Scattershots – 20mar20 (22mar20)

George Rebane

'Most of us will get the Wuhan virus, a small fraction of us will die.  But we will continue business and commerce as usual with all the prudence we can each muster, because the death and destitution a depression will bring will be much worse for all of us.'  A hoped for statement from President Trump.

The lamestream is very quiet about the Covid19 goings on in Europe.  They are focusing all their reporting on Italy which really screwed the pooch on its handling of the virus, and is now the media’s unavoidable posterchild for all the comparisons with the US.  Even there they like to dun our feds (i.e. Trump) on stats like hospital beds per person, and testing (of uncertain effectiveness and reliability).  However, their unconnected dots involve national preparedness and the response effectiveness of nationalized healthcare – those don’t look so good, so nothing is said about that.  Moreover, similar problems are encountered in the rest of the EU countries starting with France, Germany, Spain, …, about which there seems to be a total blackout.  And for good reason.  Keeping Americans up to date on doings all over the continent would really put a big dent in our socialists’ long- and carefully-concocted narrative about the shortcomings of America under Team Trump.  More comprehensive reporting would reveal that President Trump has really done all the right things with what he inherited, and the Europeans are now playing catch-up, starting with the “racist” sealing of their borders.   But according to the Dems and their media lackeys, we are to pay no attention to what’s going on behind that curtain. (Here is a website that a young man up in Washington (more here) set up to fill in this shortfall of information.)

Trump and his team look and say like they’re trying to make this a ‘V-shaped’ recession.  (See also ‘Your money or …’)  If they succeed, they will come out smelling like a rose in November.  The other side of our political spectrum, the socialists, will be doing everything they can to make the recession be shaped like a ‘lazy L’, steep down and slow up (you know, like we had with Obama).  That will make the case for blaming the whole thing on the Trump administration so much easier.  They care not for lost jobs or businesses, the more misery the better.  Why?  It helps support their anti-capitalist narrative, and gives them a basis for policies to enlarge government, shrink the private sector, and gain firmer control of the lives and fortunes of those pesky liberty-loving Americans.  There will definitely be a mounting tension between the central planners and the free market capitalists as this pandemic matures.

[21mar20 update]  Urban lightweight versions of the heavier Bradley Fighting Vehicles on Manhattan streets (here).  These are actually armored personnel carriers, the modern version of the classic Mk113 APC that yours truly spent some uncomfortable hours in.  The government is making a very strong statement that it will not tolerate armed civil unrest during this crisis.  This show of force had only one message as these armored and armed urban fighting vehicles were moved to pre-arranged ready areas that are being set up in local sports stadiums and school football fields.  The inquisitive readers wants to know why this is not covered on the mainstream media, why only Twitter feeds.  Thoughts?

The thin veil of civilization starting to rip.  This Twitter video of looting at Walmart (here) is probably a harbinger of things to come.  No one will starve to death quietly when there’s food to be had in locations unguarded or easily overcome – write that down somewhere if it’s news to you.  Advent of desperate times, therefore, even if you’re ready unlimber your shootin’ arn, it’s better to get on with Alernative #2 sooner than later (here).

[22mar20 update] Sen Richard Burr (R-NC) should resign and be prosecuted for his 13feb20 cashing out of stocks, in violation of the Congressional Stock Act, after a closed-door (not confidential) meeting of the Senate’s Intelligence Committee, the results and reports of which immediately appeared on Twitter – i.e. the information received was public and not privileged, hence no violation of the Stock Act as also interpreted by other senators who sold stock.  Nevertheless, that is the position taken on Sen Burr by the media and many congressional colleagues.  Before running with the herd, I’d like to note from what we’ve been told that 1) no presented testimony foretold stock markets’ behavior, 2) the attendees and the online public had to connect the dots by themselves, 3) there is no law or ethical imperative requiring a legislator to broadcast his personal assessments (especially dire ones that can panic the public) or private transactions from the broadly available information he receives during the course of his congressional duties.  Burr is not a financial expert, but no doubt talked with his financial adviser about the spreading coronavirus.  Given the detailed timeline of who knew/said what and when, Burr’s post-committee statements echoed that of the administration which, in the throes of impeachment proceedings, ballyhooed published data on the economy.  So again, what is the case against Sen Burr?

'We will fight, the virus' is a timely, well-performed, and entertaining remake of the classic 'Sound of Silence' by Simon and Garfunkel.  Enjoy.

Comments

[scenes]

"They are focusing all their reporting on Italy which really screwed the pooch on its handling of the virus"

It's certainly worth a postmortem (so to speak) study to see what went wrong.

Late measures? (They're always late).
Insufficient surge capability in health care? (for what problems and much?)
Local factors?
. Older population
. Stay at home adult children
. (My favorite) A whole slew of Chinese people working in Chinese factories making 'Made In Italy' products who traveled home at the wrong time?
. Urban/mass transit
. Touchy-feely people?

Gotta love it.

https://summit.news/2020/03/12/mayor-of-florence-encouraged-italians-to-hug-a-chinese-before-coronavirus-pandemic-hit/

My favorite story of the day was the Blue Mob group hug on that Sen. Burr character for selling stock when it turns out that Feinstein sold around 3x as much.

I considered pulling all my chips off the table in Jan., but didn't want to take the tax hit. C'est la vie. It wasn't that big of a leap of imagination for those Senators to bail, it's just that Senators have potentially too much effect on the market. Obama's STOCK act didn't hold up real well and you can argue that Senators should be held to the same standards in terms of the whole market as executives are by the SEC for company stocks.

For Feinstein, it won't matter. She could be caught with a dead boy and a dead girl and still get reelected in sunny California.

[Gregory]

I'll put my 0.02$ in on the ugly COVID-19 name put in place by the WHO...

First, that's not the name of the virus, that's the name of the disease the virus causes.

The virus is SARS-CoV-2... "Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Corona Virus 2"

Syndrome is a synonym of disease.

SARS-CoV-1 is just SARS.

So, why not just call this SARS-2? Two syllables. Easy to say.

[fish]

Posted by: scenes | 20 March 2020 at 10:41 AM

My favorite story of the day was the Blue Mob group hug on that Sen. Burr character for selling stock when it turns out that Feinstein sold around 3x as much.

Yeah.....just waiting for Bertie to drop by and bring us all up to date!

[Paul Emery]

Gregory

Do you recommend that Trump also call it SARS-2 instead of the China Virus?

[George Rebane]

re Gregory 1051am - So why not continue calling it the Wuhan virus (there'll probably be more from China) like we have identified all the previous disease epidemics by their locations of origin. And attributing location also serves to appropriately point the finger at the Chinese for their sleazy cover up to get this pandemic started.

[Gregory]

Paul, do you?

What would Chief Runs With Premise say?
https://southpark.cc.com/clips/154073/blankets-covered-in-sars

[scenes]

Paul Emery: "Do you recommend that Trump also call it SARS-2 instead of the China Virus?"

YEAH GREGORY! THAT'S THE IMPORTANT QUESTION OF THE DAY! SHOULD TRUMP HAVE CALLED IT A 'CHINA' VIRUS??? THAT'S RACISS!!!!

lol.

Dude, you're a broadcaster in an area that's supposedly under lockdown. Go do something useful.

[Gregory]

gr 1111am

Wu-han vi-rus is four syllables and has been my preferred handle for the disease and the virus. It might remain my favorite.

I'm on the lookout for something as catchy as "Wu flu" but without the erroneous (aka wrong) label... it ain't influenza.

[fish]

Posted by: Gregory | 20 March 2020 at 11:25 AM

I’ve been enjoying Kung Flu.....!

How about ”General Tso’s Flu”? “Flu with Broccoli”? “Sweet and Sour Flu”?

[Walt]

My vote is for "Kung Flu"....

[Walt]

The Daughter in AZ. is getting rummers that state border crossings will be closed soon.
The fear mongers may be working overtime.

No facts on that, that I can find.

[Don Bessee]

Bad news for the TDS set in spite of the best efforts of the fakenews -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/20/poll-55-of-americans-approve-of-donald-trumps-management-of-chinese-coronavirus-crisis/

;-)

[Gregory]

How about...

Son of SARS?

[Paul Emery]

Gregory

You're the one with the idea that we should the virus SARS-2. Seems like a logical question to you whether you believe that our President whold also call it that. why is that question so difficult for you?

[scenes]

"You're the one with the idea that we should the virus SARS-2. Seems like a logical question to you whether you believe that our President would also call it that. why is that question so difficult for you?"

YEAH GREGORY! WHY IS THAT QUESTION SO DIFFICULT!!

'China virus' is reasonable, as so many epidemics are named after their source locale. Ebola (from the Ebola river), Asian Flu, Spanish Flu & French Disease (regardless of actual epicenter). Older outbreaks tend to be named after their symptoms (typhus,dengue) or the ruler's era (Antonine,Justinian). Perhaps the Trump Plague might be in order once he becomes President for Life.

One problem with 'China virus' is that so many come out of there, you'd end up with 2.0, 3.0, etc.

Maybe the right answer is the physical source. Bat Soup Fever maybe? a new Ted Nugent song. Of course then you end up with the Chimp Plague for HIV, which would be hard to organize benefit concerts for. Disaster!

[fish]

Posted by: scenes | 20 March 2020 at 03:25 PM

....."with Flu you get Egg Roll"!

[Gregory]

Marburg Fever was named after the town in Germany an infected primate was shipped to... Frankfurt and Belgrade,Serbia also.

Marburg is a lot like Ebola.

So,Paul... why do you care what Trump calls the SARS-CoV-2? It's to the favor of the USA to remind people where it came from, yes?

[George Rebane]

Naming the virus, I stand by my 1111am.

[Paul Emery]

Thanks for answering my question Gregory that it doesn't matter to yu what Trump calls the virus. I don't understand though why you made such an intelligent point about calling it SARS-CoV-2

[fish]

So,Paul... why do you care what Trump calls the SARS-CoV-2? It's to the favor of the USA to remind people where it came from, yes?

Punch is the proverbial kid digging in the pile of horse manure......"with all this horseshoe around there has to be a pony in here somewhere".

If he just keeps yammering long enough the very power of his words will remove the Tangerine Tornado from office!

[fish]

...with all this horseshoe

"horseshit"

F'ing autocorrect!

[Buck Sexton]

I see we have a contingent here of, it's all a hoax by the lamestream media to manufacture a crisis. We call that total denial where I come from.
If that is so why is Fauci standing right beside the President and telling America this,

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fauci-predicts-americans-likely-stay-132600306.html

[fish]

Posted by: Buck Sexton | 20 March 2020 at 05:33 PM

dugsKKKi.....really......? Shouldn't you be planning your funeral?

[Bertie loves fishy]

RE: stock sell offs -- you are absolutely correct that Feinstein and other Senators sold stock in what appears to have an insider trading smell to it. So prosecute her and all the rest of them. Come on guys, especially you fishy (roe roe roe your boat) that is what government is all about.... self enrichment.. it has no bounds and no political affiliation beyond what ever will work at the time. Just ask the Donald about using his office to line his pockets. Sadly that is what politics in America is about.

[Scott O]

BS 5:33 - That's an aptly named moniker for you, bro.

"...it's all a hoax by the lamestream media to manufacture a crisis."

You need to stop talking to drunks in the bars.
If you wish to impugn some one, it would help just a teensy bit to provide some facts or citations.

[Scott O]

Bertrand 5:37 - "Just ask the Donald about using his office to line his pockets."
I did and he says he has less wealth than when he took office.
Next question?

[fish]

Posted by: Bertie loves fishy | 20 March 2020 at 05:37 PM

So prosecute her and all the rest of them.

I'm on board Bertie! We can cheer them (the prosecution) on together!

(How did todays day drinking go? Well I hope! Much dirt was dished?)

[Buck Sexton]

In the, it’s all a manufactured crisis by the lame stream press category, the Air Force had to rescue 89 American from Honduras.

[fish]

Posted by: Buck Sexton | 20 March 2020 at 06:20 PM

Good to know Lavender.

[Walt]

It's fun to watch one TROLL keep switching socks.
What will it do when the wifi gets cut off under the bridge?

[Scott O]

BS 6:20 - Funny how the left loves to tell us American health care is the worst, but when the SHTF, where does everyone flock?
Hmmmm?

[Walt]

The start of "not so big" business doing what they can to help out.
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2020/03/20/landlord-tells-restaurant-tenants-to-pay-workers-not-rent-during-coronavirus-outbreak/
"Tuesday, the Young Investment Company, L.L.C. announced on its Facebook page that it would not require its tenants to pay rent for the month of April but wanted them to use that money to pay their employees:

“The company’s downtown Jonesboro properties house several of the area’s favorite restaurants including Eleanor’s Pizzeria, Roots, Main Street Coffee, The Parsonage, and City Wok,” according to KAIT.

[Gregory]

I think it's HIGHlarious how all the leftist news outlets (including NPR) piously call the virus COVID-19... but that ISN'T the name of the virus, even by the WHO standard.

The WHOville residents say... the virus that causes COVID-19 disease is... drum roll, please... SARS-CoV-2.

Get that? Measels is caused by the (German) measles virus, Ebola is caused by the Ebola virus, H1N1 influenza is caused by the appropriatey named flu virus, Marburg hemmorrhagic fever is caused by the Marburg virus, but COVID-19 is caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

Why is that, Punchy?

[Gregory]

Wuhan SARS!!!

[fish]

Trump Hits Back At China By Announcing U.S. Will Also Expel American Journalists

Punchy and jetsy aren’t journalists they should be safe!

https://www.theonion.com/trump-hits-back-at-china-by-announcing-u-s-will-also-e-1842397825

[Bill Tozer]

Hit back at jounalists? Well, they are considered 'non-essential' workers and should go home and stay indoors, just like local guitarists playing in local dives and other non-essential folks.

[Don Bessee]

I guess the question @ 803,45 is who would take them in?? LOL!

;-)

[scenes]

Gregory: "Get that? Measels is caused by the (German) measles virus, Ebola is caused by the Ebola virus, H1N1 influenza is caused by the appropriatey named flu virus, Marburg hemmorrhagic fever is caused by the Marburg virus, but COVID-19 is caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

Why is that, Punchy?"

Well, thank God it didn't originate in Niger.

[Scott O]

Looks like Punchy is a Xi-Cuddler!
Whatever Chairman-For-Life Xi says, Paul Emery falls obediently into line.

[fish]

Posted by: Scott O | 20 March 2020 at 09:58 PM

Looks like Punchy is a Xi-Cuddler!

Punch is just channeling his inner Michael Bloomberg!

[Bill Tozer]

@ 4:07 AM

All the Leftinistas, Lefty media and Globalists have been cuddling with every American hating dictator all my life. Red China is nothing new.

[scenes]

re: BillT@8:33AM

Is it a love of dictators (or Communists) or simply the 'progressive' upside-down hierarchy of importance?

To illustrate, I'll throw out a sample local liberal stack of the order of who matters. This doesn't work for the Blue Mob generally since it's a coalition made up partly of ethnogroups with strong internal loyalties.

So, from important to unimportant:

Yourself and your family (I'll grant them that)
Foreign nationals
Foreign nationals in the US
Protected groups in the US
US citizens and US culture

The last four are an inversion of what you would expect and since dictators are foreign nationals, they rate higher than your neighbors. I expect that xenophilia would quickly change to exophilia if aliens are ever discovered.

[George Rebane]

21mar20 update is posted.

[Walt]

This just in. Every LIB running for office just had a collective orgasm.
https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/03/21/gavin-newsom-allows-voting-by-mail-to-protect-californians-from-coronavirus/
"Gavin Newsom Allows Voting by Mail to Protect Californians from Coronavirus"

[Bill Tozer]

Fuck the lamestream media.

https://trib.al/qSoL2g0

[Mary Wanna]

The video posted shows shoplifters at Walgreens, not looters at Walmart.
Trump continues the lies. Went to the store and still plenty of isles empty of basic supplies.

Here is a fun video for the virus deniers,

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/influenza/#part01

[George Rebane]

BillT 905am - The lamestream's audience numbers are low and plunging. Blacking out Trump's virus briefings will see them plummet to unheard of lows. They'll then be just talking to each other.

[George Rebane]

MaryW 913am - Good point. I wonder where lies the boundary between shoplifting and looting. Thoughts?

[Walt]

Mary just wanna split hairs with a dull knife.

[fish]

Well Mr. Cheong there was a reason that Archie called him "Meathead"!

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1241329171428544512

[scenes]

"I wonder where lies the boundary between shoplifting and looting."

I'll take a shot at that.

Shoplifting is surreptitious, looting is public.

This is obviously looting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjklVVmN65U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uXz-MWChoU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S2pX-VRZXc

Less obvious but still looting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPMrmFYBoRc

Shoplifting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZrEweU8x1M

[fish]

Posted by: Mary Wanna | 22 March 2020 at 09:13 AM

Here is a fun headline for the virus embracers like Mary!

'You are your safest sex partner'...

I'm guessing there won't be much change if any at all in your activities!

https://nypost.com/2020/03/21/nyc-health-department-gets-graphic-in-coronavirus-sex-memo/

[fish]

Posted by: scenes | 22 March 2020 at 10:09 AM

Tragic that those Blue Mob™ unfortunates are forced to steal vital Medical Supplies....err....I mean....uh.....well....WE NEED OUR WEAVE!!!! TAKE THAT SHIT TO THE SUBURBS!

"I DON'T WEAR IT....BUT WE NEED IT!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGBh0ON7vqI

[Walt]

Rough news out of Italy.
https://www.jpost.com/International/Israeli-doctor-in-Italy-We-no-longer-help-those-over-60-621856
"Israeli medical doctor Gai Peleg told Israeli television that in northern Italy the orders are not to allow those over 60 access to respiratory machines."

Some of that socialist gov. health care some have been dreaming about.

[Walt]

Fish... I did find this post off that link amusing.

"Rogan O’Handley 🇺🇸
@DC_Draino
·
15hDear potential Looters,
I wouldn’t.
Sincerely,
The armed Dads stuck in their homes for 3 weeks being forced to watch their kids make Tik Tok dance videos while their 401k plummets

[fish]

Posted by: Walt | 22 March 2020 at 10:51 AM

A warning so explicit that even a troubled youf will understand!

[George Rebane]

Walt 1047am - And those same death committees are built into EVERY nationalized healthcare system in times of epidemic and normalcy. All that is required is a shortage of this or that medical equipment or medicine, and the age-based rationing starts immediately. And when govt is the only customer and in charge of production, shortages become the rule not the exception. This is for what our progressives yearn.

[Walt]

George. I can hardly wait for Emery to put his two cents in.
He is all for that style of GOV. medicine.
Now that the reality of what we have been saying is now for all to see, will he change his worn out tune?
Naa,,,, just change the subject to something along the lines of the evils of horse racing.

[Mary Wanna]

To go along with the Looters vs. Shoplifters what is the difference between Triage and Death Panels?

[Mary Wanna]

Don't agree with Scenes definition.
Shoplifters walk out of the store every time looking like they are innocent. That is how you do it. Don't ask me how I know.;)

[Mary Wanna]

Business as usual,

https://tinyurl.com/ugeddqe

[George Rebane]

MaryW 1109am - Triaging is a function; Death Panel is an established unit in a bureacracy. Death Panels triage as one of their assigned functions. However, most healthcare triaging is done on an ad hoc basis by individuals or authorized groups which assemble for a time and then disband when the need is over.

[fish]

Posted by: Walt | 22 March 2020 at 11:05 AM

I can hardly wait for Emery to put his two cents in....

He won't....he'll wait for the MSM to pick some other Trump related nit and then show up to pivot off that. He really gets excited over scolding us for not getting the vapors over things like.... "Chinese Virus" vs COVID-19!

[Walt]

Mary wanna make excuses.
So "mary",, if your over 60 and "may" have Corona,, your automatically "dead meat".. Tell us how that is "triaging "
Nope,, not even in line for aid.

You need to stop getting your learning from evening TV programs.

[scenes]

moi: "Shoplifting is surreptitious, looting is public."

M. Wanna: "Don't agree with Scenes definition. Shoplifters walk out of the store every time looking like they are innocent"

lol. I don't know what to say here. No wonder Ms. Wanna's posts are of such high quality.

walt: "Israeli medical doctor Gai Peleg told Israeli television that in northern Italy the orders are not to allow those over 60 access to respiratory machines."

Not surprising, but there's probably a bit more to their checklist. Gender? Age? Hypertension? Smoker? Out to the parking lot with you, buster. Here's a tylenol.

I suppose that the Chinese mechanism (not really a plan) for world domination isn't dissimilar to the help the West got from smallpox.

[Don Bessee]

The chi com carona virus -

Communist officials in China hid the extent of the coronavirus outbreak during the early stages of the epidemic, jailing and silencing whistleblowers, a move that allowed the virus to gain a firm hold. The ruling communist party, however, has hailed the recent slowdown of the outbreak as a sign of the superiority of its authoritarian political system.

A study published earlier this month by the University of Southampton, determined that China could have prevented 95 percent of the coronavirus infections plaguing the globe if Beijing had listened to the doctor whistleblowers in Wuhan about the seriousness of the disease instead of silencing and punishing them for speaking out.

“At critical moments, officials chose to put secrecy and order ahead of openly confronting the growing crisis to avoid public alarm and political embarrassment,” the New York Times acknowledged in early February. China has refused to apologize for its mishandling of the outbreak during its initial phase.

Meanwhile, it appears that the WHO has been covering for the ruling communist party in China.
On January 14, the day before the first case to reach the United States reportedly flew from Wuhan to Seattle, Washington, the WHO denied that the disease was spreading through human-to-human transmission.

“Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel [coronavirus] identified in [Wuhan],” the WHO wrote on Twitter.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/22/who-covers-for-china-amid-virus-outbreak-not-contagious-among-humans/

;-)

[D]

Don, the Chi Cons realize they have too many people and old ones are a burden on society. They produce little and consume precious resources.

[George Rebane]

D 1230pm - That's a serious yet plausible charge, and one consistent with the policies of the CCP that is based on their demonstrated historic values and mores (also shared by all 20th century communist dictatorships). What's reprehensible, if the charge pans out, is that they cared not a whit about the global impact that their own draconian population control measures would have - also consistent with their values and (lack of) ethics.

[Don Bessee]

Then there is this -

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-cites-trumps-travel-restriction-as-possible-key-for-u-s-not-becoming-another-italy

;-)

[L]

The Han are yet another tribe who's name for themselves simply means 'people', with all others occupying somewhat lower spots on the totem pole. In fact, they are merely the largest tribe of Mongoloids, as Bengalis are the largest tribe of Caucasians.

[Bill Tozer]

Re: The lamestream is very quiet about the Covid19 goings on in Europe...except the Daily Mail

Oh my, I thought the fine British people were rather reserved. Stiff upper lip and all that stuff.
Go back to Berkeley, ye stink-bottoms!

“'Go home rats!' Furious locals in rural towns and villages erect signs and scrawl messages on beaches telling second home owners to leave amid coronavirus outbreak - but many remain defiant and continue their move to countryside”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8146283/Angry-locals-St-Ives-Cornwall-scrawl-messages-beach-second-home-owners-remain-defiant.html

And no bloody toilet for you! Next time, bring your own.

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