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11 January 2020


Bill Tozer

Why Does New York's Bureaucracy Cost So Much More Than Florida's?


George Rebane

PaulE 1101am – You were among the very fortunates in the mid-60s. On the other hand, I as a just returned GI from active duty and a graduate engineer at a big aerospace company in 1965 was doing quite well with $4/hr ($8K/yr). You just explained why unions have taken a dump since then.

Re Odlaw 1150am – another example of a liberal losing the thread (BTW, this is a difficult blog to engage in; lots of complex topics hard to wrap your head around). What does such a comment have to do with Bernie’s lie as demonstrated by the Bureau of Labor Statistics data?

George Rebane

RobertC 1108am - Then who actually did save the 'pre-existing conditions' clause in the proposed revision to Obamacare? Dems don't count since they didn't propose any revision to Obamacare.

Bill Tozer

Well, no comments of the debate last night? Ok, be that way. Oh, wait. The debate is tonight, right? That’s right. Trump had a rally last night. Man, that place was having a fun time start to finish. Guess I will record tonight’’s Dem debate to see howTulsi and Bloomberg do.

Since Booker dropped out, that means Warren is the only black candidate on the stage.
Let’s do a Colombo here, Sherlock Holmes if you prefer:

Pocahontas said Bernie said a woman could never become POTUS. Now, I know Paul will say, “I believe her.” Anybody else? Is the burden of proof on the accused? Is Warren lying iris Bernie lying.

Take the challenge.



Posted by: George Rebane | 15 January 2020 at 03:00 PM

I am sorry you are having trouble understanding. There was never any mention of '''median income'' in my post or Bernie's quote given by Bessee.
Bessee quote...Senator Bernie Sanders falsely claimed in his closing remarks in the Democratic debate that half of the country was earning just $9 to $10 an hour.

$1.20hr is the difference between $22.80 and $21.60. That represents the MAGA dividend American workers have received according to your figures...

Bill Tozer

Hey Oddman Half-wit, check out this, genius. What, are you going to be like the Clown Car with half a mind to run for President? You are the poster boy for the post, Dumb and Dumber.

Need an oar so you have two?

@853am - For our leftists innumeracy is always an enduring curse. And blindly following their socialist demogauges doubles the deficit.

"The Bureau of Labor Statistics reported a median personal income of $865 weekly for all full-time workers in 2017. The U.S Bureau of the Census has the annual median personal income at $31,099 in 2016. Real per-capita disposable income was $45,646 as of October, 2019."

Before the full impact of Trump's economic surge, this computed to more than $21.60/hr. Even under Obama's anemic recovery the median wage came to $15.55/hr. And considering "real per-capita disposable (after tax) income" this is now effectively more than $22.80/hr for every worker who can fog a mirror. That is why I point out that the real and impactive Big Lies come from Democrats, especially from their leading lights like Bernie Sanders.

Posted by: George Rebane | 15 January 2020 at 10:22 AM


Posted by: Odlaw | 15 January 2020 at 03:24 PM

,,,Oh,,, and George,,,

Don't forget to factor in 2.0 for inflation... and also factor in the fact that many states increased their minimum wages which had to be responsible for at least some of that $1.20.



,,,You are a moron Biker Bill,,,try re-reading my 324pm post again...I did not mention median income anywhere, Idiot!


"Burned out" said,,,"“How does it happen in the richest country in the history of the world that half of our people are living paycheck to paycheck, trying to get by on nine to ten bucks an hour?” "

Half the people in this country? Good luck proving that.

There are jobs for those who want them. It's your issue or problem that you don't have a job or willing to do what it takes to get one.. LIKE STAY THE HELL OFF DRUGS AND BOOZE.


Look at the show the queen of the DAMNED put on.

A dozen pens ? Really? Now how much did those cost the taxpayer? And they all have HER signature on them... How special.


I see "jon" is back. With extra sour sauce still dripping.

George Rebane

Odlaq 324pm - Exactly, and that’s the point here. In your response to me, you totally missed my criticque of Bernies Big Lie. Instead, you started talking about something else. To do that, you didn’t have to reference my comment. I do think you may be totally confused about how comment threads work in online comment streams.

Bill Tozer

Why is everybody blaming Trump for killing a terrorist, shouldn’t you be blaming the missile?


What, 2.9% or so of the workforce work for minimum wage, mostly kids and newbies (entry level) to the job market before their first raises of move on after getting something on the resume.

How many folks lose jobs due to minimum (training) wage? Sure, some actually benefit, while others get their hours cut or the pink slip. Forget picking up extra overtime, like you are used to.

What blew me away is the black youth employment figures. It’s been like 24%, 21%, 19% forever. Up their at the top for many many moons. It’s never been so low....big drop.

The ones in the bottom tier have seen higher % wage inflation that those in the top, upper brackets.
Winning for the common man, the salt of the earth. Better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, oh ye dispirited. Hey, Reagen was head of a Union once.


Orange Man Bad

Try to keep up, Olaq

Don Bessee

What a crack up that the troll thinks it drives the conversation especially when you try to change the subject in the face of uncomfortable truths. Carry on bernie bro. Did you know that they are going to start taxing commas above the quota? LOL


Bill Tozer

Henry Charles Albert David: the carrot top formerly know as Prince.

Whoa Nelly. Stop right there. New scandal brewing. What were Trump’s true motive for going to the college champ game?? Trump is just a liar and violated such and such campaign finance rule and....

Media: Trump Turned College Football Championship Into MAGA Rally


Duh, that happens everywhere Trump goes. He draws them in pretty packed for a few years now. Heck, Trump rallies are now like tailgate parties in football stadium parking lots. Folks are in a good mood, hint, hint.
Do you know the following three headlines tell me? It tells me the Deep State is running scared shitless:

“CNN Conspiracy Theory: Pompeo Allowed Possible 'Benghazi' on U.S. Ambassador”

“PBS: Trump and Putin Use Facebook to ‘Exploit’ Nation’s Division”

“Nasty CNN Warns VA Gun Rights Supporters Could Cause Violence Like Charlottesville”


The LIBS golden boy sure is full of "completely innocent" claims every time he's been hauled off to the slammer.
"“Completely innocent,” Avenatti said as he was being led out of the courthouse, according to the Daily Beast, which reported that the arrest occurred during a break in testimony.

The arrest threatens to disrupt Avenatti’s trial scheduled next week in Manhattan on charges he tried to extort $25 million from Nike, a New York federal judge said during a hearing Wednesday.

“The arrest of Mr. Avenatti this close to the trial has essentially thrown the trial into chaos,” U.S. District Judge Paul G. Gardephe said. “Mr. Avenatti has been on bail in the California case for a long time. So there are certainly questions in my mind about why it was necessary to raise allegations about bail violations so close to the trial and it certainly has put defense counsel in a very difficult position.” "

Don Bessee

Looks like Brad Parscale is right again, Nevada is in play in November and the socialist dems made sure of it. Thanks clown car! -

Crucial Nevada union sends warning to 2020 Dems: Leave our health-care plans alone



Scott O

O***w 9:17 - Thanks for the link proving my point.
You sorta 'forgot' about fabricating some non-sense about a dog that I never wrote about.
But if making up BS is your go-to in trying to score cheap points, then we can't stop you.
BTW moron - here's a pro tip: If you claim that you don't know what I'm talking about, it sorta ruins your lie when you then post a link that is exactly what I'm talking about.
See? I'm trying to help you.
Now - back to our show....

Bill Tozer

Brother Walt, @ 5:08 pm

Yeah, Creepy porn Lawyer is in front of the state bar trying not to get his license “involuntary suspended” and in walks the Fed’s and say, “Bail Revoked” and haul him out of there in a short break in the proceedings. Not a image you want the judge to see if you are the defendant in front of her, roflmao.

That’s a scene straight out of the movies. American Pyscho, formerly known as The One Man on Earth who could go Toe to Toe with Trump. He was the rockstar Great White Trump Slayer for a couple of months. Oh, the fleeting light of fame.

“The arrest of Avenatti marks a new low for the attorney who was flying high a year ago while in the spotlight championing Daniels case against President Donald Trump.”

This image will stick in my mind like a good gangster movie of yore

“Completely innocent,” Avenatti said as he was being led out of the courthouse, according to the Daily Beast, which reported....”. Ha, I see flashbulbs going off. Well, he got two words out as he was being hurried away, probably head down and hunched over while walking at a high rate of speed with someone under each arm. Sweet.

,Man, what could be worse that being known worldwide as the Creepy Porn Lawyer? Only thing worse would be known as the guy who reminds everybody of the Creepy Banjo Boy in Deliverance. And defending two cases on two different coasts while in jail and scrambling for money with one pissed off cooperating ex-wife (she told the feds where to find his plane and tossed them the keys).......that three strikes. Four strikes. You are out of here, knucklehead.

Another one that can cry out, “He broke me.” D lister

Scott O

DB 5:40 - Maybe that's the union Paul should have joined.

Orange Man Bad

“I am sorry you are having trouble understanding.”

Not as sorry as you made yourself look, Odlug.


Wish I came up with it.
"What should have happened today: The Seven Dwarves deliver the impeachment document to the Senate, Mitch McConnell opens the envelope, removes the document, and drops it into a shredder. He then tells Snow Nancy and her Seven Mental Midgets to get the hell out of his Senate and never come back. Case dismissed!"

Don Bessee

Now its going to get fun! -



Bill Tozer

He said, she said. I believe her!

What did that polling Data say last week? That white feminists are racing to Warren, but black women certainly are not. Looks like the far left lane is only big enough for one. 3 weeks to the Iowa Caucuses and time to bloody each other up but good. Get that separation. Amy ain’t going to get the Biden lane, even if she pulls a Warren and pulls out the victimized woman card. Opps, too late. She is already blaming those Misognyistic Democrat Primary voters.

Those Bernie Bros made Friends of Hillary cry. Nasty bunch.

Interesting that Major Pete got hit with that ‘He’s A CIA SPY!” rumor last week or so, tying him to the missle attack on the Iranian Terrorist., Feneral Q something.
And Hillary really really wants Tulsi dead. Whatz up with HRS putting it out there that Lt. Col Tulsi is a Putin puppet and her real intentions are to be a third party, which plays right into Vladdy’s evil hands to get Trump re-elected. Went after Dr. Jill Stein as well. Sounds like Hillary is going make sure there aren’t any 3rd parties (like last time) in case there is a brokered convention....and the pressure grows and grows to the point it becomes too great to say “no”. ;)

I dunno. I do see Hillary’s invisible hand and smell her scent around the chess board. And the Bernie Bros leave a distinct calling card. Sharks. Killing machines. Hillary went after Bernie first, but the Bros fired right back. Kind of a stalemate. Oh, they will always hate her. And they are real potty mouths. Can’t post anything that bad here.

Warren proved she knows how to knife ya. Wonder who consoled with her before she blindsided Bernie? Who came up with that one. Thrust, then innocently say you “don’t want to be divisive.” Desperate times call for desperate measures. Wonder if Hillary Warren is behind the hits on mayor Pete. Claw marks and slashes on all of them, then face Trump, lol.

Don Bessee

Reaaaaallllllllyyyyyy he must have skipped the dna test video. -



Bill Tozer

On the social front:

I try to keep up with some social science, partly for the amusement value, and partly because social science is sometimes useful for proving the obvious (which is also amusing). But I’ve been falling behind in posting highlights, so it is time to catch up.


Don Bessee

While people being out and about with other people makes sense especially in a work environment its the spin …….

Americans are urged to get flu shots every year, but there may be another factor that could sway them toward immunization: The country's rising employment rate.

Because the U.S. is close to full employment, workplaces are more crowded, allowing the flu virus to spread more easily, according to an economist. In fact, each 1-percentage point increase in the employment rate correlates with a 16% bump in flu-related doctors' visits, Erik Nesson, an associate professor of economics at Ball State University in Indiana, said.

"It seems to be a place where higher economic activity is detrimental to people's health," Nesson said in an interview Wednesday.



Bill Tozer

27 Problems With Media’s Latest Failed Attack On Attorney General William Barr

Every paragraph in the nearly 10,000-word New Yorker article has significant problems. Taken together, it is just one long string of innuendos insinuating that William Barr is evil.


Baghdad Bob calls Barr a goon and boot licker. How adorable.

Don Bessee


Sen. Rand Paul is waging a fierce campaign to prevent the Senate from hearing witnesses in Donald Trump’s impeachment trial, vowing to force tough votes on his fellow Republicans if they break with the president or back Democrats' demands for new evidence.

The Kentucky Republican is occasionally at odds with Trump, from his killing of Iranian Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani to his national emergency to build his southern border wall. But when it comes to impeachment, Paul is taking the hardest line possible in Trump’s favor.

Paul says if four or more of his GOP colleagues join with Democrats to entertain new witness testimony, he will make the Senate vote on subpoenaing the president’s preferred witnesses, including Hunter Biden and the whistleblower who revealed the Ukraine scandal — polarizing picks who moderate Republicans aren’t eager to call. So he has a simple message for his party: end the trial before witnesses are called.

“If you vote against Hunter Biden, you’re voting to lose your election, basically. Seriously. That’s what it is,” Paul said during an interview in his office on Wednesday. “If you don’t want to vote and you think you’re going to have to vote against Hunter Biden, you should just vote against witnesses, period.”




DonB: "Crucial Nevada union sends warning to 2020 Dems: Leave our health-care plans alone"

It is a funny problem that you don't hear about.

If you institute a standardized universal healthcare or health insurance system, unless it's better than all current systems, somebody gets screwed. Basically, you have to put together something that's superior to all gold-plated plans in order to avoid arguments from those quarters.

Truth is, a lot of people in the US have far superior insurance than they could ever expect from a universal plan. In order to bring up all the people in a poor situation, cuts would be made at the top.

That's completely aside from the fact that US healthcare professionals tend to make more than their European equivalents. Somebody has to take it in the shorts.


Yup,, make them show up but can't vote. You know,, Can't do what you accused Trump of doing... "going after your political enemy".

And less votes that can be cast to throw Trump out.. Awwwww.... What a cry'n shame.


,,,Oh Dear,,,

The White House violated federal law in its hold on security aid to Ukraine last year, according to a decision by a congressional watchdog released on Thursday and reviewed by The Washington Post.
The Government Accountability Office, a nonpartisan agency that reports to Congress, found the Trump administration violated a law that governs how the White House disburses money approved by Congress.



Posted by: Odlaw | 16 January 2020 at 07:29 AM

Oh Comma Man....I knew it would be you......swoon....

Bill Tozer

Our deadbeat kids sitting around the barn eating all the hay. Lazy bastards. VDH

Europe's precarious position is of its own making. It's not too late to reverse

“The European Union has almost no ability to guarantee the delivery of critical oil and gas supplies from the Middle East should Iran close the Strait of Hormuz or harass ships in the Persian Gulf.

Europe's only maritime security is the NATO fleet -- a synonym for the U.S. Navy.

Vladimir Putin's Russia supplies an estimated 30 percent of Europe's oil needs. In times of crisis, Putin could exercise de facto control over the European economy.

In other words, Europe refuses to develop its own gas and oil reserves, and won't fund the necessary military power to ensure that it can safely import energy from problematic or even hostile sources.

It's no wonder that Europe's traditional foreign policy reflects these crazy paradoxes.”



,,,the latest installment in my series...Idiots with guns...

Jan. 15 (UPI) -- The U.S. Transportation Security Administration announced Wednesday that officers caught the highest number of guns at airport checkpoints nationwide in 2019.

TSA said it discovered 4,432 firearms in carry-on bags or on passengers at checkpoints throughout the country, the highest total in the agency's 18-year history and a five percent increase from the 4,239 firearms detected in 2018.

An average of about 12.1 firearms were detected each day in 2019 and of those found at checkpoints 85 percent were loaded.



Posted by: Odlaw | 16 January 2020 at 08:14 AM

Oh Comma Man......you've saved the day yet again.....this time from those awful, awful guns...swoon!


Uh oh.....more narrative fail!

Epstein had burst capillaries in eyeballs which 'suggests he was strangled'...

You mean Epstein didn't kill himself? That's as crazy as Mike Bloombergs image in a spicy a meat-a-ball!

Bill Tozer


Absurdly, the Times turns the floor over to the shameless Chuck Schumer:

“This Phase 1 deal is an extreme disappointment to me and to millions and millions of Americans who want to see us make China play fair,” Mr. Schumer said on the Senate floor. “President Trump’s Phase 1 trade deal with China is a historic blunder.”

Right, Chuckie. Now let’s hear your critique of Obama’s eight-year-long, supine kowtowing to the Chinese. The only thing Schumer is actually disappointed in is that with a successful completion of Phase One, Trump is marching toward re-election. The Times can’t entirely fail to mention the Phase One agreement’s substantial benefits to the U.S.......

President Trump understands the dynamic in play between the Red Chinese and the Democrats, and hasn’t been afraid to talk about it. Thus, today he signaled that he is not worried about the 2020 election, and the Chinese shouldn’t hold out in hopes of getting to negotiate with an anti-American like Bernie Sanders or a naif like Pete Buttagieg:

Mr. Trump said if the two sides could reach agreement on the next phase, all of the tariffs he has placed on China would come off.

“I will agree to take those tariffs off if we’re able to do Phase 2,” he said.

But Mr. Trump has already kicked the deadline for another agreement past the November election, and there is deep skepticism that the two countries will reach another trade deal anytime soon.

In other words, Trump is confident that he will be re-elected, and the Chinese should forget their hopes for a Sanders/Biden/Warren ascendancy.

Finally, the Democrats have tried to demonize Trump’s “America First” slogan, but nearly all voters understand that putting America first is basically the president’s job description. The Phase One agreement with China is a good example.”



,,, This Phase 1 deal is an extreme disappointment to me and to millions and millions of Americans...

Gosh Bill,,,that is the same thing the Conservos said about the Iran Nuke Deal that Trump scrapped allowing Iran to get back to bomb making...


Posted by: Odlaw | 16 January 2020 at 08:36 AM

Oh Comma Man......you've saved the day yet again.....this time from those awful, awful nuclear weapons...swoon!

Bill Tozer

Aha. Makes sense. I was wondering who put the hit out on Mayor Pete

AOC-Linked Dark Money Goes After Biden and Buttigieg

“A dark money group with ties to Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez announced Tuesday it will spend over $500,000 on digital ads attacking former Vice President Joe Biden and former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg...

Cortez and her then-campaign chair Saikat Chakrabarti served on the three-member board of Justice Democrats PAC while it simultaneously supported her primary campaign in 2018.

But Ocasio-Cortez never disclosed to the Federal Election Commission that she controlled the political action committee during her campaign.”

So, it was the Jacobins. I once cut Nadler the Penguin some slack for going a 180 and flipped for impeachment after being so vehemently opposed to it after I found out that the Justice Democrat’s had planned to primary the formerly fat dipshit. Stupid Nadler. Silly Nadler. They will be coming for him next. No safe places for “centralist Democrats”, a misnomer.

Yo Nadler: Can you say Maximilien Robespierre? He was a lawyer too. They are coming after you first, lol.


re: Odlaw@8:36AM

lol. Do you honestly think that the Iranians have veered one lick from their timeline in decades? My guess is that the only thing that has changed the ship date was Stuxnet and probably a hundred other unknown actions by the Israelis.

Write us a post, you're the comma-man
Write us a post tonight
Well, we're all in the mood for some crazy nonsense
We all know you just do it from spite


Posted by: Bill Tozer | 16 January 2020 at 08:48 AM

.....digging the Left on Left violence!

George Rebane

Amazing, some people still believe that Iran wasn't developing its nuclear weapons capability during the 'agreement'. Those studied in Islam know Iran's actions to be historically the greatest practice of taqiyya on an international scale.


,,,Bye Bye Bobbie Bye Bye,,,

Robert Hyde found under bus...



,,,of course there are engineers in Iran doing nuclear research, companies probably working on components, construction sites probably being developed,,,

,,,show me the nuclear warheads...

But the point is we and the rest of the superpowers were exercising soft power hegemony and keeping the conversation going...as we were doing in Iraq before Bush and his mad dogs sent us to war there...

...I notice neither Scenes or George are not showing us the Iranian yellow cake links yet...
When can we expect your proof???


Posted by: Odlaw | 16 January 2020 at 09:01 AM

Oh Comma Man......you've saved the day yet again.....this time from those awful, awful traitors in our midst....swoon!


Hot off the presses!


Bill Tozer

Keep carrying the water for Islamic Terrorists, water boy. The Left has as a big anti-Semitism Problem, as duly documented on these boards....as well as a big Asian-American problem. A chink in their armor, so to speak.

Remember when the House tried to pass a non binding resolution condemning anti-Semitism ? That went over like a MAGA hat at Liberal lovefest.. No resolution against “ The Jewish Problem”, too much to ask.

At least they are consistent.

Do American lives matter? Send in the Clowns.


Posted by: Odlaw | 16 January 2020 at 09:10 AM

Oh Comma Man......you've saved the day yet again.....you're so sexy when you talk technical....swoon!

Bill Tozer

Gregory @ 9:15 am

Oh my. I hope they don’t try to force Common Core down my throat when they haul me off to the re-education camps. If so, it would better to be dead than Red.


My power went out a few minutes ago...


Gregory. A line went down. Fire Dept. just got dispatched.


What? the likes of Emery and Dougy haven't jumped all over this yet?
But the same action by "O" was just fine.
How many times did "O" delay, defer, or ignore sections of his healthcare act?
And didn't Quid Pro Joe do the same damned thing getting the prosecutor fired in "Lay off my BOY" scandal?

It's back to "It's OK for me,but not for thee."


comma-man: "I notice neither Scenes or George are not showing us the Iranian yellow cake"

You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means. Yellow cake is not the issue, it's just uranium oxide. Heck, the Iranians have their own uranium mines.

Why do you think that these treaties have made any difference in their push for enrichment and to solve all the other well-known engineering issues? How has Trump changed the work actually done in their labs? Proof please.

Here's the problem. It won't be a big deal until it's a really big deal. Potential for large negative outcome. But then, maybe you're just the kind of person who doesn't bother with house or health insurance.

My guess is that the Iranian problem will go down the following way. The Israelis have people inserted into their system for intelligence gathering. At some point a danger threshold will be crossed and you'll see direct action by the IDF, they'll have decided that the cost of starting a small war is warranted. The US Left will bitch about how Israel is a bunch of Nazis for not wanting Tel Aviv incinerated. Plate tectonics will bury it all in the long run.


Gregory: "My power went out a few minutes ago..."

Well, hell man. Just sit out those solar panels you were supposed to buy. A coupla square feet should run a clothes dryer, refrigerator, and forced-air furnace.

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