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25 April 2020

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L

It is an interesting read (the Jan timeline) but rest assured, your leftist contributors here, to a man, will refuse to do any such thing; If they don't read it, they can continue to tell their usual lies and assure themselves they haven't heard otherwise. Standard technique of denial

Bill Tozer

With friends like that, who.needs enemas?

https://www.facebook.com/868219436604578/posts/2999928703433630/

scenes

re: California tax policy.

Better watch it on changes to make it more stable. Next thing you know they'll double property taxes in order to keep CalPERS retirees solvent in low tax state golf communities. The spice must flow.

fish

Posted by: scenes | 26 April 2020 at 07:55 AM

Better watch it on changes to make it more stable. Next thing you know they'll double property taxes in order to keep CalPERS retirees solvent in low tax state golf communities. The spice must flow.


In the current environment? You'd have hangings!


Digging the Dune reference though!

scenes

re: fish@8:12AM

What with a stock market on the ropes (and as likely to go down as up), shortfalls in state income tax collection, and a potential decrease in average house values, we should have a pool on which state goes through the equivalent of bankruptcy first.

That would be an interesting aspect to a Weekend at Joe's administration, which does have an opportunity to take place. Just imagine the government spending to bail out the public unions (plus just the general cash flow issues). Dunno if they'll simply borrow money or do something more imaginative like push for pooling of public pensions and everyone's tax deferred savings.

I've always liked the example of the ex-police chief in Roseville. Retired at 50. Pension is $195k. Multiply by 25, a reasonable rule o' thumb, and you get the value of the thing.

fish

Posted by: scenes | 26 April 2020 at 08:45 AM

What with a stock market on the ropes (and as likely to go down as up), shortfalls in state income tax collection, and a potential decrease in average house values, we should have a pool on which state goes through the equivalent of bankruptcy first.


Well if George wants to build another spreadsheet put me down for Illinois.....a state so catastrophically fuckticated financially that it makes California look like an exemplar of of intelligent governance and fiscal prudence.

scenes

I'm afraid that everyone is going to vote for Illinois, so there's probably no point. What's the harm in giving your wife's brother a job at the school district anyhow? It isn't like he's going to show up.

Here's some numbers (for NYC) that are probably conservative.

https://ibo.nyc.ny.us/iboreports/covid-19-toll-on-the-local-economy-a-preliminary-estimate-of-job-losses-and-tax-revenue-declines-april-2020.pdf

Surprisingly, I'm not seeing much movement in Illinois muni rates, aside from a weird bobble in late March. Bond traders are a lot smarter than I am, so there's something I'm missing.

fish

Posted by: scenes | 26 April 2020 at 09:00 AM

I'm afraid that everyone is going to vote for Illinois, so there's probably no point.

Surprisingly, I'm not seeing much movement in Illinois muni rates, aside from a weird bobble in late March. Bond traders are a lot smarter than I am, so there's something I'm missing.


Don't know....but I have been waiting to use the term "fuckticated" in reference to Illinois finances for a while now....thanks for the assist! I expect though that they are counting on a bail out for the first state with national political pull. If this was North Dakota in similar straights I think that you might see some stress in the bond rates

Bill Tozer

Re: North Dakota (kind of)

Last I looked a few days ago, New York and New Jersey accounted for 55% of all the US new plague deaths so far. That is a large huge total concerning they are but spots on the map. First, the preamble off the top of my head without peeking:

1) So, we have a New York Governor that forces nursing homes to accept positive Cov-19 patients, despite newly released e-mails of the nursing home directors begging the state for relief as their staff was overwhelmed. Kindly remember the 55 lost mothers and fathers who died in the Queens nursing home after the Gov ordered two positive elderly patients released from the hospital to be accepted my the Queens nursing homes.

2) We have a governor (darling of the left and potential 2024 Dem nominee for Prez) that botched the ventilator ‘crisis’ big time and now is sending ventilators off to various states.

3) We have the same Governor who took 550 million earmarked for building up PPE and hospital beds and ventilators who took that money, added 200 million more and spent 750 million on a ill fated solar project. Remember Solyndra? New York had their own version.

4) We have NYC destroying a warehouse of hospital beds to make room for something else....off to the dump, then crying for Trump to send them hospital beds.

5) Most important, we have a crowded to the max, packed like sardines, subway and transit system still operating in New York City. The shit for brains grand idea as to reduce the frequency number of bus and subway rides.....which only made MORE people packed into the subway rides and buses. Can you say “Screw social distancing?” Good, I knew you could.

So, back to North Dakota. IF North Dakota or Montana (or Montana and North Dakota accounted for more half the of all C-19 deaths in the USA , would be media being going bonkers and demand we shut the entire state and cordon off Montana and maybe built a wall around it....and send in the national guard to close off all points of entry??? Yes. If more than have of all the epidemic deaths wee in a Red State, what would Mary Wanna be saying today? Probably same as every day.

scenes

I looked up the Cuomo/nursing home story and could only find it on an ABC affiliate, NY Post, and (to their credit) the NYT. Radio silence otherwise.

No doubt the TRUMP IS TELLING US TO INJECT OUR CHILDREN WITH CHLOROX!!! story is running on every media outlet still.

One problem that New York City has is that pretty much everybody else dislikes the place and it's people. That'll always be a problem when they are fishing for help.

Bill Tozer

Scenes @ 11:49 am

I have read at least 5 good stories about the saga over the last few days. Interviews with family members, NY press. conferences on the matter taking just one matter, but the answers a great. Anyway, file that under “Our Leaders want Grannie Dead in New York”.

Older one

https://nypost.com/2020/04/23/coronavirus-patients-admitted-to-queens-nursing-home-with-body-bags/?fbclid=IwAR1gIv-KukqrFblAQimDDEnUAUYuQU-XMSXarWG0hPC8rc3S9XeUkbghWN4

Don’t know where the e-mail story (Post) and the other Post stories disappeared to.

Bertie

in "the comprehensive recommendations from our authorities" category with the stupid leading the stupider .. state Covid hotlines are being inundated with calls asking about injecting and/or drinking Lysol and Clorox. No wonder they voted for trump...

Bill Tozer

Scenes

https://nypost.com/2020/04/26/cuomo-doubles-down-on-sending-coronavirus-patients-to-nursing-homes/

Boy, that Cuono can sure speak out both sides of his ass at the same time. Send more body bags.

And if the nursing home cannot handle C-19 positive patients, then find another nursing home that can. Beam me up, Scotty.

fish

Posted by: Bertie | 26 April 2020 at 02:09 PM


Nahh......I understand your confusion but you have it backwards Bertie.......the Trump Inner-city Democrat Electorate or TIDE outreach program is an attempt to communicate to the Democrat core voter, the one who fell for the Tide Pod Challenge or might be stupid enough to take a common household cleaning product internally. Those who, against all reason, succumb to the siren song of home brewed cleaning product medicine and progressive policies! The ones who shouldn’t be voting at all, the common clay of the New Democratic Party.... you know......morons!

Bertie

Fishy.. did you drink or shoot up your lysol and did it make you feel better? No wonder you voted for trump..

Walt

Berti did the bleach enema. Well,, judging by his newest posts..

fish

Posted by: Bertie | 26 April 2020 at 04:15 PM


Three fingers, over ice, beer chaser.....! And I gotta tell you I feel fabulous no sign of COVID-19 at all!

My breath smells a little like a bus station restroom but I’m pretty sure that will pass.

George Rebane

Gentlemen - this is NOT the Sandbox.

Bill Tozer

Scenes....and the hits just keep on coming. Kill Grandma!!

https://nypost.com/2020/04/21/cuomo-coronavirus-nursing-home-policy-proves-tragic-goodwin/?

Bill Tozer

Well, if drinking fish tank cleaner don’t cure ya, maybe drinking swimming pool cleaners and acid will. Somebody was the first to lick the belly of a frog and found out that particular frog makes you hallucinate. Yep, bet is a couple Dems that will be the first to drink swimming pool supplies. It was a couple of Dems that tried fish tank cleaner. Now, who is going to double down on stupid?

scenes

as such things go, not a bad article.

"Cognitive errors in understanding the 2019–2020 coronavirus crisis"
https://medium.com/the-perfect-meme/article/home

(the ground squirrels, at least what I think of as ground squirrels although they can be 100 feet up a tree, are cuttin' up rough this morning. feisty. the scenesbunker deck is witness to it all)

scenes

"So, dear reader, if you’re a thinking person, how many additional dollars would you add to national debt to prevent another C19 death?"

We'll need to throw in some sort of curve showing the existing value of the person. Probably'll require a few dimensions (age, educational level, current health). This goes against the 1 soul = n quatloos concept but perhaps even God appreciates the economics of the thing.

By the same token, we've always had that problem with heroic efforts on infants and the very elderly using public money. Is it better to be organized (with the evil-sounding 'Death Panels' or at least a Death Flow Chart) or just have local health establishment wing it?

Of course, the insurance wallahs have thought a lot about it...

http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1808049,00.html

At the heart of it all is a Chief Actuary, "a tall, terribly thin old man appeared, covered with worn pen points and ledge sheets, his eyes two empty zeroes".

https://www.preservearticles.com/stories/story-on-a-boy-who-wants-to-become-an-accountant/362

Todd Juvinall

Anyone know why the Chicoms say they stopped the virus in Wuhan? Looks to me that American cases will be 60K.

Bill Tozer

Virginia Health Commissioner Says Schools Could Remain Closed For Two Years

https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/25/virginia-health-commissioner-says-schools-could-remain-closed-for-two-years/

Mary Wanna

Lots of whining about increasing the national debt to fight Virus Wars but nary a peep from Trump's base when the military spending budgets were happily agreed to.

And let's not forget about the Great Wall Remodel!

Turns out we needed masks not bullets. Oh well, learn from your mistakes.

fish

Posted by: Mary Wanna | 27 April 2020 at 10:31 AM


Lots of whining about increasing the national debt to fight Virus Wars but nary a peep from Trump's base when the military spending budgets were happily agreed to.


Nahh.....remember O set the tone by spending his 8 trillion....to save banks and multinationals no less......nobody cared, least of all guilty white leftys thinking they were some how atoning for the past!


"Let's let that nice, well spoken black man spend whatever he thinks is best! And just look at the crease in those trousers!.....swoon


No sense whining about the Tangerine Tornado doing it now "Mary".


Turns out we needed masks not bullets.....


How bout a ball gag? Ball gag would be good for you.....

fish

Hmmmmm.....smells like progressivism.


Where has $850m gone? Bill de Blasio's wife can't account for staggering amount of taxpayer money that the NY Mayor gave her for mental health project


Jeez....that much money would buy 85% of the defective masks that Governor Bateman (D-California) just illegally purchased from the Chinese.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6760503/Bill-Blasios-wife-account-850m-given-mental-health-project.html

George Rebane

re Mary 1031am - Again, wrong on all counts. DoD budgets and programs were horribly under-nourished and in disarray under Obama, inviting bad actors in China, Russia, and Iran to mess with us, world order, and international commerce. And the national security and disease spread aspects of secure borders that Trump ferreted out early is now practiced by all nation-states with globalism finally being slowed in the coming Grand Reassessment of international relations. All the Dems have been able to do during all of this is attempt to hide that they're talking out of both sides of their mouths, while vainly attempting to keep Bumblebrain from torpedoing his campaign.

Bill Tozer

I agree with Dr. Rebane. I have read so many charts and graphs that it is beyond boring. How about some VDH instead?

https://amgreatness.com/2020/04/26/our-virus-is-a-violent-teacher/

Bill Tozer

"Let’s begin with an understanding: the Wuhan-virus was the rare public crisis without a sufficient body of peer reviewed research to form the sorts of crystalline policy white papers issued at places like the Hoover Institution"

https://thenationalpulse.com/politics/how-trumpism-succeeded/

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