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05 February 2020

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Don Bessee

It seems the chi coms like having their own numbers -

On late Saturday evening (Feb. 1), Tencent, on its webpage titled "Epidemic Situation Tracker", showed confirmed cases of novel coronavirus (2019nCoV) in China as standing at 154,023, 10 times the official figure at the time. It listed the number of suspected cases as 79,808, four times the official figure.

The number of cured cases was only 269, well below the official number that day of 300. Most ominously, the death toll listed was 24,589, vastly higher than the 300 officially listed that day.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594

;-)

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594

;-)

Bill Tozer

Facts and fact checkers.

Fact-Checkers Have Become the Janissaries of the Obama Legacy

“They hide their worldview behind a patina of impartiality, claiming to be arbiters of the truth.
For me, at least, the most grating aspect of contemporary “fact-checking” isn’t the dubious journalistic nature of the project, or the endlessly nitpicking of every Republican utterance, whether it’s particularly misleading or not. It’s the increasingly popular effort to try to credit Barack Obama for everything good that’s happened during Donald Trump’s presidency.”

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/02/trump-state-of-the-union-address-factchecking-factcheckers/#slide-1
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Little Miss Sunshine

Greta Thunberg, perfect candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize that’s now a parody of itself

https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/02/04/michael-graham-greta-thunberg-the-perfect-candidate-for-a-nobel-peace-prize-that-has-become-a-parody-of-itself/

odlaw

,,,Yes,,,Trump lemmings do have their own facts,,,

I believe the president, and in the president.
I believe the Senate is right to acquit the president. I believe a fair trial is one with no witnesses, and that the trial was therefore fair. I believe the House was unfair because it found evidence against him. I believe that if the president does something that he believes will get himself reelected, that’s in the public interest and can’t be the kind of thing that results in impeachment.
I believe former national security adviser John Bolton has no relevant testimony because he didn’t leave the White House on good terms.
I believe the president’s call was perfect. I believe he is deeply concerned about corruption in Ukraine. I believe the president can find Ukraine on a map.
I believe Ukraine interfered with the 2016 election, and that the intelligence community’s suggestion otherwise is a Deep State lie. I believe the Democratic National Committee server is in Ukraine, where CrowdStrike hid it....

...continued here...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/05/george-conway-trump-i-believe/

fish

Posted by: odlaw | 06 February 2020 at 06:46 AM


……brave, brave, brave Sir dugsKKKi, Sir dugsKKKi.

odlaw

,,,con’t...

‘’’I believe President Barack Obama placed a “tapp” on the president’s phones in 2016, and that the Russia investigation was a plot to keep him from winning, even though the plotters didn’t think he could win.
I believe former special counsel Robert S. Mueller III was conflicted because he quit one of the president’s golf clubs, and that he and his Angry Democrats conducted a Witch Hunt to destroy the president. But I believe Mueller’s report totally exonerated the president, because it found no collusion and no obstruction.
I believe it would be okay for the president to say he grabs women by their p-----s, because he is a star, and stars are allowed to do that. But I believe he didn’t say that, even though he apologized for it, because I believe the “Access Hollywood” tape was doctored, because he said it was.
I believe E. Jean Carroll lied when she accused the president of rape, because he said she’s not his type. I believe the dozens of other women who accused him of sexual misconduct are also lying, because he would never think of grabbing them by their p-----s or anything else.’’’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/05/george-conway-trump-i-believe/

fish
"I believe I can fly………"

I used to think that I could not go on
And life was nothing but an awful song
But now I know the meaning of true love
I'm leaning on the everlasting arms
If I can see it, then I can do it
If I just believe it, there's nothing to it
I believe I can fly
I believe I can touch the sky
I think about it every night and day (Night and day)
Spread my wings and fly away
I believe I can soar
I see me running through that open door
I believe I can fly
I believe I can fly
I believe I can fly hoo
See I was on the verge of breaking down
Sometimes silence can seem so loud
There are miracles in life I must achieve
But first I know it starts inside of me, ho oh
If I can see it hoo, then I can be it
If I just believe it, there's nothing to it
I believe I can fly
I believe I can…



R. Kelly


See dugsKKKi….there is hope…….someday another Clinton will come along and wash all your salty ham flavored tears away!

George Rebane

Odlaw 731am - Right on schedule is the arrival of Mr Hubris Maximus to assure us that only his side has the real, dyed-in-the-wool, bona fide facts. The rest merely have obviously cockeyed beliefs that they parade as facts. Point made.

odlaw

Posted by: George Rebane | 06 February 2020 at 09:03 AM

,,,I am not sure I have made my point...I doubt the Roundtable will click on a WP link as it would be akin to snuggling with a werewolf during Wolf Moon...

,,,Did You Know?
'''To the Greeks, hubris referred to extreme pride, especially pride and ambition so great that they offend the gods and lead to one's downfall. Hubris was a character flaw often seen in the heroes of classical Greek tragedy, including Oedipus and Achilles. The familiar old saying "Pride goeth before a fall" is basically talking about hubris.'''

,,,and who best represents Hubris Maximus...

Yep,,,Roundtable Hero...drum roll please!!!... Dear Leader!!!

fish

Posted by: odlaw | 06 February 2020 at 09:52 AM


,,,I am not sure I have made my point...I doubt the Roundtable will click on a WP link


Well ya never know dugsKKKi……you should get back to us when he succumbs to Hubris……which according to PunchyBot was going to occur with The Mueller Report, Impeachment, any number of bad polls, Stormy Daniels, Locusts…….

scenes

Say, this is a good idea. Those guys at /pol are always thinking.

https://i.redd.it/semn93h5raf41.png

scenes

Say, this is a good idea. Those guys at /pol are always thinking.

https://i.redd.it/semn93h5raf41.png

odlaw

Posted by: scenes | 06 February 2020 at 11:01 AM

,,,4chan...awesome!!!

Is that where the Alt Ryghty's posted the Iowa caucus poll data line???

fish

Posted by: odlaw | 06 February 2020 at 11:29 AM


Well I hope someone posted the count……democrats were dawdling as usual!

Scott O

outlaw 11:29 - Which data did you want? The DNC's? The Russians? Soro's? Shadow Inc? Bernie's? Booty-Judge's?
Or the actual count, including the clueless idiot that claimed she didn't know Mayor Pete was gay because "it's never been brought up"?

Scott O

oddlaw 7:31 - Oh dear, wrong again. "I doubt the Roundtable will click on a WP link as it would be akin to snuggling with a werewolf during Wolf Moon..."
It's you lefties that brag about not visiting sites due to fear.
That link goes to a comedy routine by George Conway. There is nothing even claiming to be factual about it.
But you are entitled to your own reality as the one with Trump as your POTUS is clearly more than your fragile system can handle.

scenes

comma-man:

",,,4chan...awesome!!!

Is that where the Alt Righty's posted the Iowa caucus poll data line???"

They might as well. I'd rank the Washington Post as 4chan's equivalent in terms of editorial bias, although 4chan can be funnier. To their credit WaPo has about 3x the page hits, but the time on page and pages read is about 1/3 as high.

Just one more superpower of Orange Man. Making it clear to the world what you are getting from 'journalists', whether it's an urban newspaper or the crack KVMR news team.

scenes

Scotto: "It's you lefties that brag about not visiting sites due to fear."

Oddly enough, I spent some time this morning dragging through the CPUSA's site to see what their take is on GEOTUS's takedown of Ms. Pelosi.

They don't seem to keep up on current affairs much, it's mostly small essays written by (seemingly) well-meaning high school students. Honestly, they don't even seem to be that Marxist, it's mostly been taken over by the Diversity! people, not really a thing that either the early Communist writers or the Soviet Union really had clear views on.

odlaw

Posted by: scenes | 06 February 2020 at 12:38 PM

,,,How many GE lies did you count during his SOTU speech???

Agent Orange forgot to mention Conservos Trump haters were the initial buyers of the Steele research...

I guess once Trump was the prime candidate they gave up and the Demos hired Steele...

Walt

Back to that Dougy? But what lie? How great the economy is doing? More people working than ever? Even minorities?
Those lies? HELL You have yet to show facts otherwise.
Yaa,, that good old proggy standard "goto" accusation.
ya' really need to find a renta pal to hear your whows.
There is always the chicken coop. Just sit outside and tell the girls all about it. You will have a captive audience(and many a volunteer to become dinner as soon as possible.)

Walt

Yes Dougy.. Orange man REAL bad. The biggest porn star yet.
He just "F"ed the entire Democrat party in one night. Now have a good smoke in the afterglow.

George Rebane

What is there about our liberal commenters that they either don't read or nothing they read sticks? I would bet that every conservative commenter in these comment streams regularly consumes lamestream media outlets like WaPo and NYT to know what's going on there. You can't find evidence here of these folks being ignorant of a national development or sentiment as do our media-blindered liberal readers on a regular basis. I can't count the number of times I have been accused of being the originator of an already nationally established notion (usually involving some conservative thought). Why? because the liberal commenter never ventured out of his media safe zone. The 952am is just another corroborating example of this.

Walt

Emery in Grass Valley?
5:48 p.m. — A caller from the 700 block of Sutton Way reported a man causing heated arguments, walking in the bike lane with an “InfoWars” sign and an American flag. He was told to walk on the sidewalk.

Don Bessee

The socialist dem 'facts' have resulted in this -

Cal Thomas: Trump's got the wind at his back and Democrats are in disarray

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-democrats-disarray-cal-thomas

;-)

Bill Tozer

Facts: It’s much better to get your facts from someone talking about the NY Slimes or Wa Compost that to read it from one of Odlas’s links. Airborne viruses and all. I don’t want to catch whatever he got. That is one nasty and lethal bug. Can’t be too safe when it comes to that kind of stuff. Brain eating stuff. Without further ado....,,,,,,....

A LIBERAL GETS TRUMP’S SOTU ADDRESS
Right after President Trump delivered his State of the Union Address, I said that Democrats should be very worried about the upcoming presidential election. David Von Drehle, the Washington Post’s most insightful liberal columnist in my view, is worried. He explains why in his latest column, perhaps the most perceptive I’ve seen about the SOTU speech:

Viewers were left to wonder: Why wouldn’t Pelosi applaud money for historically black colleges and universities? What’s her beef with a serviceman who returns from deployment to hug his kids? Where’s her feeling for the brother of a man killed by an undocumented criminal? All of these visuals could be explained in policy terms, but as Ronald Reagan once confided to his diary, “If you’re explaining, you’re losing.”

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/02/a-liberal-gets-trumps-sotu-address.php

And Devon Nunes is a stupid idiot and Mafia henchman Barr is a ass kissing thug, and I just adore the way George Conway moves on the dance floor. He can schlong me anytime he wants.

Walt

This should brighten Emery's day.
https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/06/andrew-napolitano-fox-news-donald-trump-impeachment/
"Fox News senior judicial analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano explained Thursday how President Donald Trump legally could be impeached again, hours after slamming the Senate’s Wednesday acquittal vote in an op-ed.

Napolitano called out Senate Republicans for voting against additional witness testimony and added that the president is “clearly guilty” of the impeachment charges in an op-ed. He added to these comments on Fox & Friends Thursday morning, explaining how there’s no double jeopardy, meaning Democrats could try and “impeach him again if they want.” "

The Proggys are dumb enough to try again.

Walt

Here is one of Dougy's "lies".
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/new-us-jobless-claims-fall-15000-to-202000-and-return-close-to-a-50-year-low-2020-02-06

Don Bessee

Fauxcahantas -But, but, but I AM a woman of color! said to the backs of the tokens as they walk out the door. -

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/women-of-color-quit-elizabeth-warrens-campaign-in-nevada-report

;-)

odlaw

Posted by: Walt | 06 February 2020 at 02:50 PM

,,,Think about it Wally...The economy has been improving and employment figures have been rising since 2008 under Obama and now during the Trump administration...

But guess what??? Unless we allow more immigrants into the country we are going to run out of people to hire...

So...for the light thinking Wally...jobless claims are going to decrease...and more minorities are going to be hired...

Bill Tozer

Re: Update 2/06/2020; “Here is a prime example of the polarization of facts. As these pages have archived, our liberal readers have continually countered the news and data available to all who can read that California has increasingly systemic problems with its economy, infrastructure, taxes, regulations, and an ongoing exodus of commerce and workers. The leftwing mind can parse none of these facts......”.—— The Doc.

Well, it ain’t Californication, but Seattle will serve as a stand-in.

‘Seattle’s Liberal Reckoning’

“Writing on KOMO’s website, Johnson said his documentary was “about citizens who don’t feel safe taking their families into downtown Seattle….about parents who won’t take their children into public parks they pay for. It’s about filth and degradation all around us. And theft and crime. It’s about people who don’t feel protected anymore, who don’t feel like their voices are being heard.”

Johnson’s documentary was aired in March of last year, some seven months before the Seattle City Council elections. It touched a nerve among many Seattleites and kicked up gale-force winds of controversy throughout the city and beyond. In the end, though, it didn’t have much impact. It will take a lot more civic chaos, dysfunction, and violence for this city to make the connection between that decay and the kind of leadership it so avidly favors. Seattle may or may not be dying, but it is in a far more ominous state of civic health than most of its citizens realize.”

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/seattles-liberal-reckoning/

L

SFB @ 3:43- I'm all in favor of more immigrants to reinforce the labor pool. Let's make sure they are capable of doing more than making an X on a dim voter registration as more incompetent criminals aren't going to help much.

My father came here in 1928 with sponsor and job waiting. Lost that job with the onset of the depression, but since he could already speak English as a second language, had no problem finding employment for the rest of his long life. That kind of immigrant we can use in large numbers. Useless eaters and their collateral illiterate, unemployable relatives, not so much.

Want your schools to work again? No advancement until instruction in our native language can be understood by the would-be student.

You still don't get it- conservatives aren't anti-immigrant, they're anti-illegal immigrant. When you figure that out, then come with your suggestions...

Scott O

idiot-law 3:43 - "But guess what??? Unless we allow more immigrants into the country we are going to run out of people to hire..."
Who's against immigration?
Not Trump nor anyone here.
We're against illegals.
Maybe you could get some one to scream that in your ear for an hour or so.
And then again - you probably still wouldn't get it.
Flooding the country with illegal unskilled labor just as automation is kicking in big time is a recipe for disaster.

Walt

LOL Dougy!!! Biden already tried taking credit for Trump's economy. Only saps like you deny that fact.
Remember? Your boy "O" said "those jobs just ain't coming back"
Trump had that magic wand and gave it a good waive.. And look what happened.

Bill Tozer

Re: [Addendum], Another more local example of the Great Divide....

Looks like the R’s and the Independents liked the SCOTUS, Democrats gave it the thumbs down. Just more proof that Trump was speaking to a larger audience and the lefties only talk among themselves. Good numbers for Independents, not so much Leftinistas.

‘Most viewers approved of Trump's second State of the Union address’

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/state-of-the-union-2019-most-viewers-approved-of-trumps-sotu-address-cbs-news-poll/

Bill Tozer

Favorables for Republican Party brand hits half, numbers unseen since 2003.

The Lefties say Blue Wave coming. R’s are toast, put a fork in it.

Guess the two sides have different sets of facts. :)

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery must be laying low in the convent after his defeat in his predictions of Trump's impeachment.

Barry Pruett

Todd. Paul is playing you guys. He wasn’t serious that he actually thought that Trump wouldn’t be acquitted. 😉

Scott O

Just visited CNNs Iowa Caucus results page. In the first and in the final round Bernie beats out Pete by a wide margin, but Pete somehow ends up with more delegates. And this is the party screaming about the Electoral College!
looks like the money Pete paid Shadow Inc. paid off pretty handsomely.
Just wait until Super Tuesday and the Bloomberg money comes in.
"Party Of The People" - what a laugh.
Wasn't it always the Dems saying they wanted to "get the money out of politics"?

Don Bessee

@726 They meant all our opponents money out of politics! LOL

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Winning- China clears the way for phase 1 purchases of lots of American goods! -

China cuts tariffs on $75 billion of U.S. imports in trade truce
“We hope to work with the United States toward the final elimination of all tariff increases,” said a Ministry of Finance statement.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-cuts-tariffs-75-billion-u-s-imports-trade-truce-n1131286

;-)


odlaw

Posted by: Scott O | 06 February 2020 at 07:26 PM

PO Ol Scotto,,,as clueless as ever...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_of_the_People

odlaw

Posted by: Walt | 06 February 2020 at 05:13 PM

,,,PO Ol Wally,,,also clueless as ever...

Thinks Presidents make or break the economy...

What a hoot!!!

Don Bessee

Oh ya gotta love the trolls sense of humor @745!

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Oh no, poor old fredo's facts didn't make the cut!! LOL!!!

CABLE NEWS RACE
WEDS, FEB 5, 2020

FOXNEWS THE FIVE 5,336,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 5,170,000
FOXNEWS TUCKER 5,117,000
FOXNEWS LAURA 4,710,000
MSNBC MADDOW 3,144,000
MSNBC ODONNELL 2,156,000
MSNBC HAYES 1,909,000
CNN TOWN HALL 1,043,000

;-)

Scott O

odd-out 7:45 - That's a sad try at diversion. I wasn't talking about them and you know it. Care to face the issues I brought up?
No - I didn't think so.
Poor sap - all oddy can do is throw rocks.

Don Bessee

Emperor Xi's cadre can not remember which lie to tell today as their communist dictatorship looks to be melting down as their structure of corruption fails 2 big challenges. The Dr. they put on house arrest for warning other health workers to be careful just died from it.

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/02/06/china-reports-deletes-again-reports-death-wuhan-virus-whistleblower-doctor/

;-)

The Estonian Fox

The Chinese coronavirus whistleblower, Dr. Li, died Friday morning in China.

From the NY Times-
"Dr. Li was reprimanded by the police after he shared concerns about the virus in a social messaging app with medical school classmates on Dec. 30. Three days later, the police compelled him to sign a statement that his warning constituted 'illegal behavior'.”

What is not in the various reports on Dr. Li (namely, a third sentence missing from between the 2 sentences above) is: The Chinese government was monitoring, and then took action, to silence someone who may have been having a private discussion with his former med school classmates.

Why isn't the reason for the Chinese government knowing what he said reported in U.S. papers? They are continually monitoring everything their citizens say. It's bad enough when Google or Facebook restrict speech on their platforms, but quite another if our (U.S.) government were to do so. Yet the monitoring, and followup strong-arm, is standard procedure for most totalitarian governments, and our news people have no discussion about this. Just the standard wringing of hands - "oh, what can we do, what can we do"?

This would seem to be a substantially large reason to never trust what the Chinese government says or does.

odlaw

Posted by: The Estonian Fox | 07 February 2020 at 04:34 AM

,,,Estonian Fox ...it was a cover up so it made it difficult to get the truth news out...but we are reading about it now.

fish

Posted by: odlaw | 07 February 2020 at 07:57 AM

.....it was a cover up so it made it difficult to get the truth news out...but we are reading about it now.


Oh dugsKKKi......the best part.....the absolute best part of Trump is that he’s turned the pseudointellectual left back into the spastically crazy conspiracy theorists they always were!


Milhouse Van Keachie.....?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RXVE01oOTAM


Walt

And the proggy donkey takes another 2x4 between the eyes.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/02/07/appeals-court-throws-out-democrats-emoluments-lawsuit-against-trump/
SO much losing...😢

Walt

Maybe Dougy can explain how these facts go in the "O",, "I did that" column.🤣
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2020/02/07/u-s-economy-created-225000-jobs-in-january/
The U.S. economy added 225,000 jobs in January and the unemployment rate ticked up to 3.6.

Economists had expected the economy to add 160,000 jobs. December’s figure was revised up from 145,000 to 147,000.

Todd Juvinall

Another Trump victory and democrat defeat. What a week!!

A federal appeals court in Washington threw out a lawsuit accusing President Trump of illegally profiting off his private businesses while in office, ruling that the Democratic lawmakers who brought the suit lack legal standing.

George Rebane

odlaw 757am - was that your best shot at a reason why US outlets omitted the second sentence (exposing chi com monitoring of their citizens) from their reports? All of that information was known to them from the gitgo, and even before Dr Li's social media post. There was nothing "difficult to get the truth out" at all. But there probably was another agenda at work.

Bill Tozer

I would say that it is not always having different two sets of facts, but different interpretations and biases applied of the same set of facts

Matthews UNGLUED: ‘Goose Stepping' ‘Black Mamba’ Trump ‘Cult’ Ready for ‘Violent Purge’

He (Matthews) added, “They sounded like the language of a dictator unleashing a violent purge that his targets would be unlikely to survive.” Matthews also raged, “President Trump spoke today with the venom of a black mamba.”

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/scott-whitlock/2020/02/06/matthews-unglued-violent-black-mamba-trump-cult-ready-violent
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Chris Cuomo Defends Buttigieg: 'Ugliest' of 'Lies' to Claim Dems Are Extreme on Abortion

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kristine-marsh/2020/02/07/chris-cuomo-defends-buttigieg-ugliest-lies-claim-dems-are-extreme

odlaw

Posted by: George Rebane | 07 February 2020 at 09:35 AM

,,,You mean like Trump praising China for their quick response??? BWAHAHAHAHA

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/07/world/asia/coronavirus-china.html

odlaw

Posted by: George Rebane | 07 February 2020 at 09:35 AM

George, maybe you should ask Dear Leader why he would not let our intelligence services release the information??? Dr. Li knew about Corona Virus last year!!!

'''On Dec. 30, Li Wenliang dropped a bombshell in his medical school alumni group on the popular Chinese messaging app WeChat: Seven patients from a local seafood market had been diagnosed with a SARS-like illness and quarantined in his hospital.'''

Don Bessee

More inconvenient facts -

The U.S. economy added 225,000 jobs in January and the unemployment rate ticked up to 3.6.
Economists had expected the economy to add 160,000 jobs. December’s figure was revised up from 145,000 to 147,000.

The unemployment rate edged up because the labor force participation rate increased, meaning the strong labor market drew more people into the workforce. The participation rate rose to 63.4 percent in January, the best rate since the last recession.

The employment to population ratio for prime age workers rose to 80.6 percent, the highest since 2001.

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2020/02/07/u-s-economy-created-225000-jobs-in-january/

;-)


Don Bessee

CNN wouldn't know a fact if it bit them on the ass. They got bit by their 'fact checker' -

CNN came under fire on Thursday when its in-house fact-checker reported President Trump “falsely claims former FBI Director James Comey admitted to leaking” when the liberal network had reported otherwise, and Comey, in fact, had admitted to leaking.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-fact-checker-trump-comey

;-)

George Rebane

odlaw 1001am - and where's the evidence that our intelligence services withheld that nascent info from anyone? You might also consider that in Dec2019 those few cases, even if the report were accessible, would have been one of a continuing plethora of infectious disease events popping up here and there all over the world all the time. There is some prudence involved in starting to holler wolf too early and too often, especially if the info is incomplete. However, such considerations are not accessible to those suffering from TDS.

odlaw

Posted by: George Rebane | 07 February 2020 at 10:48 AM

Ok, so there was no cover up on the part of the mainstream truth news...

odlaw

,,,1. “We are restoring our nation’s manufacturing might, even though predictions were that this could never be done. After losing 60,000 factories under the previous two administrations, America has now gained 12,000 new factories under my administration.” ...

Non Farm manufacturing jobs have been decreasing since 1945...This is just another bullshit jab at Obama,,,and Bush...

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1Gor

odlaw

,,,1. “We are restoring our nation’s manufacturing might, even though predictions were that this could never be done. After losing 60,000 factories under the previous two administrations, America has now gained 12,000 new factories under my administration.” ...

You mean this FAKE NEWS by the Orange Rind???

https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/20/20974999/trump-is-lying-about-the-new-apple-factory

odlaw

2. “ … the United States has become the No. 1 producer of oil and natural gas in the world, by far.”

...Another attempt by LYIN Trumpskki to take credit for something he had nothing to to with...

'''The United States remained the world's top producer of petroleum and natural gas hydrocarbons in 2016 for the fifth straight year despite production declines for both petroleum and natural gas relative to their 2015 levels. The United States has been the world's top producer of natural gas since 2009, when U.S. natural gas production surpassed that of Russia, and it has been the world's top producer of petroleum hydrocarbons since 2013, when its production exceeded Saudi Arabia’s. '''

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=31532

fish

Posted by: odlaw | 07 February 2020 at 01:05 PM


...Another attempt by LYIN Trumpskki to take credit for something he had nothing to to with...


Nobody is listening dugsKKKi.....nobody cares! Trump isn't Hillary.....that was all that mattered in 2016.


I can't believe you're still going on about it. No one here gives a shit about your complaints, your evidence....


Try the KOSKIDS maybe they'll listen to the whining of privileged old white man!

George Rebane

odlaw 1101am - As soon as it leaked to the west, FN ran stories on Dr Li, and immediately ran panels on how the chicom govt had instantly dunned the physician and how Wuhan's mayor shirked his reportin while waiting for Beijing to give its OK (which took over a week). The lamestream remained mum - i.e. censorship and control by the central govt is good, and we should have more of it here (especially if you listen to the clown car candidates) and their spiritual leaders like AOC.

And Trump started giving out federal leases for drilling almost immediately upon taking office. The clown car candidates are promising that they will stop all drilling on federal lands, and don't even think about new leases.

odlaw

Posted by: George Rebane | 07 February 2020 at 01:38 PM

When did the WSJ first write about Dr. Li???

'''censorship and control by the central govt is good, and we should have more of it'''...So, you are saying the Trump (central government) administration is controlling and censoring us???

'''And Trump started giving out federal leases for drilling almost immediately upon taking office. The clown car candidates are promising that they will stop all drilling on federal lands, and don't even think about new leases.'''
... You are changing the subject from Trump's original fact checked LIE!!!
Isn't changing the subject to avoid admitting you have bad info what you all complain to Paul E. about???

odlaw

,,,maybe George is saying FN knows more than the US Intelligence agencies when it comes to Chinese Coronavirus information...

Sounds kind of incompetent of the Trump administration don't it???

And Trump has a pleasant convo with the Chinese Pres and gives his government a glowing review of the handling of the Coronavirus. Sounds like he is brown nosing the Chinese again...

odlaw

Posted by: fish | 07 February 2020 at 01:30 PM

,,,and poor Oosik cannot believe I am going on and on about it!!!! Maybe Oosik is going to need glasses soon. He must have missed '''[7feb20 update] Trump’s SOTUS was all lies'''

,,,and notice no Conservo will admit that it was Obama that made the the US the '''No. 1 producer of oil and natural gas in the world'''

'''The United States remained the world's top producer of petroleum and natural gas hydrocarbons in 2016 for the fifth straight year despite production declines for both petroleum and natural gas relative to their 2015 levels. The United States has been the world's top producer of natural gas since 2009, when U.S. natural gas production surpassed that of Russia, and it has been the world's top producer of petroleum hydrocarbons since 2013, when its production exceeded Saudi Arabia’s.'''

scenes

",,,and notice no Conservo will admit that it was Obama that made the the US the '''No. 1 producer of oil and natural gas in the world'''"

Honestly, I'd say that it was fracking and a buncha other modern oil extraction and detection techniques that pulled it off. Hopefully the next President doesn't make fracking illegal, although I'm afraid the Democrats are stupid enough to give it a shot. If so, so much for both the economy and greenhouse gas emissions.

It's an area where there's a clear difference between the two parties in 2020.

If you want to believe that Obama is some sort of petroleum engineer you go right ahead.

fish

Posted by: odlaw | 07 February 2020 at 02:56 PM


Trump’s SOTUS was all lies.......


LIES, LIES.......ALL LIES......NOTHING BUT LIES........


Cue the music-

Tell me lies
Tell me sweet little lies
(Tell me lies, tell me, tell me lies)
Oh, no, no you can't disguise
(You can't disguise, no you can't disguise)
Tell me lies
Tell me sweet little lies
Although I'm not making plans
I hope that you understand
There's a reason why
Close your, close your, close your eyes
No more broken hearts
We're better off apart
Let's give it a try
Tell me, tell me, tell me lies
Tell me lies
Tell me sweet little lies
(Tell me lies, tell me, tell me lies)
Oh, no, no you can't disguise
(You can't disguise, no you can't disguise)
Tell me lies.......


Needs more cowbell!!

odlaw

Posted by: scenes | 07 February 2020 at 03:06 PM

,,,And Scenes won't say the same thing about Trump...namely, he did not have anything to do with our No.1 standing...

illustrating more Trump lemming bias...

Bill Tozer

Time for a fact checker on the dumbest folks in broadcasting.

Katy Tur Fears ‘Gerrymandering’ Helping Republicans Win Senate Seats

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kyle-drennen/2020/02/07/katy-tur-fears-gerrymandering-helping-republicans-win-senate-seats
——————-
Well, she got at least one thing right.

Joy Behar Admits, Trump's 'Winning' Because 'I'm Getting Nuttier and Nuttier'

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kristine-marsh/2020/02/07/joy-behar-admits-trumps-winning-because-im-getting-nuttier-and

Bill Tozer

Fact checker sez:

https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10157060628590914/?type=3&theater

https://politics.theonion.com/dnc-offers-startup-500-million-to-develop-pencil-that-1841455042

fish

Posted by: odlaw | 07 February 2020 at 03:11 PM


illustrating more Trump lemming bias...


...and the result of this is......?

Don Bessee

Its a fact that if you fail to kill the king there will be a price. Drain that swamp -

The deeper anxiety among many career national security officials is that Trump, feeling vindicated by the Senate’s acquittal, will act on long-harbored suspicions that bureaucrats at the State Department and the NSC are out to undermine his agenda.

Unburdened by impeachment, they fear that Trump could unleash his anger at the foreign policy establishment he’s long equated with what some of his advisers and supporters call the “Deep State.”

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-impeachment-acquittal-leaves-diplomats-090005968.html

;-)

Don Bessee

BAM! She just threw her uncle under the bus, hey its 9 months till thanksgiving that will fall after the re-election. Somehow I don't think she will be at the same feast as ol' uncle mitt -

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/02/07/rnc-chair-mitt-romney-came-to-the-senate-trial-with-a-bias-against-trump/

;-)

Scott O

oddy 2:56 - Another example of leftys with their own facts.
",,,and notice no Conservo will admit that it was Obama that made the the US the '''No. 1 producer of oil and natural gas in the world'''"
Because Obama did what he could to curtail the production of petro. That's why.
odd-boy's quote on production of petro (no citation - maybe he got it from a bathroom he visited?) doesn't mention Obama at all.
Here's a better view:
https://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/obamas-drilling-denials/
Output on existing federal leases increased, but that was due strictly to new tech - nothing Obama did. Natural gas production went down.
But odd-boy wants his own facts.
"...it was Obama that made the the US the '''No. 1 producer of oil and natural gas in the world'''""
You notice odd-thing can't explain HOW Obama did that.
But thanks for helping George make his point!

Scott O

BT 3:19 - Thanks for the laugh of the day. Those evil Republicans!
Going back in time to make the state boundaries so that more Rs would be in the Senate! We obviously need to re-draw the states' borders to reflect diversity and social justice!
I wonder how long they had to spend with that gender quota hire to explain basic civics to her?

Bill Tozer

Protecting Obama’s legacy is a full time job here on these boards.

Bill Tozer

Re update Feb 6/20. Tale of two state or....Red States vs Blue.

‘Red v. Blues’
“Seismic shifts in economic and demographic power are occurring across America.”

(First paragraphs)

“The political and cultural war between red and blue America may not be settled in our lifetimes, but it’s clear which side is gaining ground in economic and demographic terms. In everything from new jobs—including new technology employment—fertility rates, population growth, and migration, it’s the red states that increasingly hold the advantage.

Perhaps the most surprising development is on the economic front. Over the past decade, the national media, and much of academia, have embraced the notion that the future belonged to the high-tax, high-regulation economies clustered on the East and West Coasts. The red states have been widely dismissed, in the words of the New York Times, as the land of the “left behind.”

Yet the left-behind are catching up, as economic momentum shifts away from coastal redoubts toward traditionally GOP-leaning states. Just a few years ago, states like California, Massachusetts, and New York held their own, and then some, in measurements of income growth from the Bureau of Economic Analysis. Now the fastest growth is concentrated in the Sunbelt and Great Plains. Texans’ income in the latest 2019 BEA estimates was up 4.2 percent, well above California’s 3.6 percent and twice New York’s 2.1 percent. The largest jumps—and this may matter a lot in 2020—took place in the Dakotas, Nebraska, and Iowa.“

Bill Tozer

Facepalm: link, don’t forget link.

https://www.city-journal.org/red-states-economic-demographic-advantage

George Rebane

The record will show that Obama did NOTHING to help or increase fossil fuel production. All of the gains were made by oil companies on private land under his administration. For him or his lackeys to take credit for our energy independence is laughable as the candidate clown car corroborates daily.

Bill Tozer

@ 6:49 pm

And lest we forget, Obama in his speeches as POTUS talked about an energy dependent NORTH AMERICA when addressing the topic. I paid particularly close attention to the phrase “North America” when he discussed it. He included Mexico and Canada when talking oil production.

And lest we forget, the Obama Administration did basically nothing of substance on the domestic economy front after 2010. Giving credit to Obama ten years after 2010 is a stretch. And Obamacare care would be paid for by a 6% GDP this year, a 9% GDP in the following years by 2030....etc.

It’s a full time job to exaggerate Obama’s achievements while minimizing Trump’s achievements, aka, Protect Obama’s Legacy to take away from Trump’s magic wand.

How many regulations did Obama rescind during his years....or did he pile on regulation upon regulation upon regulation until the day he left office? Many experts point out that decreasing the regulatory environment has had just as big (if not bigger) affect on the economy as tax cuts.

And despite the moaning and groaning from the Hate America First crowd, the revenues to the Treasury are at all time highs.

odlaw

,,,Yes Boys,,,that is where you are blind...

Trump's BS SOTU was about him trying to make light readers believe that we were Number 1 because of his policies...

And you fools bought it...

I don't think Obama did anything specific about it but if you loons want to play that game so be it...

Don Bessee

Talk about group think like the troll above, the fact is independents and swing state voters were thrilled with Tuesdays speech. Cali and NY mean nothing.This is what the group think blue mob aka the new red guard have concluded. LOL!!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-leftists-believe-tide-turning-ahead-election-165646455.html

Now that was a thigh slapper!

;-)

Scott O

George 6:49 - "The record will show that Obama did NOTHING to help or increase fossil fuel production."
Actually - the record shows that Obama did what he could to deter production of petro.
But George - what about the title of your 2/5/2020 post?
We have our record and the left has their record.
And ne'er the twain shall meet.
'Cept in real life and ours wins - cause water runs down hill and stupid hurts.
'nuff said.
And odd-boy can't or won't even begin to defend his statement as to just how Obama 'made' the USA the leader in production of petro.
Funny how Obama is held up by the left as a champion against global warming at the same time he is the champion of the highest output of petro by the left.
Maybe the left has no awareness or intelligence.
You decide.
Obama warns that the seas are rising and then scores a 14 million dollar seaside abode.
If you stick a dollar up a lefties ass, they'll sing you any song you want.

Don Bessee

This may be why the prism the left views the world through appears so dark -

Democrats are among the demographic groups with the lowest personal satisfaction in their life, while Republicans are among the most satisfied, a Gallup poll revealed Thursday.

Gallup broke its survey sample into 21 different subgroups, and among them Democrats ranked next to lowest in their personal satisfaction level. The only subgroup to express lower personal satisfaction was the demographic of those earning less than $40,000 a year.

Republicans by contrast were the second most satisfied subgroup of the 21, falling only behind the group with a yearly salary of more than $100,000. A full 80 percent of Republicans said they are “very satisfied” with their personal life, and 93 percent said they are “satisfied.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/02/07/gallup-democrats-much-less-satisfied-with-their-personal-life-than-republicans/

;-)

Walt

Dougy smoking crack AND meth at the same time again.
Keep yapping Berkeley stooge. But then again who am I to tray and stop you from making a total ass out of yourself?

Walt

This idea sure will get the votes.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/02/07/watch-pete-buttigieg-vows-to-free-74k-drug-traffickers-from-federal-prison/

Scott O

oddie 7:32 - "I don't think Obama did anything specific about it but if you loons want to play that game so be it..."
Specific about what?
"about IT".
Clinton the rapist played that game.
IT.
Now we see the defender of the left - Mr odlaw playing the same game.
As I mentioned - you are allowed your own facts, but reality 'Trumps' your bull shit.
odlaw IS bull shit.
odlaw claimed that ",,,and notice no Conservo will admit that it was Obama that made the the US the '''No. 1 producer of oil and natural gas in the world'''"
And now odlaw runs away from his own words.
I'd respect the left just a little if they could only back up just one sentence of their own words with facts or reason.
But they can't.
Or won't
what's the difference?

Scott O

Say kids!
Here's a guy on the left that understands how it works!
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/2/7/21123518/trump-2020-election-democratic-party-james-carville
Money quote - “Eighteen percent of the population controls 52 Senate seats,” Carville said. “We’ve got to be a majoritarian party. The urban core is not gonna get it done. What we need is power! Do you understand? That’s what this is about.”
Not Greta or green weenie stuff or BS about the environment or social justice or the earth coming to an end.
POWER!
When the Dems listened to Carville, they got elected.
But Carville talks only about power. Not all the other BS the Dems are chattering about now.
Because POWER has always been what the Dems have been about.
And there is nothing more powerful than a govt.
Ask the Chinese and the Russians.
Oh - they're all dead - 10s of millions of them.
Guess you can't ask them.

Walt

Dougy forgets all the "burning water" crap from his side.

The Estonian Fox

In case you didn't see this in Patriot Post today. This is real sexism (by men).

https://patriotpost.us/articles/68447-video-afghan-footage-shows-what-actual-oppression-looks-like-2020-02-08

Bill Tozer

DEEP THOUGHTS BY JAMES COMEY

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/02/deep-thoughts-by-james-comey-5.php
———————-
Column: Attack of the 'Fact Checking' Clones

“David Harsanyi at National Review offered a terrific article just taking apart the Washington Post check, calling these fact-checkers “janissaries of the Obama legacy.” (Buckley hat tip for the ten-dollar word.) Harsanyi noted the Post “mentions Obama 13 times in a piece about Trump’s speech.” What resulted was “a litany of partisan arguments masquerading as factual correctives.”

The best part was Harsanyi’s amazement at their evaluation of Trump’s statement that thanks to his “bold regulatory-reduction campaign, the United States has become the number-one producer of oil and natural gas in the world, by far.” It’s true that America became number one in Obama’s second term. But does Obama deserve credit?

Obama ran for president promising to inhibit energy production, coal and oil. A Republican Congress and the Supreme Court foiled his plans. Harsanyi observes: “It’s quite the trick to not only censure Trump for bragging about oil and gas production but then, in the same fact check, confer all the credit on Obama, who did everything in his power — including banning drilling on most public lands — to inhibit exploration and production.”

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2020/02/08/column-attack-fact-checking-clones
——————
CNN slammed for Trump, Comey fact-checker gaffe: ‘Unacceptable for a news organization’

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-fact-checker-trump-comey


Cross Walk

In the 'trump's facts are bullshit' category --trump claims "We're producing jobs like you have never seen before in this country," --BS

During the first three years of trump's term the US added 6.6 million jobs. During the last three years of Obama's administration 8.1 million jobs were added. trump's average monthly employment gain was 182,000. During Obama's last three years 224,000 jobs were added each month. All of trump's job gains have been piggybacked on Obama's policies, yet he claims all the credit. You of courser, forget that Obama inherited Bush's crashed economy and trump inherited Obama's recovery. Big Difference. Trumpy the GOPfather. Can you say goombah goombah goombah?

scenes

re: Cross Walk

Do you think that Presidents run the economy? Are you a child?

Bill Tozer

Comma Man

And you think the Chinese researcher who warned peers on a conference call about the corona virus and was shortly thereafter arrested and thrown in lockup out of site and out of mind for embarrassing (bringing dishonor to) the State has anything to do with Trump praising China on Phase One or Trump did not handle it well or handled the ‘crisis’ soon enough as the signs do not appear until awhile after one is infected......while China tried to put the fire out behind closed doors. The Chi-coms aren’t known as The Bamboo Curtain for nuthin’.

See, when you deal with a one party state, the bureaucrats control what the scientists say and then bureaucrats become the scientists.

What did you want Trump to do? Nuke China? Demand they let us solve their internal health and safety issues? Yes, Trump did not pull out a gun and shoot Putin in the face when they were on the World Stage in Helsinki. Sorry. And Trump hasn’t slapped the shit out of that Pineapple Face in the Phillipines this week.

‘Do you think that Presidents run the entire world?’ Are you a child?’

fish

Posted by: Cross Walk | 08 February 2020 at 09:36 am


Roberta "Cross Tops, Cross Walk, Hot Cross Buns....etc. Cross" Cross aka "Annie Wilkes"


....see this is why you have such difficulty with interpersonal relationships......wink......your constant whining!


"He cheated us.......this isn't fair......he didn't even get out of the cocka-doody car.....!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxFa0w8n8iY

Walt

DAMN.. We could have a real Game of Thrones playing out.
OH the methods Trump could dream up to even the score.

Cross channel

scenes --What does your statement have to do with anything.. You can't refute the facts so you just blow hot air out your ass because that is all you've got as a rebuttal for the truth. Are you a moron?

Fishwrap--is that all you've got? Talk about a whiner who never has anything of relevance to say except wha wha wha Cross is a woman. pathetic .. Clouseau...wrong once again and always.

fish

Posted by: Cross channel | 08 February 2020 at 11:12 AM


Sure I am Roberta....sure I am.......!

fish

Sure am wrong about italics though!

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