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12 February 2020

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Scott O

Bloomberg's 'stop and frisk' did just barely make the cut as a Constitutionally allowable procedure. It absolutely cut down on the amount of bloodshed in NYC. Now he's on the national stage and he's wishing he hadn't done it. He's apologizing for it. If you run for POTUS as a Dem, you have you stop at the BLM booth and pay the toll or at least give massive lip service. Black Lives Matter is the most oxymoronically named group I've encountered. They care deeply for a handful of African background folk - most of whom were begging for a quick dispach to their maker. The massive death toll of innocent bystanders in urban areas that are not white mean absolutely nothing to the BLM goons. Police incompetence in officer involved shootings needs to be addressed. But BLM operates in a place of racism and fantasy. Bloomberg is apologizing that he saved the lives of who knows how many African descent lives. The road to the Dem nomination for POTUS is strange indeed.

odlaw

,,,stop and frisk,,,

...DUI checkpoint...

What is the difference????

George Rebane

odlaw 803am - SQF used Bayesian decision making for selecting its targets, DUI checkpoints don't.

Barry Pruett

Whether or not your support stop and frisk, listen to Bloomberg's tone as he talks about minority neighborhoods.

“Ninety-five percent of your murders, murderers and murder victims, fit one M.O. You can just take the description, Xerox it, and pass it out to all the cops,” Bloomberg said. “They are male, minorities, 16 to 25. That’s true in New York, that’s true in virtually every city. And that’s where the real crime is. You’ve got to get the guns out of the hands of people that are getting killed."

“So one of the unintended consequences is people say, ‘Oh my God, you are arresting kids for marijuana that are all minorities.’ Yes, that’s true. Why? Because we put all the cops in minority neighborhoods. Yes, that's true. Why do we do it? Because that’s where all the crime is," he continued.

“And the way you get the guns out of the kids’ hands is to throw them up against the wall and frisk them. And then they start. ’Oh, I don’t want to get caught,’ so they don’t bring the gun. They still have a gun, but they leave it at home," he said.

According to Bloomberg's words, these minorities are "Xerox copies" and he talks about throwing these minorities "against the wall." Sounds racially insensitive at a minimum.

oldaw

,,,This talk about Bloomberg and racism doesn't sound much different than the talk about Trump's racial profiling and family separation immigration plans...

...Don't hear much critiquing from the conservos on Trump's plans...

Reasons???

Walt

Just mow your own lawn Dougy.

George Rebane

oldaw 941am - and what plans of Trump are you talking about? And where did you get that "racial profiling" and "family separation immigration plans", from Obama? ... or did the lamestream forget to report that?

BarryP 933am - Well, that was telling it as it was. But do you have any thoughts about SQF practices vs the number of black lives saved?

fishwitchunt

Bloomberg was a Republican mayor so what else did you expect except racial insensitivity, etc.? That is what pubbers do best, appeal to white people's lowest instincts. How else can one rationalize trump?

Scott O

Bloomberg's description of 'throwing them against the wall' was his version of the procedure. I had never heard of it happening back when that policing measure was in force. The black cops were glad to be able to get the gun toting punks off the streets. The black population of NYC were glad to have safer streets. It was mainly white lefties and a handful of blacks that never had to walk those streets that complained.
Oddie 9:41 - "This talk about Bloomberg and racism doesn't sound much different than the talk about Trump's racial profiling and family separation immigration plans..."
Because with Trump it is just 'talk' or actually left wing bullshit to be accurate. There is no racial profiling at the border. None.
Kids have always been separated from their parents when the parents have committed crimes. Skin color has nothing to do with it.
Dragging your kids along with you while committing crime is child abuse.

Barry Pruett

George. I think that SQF a Terry stop) is logical. Police should use common sense. Go to where the crime is and where the shootings are and ask questions. I understand how SQF appears to disproportionately effect minorities, but the reality is that a majority of the crime in any city occurs in impoverished areas in which many minorities live. One person’s common sense of going to where crime is highest in order to prevent crimes is another man’s racism. If police are truly applying SQF with no racial bias, I don’t see a problem with this constitutionally permitted activity. see Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968). It is important to also know that all subsequent cases to Terry expanded stop and frisk and were either 8-1 or 9-0 decisions. SQF is well settled law.

The disparate effect on minorities stems from the amount of crime in these areas and not racial animus. My humble opinion.

fish

Posted by: fishwitchunt | 13 February 2020 at 10:05 AM


How else can one rationalize trump?


I don’t need to rationalize Trump......black people seem to dig him.....I mean those not working in the professional grievance industry! They certainly like him more in South Carolina than the most recent democrat front runner!

Wonder why that is?

George Rebane

BarryP 1217pm - Thank you Barry, that has been my considered (if somewhat hubristic) opinion for some years as these pages attest. One can show mathematically that it's foolish not to commit police resources where the likelihood of crime is highest. Race has nothing to do with it; preserving civilization does.

Bill Tozer

Re: Feb 13 update

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1287593084769474&set=gm.873860366402408&type=3&theater

odlaw

,,,oh dear!!! George and Bessie aren't going to like this MAGA fail...

Hundreds of thousands of jobs offshored during Trumpskkki's reign...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/10/trump-workers-jobs-overseas-factories

George Rebane

odlaw 510pm - You are a real caricature of yourself - have any idea about the number of jobs offshored during Obama's tenure?

Don Bessee

Can you say worker participation rate and unemployment rate trollio? Likely not! LOL!!

;-)

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