Sandbox -26may20

[What remains the point of debates which are empty of citations that are commonly accepted by the debating parties?  As I have pontificated here for some years, and am now joined by my betters like Victor Davis Hanson among others, we are so polarized that we no longer share any cognitive common ground.  In other words, we arrive at venues like RR, not only with our own opinions, but also with our own unique ‘facts’ (thereby giving lie to Sen Moynihan’s dictum).  The ensuing melee is then composed of nothing but ejecta of hot air flung at the other which make no lasting impact, let alone changing anyone’s beliefs.  And yet, … and yet we continue to regularly assemble on both sides of this arena to dance our ferocious dances, making threatening sounds while shaking our spears and shields at the other side, like the natives of primitive tribes or beasts of the jungle that learned to wage faux ‘wars’ without really harming each other.  Realizing this, perhaps we can all join in the attempt to discover the point of it all.  gjr]

Comments

[Bill Tozer]

Oh my. Looks we are Day Two on Debbie Does the Dallas Cowboys.

Hey Punch, remember that time some bikers showed up at the White House and one biker had a woman engraved on his vest with pistols hanging off her nipples? Man, you were sure disgusted at the very sight of unclad boobies in the WH....or was it the pistols that got you going for a full day? Bet the sight of enchanting bosoms gave you a case of the heebee geebees almost as bad the case of the faints that the Guns hanging off her aerials gave ya.

Yep, our Victorian Puritan Moral Preener was howling about those little breasts and little guns. Guns and roses.

Did you know that Trump used STOLEN e-mails (Podesta’s campaign e-mails found readily available on line) and read them out loud at his thunderous high energy ‘blow the roof’ off rallies? Yep, Trump used STOLEN PROPERTY to affect the outcome of the 2016 elections AND Trump also invited Bikers for Trump and Biker Vets for Trump and a group of ‘Democrat Removal Service’ Bikers at the White House!!! The People’s House of all places!!

And now it’s reverse Cowgirls. Oh, mothers don’t let your sons grow up to be Cowboys. High em high. I can’t wait for Day Three.

For the record, I adore and like breasts on a sweet maiden. There is something magical about them, something awe inspiring, something worth admiration. I stand in awe of all the ladies. Go ahead Punch and run around covering everybody up. Well, at least the ladies you have been seen with. They are the best reason there are shelter in place orders.

[Walt]

Once again Emery proves he has NO clue what he says.

Furthermore, as long as the violence is one sided (LIBshits beating on Concervitives) he's fine with it.
No once has he spoke out against the LIBshit basement dwelers
violent acts. Nope, never, nada, nyet.
Emery has gone radio silent whenever pressed on it.

So Emery,, just when was your FIRST knowledge of proud boys?
Smoking a bong with Mary?

[Gregory]

punch 1227pm

Perhaps I've been too hasty with you... could you share the link you got that quote from?

If you do post the link, and you should have been aware of a different context, you will hear about it.

[Bill Tozer]

For Gregory

https://i1.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2020/05/Screen-Shot-2020-05-18-at-3.40.10-PM.png?w=1000&ssl=1

[Bill Tozer]

What’s Trump hiding?

NO NEWS IS BETTER THAN FAKE NEWS

“Speaking of misleading the public, the Post observes that the Obama administration continued to release projections during the last recession even though they were unflattering.

True. However, Tenreiro reminds us that Obama’s projections underestimated GDP contraction by nearly 50 percent. They were, in a sense, fake news. No news is a better option.“

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/05/no-news-is-better-than-fake-news.php

[Walt]

Looks like Emery BAILED... His selective editing of the facts has bit him in that boney ass once again.

He gets his editing tips from rawstory.

[Mary Wanna]

Will chicken hawk Trump now be praising ChiCom Jinping once again?

https://www.ocregister.com/chinese-lawmakers-endorse-hong-kong-national-security-law

[Walt]

How dare these guys ruin looter's fun!
Emery and he/she will NOT be happy.
https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/28/armed-citizens-looting-minneapolis-george-floyd-riots/

This will really get ya' wizzing yourselves.
"A small group of self-described “heavily armed rednecks” guarded several shops against looters Wednesday night as riots erupted across Minneapolis.

When Minnesota Reformer reporter Max Nesterak asked two men with rifles standing outside a tobacco shop to identify themselves, one man responded, “free Americans.” "

And something Emery and he/she won't say,(because they haven't)
"the men expressed support for the protests sparked by the death of George Floyd while he was in police custody, they condemned the violence and looting taking place."

Why is it that it's always the Lefties that are violent and destructive?
It never happens with Conservative "protests".

[George Rebane]

PaulE 1025am - Well OK. Then I take it you have no problem with the violent pronouncements of Mad Max and her other House colleagues; and their unanimous silence on publicly repudiating the violent threats over the years from the equally extreme hard-left factions.

And everyone would be most interested in your answer to Walt's 153pm.

[Walt]

Great Liberal constituents...
https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/28/george-floyd-protesters-attack-old-woman-wheelchair-knife/
Tell me again "low life thug" doesn't apply.

[Don Bessee]

No chi com cuddling as some troll inferred -

The New York Times reported Thursday that the U.S. is poised to announce they will pull visas from Chinese students who have connections to universities tied to the Chinese military, perhaps as early as this week.

The objective is to suppress suspected intellectual property theft and espionage that Chinese students have been accused of during their studies in the U.S. and could affect between 3,000 and 5,000 Chinese students at American universities.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2020/05/28/report-us-to-pull-study-visas-from-chinese-students-linked-to-military-schools-in-china/#3fa2ec4a7d44

;-)

[Paul Emery]

I never claimed the lefties are never violent or destructive. there are extreme factions on both sides. However here you have the President of the United States openly endorsing the Cowboys for Trump that claim Democrats should be shot or hung with no exceptions. I'm sure you don't support that George yet you support Trump who actively ane recently does support this organization. Shouldn't a proclamation like that be investigated by the FBI and should they be allowed to carry firearms after making those death threats?

[Paul Emery]

Already posted the link several times Gregory. check it out

[Don Bessee]

She went to get her kid medicine and found target looted -

“I went to the rally in Minneapolis on the first day after Mr. Floyd was killed, and I thought that it was going to be a rally. But after I got there, and was there about 30 minutes, I realized it wasn’t a rally. It was going to be a riot. So I left.”

She said that young people “weren’t following the elders who had organized the rally.”

She added: “The destruction that they did to their own community — what are people going to do who live in those communities, and they need those resources?”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/28/past-naacp-president-blasts-looters-these-motherfkers-need-to-go-home/

;-)

[Todd Juvinall]

Paul Emery | 28 May 2020 at 02:23 PM

Please grow up. We read your tripe here and it is always the same. Right bad, left good. You are a broken pathetic record of hate. And you are a sick man with TDS. Please stop supporting the violence of the leftwing loons and start trying to bing peace to America.

[Paul Emery]

Of course he withdrew his comment Gregory. But the fact is he said it and Trump endorsed the Cowboys without hesitation.

[George Rebane]

PaulE 223pm - I don't condone any of that kind of talk from either side. But it happens. And no one has taken guns away from the black factions who publicly brandished and threatened at a number of venues including polling stations. To me, socialists like Obama, promising to fundamentally transform America, are a much greater threat to millions of lives and limbs, and nobody suggested taking the presidency away from him. It all depends what kind of land you want to live in. I call your attention to -
https://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2020/05/seize-the-moment.html

[Don Bessee]

Everyone has had enough of the chi coms -

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/05/28/chinese-communist-propaganda-tv-network-faces-ban-britain/

;-)

[Walt]

Nice deflection Emery,, now.. Just who and where are those violent "right factions" you speak of? Can you do better than a hardly heard of "proud boys"? ( spawned by the violent ANTIFA)
Hell.. You NEVER speak out AGAINST Libby violence,, just your usual crickets.

[Bill Tozer]

Walt and Dr. Rebane, 1:53 & 2:00 pm

Yep, it is kinda hard to forget about the rioting and injury to humans committed down at Berkeley cause Milo was invited to speak. It’s commonplace across the liberal infestations of the US, Canada, and Uk that the authorities cannot guarantee safety for speakers the Libs disagree with.

Let that sink in. “Can’t guarantee their safety”. Really sez it all.

Remember U-Lock in the sock? A Latino US Marine beaten up because he was mistaken for a Trump supporter blocks from the Antifa mayhem. Oh, the list is too long, too many montages of Lefty violence against the elderly (if they thought they were going to vote for Trump), Eric Holder’s recent comments, Obama’s “if they bring a knife, you bring a gun”, Mad Max, and a long line of Celebrities touting everything from physical harm to the murder of Trump...or the Covington School boys.

Why anyone would listen to those coked up Celebrity air heads is beyond me. Actors, generally, are stupid. Ok, generally and collectively actors are not very smart. Besides, they have nothing to say that is worth listening to, yet think what they say is important! No self awareness. They actually think everyone (besides their groupies) values anything they say. Like having Greta speak on a COVID-19 townhall panel, ROFLMAO.

Anyway, I can’t remember a bunch of flag waving Americans turn into a violent mob and go chasing folks down the street to beat on their heads, with no exceptions for the elderly, women, or children. Can’t remember a demonstration or protects by the Right that turned into destruction of private property, overturned cop cars, arson, mayhem, and of course, rioting. Can’t recall Conservatives leaving a trail of carnage after a rally, big or small. It’s not our thing. See, we believe in peaceful assembly.

The left uses violent people as their tool to shut down opposition. The Occupy Wall Streets used the raping and doping boys in the drum circles as their enforcers, just as today’s Progressives use Antifa as their goons to get the job done.
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Walt.... “heavily armed rednecks”, lol. Well, it’s time we got the band back together.

https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10157404436815914/?type=3&theater

“heavily armed rednecks.”, lol. Well, it’s time to put the band back together cause of all those Irredeemables out in redneck land. Dregs of Society, they be. If you see them, tell them they are not welcome here and DRIVE THEM OUT!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri83v76PXdE

[Gregory]

punch

The rawstory link you shared doesn't have any context, but then rawstory is a highly biased muckraking site.

THEY got their story from The Daily Beast, also a Democratic slanted source, but with some journalistic ethics. They wrote:
"“I’ve come to a place where I’ve come to a conclusion where the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat,” Griffin said to cheers at a rally at a New Mexico church. He was there to defy a public safety order pertaining to the coronavirus.

Griffin, a county commissioner in the state, hastily added that he only meant Democrats who were dead in “the political sense”—an effort at cleanup he repeated in an interview with The Daily Beast on Tuesday."

Thus avoiding a Chuck Toddism of ignoring what the person said.

Really, Paul, it's sad what passes for a news director at the local lefty community FM station.

[Walt]

Wait a minute,, there were those REAL VIOLENT Tea Party protests. SWAT teams called in. Police in riot gear. LIBS "just knew" the Tea Party was going to burn down everything in sight.
Track down Lefty politicians and draw and quarter them in the public square.. Just like the good old days.

Just the mention of "The Tea Party" had LIBS pissing where they stood.

Yet the only damage was to the trash and garbage that was there before we showed up.. Gone... The grounds look better than after a city parkes worker done his gov. job.

[Walt]

Rawstory? 🤣🤦‍♂️ Called that one!
Keep going Emery,, you sure know how to dig your own hole.
No help needed from me!😎🤣

[Walt]

That reminds me.. OK Emery,, Kathy Griffin holding Trump's severed head? Who's head where the cowboys holding?

[Bill Tozer]

Oh Walt. Katy Griffin has a new prop. At least the Center for the Arts cancelled that wingnut, so you gotta give the Center is due. Anyway, Katy’s new prop...in addition to the head.

F**K TRUMP: Kathy Griffin Suggests Stabbing Trump With Syringe 'With Nothing But Air Inside It'

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/lindsay-kornick/2020/05/27/fk-trump-kathy-griffin-suggests-stabbing-trump-syringe

Yep, one good air bubble hitting the heart can be the last thing you do.
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Dr. Rebane @ 2:44 pm

I have no intention to take away from your new post Sieze the Moment, but I read Scottie Hart’s column and as to be expected, Ms. Cook posted the Cowboy quote about the only good Dem is a dead Dem, about the rope or firing squad. I could not stop laughing. Her post had nothing to do with Scottie’s column, just had to let us all know that Orange Man Bad is very very bad.

She got a bad case of TDS and can’t focus on nothing else. Hmmm. Sound familiar? Anyway, I would like to direct the readers’ attention to the new post written by our gracious longsuffering host.

[Paul Emery]

So Gregory in your view he only meant Democrats that are dead in “the political sense” should be shot or hung. Thanks for clarifying that. And you apparently support him as does Trump otherwise why should you care to make a comment.

[Gregory]

"So Gregory in your view..."

There is absolutely no chance that any sentence from Punch that starts like that will be followed by an accurate summary of what I wrote.

I comment on your bullcrap editing and snide asides, Paul.

If Trump wins the Schadenfreude will be wonderful.

[Walt]

That's all you got Emery? You keep repeating the same old crap like a dementia sufferer.
Answer my above question Emery, Why do you dodge it?

[Walt]

How bout those armed "rednecks" Emery? Do more protecting of business that the cops. Yaa... Ignore that too.

[Walt]

George will love this.
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/army-builds-new-18-6-mile-range-tank-killing-weapon

[Bill Tozer]

Putting the small nitpicker petty stuff aside for the moment (don’t sweat the small stuff), here is some grown up stuff:

‘New FBI document confirms the Trump campaign was investigated without justification’

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/499586-new-fbi-document-confirms-the-trump-campaign-was-investigated-without?

Not good. No FBI investigation can be opened with justification. They had no evidence then, they have nothing now.
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Big Stuff Exit Question:

Did Susan Rice write her CYA “by the book, by the book, by the book” e-mail to herself on Jan 20, 2017 at noon to protect Obama, or did Obama sign an Executive Order on Jan 12, 2017 (which allowed for the expansion of authorized unmasking from a few to many departments and personnel throughout gov’t) to protect Susan Rice....and all those who were involved in illegal spying on an opponent’s Presidential campaign?

In other words, did Obama sign the EO on Jan 12, 2017 to protect those involved in the illicit abuse of intelligence to spy on political opponents?

Looking that way.

[Paul Emery]

Gregory

Yes, I came to a conclusion about your opinion or view as I put it. Sorry you can't defend what you claim to believe. You always find a grammatical way to weasel out. Obvious for everyone except you're fellow COJ's that reside on this blog day and night.

This is getting kind of boring so do what you can to pick up the dialogue for the sake of George's readers.

[Walt]

Run from the facts Emery,, that's what you do.
You got caught manipulating them.. Again. How come you always have a hard time backing up your bullshit?

[fish]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 28 May 2020 at 04:43 PM

This is getting kind of boring so do what you can to pick up the dialogue for the sake of George's readers.

I'll say…….

Hey….I thought the "readers" belonged to both you and george?

[Walt]

"Boring"? Yaa,, he still ain't tired of losing.

[Walt]

Hey EMERY!! You pal Biden loses MORE voters.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/05/28/multiple-college-democrat-groups-refuse-to-support-joe-biden-over-tara-reade-allegations/
Yaa,,,, keep rubbing that poll.

[Gregory]

It isn't a "grammatical" weaseling out as you put it, Paul. It's FUCKING LOGIC.

What I wrote is not what your brain cells told you I wrote.

[George Rebane]

re BillT 305pm - PaulE needs to answer to all these blatantly asymmetrical actions in the public forum of the extreme Right and the extreme Left. Remaining silent on the 1,000 atrocities of the Left, to concentrate on the one atrocity of the Right doesn't cut it, especially if you want to make a reasonable point on these pages. Without that recognition, Paul's arguments ring hollow.

[Walt]

"This is getting kind of boring so do what you can to pick up the dialogue for the sake of George's readers."
How Emery signals "RETREAT!!!" High ponytailing it outa here.

[Walt]

Look what Twitworld let slide.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/05/28/twitter-no-warning-on-misleading-viral-photo-of-minneapolis-cop-at-trump-rally/

It's a slam on Trump, and Trump supporters.. Good to go.

[Bill Tozer]

Call it 'owning a lib.'

Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany Nukes CNN’s Chris Cuomo Over Hypocritical Attack On Hydroxychloroquine

https://www.dailywire.com/news/press-secretary-kayleigh-mcenany-nukes-cnns-chris-cuomo-over-hypocritical-attack-on-hydroxychloroquine

[Paul Emery]

George

Are you defending the Cowboys for Trump and his endorsement of them?

[Walt]

Damn Emery, back in dementia mode? You have already been busted on that lame ass "edited" question.
You have question to answer of your own. WHY EMERY WHY!!!!????

[Don Bessee]

Trump and Pompeo outmaneuver those mutha mullahs again! -

Iran and Venezuela attempted to outmaneuver American sanctions by establishing a new oil partnership.

Two Liberian-flagged, Greek-owned ships that “were en route to Venezuela carrying Iranian fuel, scrapped their deliveries after the U.S. threatened sanctions,” a senior U.S. official told Fox News.

First reported by The Wall Street Journal, the ships were expected to arrive in Venezuela as the final delivery in a previously planned five-oil-tanker shipment, an effort that the Venezuelan regime has said is a partnership to thwart the American sanctions.

Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro said in a televised address: "We are two rebel revolutionary peoples that are never going to kneel before North American imperialism.”

But the Greek-owned ships would have been unable to access international banking and maritime insurance had they carried out the shipment.

U.S. officials have been in direct communication with the ships, which are no longer heading to Venezuala but heading south off the coast of Senegal near Liberia, according to The Wall Street Journal.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-disrupts-iranian-fuel-deliveries-venezuela-official-says

;-)

[Don Bessee]

Hey look a one two punch landed on those mutha mullahs -

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/05/28/pompeo-announces-end-obama-era-iran-sanctions-waivers/

;-)

[fish]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 28 May 2020 at 06:38 PM

George

Are you defending the Cowboys for Trump and his endorsement of them?

George just tell him no....retweets are not endorsements.

[Walt]

Seems rednecks with guns is so frightening to Emery, he can't even speak about it. How dare them protect a business from looters.
Hear the news Emery? A shopkeeper killed a man trying to loot his business.. He went to jail.. Is that justice Emery?
So looting is OK?

[Don Bessee]

If it were not for double standards they would have none at all -

Minneapolis Police Union President Lt. Bob Kroll confirmed on Wednesday that Derek Chauvin — the officer caught on tape resting his full weight on Minnesota man George Floyd’s neck shortly before he died — was not on stage at an October campaign rally held by President Donald Trump.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/05/28/twitter-no-warning-on-misleading-viral-photo-of-minneapolis-cop-at-trump-rally/

;-)

[Paul Emery]

George is a big boy fish. H can make his own decision as to how to respond.

[Walt]

LOL!! The silent treatment from the buzzard of Broad st.
The mark of a dude who knows he can't win the debate.
Still waiting on where Conservative "protests" turned violent as you claimed.

[fish]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 28 May 2020 at 08:03 PM

Was just hoping that if given a response you might shuffle off somewhat satisfied and stop wasting everybodies time this evening.

You were an annoying child weren’t you.......

[Walt]

Fish. It fun to watch him not getting his way.
Cowboys really has him in hiding in the dark.

[Walt]

Does Emery forget there are cowboys all over Nevada county?
Haven't met one yet that doesn't support Trump.

[Don Bessee]

Tru dat -

Mike Huckabee predicts Biden-Trump debate will be 'very ugly sight,' Trump will 'make sausage out of' ex-VP

https://www.foxnews.com/media/mike-huckabee-biden-trump-debate-very-ugly

;-)

[George Rebane]

Paule 638pm - See my 244pm.

[Don Bessee]

Nothing to see here move along, move along -

The duplicate mail-in ballot issues come as Allegheny County officials have reached a settlement with the Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) to clean up its voter rolls, which reportedly include 1,600 dead people, close t0 7,500 voter registrations flagged as duplicates, 1,523 registered voters who claim to be 100-years-old and over, and 1,178 registered voters who are missing dates of birth.

Still ongoing is Judicial Watch’s lawsuit against the state of Pennsylvania for reportedly having more than 800,000 inactive voters on its voter rolls.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/28/pennsylvania-officials-admit-duplicate-ballots-were-mailed-out-to-voters/

;-)

[Paul Emery]

Oh Walt you're so dramatic.
It's your show now. you're the winner

Thanks for the workout CJ's. You've still got it. Have fun

[Walt]

"Cj"s you say? well,, your the head pivot man.. What an honor to have Emery.

See Emery? another see's the light and doesn't want to be branded a loser alongside "Tuna finger" Biden.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nevada-sen-catherine-cortez-masto-withdraws-from-consideration-biden-vp-pick

No saving face Emery, no matter how hard you try.
Your starting to act like that NK, Lil' fat kid.
"Me win..." (after getting his ass handed to him.)

[George Rebane]

Will PaulE respond to Don’s 900pm?

[Walt]

And one more thing for O buzzard of Broad St. to gum on,
Voter fraud.
https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2020/05/28/steve-scalise-mailing-ballots-to-non-citizens-is-definition-of-voter-fraud/
"Automated mailing of ballots to all persons on inaccurate voter rolls “is the definition of voter fraud,” said House Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R-LA), critiquing Democrat proposals to standardize mail-in voting"

"Democrats want ballots sent to everyone without consideration of their legibility to vote, stated Marlow. “Democrats are going to use it to win this election and maybe future elections,” he added."

Emery. Illegals get mail too. " A ballot in every box"

Here in Ca. you have motorvoter... Remember? Plenty of unscrupulous DMV workers around to "sign up" an illegal.

"No" you say?

There is already vote tampering in the postal system.
(you should know that since I posted the facts on that.)

No you shuffle off now, and worry about cowboys for Trump.

(your so fun to mess with)

[Don Bessee]

@922 - Emery. Emery, Emery.

;-)

[Don Bessee]

Bad news for the open boarders set and creepy grampa joe -

A business-funded poll backfired by showing that 56 percent of swing voters favor President Donald Trump’s decision to curb legal immigration for 60 days.

Only 15 percent of claimed independents in the May 6-8 poll of almost 2,000 likely voters strongly disapproved of Trump’s April 22 policy, according to the survey commissioned by the D.C.-based Bipartisan Policy Center. Also, 14 percent of respondents declined to state an opinion, suggesting even more support for Trump.

The BPC is a pro-migration advocacy group backed by businesses and run by Washington insiders and corporate chiefs. In 2014, the BPC was a cheerleader for the “Gang of Eight” amnesty and cheap labor bill, which was finally stopped by GOP primary voters in June 2014.

The poll results are a problem for business lobbyists, who fear Trump will extend his popular temporary policy. The results are also a problem for the BPC, which favors a higher inflow of consumers, workers, and renters, which can nudge down wages and drive up real estate values.
The public, in contrast, wants less legal immigration and more jobs and higher wages for Americans.

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2020/05/28/business-poll-backfires-shows-public-wants-less-migration/

;-)

[Don Bessee]

Don't believe your lyin' eyes says the fakenewsman, its just a protest, no really -

https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-anchor-says-minneapolis-carnage-is-mostly-a-protest-as-building-burns-behind-him

;-)

[Bill Tozer]

@ 10:41 pm
Rioting and looting are not protests. There is zero room for looting in any protest. Rioting is not a demonstration, just a plain o riot. But you knew that. :).

I remember reading a good long in-depth report in the LA Times during the Rodney King riots that broke out when the officers were not charged. The reporter saw a young man walking with his arms full carrying a stack of Nike shoe boxes he looted. The reporter asked the man if he was looting because of Rodney King. The man being questioned replied, “Rodney King? Which team does he play for?” That was how the article ended.

[Bill Tozer]

How many hours here were wasted on battling Fakenews? Too many for ponder. I guess it was not wasted time. Battling the Liberal lies and the Enemy of the People to get to the truth is worth the effort.
So many to choose from, so little time.

Eight Times the Liberal Media Screwed Up on Trump-Russia in 2017

#8. Four Does Not Equal Seventeen
The media loved to tweak Trump by repeating how the evidence proving Russian meddling in the election was the unanimous verdict of U.S. intelligence. “All 17 intelligence agencies have agreed Russia was behind the hack of Democratic email systems and tried to influence the 2016 election to benefit Trump,” the Associated Press noted on June 22.

Three days later, The New York Times published a piece that scolded Trump because “he still refuses to acknowledge a basic fact agreed upon by 17 American intelligence agencies that he now oversees: Russia orchestrated the attacks, and did it to help get him elected.”

This media talking point was used by journalists such as NBC’s Andrea Mitchell to speculate about the President’s mental health, as she did on MSNBC’s Morning Joe on June 30: “I’m certainly not a doctor, but I worry about him not having acknowledged the depth of the Russian hacking. We have 17 intelligence agencies all in accord, in a rare degree of agreement, with a high consensus, that it was Vladimir Putin who ordered this.”

But both The Times and The Associated Press eventually back-peddled on those hyped claims, admitting that only three agencies (FBI, CIA and NSA) had reviewed the intelligence, which was then issued by a fourth, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

The Times corrected first, on June 29, admitting: “The assessment was not approved by all 17 organizations in the American intelligence community.” The next day, the AP issued a correction that encompassed four separate articles: “In stories published April 6, June 2, June 26 and June 29, the Associated Press reported that all 17 U.S. intelligence agencies have agreed that Russia tried to influence the 2016 election to benefit Donald Trump....Not all 17 intelligence agencies were involved in reaching the assessment.”

Meanwhile, the media’s mis-reporting remains ubiquitous online, such as this USA Today story from October 2016 with the arrogantly false headline: “Yes, 17 intelligence agencies really did say Russia was behind hacking.”

No. No, they didn’t.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2018/01/05/eight-times-liberal-media-screwed-trump-russia-2017

Well, I suppose the two day marathon Punchy session could have been worse. He could have spent the last two days expressing his disgust and outrage over Melania’s shoes. Scandal of the year. Horrifying for my mind to even consider that I responded. Now, that was a waste of time, but Punchy was just following the script he was given.

[Mary Wanna]

The truth comes out, children are ballot harvesting. They are stealing ballots out of mailboxes and voting Dem. - so says the Chief Buffoon Trump

[fish]

Posted by: Mary Wanna | 29 May 2020 at 06:33 AM

I suppose it's a good thing when you speak the truth even inadvertently......

[Walt]

Republicans will only take so much before it's said "enough, is enough." The Right has been getting assaulted far too much.
It won't be just the cowboys Lefties will be in fear of.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/individual-allegedly-fired-gun-shot-into-republican-field-office-during-trump-campaign-event-rnc-says

[fish]

Posted by: Walt | 29 May 2020 at 08:21 AM

It won't be just the cowboys Lefties will be in fear of.

Ya just can't resist poking a frightened old man with a pointy stick can ya?

[Walt]

OH.. It get better Fish!!
CNN crew gets hauled away to the pokey! And in living color!
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/05/29/watch-cnn-reporter-crew-arrested-during-live-minneapolis-broadcast/
Poetic justise.
Lets see Emery toss his walker across the room, spouting "freedom of the press".

[fish]

Posted by: Walt | 29 May 2020 at 08:34 AM

Well....I confess that I'm not thrilled about this......but given how Antifa treats the media they were probably arrested for their own safety!

[Mary Wanna]

Wally: it is called "police state" tactics.

[Walt]

Good call he/she,, you DO know Minneapolis is LIBERAL run town.
So you should be fine with it.

[Walt]

Now that the pavement apes have burned down their own town, they better not ask for Taxpayer money to rebuild.
Those big stores like Target should stay away, and not come back.

[Walt]

The joys of living under LIB rule.
"Leftist MN Gov Walz, Leftist Minneapolis Mayor Frey, and Leftist MN AG Ellison have basically told the owners and employees of the criminally looted and destroyed businesses that no one will be prosecuted and that they must bare the burden of this anarchy."

[Paul Emery]

Trump should be applauding the Cnn arrests because he believes in freedom FROM the press.

[Walt]

It's OK to lock up fake news Emery.

[Bill Tozer]

Wally, it’s called police state tactics. No, it’s called Banana Republic tactics

‘Exposing the hoax’

“Mueller’s two Russia indictments, of the troll-farmers and hackers, were always better understood as press releases than criminal prosecutions because everyone knew no Russian would ever be extradited to face the music. But Mueller botched the narrative exercise by charging businesses, evidently not foreseeing that they bore no risks of imprisonment or (as Moscow-based shells) ruinous fines. They retained experienced counsel, who showed up in court, demanded to be given all the discovery, and vowed to take the matter to trial. Ultimately, after first grudgingly conceding that they could not connect the social media ads to the Russian government (though an oligarch said to be close to Vladimir Putin was complicit), prosecutors dismissed the case rather than chance an embarrassing rout at trial. In the run-up, their theory of prosecution was shown to be untenable, and the social media ads themselves were ludicrous — childish, mostly legal under campaign rules, and costing just pennies (the defense claimed the few arguably actionable ones amounted to about $5,000 in expenditures). The suggestion that the troll-farm operation had any effect on the multibillion-dollar ocean of U.S. campaign spending was laughable.

Hacking has taken a hit, too. That is largely because Trump finally dispatched a pit bull to take on the intelligence community. The president eased out acting National Intelligence Director Joseph Maguire, installing in the post Richard Grenell, his hard-charging ambassador to Germany.

Grenell staged a showdown to force Trump nemesis Adam Schiff, the House Intelligence Committee chairman, to disclose hearing testimony from dozens of witnesses that had been kept under wraps for over a year. Among the most startling revelations was the testimony of Shawn Henry, president of CrowdStrike. That is the private cybersecurity firm retained by Democrats to conduct forensic analysis on the party’s servers, whose hacking by Moscow is the collusion narrative’s ne plus ultra. The Obama Justice Department and the FBI could have compelled production of the servers to conduct their own examination. Instead, they delegated to the private firm with deep Democratic ties, notwithstanding the latter’s motive to blame Russia and, derivatively, Trump’s campaign. No wonder Schiff did not want the testimony to see the light of day: Henry admitted — under oath, more than two years ago — that CrowdStrike has no solid evidence that Russian government-directed hackers stole the emails.

More brazen still were the admissions by official after official that they had no proof of any Trump campaign conspiracy with Russia. Publicly, former CIA Director John Brennan intimated that Trump was guilty of treason; former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper suggested he was a Putin asset; McCabe bragged of opening a criminal investigation against the president (for obstruction) after Comey’s firing. But in quiet hearing rooms, under oath, they had nothing. No evidence of conspiracy. The pundits knew that. Schiff and the Democrats who choreographed their testimony knew it. They went on for years, though, encouraging the public and foreign governments to believe the president of the United States could possibly be a Kremlin mole. So did Comey, in bracing public testimony in March 2017, by which time it was already patent that there was no case against Trump and his campaign.“

(And a lot more)
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/exposing-the-hoax
———————-
Gregory writes:

"Do you realize how incendiary it would be for the 2018 elections if Strzok knew he was taking DNC opposition research bought from Russians to the FISA court in order to get permission to spy on their opposition? "

Massive speculation and "what if" Gregory

that's exactly what you criticize me for.

Posted by: Paul Emery | 07 December 2017 at 08:33 PM

[Walt]

This is how A-HOLE Libs operate.
Trump calls them what they are,"thugs" and Proggys twist that into a "call for violence".
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-violence-minneapolis-tweet
"Hillary Clinton on Friday accused President Trump of “calling for violence against American citizens” when he tweeted about cracking down against riots in Minneapolis"

Yup,, let'm burn down the city till there is nothing left to burn.. Then watch them cry for a handout to rebuild.

[Bill Tozer]

SHELDON WHITEHOUSE BECLOWNS HIMSELF

“Thus, as far as Whitehouse knows, Judge Wilkins is every bit as responsible for the allegedly “Trumpy” order as Judge Rao is. Yet, Whitehouse seized on the order to sling dirt at Rao.

Is it worth noting that Rao is an Asian-American? It wouldn’t be, except that if a Republican politician indulged in rank name-calling against a female judge from a minority group, he would be accused of racism and/or sexism.

Sheldon Whitehouse is a disgrace. He makes his Democratic Judiciary Committee colleagues — even the likes of Dick Durbin, Mazie Hirono, and Cory Booker — look measured by comparison.”

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/05/sheldon-whitehouse-beclowns-himself.php

[George Rebane]

Adiministrivia - For the proper home of your subsequent comments, I call your kind attention to -
https://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2020/05/ruminations-29may20.html

[Walt]

How do you shut up a TROLL? Prove him/her right.
Mary did a fine job of that.

[Bill Tozer]

She Said She Wasn’t A Victim But The School Suspended Her Boyfriend For Assault. A Court Ruled The Adjudication Was ‘Unfair.’

https://www.dailywire.com/news/she-said-she-wasnt-a-victim-but-the-school-suspended-her-boyfriend-for-assault-a-court-ruled-the-adjudication-was-unfair

[Walt]

Bill.
Now there is some Lefty justice for ya.

[Walt]

Let the hearings begin! Tweety has it's tail feathers in Sylvester's jaws.
https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/29/ted-cruz-twitter-iran-sanctions-criminal/
Republican Texas Sen. Ted Cruz said Friday that he is calling for a criminal investigation of Twitter over allegations that the social media company is violating Iran sanctions. In a letter addressed to the Justice and Treasury departments, Cruz questioned whether the official Twitter accounts of Iranian leaders were in violation of law.

Under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA), which allows the president to regulate international commerce, American companies are prohibited from providing goods or services to Iran’s leaders. President Donald Trump also signed an executive order in 2019 that sanctioned Iran’s highest-ranking officials."

Yet try and stick it to Trump?

[Paul Emery]

Walt writes

"It's OK to lock up fake news Emery."

Exactly what law do you cite Walt for your request?

[Don Bessee]

More bad news for the TDS set -

Professor who predicted Trump's 2016 win explains why he thinks Trump will win again

Norpoth’s “Primary Model” shows that President Trump has a 91 percent chance of being reelected and also shows he would get 362 electoral votes. The model is based on a statistical and historical theory that the professor outlines.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/professor-predicted-trump-win-prediction-biden-2020

;-)

[Scott O]

Mary Waaaah! - "...it is called "police state" tactics."
Correction -
'Democrat police state tactics'.

[Gregory]

Toes 950am
Thanks for this gem from the past:

Gregory writes:

"Do you realize how incendiary it would be for the 2018 elections if Strzok knew he was taking DNC opposition research bought from Russians to the FISA court in order to get permission to spy on their opposition? "

Massive speculation and "what if" Gregory

that's exactly what you criticize me for.

Posted by: Paul Emery | 07 December 2017 at 08:33 PM

The difference being that it wasn't speculation.

[Mary Wanna]

Wally, Scotty, youse two have no way of knowing if the cops are TrumpHoles or not.

All good people on both sides, right Trumpy?

[Paul Emery]

Anybody watch that pathetic Trump press conference? He sure is acting like a loser. He didn't even attempt to address the crisis our country is going through right now. Certainly not a fireside chat, not even close.

Quote from FDR

"So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is...fear itself — nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance."

[Mary Wanna]

“I’d vote for a tuna fish sandwich before I’d vote for Donald Trump again,” said Jack Spielman, who voted for Trump in 2016 but now calls him “toxic.”

You won't hear that from our local Trump Lemmings.

[Mary Wanna]

The cops arresting the CNN crew were likely brainwashed Trumpers imitating Dear Leader.

[Paul Emery]

It sure takes a Republican President to take this country into chaos. There have been 7 Republican Presidents Since and including Hoover. Here's how they ended their terms

Hoover-the Great Depression
Eisenhower-good stable country and economy
Nixon-Resigned in disgrace after Watergate
Reagan-Successful two terms although massive debt
Bush 1-Only lasted one term
Bush 2-Massive Debt, two ongoing wars and the Great Recession
Trump-massive economic collapse-worst unemployment since the depression'

So you see out of seven Presidencies the Repubs have only two Presidents you can remotely call successful, Eisenhower and Reagan.

So you can see the risk you take by voting a Republican for President.

[fish]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 29 May 2020 at 01:37 PM

......STRUGGLE.....SESSION.....!

TRUMP2020.......come for the judicial appointments....stay for the Schadenfreude!!

[Paul Emery]

Do you dispute my analysis Fish ?

[Todd Juvinall]

Trump had a great presser today. I see that Emery is siding with China now. What a traitor to America. Looks like the cop will be tried which will send a message to others that they cannot do that kind of thing.

[Bill Tozer]

About CNN reporter arrested. The reports I read last night said that two news crews (not one) were detained. The CNN reporter was white and detained. The other news crew (reporter) was black and let go on the spot. Probably had nothing to do with race, but with attitude.

[fish]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 29 May 2020 at 01:48 PM

Do you dispute my analysis Fish ?

I dispute your sanity......