/

scenes

Jeez louise, this is a bummer.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/31/murkowski-to-vote-against-calling-witnesses-in-impeachment-trial-109997

"Sen. Lisa Murkowski will not support hearing new witness testimony, virtually ensuring a Democrat-led effort to subpoena additional witnesses and documents in President Donald Trump’s impeachment trial is headed to defeat."

You know, if you just called enough witnesses, fired up enough wiretaps, paid off or threatened enough informants, some sketchy evil-doing might pop out. Just fish and fish and fish.

One of the great ironies of our age is that the Trump administration is, by far, the most transparent administration in history. Not that he wanted that of course, but it's not such a bad thing that voters have a more jaundiced view of our rulers, whoever they may be.

fish

Posted by: odlaw | 31 January 2020 at 02:07 PM


So why didn't Mulvaney show Keach? The article never explained it (that I saw).

odlaw

,,,more on Bolton...

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/11/9/20956649/john-bolton-impeachment-inquiry-trump-lawsuit-mick-mulvaney

fish

Posted by: odlaw | 31 January 2020 at 02:12 PM


Sorry dugsKKKi......if it was important enough to start the process why be so impatient about getting through it!

Why rescind subpoenas?

Oh yeah......you guys wanted to get to conviction directly!

Make it a real Soviet style show trial!

odlaw

'''Mulvaney Will Defy House Impeachment Subpoena'''
Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, said he would obey President Trump’s order not to testify rather than seek a judge’s ruling first.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/12/us/politics/mulvaney-impeachment-subpoena.html

odlaw

'''John Bolton says he has new intel on Ukraine, but won’t testify without a court ruling'''

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/11/9/20956649/john-bolton-impeachment-inquiry-trump-lawsuit-mick-mulvaney

Don Bessee

The troll trips over the truth, it was rushed and screwed it up because they didn't want to do their job they just wanted to say they did it. LOL

;-)

odlaw

,,,another idiot tags in!!!

Bessie,,,I use Breitbart now so you need to find other propaganda outlets...

and you make zero sense...

fish

Posted by: odlaw | 31 January 2020 at 02:22 PM


I guess TEAM EVIL better get their lawsuit shoes on then!

fish

Posted by: odlaw | 31 January 2020 at 02:21 PM

Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, said he would obey President Trump’s order not to testify rather than seek a judge’s ruling first.


Well Okey Dokey then........

odlaw

,,,are you sufficiently humiliated about being schooled on your idiotic questions bubbles buddy???

scenes

From JHK's pen to your ear.

"What a fatal mistake, allowing Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) to make himself the face of the Democratic Party. They would have been better off with another scion of Hollywood: the Phantom of the Opera. This grubby seditionist has marched the party into a wilderness of deceit and knavery that taints them all, and when this grotesque impeachment episode is over, a new chapter of consequences will open that should leave the party for dead.

It’s hard to think of a more loathsome figure in US political history than Adam Schiff. General James Wilkinson? Senator Theodore Bilbo? Benjamin “Pitchfork” Tillman? Joseph McCarthy? Hillary Clinton? And that doesn’t count the mere rogues and rascals like Huey Long, Boss Tweed, and George Wallace. A universe of chaos lurks behind Mr. Schiff’s slick Tinseltown façade. The impeachment he led was crippled from the start with violations of process and errors of logic of exactly the kind that drives his party’s Woke hysteria with its assaults on free speech, its vicious “cancel” culture, its reckless race-hatred, its depraved Transsexual Reading Hours, and its neurotic obsession with Russian phantoms — a matrix of beliefs that would embarrass a conclave of medieval necromancers."
etc.

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/tales-from-the-crypt/

fish

Posted by: odlaw | 31 January 2020 at 02:27 PM

,,,are you sufficiently humiliated about being schooled on your idiotic questions bubbles buddy???


Schooled? dugsKKKi I'm only tangentially paying attention to the political porn that keep yours and Punchy's feeble old man peckers hard.

So no!

odlaw

,,,from the above exchange it is crystal clear that local Conservos are being spoon fed their news and info and only read those articles that fits with the '''truth''' being fed to them...

fish

Posted by: odlaw | 31 January 2020 at 02:33 PM


So we can be done having you leave your "helpful and interesting" little offerings here and get on with Trumps next four years?


Excellent!

Walt

Motion to subpoena!!!,, Bites the big one.
NO SALE... On witnesses.

Gregory

,,,from the above exchange it is crystal clear that local Demos are being spoon fed their news and info and only read those articles that fits with the '''truth''' being fed to them...

There... fixed it for ya!

Paul Emery


The Repubs took the bait-no witnesses, an extremely unpopular decision. After losing 41 seats in the midterms the Pubs are sinking lower and lower in the battle for public support.

The game is on.

Don Bessee

The game is over oh great pony tail of ignorance feeling the bern? LOL

;-)

odlaw

,,,I get it Gregory,,, if only it were true...

Have you been following along???

Bessie trolls with nonsense calling others trolls who are trying to make point ---Fail!!!

Walt trolls in with CNN is fake news so I have to go to Conservo sites to prove my links ---Fail!!!

Bubbles Buddy comes at me with some Rooskie bot BS regurgitation by Trump's lying clowncar lawyers and has to be edumucated as to the real story ---Hilarious Fail!!!

fish

Posted by: odlaw | 31 January 2020 at 02:55 PM

Bubbles Buddy comes at me with some Rooskie bot BS regurgitation by Trump's lying clowncar lawyers and has to be edumucated as to the real story ---Hilarious Fail!!!


Doug Keachie for the win! Looks like somebody gets extra applesauce at the group home tonight!

When I finally start babbling about “Rooskie bots” please just put me out of my misery !

Walt

Chucky "Cheesey" Schumer is as pissed as Oddie for not getting his sham witnesses. Besides. Bolton's statement on the phone call is already public knowledge. (No help for the Proglodites)

Gregory

It is true. It's painfully obvious you, ooddjob, in particular, don't read and pay attention to sources you find to be beneath you.

There's still shouting left for the left to do. Get to it.

odlaw

Posted by: Paul Emery | 31 January 2020 at 02:50 PM

,,,Yes Paul,,,Did anyone really believe the Conservo Senators would not be cowering in fear of Trump and vote against him???

One of the clowncar lawyers even read the latest Trump rally speech on the floor of the Senate!!! or Trump team is so lame they used the lawyers words...can you say '''Trump's new personal lawyer???'''

As Lamar Alexander said,,,the Demos proved beyond a doubt that Trumpski is scum...I paraphrased... and Lamar says he has enough info to vote...so he could vote to convict ---HA!!!

odlaw

Posted by: Gregory | 31 January 2020 at 03:05 PM

,,,Sorry Gregory,,,I use Breitbart, Fox, Vox, Washington Examiner, Federalist et al. and all the mainstream outlets...

...like an intruder against an idiot with a gun,,,I take their weapons away from them and use it against them --- Hilarious!!!

Walt

Your putting on a good show Oddie. Your taking the lose very well. Anything to try and save face. Kinda like the condemned
feigning braviary looking at the executioner's axe. (with a dull blade)

odlaw

Posted by: Walt | 31 January 2020 at 03:23 PM

,,,Sorry Walt,,,I think we both know how the election is going to go...Independents...who are actually independent thinkers...Demos... and maybe more disgusted Conservos might have had enough lies and bullcrap from the Orange man and kick him out of office...

fish

,,,Sorry Walt,,,I think we both know how the election is going to go...Independents...who are actually independent thinkers...Demos... and maybe more disgusted Conservos might have had enough lies and bullcrap from the Orange man and kick him out of office...



Kind of an unusual way of promising Trump 4 more years but OK.....!


Walt.....mark this down as dugsKKKis "..... mark the tape moment"!

odlaw

,,,at least a few still have some balls,,,

Rubio, Alexander, and Portman...

Exit question.. do fish have balls???

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/01/31/democrats-silver-lining-some-senate-republicans-least-agree-that-trump-did-it/

Walt

Sure Oddie,, only the likes of you(and Emery) would vote for the destruction of this record economy.
Yup, back to the unemployment line, waiting for the EBT card to get reloaded twice a month, selling the house for cents on the dollar. Just how do you plan on paying all those massive new taxes? Yup, they will apply to you too! That government mandated elec, ECO buggy will get you far in Ridgeratville.

But HEY!! You won't have Trump to keep the price of life down anymore. Enjoy.

Walt

",,,at least a few still have some balls,,,"
But your not one of them.

Walt

Oddie... That's what Presidents do.
Don't worry.. The very first LIB to get elected as President(sometime in the far future) will have the impeachment articles drawn up against him/her/it while the oath of office is being recited.(would be lying from the start)

Bill Tozer

My, my. Looks like I missed Mount Odlaj erupting. Warned ya’ll she was ready to blown. You could hear the rumblings growing louder and more frequent with pressure building for days. Darn, left for a few and I missed the Scanners moment.

Cleanup on Aisle 3.

I don’t know why the put Climate Crisis on the top of the list when we have the real bigger going on right now and nobody is paying attention. Go figure.

Montage. Oh, I just love montages.

https://news.grabien.com/story-supercut-trumps-inevitable-acquittal-not-going-over-well

odlaw

Posted by: Walt | 31 January 2020 at 03:57 PM

,,,Sure Wally,,,you mean like the Conjobs did with Clinton??? That '''crucial''' investigation went on for years and started before he was elected...flippin' hypocrite!!!

2ndchancebill@comcast.nel

Oh odlaa, Say it, don’t spray it. Now is to Clinton back in the nineties? Ok,

Joe Biden says no need for witnesses. I believe him.

“In January 1999, then-Sen. Joe Biden argued strongly against the need to depose additional witnesses or seek new evidence in a memo sent to fellow Democrats ahead of President Bill Clinton’s impeachment trial.” Bresnahan and Everett add: “The Biden campaign declined to comment.”

Quotable quote (from Biden memo): “In light of the extensive record already compiled, it may be that the benefit of receiving additional evidence or live testimony is not great enough to outweigh the public costs (in terms of national prestige, faith in public institutions, etc.) of such a proceeding. While a judge may not take such considerations into account, the Senate is uniquely competent to make such a balance.”

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/01/dems-then-now-biden-memo-edition.php

Boring.

odlaw

,,,The Progression of Wally's Friday afternoon...

Posted by: Walt | 31 January 2020 at 03:53 PM ---one hit of hooch --- EBT cards and ECO buggies

Posted by: Walt | 31 January 2020 at 03:54 PM ---two hits of hooch --- personal insults

Posted by: Walt | 31 January 2020 at 03:57 PM ---three hits of hooch --- threats of future conspiracies...

,,,Party on Dude!!!

Bill Tozer

So typical. Odlaf blaming the R’s because Schfty Schiff screwed up big time. Huge mistake made by the House. All because they wanted to be home for Christmas. I can see why odlax flies in formation with The Punch Drunk One.

I expected massive incoming, but it looks like it’s petering out. Maybe just a calm before the storm.

Man, they are all over the map today.

Walt

Poor Oddie.. Your buttsore is showing.. MAN.. It's baboon red, and the acquittal vote has yet to be taken! Need a case of Dr. J.D.Trump's buttsore creme? 9 out of 10 LIBS say it soothes that burnt brown eye.

scenes

BillT: "Montage. Oh, I just love montages." followed by a clip.

lol. They don't mean nuthin' by it. No doubt there was a meeting (isn't there always?), talking points assigned, everybody fans out to the various captive news shows to do their thing. Twas ever thus. If there's any outrage in their faces, it's from being made to look stupid by this whole situation, not any care about 'justice'.

Courtesy of reddit

a montage of salt.
https://i.redd.it/436n10frf6e41.png

Blast from the past.
https://i.redd.it/gpdn43ud35e41.jpg

In a nutshell
https://i.redd.it/4n46z0ykn5e41.jpg

Bill Tozer

IT’S ALL OVER BUT THE WHINING [UPDATED]
With Lamar Alexander and Lisa Murkowski announcing that they will vote against calling witnesses, the Senate’s impeachment proceeding nears an end. I thought they might actually vote tonight and bring the farce to a merciful conclusion, but apparently that isn’t happening. The New York Post offers a bipartisan explanation, but I suspect that part of what is going on is that the Democrats hope to extend the process beyond President Trump’s State of the Union speech on Tuesday.

Why? Why not? As the final vote approaches, we are reminded that the president’s acquittal in the Senate was always a foregone conclusion. It has never been clear how the Democrats will avoid looking silly when their scheme inevitably falls far short. I think a plurality of voters already believe the whole impeachment process has been a waste of time, and that conclusion will only become stronger when it ends in failure.

Our long national nightmare is about to end. Unless you’re a Democrat.

UPDATE: As expected, the Senate voted against calling witnesses, 51-49. Legislation has been introduced in Utah to permit recall of a sitting senator..

Quote, unquote.
———
Walt @ 4:28 pm
Very magnanimous of you to offer to turn odlam’s brown eye blue. You are indeed a humanitarian, my brother.

Bill Tozer

Just waiting for the Fat Lady to sing.

Impeachment Charade Almost Over?

What Paul endeavored to force Democrats to answer is precisely what Mark Alexander has asserted from the early days of this charade and reiterated Wednesday in his column, “Topping My Impeachment Witness List: Adam Schiff” — Schiff and his staff colluded with Ciaramella. “Schiff has coordinated the entire impeachment narrative and is its principal author and director. Thus, subjecting Schiff to Republican cross-examination would reveal his collusion with the ‘whistleblower’ — which would unravel the entire case against Trump.”

While Roberts blocked Paul’s question, he did read a similar one from Sen. Ron Johnson that asked about Schiff’s reported hiring of an individual who had contact with the whistleblower — a hiring that occurred the day after Trump’s phone call with the Ukrainian president. Schiff responded with righteous indignation suggesting that the question itself was a “smearing of the professional people that work for the Intelligence Committee” and that he “will not dignify those smears on my staff by giving them any credence whatsoever; nor will I share any information which I believe could or could not lead to the identification of the whistleblower.”

But Chief White House Counsel Pat Cipollone was having none of Schiff’s obfuscation. He argued, “So I think [the senators] deserve an answer to that question, and I think it’s time in this country that we stop assuming that everybody has horrible motives, in the puritanical rage of just everybody’s doing something wrong, except for you. ‘You cannot be questioned’ — that’s part of the problem here.”

https://patriotpost.us/articles/68277-impeachment-charade-almost-over-2020-01-31?


https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10157041693380914/?

George Rebane

What a glorious ending to the impeachment circus - both sides are deliriously happy with the outcome. Only our split Congress could pull off something like that - everyone wins!!

Don Bessee

Now that they failed to kill the king they get back to rigging the dem nomination like good ol' dems-

In conversations on the sidelines of a DNC executive committee meeting and in telephone calls and texts in recent days, about a half-dozen members have discussed the possibility of a policy reversal to ensure that so-called superdelegates can vote on the first ballot at the party’s national convention. Such a move would increase the influence of DNC members, members of Congress and other top party officials, who now must wait until the second ballot to have their say if the convention is contested.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/31/dnc-superdelegates-110083

;-)

Bill Tozer

Yes, Trump’s Acquittal Is Real, And It’s Spectacular

“The most amazing thing about Democrats and their allies in the media is that they never actually lose. Any time it seems like they lose, it’s actually the result of cheating and chicanery.

Hillary Clinton didn’t lose 2016, the Russians interfered and the Electoral College is racist. Stacy Abrams didn’t lose in Georgia, the election was stolen. And sure enough, the calls have already come out to say that House Democrats aren’t really going to lose the impeachment trial, because without additional witnesses the trial isn’t legitimate and the acquittal isn’t real.

Not this time. Mitch McConnell, President Trump’s legal team, and the GOP made fools of the Democrats and drank their milkshake. But this will not stop the aggrieved cackling heads from claiming this is all somehow fake.”

https://thefederalist.com/2020/01/31/yes-trumps-acquittal-is-real-and-its-spectacular/

Don Bessee

He is going to pay for telling the truth - WINNING!

CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin: 'Trump won' and 'that's how history will remember' this impeachment

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-jeffrey-toobin-trump-won-impeachment

;-)

Walt

Yup, now back to the business at hand. Screwing over Burnie with a rigged election.
Gotta love Socialist style candidate picking. Keep thinking your vote means something LIBS, HELL. Only two states really have a say who you will vote for as President wannabe. Well that's as long as they "vote" for the one your deep staters decide.
Venezuela.... American style.

fish

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 31 January 2020 at 05:11 PM


“The most amazing thing about Democrats and their allies in the media is that they never actually lose. Any time it seems like they lose, it’s actually the result of cheating and chicanery.

Hillary Clinton didn’t lose 2016, the Russians interfered and the Electoral College is racist. Stacy Abrams didn’t lose in Georgia, the election was stolen. And sure enough, the calls have already come out to say that House Democrats aren’t really going to lose the impeachment trial, because without additional witnesses the trial isn’t legitimate and the acquittal isn’t real.


This is the approach you have to take when a significant fraction of your constituency have the maturity of 14 year old girls.........cough, cough.... Roberta Cross... cough, cough.

Walt

Yes LIBS,, Bloomers can just buy his uh,, "nomination".
A true "brokered" convention.

Don Bessee

True dat -

Senate Votes Down Extra Impeachment Witnesses, Paves Way for Trump Acquittal

Top Democrats Humiliated

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/31/senate-votes-down-extra-impeachment-witnesses-paves-way-for-trump-acquittal/

;-)

Bill Tozer

Buck on his Twitter machine:

*“This impeachment was always a grotesquely dishonest partisan overreach that had no prayer of success and was destined to change the mind of not a single intelligent, honest observer

Go enjoy your weekend knowing the good guys won this round 🇺🇸“
——————
Buck gives advice:

“Don’t waste your time reading semi-rational new sites right now

Go right to the Left wing Democrat-socialist garbage dumps. They are far more entertaining at the moment. Check out Huffpo⬇️ 😂”

https://twitter.com/BuckSexton/status/1223387860738433024?

Walt

Stay tuned for the next exciting adventure of Wile E. Proggy.
How will Roadrunner Trump fry his ass in the next episode?
(My bet it the cliff breaks off for a LONG freefall)

scenes

re: Left Wing Democrat-Socialist Garbage Dumps

The Salt Must Flow Edition.

a good list w/plenty of news sites. Extra bonus is the tens of thousands of mewling folks.

https://old.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/ewx4f7/megathread_senate_votes_not_to_call_witnesses_in/


...for those who don't know, the reddit '/r/politics' subreddit is nearly all left wing democratic socialists, the quarantined and close-to-banned '/r/the_donald' subreddit is for the modern right. 'politics' is another one of those modern oddities, like the New York Times, in that a rather innocuous name represents a full-throated backing of a political philosophy. We are surrounded by newspeak.

Walt

Called it.. Well almost.
https://dailycaller.com/2020/01/31/bloomberg-dnc-debate/
"Several 2020 Democratic presidential candidates accused Michael Bloomberg of buying his way into the Democratic Party debates Friday after the Democratic National Committee announced changes to its debate-qualification thresholds that appear to benefit the former New York City mayor.

Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, businessman Tom Steyer and a spokesman for Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders all slammed the rule change"

Paul Emery

Bill quotes someone as saying

“The most amazing thing about Democrats and their allies in the media is that they never actually lose."

How about the Repubs losing the last Congressional less than two years ago by 41 seats? That was a true measure of support for Trump and it hasn't changed since then.

scenes

Paule: "How about the Repubs losing the last Congressional less than two years ago by 41 seats?"

lol. Did you even read his post?

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery | 01 February 2020 at 08:14 AM
So that must be equal to the 63 seats lost by the democrats in 2010 who were Obama fans? And you voted for that loser. Sorry your analogies are crap.

Walt

Morn'n poor memory Emery. Now why don't you go back and read your own posts from before the midterm.

But I'm sure your voting against all the great advances Trump has done. No need to answer that. That's a forgone conclusion.

Paul Emery

That was then Todd This is now.


Scenes
Are you saying Trump didn't lose the house in the last election?

Todd Juvinall

No Paul Emery you cannot pick and choose. You still attack GWB for his service and the Iraq war. We are aware you voted for Obama and love the crease in his pants. He was responsible for losing the most House seats ever in 2010. The democrats regained 41 in 2018. I think the NOW is NOW and you can cry all you want but we kicked your sorry ass a lot more than you did ours.

Walt

The Buzzard of Broad St. votes AGAINST American greatness.
Hates the advances Trump had made.
Wants a return to the Obummer economy.
You have pretty much shown you would like all of America be be as "F"ed as Kaliunicornia.
Anything to say for yourself Emery? Naaaa.. You went out and caught more crickets.

fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 01 February 2020 at 08:14 AM


The Punchybot ”nuance” subroutine is malfunctioning again!

Walt

BTW Emery,, Trump STAYS President.
Now remember.(if you can) Your swamp queen said," Losing the House is worth impeaching Trump."-N. Pelosi.

Seen the anger and vitrial coming out of your queen Emery?
MAN is she pissed Trump stays in office. Her kangaroo courts just got shown the door. Naddless and Schitt for brains threw way too many insults in, and at the Senate. Manufactured evidence didn't help.

scenes

fish: "The Punchybot ”nuance” subroutine is malfunctioning again!"

That's what I was thinking.

It's always possible that I misjudged him. Maybe it's just that he's not a native English speaker.

In the meantime, life goes on.
https://i.redd.it/ty8sbe1yvae41.jpg

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fish: "The Punchybot ”nuance” subroutine is malfunctioning again!"

That's what I was thinking.

It's always possible that I misjudged him. Maybe it's just that he's not a native English speaker.

In the meantime, life goes on.
https://i.redd.it/ty8sbe1yvae41.jpg

Paul Emery


Walt

Are you saying that Bolton is manufactured evidence?

Bill Tozer

I cannot believe I turn on RR to Punchy’s knee jerk reaction. It would be nice if Paul responded rather than react.

Paul, you don’t have to read my 5:11 pm link. You don’t have to do anything. But, it might behoove you to at least read the first three paragraphs of my 5:11 pm to get the context. Life is not all black and white, but to use a horrible metaphor, it’s 50 shades of gray.

During the Obama years (ending just 3 years ago), the R’s took back something like 1,150 federal, state, county, and municipal elected seats. The governorships that went R in that 6 year period (2010-2016) were most noteworthy.

I heard (not read) from someone reading breakdowns that the 2018 midterms resulted in almost half the Dem’s Obama era losses (from top to bottom) were won back by the Democrat Party. 600 plus seats. So, it took just two years under Orange Man Bad and under the Russian Collusion Delusion Witch-hunt Hoax for the Dems to claw back half their losses.

So, there is your bone for the day. Blame Trump for losing Statehouses and Congressional seats in 2018, including AB-15. They are still working hard on AR-15. There, all better now.

And yes, you should be dancing in the streets with the dumb stupid mind-numbed Senate R’s not calling for witnesses in the impeachment trial. They just committed suicide! It’s manna from heaven dropped in your lap, Paul. How fortunate for you. You hit the jackpot with a lot of help from the Senate R’s. Don’t they read the polls???
The Circle of Jerks has turned into a circular firing squad and the voters will crush the R’s at the ballot box come November. It’s your wet dream come true, Mr. Emery. The light at the end of the tunnel just got much bigger and brighter.

You won, we lost. You are big, we are small. You are many, we are few. We cannot do anything but accept our fate and hang our heads low in shame. At least we can show you how to accept losing.

Good thing Punchy does not do satire well. He has difficulty wrapping his head around it. Always has.

Paul Emery

Bill writes:

"The Circle of Jerks has turned into a circular firing squad and the voters will crush the R’s at the ballot box come November."

Well we agree on that Bill

Paul Emery

Todd

It was your guy Trump that called for Bush to be impeached for lying about the need for war yet you never say a word about that.

Bill Tozer

Yes Paul we agree!

As far as the impeachment goes, it’s over. Man is it ever. Sometimes there is a commenter here that is always the last to know. Strike ‘sometimes.’

It was our dear Gregory who had to break the news to Paul the last time...the Mueller Report.

“Do you deny that Mueller did not exonerate Trump?”...followed by hours and days of “Trump is NOT exonerated!!” and links. Do you deny Trump is not exonerated for Obstruction of Justice?. Here read this quote from Mueller’s statement. Do you deny he said that???!!!!!?????!!!”

Then, a solitary voice of reason appeared in a clear, conscience, and complete statement from Gregory:
“It’s over Paul”.

It’s over Paul. No Bolton , no what ifs. It’s a good day...unless you are a Democrat. Then you are still fighting the last war and the lost war.

I think we can live with that just fine. Friday the NYT dropped another bombshell. Another Hail Mary. Another missile that landed in the ocean.

It’s over, Paul.

Don Bessee

The po' ol' fakenewsman seems to forget the strategic victory in the senate that has changed the federal judiciary and brushed aside schiff for brains kangaroo congress games.

;-)

Bill Tozer

Yeah, Tood, what about BDS?

Yesterday was quite informative. Mt Odlar erupted and spewed out everything he was holding back and recircled the same barn a dozen times. Bill Clinton got screwed, the sites we read are Fakenews, we are dumb, corrupt in bed with Putin and on and on.

During the eruption, I heard shades of Roberta, shades of Punchy, shades of Michael P Anderson, shades of Steve’ s butt boy, shades of ‘M’, shades of them plus more all rolled up into one. Rather interesting.

Wouldn’t it be something if we only have one sock puppet here with multiple personalities...kind of schizo doing the Lord’s work.

Hmm, Odau disappears and Punchy emerges. Then Roberta emerges to give Punchy backup. The they disappear and the current Oldam emerges to do the heavy lifting. Suppose it is not a tag team, but a guy who goes to family reunions to pick up dates?

Excuse the diversion off topic, Dr. Rebane, but teachers’ pets can get away with it f not done too much. :)

Meanwhile back at the Senate, the custodians are cleaning up the Lying Sacks of Schiffs’ mess.

Bill Tozer

Meanwhile over at the Senate.....

While the Fakenews and Lefties are trying with everything they have to win arguments, while we are racking up victories. Truly, they are ‘Number Two!’ with a string of ‘winning’ arguments while not winning. Ok, I concede. They get the boobie prize, the door prize, and a seat in the audience. All we get is the speaker’s podium and the folks on stage.

Steven Frisch

First I have to say to those of you resting on the laurels being bestowed upon the Senate by your deplorable brethren, there is certainly another shoe to drop. If it does not drop between today and Wednesday at 1 pm (EST) when the Senate convenes to vote on removal, it will drop in the near future, exposing the Republican party for the sycophantic hot mess that it is.

Second, I believe that John Bolton, whose musings continue to leak out exposing the President as both a liar and a dangerous tyrant, has a tough choice to make over the next few days; will he be remembered as a patriotic defender of the Constitution, or a weak willed, self interested, fraud.

That Bolton disagreed with and opposed President Trump's extortion of Zelensky is clear--reported by multiple parties and in his won words--but will he speak?

Many years ago I read Robert S. McNamara's book "In Retrospect."

Halfway through the book I threw my arms up in disgust when I realized that while he was publicly supporting expansion of the war in Vietnam in private he was advocating for withdrawal because he had become convinced that the war could not be won.

In 1965 McNamara and McGeorge Bundy wrote President Johnson telling him "..."both of us are now pretty well convinced that our present policy can lead only to disastrous defeat.." which led to a dramatic escalation of the war and commitment of 280,000 troops over the next year. By 1966 McNamara was saying behind the scenes that the war likely could not be won and we should be finding the way out.

Here he was, a public official, a person in a position of serious trust, a man who sent more than another 300,000 young men to Vietnam after he had concluded it was a lost cause and before he finally left the administration in 1967, who failed to speak up, in front of Congress when he had the opportunity several times in 1966 and 1967, in public after he left, or for 30 years after.

John Bolton can be a patriot or he can be Robert McNamara....he can speak up now that he is out of office, or he can stay silent, and we will hear the first hand report in a book for $30 a pop in March.

President Trump, regardless of whether you like any other policies he advocates, is personally a weak, compromised, immature, intellectually challenged, self absorbed man child...he cares about nothing but his dick and his wallet...and in a crises he will crumble.

A crises will come and Americans will die because Trump is President.

Bolton has a choice...

Don Bessee

Here is the core of the problem for the frishy set who think in times of crisis he will crumble, not following the news much eh? -

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. (AP) — President Donald Trump thinks differently than any client he has ever had, often contradicting common wisdom and then seeing his way work out in the end, former White House counsel Don McGahn said Friday at a conference of conservative lawyers and scholars.
Others will tell the president that something is impossible. Nevertheless, the president will pursue it, “but then it works,” McGahn said at a conference of Florida chapters of The Federalist Society.

“He goes through a decision-tree faster than anyone I’ve seen, to get where he thinks the situation is going to go,” McGahn said during a question-and-answer format with Jan Crawford, CBS News' chief legal correspondent . “He thinks differently than anyone else I've represented."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-white-house-counsel-says-231540605.html

;-)

fish

Posted by: Steven Frisch | 01 February 2020 at 11:24 AM

A crises will come and Americans will die because Trump is President.

Bolton has a choice...


Really.....and this condition would be significantly different under a Clinton administration?

Steven Frisch

Posted by: Don Bessee | 01 February 2020 at 11:34 AM
Posted by: fish | 01 February 2020 at 11:41 AM

I think that what both of you miss, and that you and many other here are in complete denial about, is that a persons core character matters when a crises occurs....are they motivated by a higher purpose and values, or their dick and their wallet?

No amount of "whataboutsim" from fish, or the contention that the President is a superhuman mutant capable of rapid decision making, can make up for the fact that the President is functionally ignorant, reactionary and fearful.

A crises will happen and the gang here will be either making excuses for his behavior or rushing to wash the blood off their hands.


Paul Emery

Stephen writes:

"A crises will come and Americans will die because Trump is President."

That crisis is upon us-it's called global warming and wild fires

Steven Frisch

Not to mention the fact that one should never trust tough decisions to one who brags about not reading anything, who has such a low level of intellectual capacity that everything must be put into pictures or 30 second videos, and who communicates in the language and syntax of a 12 year old.

He is a complete fucking idiot....you are trusting our country in the hands of a child...children may make quick decisions but they are less commonly good decisions.

fish

Posted by: Steven Frisch | 01 February 2020 at 12:04 PM


Ok Steve! You will just need to prevail next November. Make a better selection than in 2016.

Paul Emery

sp: Steven

Yes he is an idiot and mentally ill as well. Anyone could ignore the reality of Global Warming is either an uneducated idiot or delusional at best.

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