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18 June 2020

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Mary Wanna

Religious Darwin Award contestants are doing their part,

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-06-17/church-linked-oregon-largest-coronavirus-outbreak

Mary Wanna

Yes, Mr Bolton, most of us knew Trump was unfit for office,

https://twitter.com/RepsForBiden/status/1273678045707108352?s=09

Mary Wanna

SCOTUS comes through on DACA qand shows Conservos their push to flood the courts with conservative judges is a fool's errand since judges are apolitical.

Meanwhile Trump screams the ruling is "a shotgun blast to Conservos"

and as always LOL

Scott O

Mary Waaaah! 12:08 - "...shows Conservos their push to flood the courts with conservative judges is a fool's errand since judges are apolitical."
Ah yes Mary, we conservatives remember quite well that's exactly what you and the left told us repeatedly just last year about Trump's court picks.

Paul Emery

The Neo Cons on this blog like Todd loved John Bolton and his support for the illegal invasion of Iraq , he was the all star now he's a dog. Hypocrite's all.

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery | 18 June 2020 at 12:19 PM

Sort of like your support for Che' eh Paul? But hey can you find a link to your claim about me? I can't seem to remember it.

Don Bessee

A bone for the pony tail of ignorance -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/18/nolte-john-bolton-serves-up-another-deep-state-nothingburger/

;-)

Paul emery

Did you support the war on Iraq Todd?

fish

Well that explains it........

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/JEMIMAHILLARY-600x381.jpg

Don Bessee

Looks like there are going to be big time fireworks on the 4th in NY -

https://www.foxnews.com/us/nypd-july-4th-strike-police

;-)

Mary Wanna

Californians told to wear face masks in most places because if the re-spike. Let's see if the CABPRO loons at B&C get the memo.

Mary Wanna

Another one steps off the Trump merry-go-round,

"Top State Department official resigns in protest of Trump’s response to racial tensions in the country"

Mary Wanna

So what else is new? Another top Trump donor is a racist,

"Timothy Mellon, top donor to Trump super PAC, used racial stereotypes to describe African Americans in his autobiography".

Scott O

Paul Emery 12:19 - "Hypocrite's all."
All who?
Talking to the mirror again?
What have 'all' of us said about Bolton?

Scott O

Mary Waaaah! "Timothy Mellon, top donor to Trump super PAC, used racial stereotypes to describe African Americans in his autobiography".
What stereotypes?
They tend to have darker skin than Norwegians?
Or maybe -
"even the most liberal, well-intentioned white” people, have a racist “virus” in their brain that can “activate” at any time."
That was Van Jones, Obama's little boy.
Leftists have no standing to talk to anyone about racism.

Todd Juvinall

Paul emery | 18 June 2020 at 01:26 PM

Did you support the war on cops in Minneappolis?

Paul Emery

Scott

I am assuming you were were a supporter of the war in Iraq of which Bolton was one of the main architects. Remember the ol' WMD lie used to seal the deal? Well that was John Bolton's main pitch. If you were not a supporter of the war I stand corrected but in extensive conversations about the topic through the years on this blog I don't recall you supporting me in opposing the precise for the war which was tne WMD lies. That was of course John Bolton's main reason for the war, Remember he was National Security Advisor under Bush.

Todd was the main supporter of the war on this blog and therefore he embraced Boltons lies.

https://zfacts.com/zfacts.com/p/581.html

So Scott to make it simple did you support the War in Iraq?

Direct quote from Bolton:

" It has rebuilt its civilian chemical infrastructure and renewed production of chemical warfare agents, probably including mustard, sarin, and VX. It actively maintains all key aspects of its offensive BW [biological weapons] program."

Scott O

Paul E - 3:53 "So Scott to make it simple..."
I doubt I could ever make it simple enough for you, Paul.
Not playing your childish games. If you wish to have a conversation, we can do that.
I have no idea of what Bolton has said about Trump in his book and I have no proof of any kind that Bolton ever lied about anything.
If you believe Bolton to be a liar, what proof do you have that he is telling the truth about Trump?

Paul Emery

None Scott until it's confirmed by others. Bolton did lie about WMD's in Iraq that led to justify our illegal invasion of a sovereign nation though that was embraced by most contributors to this blog including our host.

WMD's were never found and that was confirmed by
Rumsfeld of all people.

You seem content to remain ignorant Scott which can in your mind absolve you of any responsibility for having an opinion and contributing to the conversation.

Bill Tozer

Lol.

“ Talking to the mirror again?

Posted by: Scott O | 18 June 2020 at 03:04

Applies more aptly to 4:56 pm

Scott O

So - Bolton is a big fat liar, right Paul?
How does that me a hypocrite?
That was your original contention - which you never were able to prove and now you've quickly shifted to the bizarre claim (based on nothing) that I'm "content to remain ignorant".
If you have proof that Bolton intentionally lied, Paul - then provide that evidence.
Until then, it's just your opinion.
The fact that I might not share your opinion is proof of nothing as well.

Bill Tozer

MSNBC’s Hayes Calls ‘Duplicitous’ John Bolton the Leader of the GOP

“In Tuesday’s All In, MSNBC host Chris Hayes bizarrely insisted that the true leader of the Republican Party is John Bolton, not Donald Trump.

“Hayes described Bolton as “duplicitous, untrustworthy, extremely militaristic” in his Tuesday night rant on why the American people should trust what Bolton says in his new tell-all book. Hayes also called Bolton “morally odious.” But, the host encouraged, believe the book.”.....

“The MSNBC host’s spin is incoherent when you think about the differences between Trump and Bolton. Bolton was heavily involved in the Iraq War, which President Trump, and some of his voters, opposed. Bolton is a career bureaucrat, as Hayes highlighted, which is exactly what Trump is not.

The key question is why would the liberal media believe Bolton now? Chris Hayes and the rest of the mainstream media will rush to support him, even though they never have before, simply because it fits their narrative that Trump should be impeached and removed from office; a narrative that begun just minutes after Trump was sworn into office.”

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/michael-dellanno/2020/06/18/msnbcs-hayes-calls-duplicitous-john-bolton-leader-gop
———————
‘Nets Hype ‘Bolton Bombshells’: Trump Wanted China to Buy U.S. Soybeans’

“During a segment in the 8:00 a.m. ET hour, King turned to who she thought was the “perfect person” to ask about Bolton’s accusations – Democratic Congressman and Trump impeachment crusader Adam Schiff.

Ironically, when Bolton was first selected by Trump to be national security advisor in 2018, the networks feared that the “controversial” selection was just the latest addition to the president’s “very hardline” team of White House aides.”

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kyle-drennen/2020/06/18/nets-hype-bolton-bombshells-trump-wanted-china-buy-us-soybeans

Bombshell!

Bill Tozer

Darn. The face masks are back. Gee, I hardly knew ya went you left. Wonder where I put my dog hair covered mask? Under the front seat of the dog car, I reckon. The sewing circle is back and the gas stations have a stack of cheap, yet long neck covering bandanas ($3.99). Multiple use bandanas. “Lock her up, Lock her up!”, if you catch my drift. My inner radical never left. “5-6-7-8, Nixon ordered Watergate.” Face masks? Rebel without a cause, rebel without a job.

‘Californians now required to wear Face masks in most settings outside of home’

https://www.theunion.com/news/californians-now-required-to-wear-face-masks-in-most-settings-outside-of-home/

Paul Emery

Scott

If you believe that Iraq had WMD's so be it. I don't and I believe it was just an invented excuse to invade a sovereign nation. Check out this link on Rumsfelds admission there were no WMD's and get back to me. If you don't check it out we have nothing to talk about.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/02/20/rumsfeld.interview/index.html

Paul Emery

Don’t support a war on cops Todd. I do support reform on police procedures. Do you?

Don Bessee

OH NO virtue signaling and a PC virtue signaling challenge too @639! LOL

;-)

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery | 18 June 2020 at 06:39 PM

How about your love of Che'? Yopu never answered.

The cops are fine, no reform needed. There will always be a bad ending when they are attcked. You should go on record supporting them. Reforms are not needed.

Paul Emery

Trump down to 39% in fox poll

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/18/fox-news-poll-trump-biden-329153

Paul Emery

Well Todd we have a different opinion on the need for police reform.

Scott O

Paul 6:15 - "If you believe that Iraq had WMD's so be it."
When did I say that?
You're just going in circles, Paul. And BTW - that link led to an article that said nothing about poison gas.
You stated that I (being part of the 'all') was a hypocrite. When did I say that Bolton was a 'star' and when did I say he is now a 'dog'?
How am I a hypocrite and where is your evidence?
If you have none, then it looks like we're done here.

Bill Tozer

Let’s me how this all started. Punch got off to a late start with his opening salvo 7 1/2 hours ago. BDS is actually a nice break. Nixon-Obama, now back to the Iraq War...the illegal Iraq war!

Punch tees off with: “The Neo Cons on this blog like Todd loved John Bolton and his support for the illegal invasion of Iraq , he was the all star now he's a dog. Hypocrite's all.” 12:29 pm.

We will skip to the most telling moment of the drama, when this beauty was dropped @ 3:53 pm:

“I am assuming you were were a supporter of the war in Iraq of which Bolton was one of the main architects....”

Those three magic words. I am assuming. Rhymes with amusing.

Past 8 and still going. Once Punchy gets his gums wrapped around WMD, there ain’t no letting go.

FYI: Did you know all the shithole cities are run by Democrats.


Paul Emery

Scott

That is he general opinion of the RR commentators and you normally march in close step with the crowd. I'm glad to hear you hear you were not a supporter of the war in Irac and therefore not a follower of Bolton and the Neo-Cons. Thanks for the clarification.

Paul Emery

Todd

Show me an example of me having a "love of Che"or whatever that is. Till then you do you're making it up and lying.

Paul Emery

Scott

sp Iraq

Don Bessee

Isnt that special a BLM casualty that was toast withdraws from what? -

https://www.yahoo.com/news/klobuchar-withdraws-veepstakes-says-biden-022850008.html

;-)

scenes

" Once Punchy gets his gums wrapped around WMD, there ain’t no letting go."

It's what makes him a hot date.

Darn, I'd mostly forgotten about all of that. The Left was busy blaming the US for an Iraq armed with a French reactor, German chemical plants, Russian arms. The Right was seeing ghosts in piss-poor CIA reports. A good time was had by all.

In a realpolitik sense, it's a heckuva lot easier to bribe/threaten a dictator than it is to replace governments. Especially when you are trying to build America Jr. in an Arab country, a laughably fruitless quest as they are simply incapable of running a modern democracy.

No lesson was learned of course since Team Blue felt the need to blow up Libya and Syria just to get even with the Bushes. I suppose the truth is that the national security apparatus never changed and thus the policy never changed. In a Biden presidency (well, his VP's presidency) you can expect them drones to start flyin' again. NSAGoogleCIAFacebookKVMR would be ridin' high. In a Trump 2.0 presidency, well, they'll just keep burning down your cities.

It's a lose-lose situation, but then, you can't have anything.

Scott O

Paul - read Bill's 8:08.
Good Lord.

Bill Tozer

Don

Amy out. So much for once being the best of the lot for VP. Biden-Amy was once billed as the winning ticket. Harris? She once was #1. Dirty Cop. Laughs too long at her own jokes and appears drunk or looped on stage. Ran a horrible mismanaged campaign without a message.
Anyway, Tracy Abrams is still lobbing hard, but didn’t make the short list. Oh, the anticipation builds. Gotta wait for August. And the one he likes, the former police chief down in FLA, well, she is out cause of the all cops are now evil, per the broad brush from the Hard Left and the media. The mayor of Atlanta looks best on camera. Woke enough.

scenes

re: BillT@9:27PM Susan Rice. Bet on it.

Bill Tozer

Scenes @ 9::36 pm

Susan Rice? Well, they are looking a replacement for Uncle Ben Rice. Susan Rice’s Rice coming to a supermarket shelf near you. Did you see the memes today for th new Aunt Jemima? One I liked best were Aunt Tifa’s syrup. Had an black masked Antifa chick on it. I think it was a chick.

L

I'll still go with Condi Rice, se vouz ples!

Actually Saddam did have WMD and the coalition did find some, not a lot and nothing shocking (like Wuhan flu). Most of them had crossed the Western Desert in the days previous to the blitz. This was amply reported at the time (as convoys of semis) and no secret, though the US govt didn't push to get the fact out.

Punchito, where the F do you think Assad got the WMD that O used as an excuse to invite the Russians back into the ME after a 30 yr hiatus?

And since you're so forgetful, I'll also remind you that the Iraq war was authorized by the US Congress, including most of your favorite traitors. Something wrong there, too?

Mary Wanna

Trump's family is now doing an intervention on the Lying Cheater in Chief,

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/donald-trump-said-hes-getting-154904877.html

Scott O

BT 9:58 - Rice would be an excellent choice. She was the one sent out to the Sunday morning talk shows to continue the lie about Benghazi. She can tell any manner of lies with a straight face and acts whatever part she needs to perform in for the bureaucracy.
Her last hour CYA email to try and cover for the Flynn and Russia-gate fiasco is a great example of how she'd be the perfect team player for any sort of administration. She's black enough for the race hustlers and professional acting enough for congress.
I'd put her at top odds.

Bill Tozer

Scott @ 8:09 am

The other attractive attribute about Susan Rice is a couple of weeks ago or so she floated the idea that the Russians were behind this current division in the country to help Trump win re-election. Perfect Deep State player. The preferred choice of the Industrial Intellligence-Military Complex.

Oh course, nobody believed Susan Rice’s recent Russian conspiracy....except one lone person who happens to frequent here...as evidenced by Dr. Rebane’s Scattershots update:

“[12jun20 update] Russian collusion is alive and well in the belief and propaganda systems of the Left (witnessed by our leftwinger comments). To the rest of us it is astounding that the progressives’ hatred of Trump impels them to continue one their most vicious Big Lies, day after day telling the country that Trump did indeed collude with the Russians. But more importantly, that part and parcel of this collusion enabled the Russians to interfere in the 2016 so successfully that it was the impact of their efforts that sealed the ‘fraudulent election’ in Trump’s favor. This narrative continues unabated to this day.”

(“Witnessed by our leftwinger comments)”....”continues unabated to this day.”

Robert Cross

"How would you rate the implied value of these lives? to you? to society?" So after putting an implied value on human lives, under your plan, when do you start loading the less valueable humans into the boxcars?

Personally I think political bloggers and network commentators, politicians, and the spoiled child billionaires who use their daddy's money to try and reshape our country in their own image are the most useless creatures on the planet.

George Rebane

RobertC 841am - You really don't understand any of what goes on in these pages, do you? It is the Left that has always put a value on human lives, and then put them in boxcars for 'the common good'. I don't know of anyone on the Right who has ever put a wholesale value on human lives and then disposed of them for the common good. You genuflect to an ignorant and tainted ideology.

scenes

BillT re: Susan Rice "The preferred choice of the Industrial Intelligence-Military Complex."

It's probably easiest to just view it as a form of Restoration. The seats are still warm as the old lords and masters slide back into them. Of course, given the appearance of a quasi-governmental sort of surveillance economy provided by Silicon Valley monopolies, it might be permanent this time.

One big problem with the Trump movement is that it is too heavily based on him as a personality, like Cromwell I suppose. The Blue Mob has it's Year Zero to gather around, but no central personality (although oddly it appears to currently have a Jesus), while Team Red has a personality but a less emotionally exciting message of traditional America, Western Civilization, etc. Even if Trump 2.0 comes to pass, I haven't yet seen a successor.

It's worth considering how you can counter what is basically a Blue Mob militant religion. The younger you are, the easier to get swept into the mob, especially in an era of social media. Today's boycott and 'peaceful' march turns into tomorrow's arson followed by next week's Terror. I hate to think that the typical response to militant belief systems is a simple mirror image, but the examples of Weimar Germany or Yugoslavia don't give me much hope.

Robert Cross

I don't know of anyone on the Right who has ever put a wholesale value on human lives and then disposed of them for the common good. You genuflect to an ignorant and tainted ideology." the kettle calling the pot black. So how would you classify the Nazis.. right or left? Most historians firmly plant Hitler et. al. on the right, not to mention all of the South American despots the US has installed and supported over the years and the American trained (School of the Americas) death squads that have flourished. What is your "how would you rate" question if not an attempt to "put a wholesale value on human lives"? Is not police murdering black people or prison, with a statistical imbalance of people of color who are given more severe sentences than white people for the same crimes, not disposing of people for the common good of white supremacy? I totally understand what goes on on these pages but I seriously doubt that you do. You seem to be blind to your own hypocritical writings.

Mary Wanna

Just in time, Trump needs a brain transplant,

https://futurism.com/the-byte/scientists-mini-brains-neanderthal-dna?mc_eid=a58ca52ab9&mc_cid=3687206c38

scenes

GeorgeR: "You genuflect to an ignorant and tainted ideology."

lol. Man, I'll say.

Of course people have variable value, we see it all the time. How else would R.Cross see something like the act of abortion? The point of a state (ie. your fellow citizens have higher value than foreign nationals)? The cost of life insurance? The idea of scholarships for more promising students? How much should an airliner cost to design and build? Which drugs should be developed? The mathematics of triage?

Obvious points, but you really have to wonder what's going on in their pointy little heads. It's like there's this little demon, addicted to outrage, screaming in their skulls. Honestly, it can't be good for your long-term health.

George Rebane

scenes 936pm - A couple of months ago I proposed a betting scheme on VP candidates with the winnings going pro-rata to the winners' designated charities. No one bit.

Todd Juvinall

Robert Cross | 19 June 2020 at 09:15 AM
Hutus and Tutsi's were both black tribes and they committed genocide against each other to the tune of a million people. Please tell us which were rightwing?

George Rebane

RobertC 915am - Your continued attempts to engage in a real discussion are admirable, but still pathetic. But let's give it a try.

It is the historical Left, starting with the Bolshevik Revolution, that started calling Germany’s nationalist socialists the Right. Why? Because they competed for power all over west Europe with the international socialists, i.e. communists. The press at the time was already leaning toward the communists and fell into line, academe was next, and so the misunderstanding continues to this day that Hitler was the posterchild rightwinger. More nuanced historians have long disputed this jaundiced labeling. The bottom line is that the Left is an umbrella label that covers all collectivist ideologies – belief systems of governance which promote governments by the elites, governments that grow and control ever larger sectors of society in which the individual is diminished and consigned to membership in a class to be homogeneously disposed of and upon. As RR has pointed out for years, the correct understanding of the ‘Right’ label is one under which ideologies gather that celebrate the individual, free enterprise, open markets, capitalism to organize economies, and the reduction of governments to function only in the few spheres where people need to form minimal collectives – e.g. the military, maintenance of major infrastructure used in common, agencies for food and medical safety, … . The hallmark of a rightist is that he always seeks new ways to minimize the public sector (including corporatism), and maximize the private sector. I know that this is a lot for a leftist to digest, but give it a try. Remember, you don’t have to accept a rightist ideology, but only understand the distinction between Right and Left in order to productively participate in the discussion. More here –
https://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2013/02/ideologies-and-governance-a-structured-look.html

And none of this elevates the Republican Party as having cracked the code on perfecting rightwing governance. In fact, they are currently a very lame repository for the political allegiances of the Right, but a hell of a lot better than the Democrats, who are in a mad rush toward a fundamental transformation of America using the playbook from the Bolshevik Revolution. (Now why do I see images of water off a duck’s back?)

Scott O

George 9:49 - "A couple of months ago I proposed a betting scheme on VP candidates..."
A couple of months of national and world events right now scare me off of predicting anything to any degree of certainty.
Look at what happened to one of the former top VP possibles in the last few weeks.
'Hero to zero' Amy.
At this point, I wouldn't rule out Biden picking Stacey Abrams. Her greatest asset would be that she'd be the best insurance Biden would have against being edged out once he's elected. Wasn't that Biden's best quality as a VP pick?

scenes

" A couple of months ago I proposed a betting scheme on VP candidates with the winnings going pro-rata to the winners' designated charities. "

I think I'll find an online betting site and put in some Rice money. The designated charity will be 'me'. She's the right race to please the (D) base, we live in our new race-based world after all, but doesn't look black enough to scare off the independents. She's already said that she'll do it, plus she'll be backed by the Deep State and MSM.

There's no sure things in this world, but +550 seems pretty good on this one.

Bill Tozer

Daily Quotes

Insight: “All change is not growth, as all movement is not forward.” —Ellen Glasgow (1873-1945)

Observations: “Once a cultural revolution gets going, there can be no contextualization of the past, no allowance for human frailty, no consideration of weighing evil vs. good. Eventually, the architects of cultural upheavals always make two miscalculations. One, they presume that destroying things will never apply to themselves, given their loud virtue signaling. Two, if they are fingered by the mob, they assume they can somehow use their clout and influence to win exemption. In other words, once cultural revolutions turn anarchic and eat their own, they lose support. When quiet sympathizers conclude that they too may targeted, to survive they turn on their former icons.” —Victor Davis Hanson

The bottom line: “Gender identity is not tied to biological sex. Trans activists will say as much. To expand the term, Gorsuch emptied the term of any stable meaning. It is circuitous nonsense and a metaphysical bait and switch. He may not have intended this, but it’s what he did.” —Andrew T. Walker

The sad truth: “This week the Supreme Court did more damage to the rule of law and the Constitution than the rioters in the streets.” —Mark Levin

For the record: “Stop lecturing me. [Democrats] had eight years under President Obama to do the things in the Justice and Policing Act — and 90% of it you never brought up.” —Senator Lindsey Graham

Demo-gogues: “Eight years ago this week, we protected young people who were raised as part of our American family from deportation. Today, I’m happy for them, their families, and all of us. We may look different and come from everywhere, but what makes us American are our shared ideals and now to stand up for those ideals, we have to move forward and elect @JoeBiden and a Democratic Congress that does its job, protects DREAMers, and finally creates a system that’s truly worthy of this nation of immigrants once and for all.” —Barack Obama

Grand delusions: “The Supreme Court — who would’ve thought would have so many good decisions in one week?” —Chuck Schumer

Non compos mentis: “You ought to marry into a family of 5 or more sisters… You know why that’s the reason? One of them always loves ya.” —Joe Biden

And last… “For the last 60 years, American liberals have promised African Americans that their policies would make things better. They were wrong and their policies have failed miserably. That’s why the Left has to spread hatred and division. And that’s why they’re lying about this country and its history. They have nothing positive to offer today. Their only hope is to persuade Americans to give up and turn on each other.” —Laura Ingraham

Don Bessee

There are no organized violent riot groups says team lefty -

“As Mayor, I have received information from the Tulsa Police Department and other law enforcement agencies that shows that individuals from organized groups who have been involved in destructive or violent behavior in other states are planning to travel to the City of Tulsa for purposes of causing unrest in and around the rally,” the order states.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/18/tulsa-mayor-curfew-trump-rally/

;-)

Paul Emery

This request is being ignored by Trump who fom now on will be held responsible for any spread of Covid19 due to his campaign event.

“I wish we could postpone this to a time when the virus isn’t as large a concern as it is today,” Tulsa health director Bruce Dart told Tulsa World newspaper last week. “It’s an honor for Tulsa to have a sitting president want to come and visit our community, but not during a pandemic.”

The Trump campaign claims more than one million people have requested tickets for the event, although the president and his aids have a history of inflating rally attendance."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/19/oklahoma-officials-ask-trump-written-plan-keep-rally-safe-amid-coronavirus-pandemic

scenes

Hey Paul!! Check out what your peeps were up to this time!

https://media.breitbart.com/media/2020/06/george-washington-statue-portland-defaced-burning-american-flag-640x335.jpg

Oh, those frisky kids!

Bill Tozer

Oh Paul.

We already know that if there is one death resulting from the rally, all future deaths in the entire USA will be blamed on Trump anyway. It was the Leftist mantra all last week...while the mobs were setting fires and stealing everything and anything the thieves and criminals could get their human debris hands on. Blame Trump.

Don Bessee

Bad news for the TDS set and creepy grampa joe -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/19/zogby-poll-majority-voters-believe-joe-biden-early-stages-dementia/

;-)

Gregory

punchy 145pm

"This request is being ignored by Trump who fom now on will be held responsible for any spread of Covid19 due to his campaign event."

No, he won't. Silly punch.

Bill Tozer

Scenes @ 1:57 pm.

This feels like the final straw. Don’t know if I can take anymore...at the present. Deep breath.

“Portland wakes up to see what antifa did overnight. A century old statue of George Washington was toppled & set on fire with an American flag. “White fragility,” “Damn white men” & other messages are written on the moment. On the ground nearby: “Defund white men.””

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo

THEY’VE COME FOR WASHINGTON

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/06/theyve-come-for-washington.php


Bill Tozer

I will put this here. Screw our enlightened Lefties. Screw them, one and all. This is a direct result of the fear peddling left and what crap is coming out of our institutions of
higher learning outrage. Connect the dots.

‘Man Fired From ‘Dream Job’ Over ‘White Supremacist’ Gesture; He’s Mexican-American, Says He Was Just Cracking His Knuckles’

https://www.dailywire.com/news/man-fired-from-dream-job-over-white-supremacist-gesture-hes-mexican-american-says-he-was-just-cracking-his-knuckles

George Rebane

Gentlemen - there are other posted commentaries under which your thoughts on the riots and anti-American outrages belong. This ain't it.

Don Bessee

I am shocked, shocked I say! -

https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-york-city-sees-surge-in-murders-burglaries-nypd-says

;-)

Don Bessee

So much for picking off a senate seat. LOL -

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hot-mess-hickenlooper-stumbles-democratic-042239985.html

;-)

Paul Emery

Looks like wire fraud can be added to the multitude of crimes Trump and his campaign are accused of.

"A well-known former special counsel is accusing the Trump campaign of engaging in “wire fraud,” and another well-known attorney is backing up his claim.

Norm Eisen made the wire fraud allegation in response to a tweet from former Obama White House Director of Communications Jennifer Palmieri. Eisen is a former White House Special Counsel for Ethics and Government Reform, a former U.S. ambassador, and served as a counsel for Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee during the impeachment of President Donald Trump.

The tweet from the Trump campaign signed by Trump Jr

“My father asked me to text you. He reached out to 100 patriots to join the Trump 100 Club. You’re the ONLY 1 who didn’t join. Join NOW,” it reads, followed by a URL that links to a Republican fundraising site, WinRed.


@NormEisen response

This is 18 USC 1343 wire fraud by Trump campaign

No way the other 99 really replied, so all elements are met

1)scheme to defraud 2)with intent to defraud & 3) foreseeable & actual use of interstate wire comms.

Barr won't investigate, but states can under analogous state crimes https://twitter.com/jmpalmieri/status/1274072246223503360

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/trump-campaign-accused-of-wire-fraud-by-former-white-house-counsel/


Don Bessee

Oh say it aint so creepy grampa joe wait till the mob finds out -

Former Vice President Joe Biden did not sponsor or co-sponsor any of the six bills recognizing Juneteenth during his time in the U.S. Senate, though he is now attempting to champion the holiday.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/19/joe-biden-did-nFormer Vice President Joe Biden did not sponsor or co-sponsor any of the six bills recognizing Juneteenth during his time in the U.S. Senate, though he is now attempting to champion the holiday.ot-sponsor-co-sponsor-any-juneteenth-bills-in-senate/

;-)

Gregory

punchy 458pm

If you can't find a story that you like in rawstory covererd in a reputable publication, it ain't ready for primetime.

rawstory lies. Yeah, I know... it's usually a great story... if you don't look closely.

Paul Emery

Direct quotes Gregory from tweets. Are you saying that Real Story made them up? Is this fake?

“My father asked me to text you. He reached out to 100 patriots to join the Trump 100 Club. You’re the ONLY 1 who didn’t join. Join NOW,” it reads, followed by a URL that links to a Republican fundraising site, WinRed.

Is this fake?

@NormEisen response

This is 18 USC 1343 wire fraud by Trump campaign

No way the other 99 really replied, so all elements are met

1)scheme to defraud 2)with intent to defraud & 3) foreseeable & actual use of interstate wire comms.

Barr won't investigate, but states can under analogous state crimes https://twitter.com/jmpalmieri/status/1274072246223503360

Don Bessee

That some failed team 0 leftovers from the disasterous impeachment are grasping at straws is no surprise to anyone other than the pony tail of ignorance above!

;-)

Paul Emery

Gregory

Are you looking at Breitbart through the same lens you evaluate Raw Story? If so what do you find and how is it different than Raw Story? You have never once questioned it's bias or integrity even though it's used all the time as sources for blog posts on RR.

Paul Emery

This is the liability that Trump is assuming for his self serving rally in Tulsa.

Top infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci warned White House officials of the serious health risks posed by the massive Trump rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, this Saturday, NBC News reported on Friday.

Dr. Deborah Birx, the COVID-19 response coordinator of President Donald Trump’s coronavirus task force, also raised concerns about the rally, two sources familiar with the discussions told NBC.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/anthony-fauci-trump-tulsa-rally-risk_n_5eed377cc5b6d30db989a225

Don Bessee

Poor po' pitiful you @632 -

Breitbart primarily aggregates news from others and has opinion cols. too. When you have to resort to that you have acknowledged no ability to defend the substance of the losers hype -
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You tell em girl!

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/19/black-preacher-to-chaz-blm-protesters-planned-parenthood-1-killer-of-black-population/

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Walt

Emery! Check MAD Magazine for an anti Trump story.. (It's more credible that the alcoholic run Rawnerve.

Any of those cowboys in town given you a hard time?
We know how cowboys make you lose your bodily self control.
Those constructions workers working REAL close are Trump people.

Todd Juvinall

Our local fake newsman is now peddling others fake news. On twitter and Facebook there muyst be a thousand fake Trump sites. My guess is Emery is using them.

Don Bessee

It is still best to wait for the facts. God bless the family. -

Family says Malcolm Harsch, Black man found hanging from tree, died by apparent suicide

https://www.yahoo.com/news/family-says-malcolm-harsch-died-000120517.html

;-(

Bill Tozer

Good read. Scandal ridden DA fighting for his political life, turns on cops and against justice. Andrew McCarthy

‘Brooks Shooting: The Political Prosecutor Caves In to the Mob’

“In an outrageous trumping up of a criminal case — to describe this as mere “overcharging” would be woefully insufficient — Fulton County prosecutor Paul Howard Jr. has charged former police officer Garrett Rolfe with felony murder in connection with the shooting death of Rayshard Brooks.

The killing of Brooks, who was violently resisting arrest and attempting to flee, is still under investigation by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI). But in the wake of George Floyd’s recent killing by Minneapolis police officers, the Black Lives Matter demagogues refuse to wait for evidence-based conclusions. They will tolerate no storyline other than the slanderous fiction that we are all expected not just to abide but endorse: Institutionally racist cops are hunting down black men.

So prosecutor Howard, did not wait for the GBI to finish its probe. The mob was demanding a scalp, so he gave them a scalp.

Howard got his in-house investigator to sign off on arrest affidavits. They charge Rolfe with felony murder, in addition to several other charges. In Georgia, felony murder is a death-penalty offense. The homicide theory of felony murder is that, while the offender does not specifically intend to cause death, he does intentionally commit a felony from which death results. In this instance, Howard alleges that the underlying felony was aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

The allegation is ludicrous. That is why Howard rushed to get it done before any investigative findings could contradict him. He is in a fight for political survival: trailing in his reelection bid while facing sexual-harassment accusations by two women who worked in his office. There are also allegations that he violated campaign-finance laws. The state ethics commission is looking into those.

Under this corruption cloud, he has taken stock of our mob moment. His best shot, he apparently decided, is to run against law enforcement.“

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/06/brooks-shooting-the-political-prosecutor-caves-in-to-the-mob/


Gregory

punchy 632pm

1 I never browse Breitbart
2 when I've followed a link to Breitbart, I've never found them out and out lying to me
3 if it's a story I want to discuss elsewhere (like here) it's generally no hassle to find a link to a neutral source

4 rawstory lies

Paul Emery

Are you saying the links I provided from Raw Story are lies Gregory? Here is the actual text message reprinted word for word from Trump Jr speaking for his dad. Are you saying this is a lie?

“My father asked me to text you. He reached out to 100 patriots to join the Trump 100 Club. You’re the ONLY 1 who didn’t join. Join NOW,”

Follow this link for other examples of the same message. Let me know what you find.

https://twitter.com/jmpalmieri/status/1274072246223503360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1274072246223503360&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.inquisitr.com%2F6121566%2Ftrump-campaign-wire-fraud%2F

Gregory

punchy 1006pm

Yep... complete BS.

Paul Emery

My goodness Gregory,, you are delusional. I have direct copies of the text messages right in front of you and you deny they exist. Sad.

Paul Emery

For your reading pleasure:

Fox news poll shows strong opposition of large rallies such as the one Trump has planned for tomorrow.

"By a 36-point margin, voters say presidential candidates holding large political events and rallies say is a bad idea (23 percent good idea, 59 percent bad idea). Another 16 percent say it depends."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-voters-say-yes-to-face-masks-no-to-rallies

Paul Emery


For your reading pleasure:

Fox News poll shows huge disapproval for large political rallies such as the one Trump has planned for tomorrow night.

"By a 36-point margin, voters say presidential candidates holding large political events and rallies is a bad idea (23 percent good idea, 59 percent bad idea). Another 16 percent say it depends."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-voters-say-yes-to-face-masks-no-to-rallies

Gregory

Punchy 1028pm

It's BS, Paul. Meaningless. No one in their right mind would respond to a come on like that.

The Estonian Fox

Possible look at America after 'Defund the Police' - Chinese action against Indian troops in the Himalayas didn't go well, with many on each side killed by old-style weapons. And this was a polite stand-down, where both sides previously agreed not to use firearms.

On another note, Lockheed Martin Skunk Works announced a new line of weapons available for purchase. Try out their SPIKY-ROCK Models X and Xi, and the revamped HEAVI-ROCK (manual model, or hafted). Prices begin at US$3500 FOB. In standard dusty brown; LaserLyte FSL-4 additional; metric sizes only.

Ain't capitalism great.

Bill Tozer

@ 10:32 pm

By a 36-point margin, voters say presidential candidates holding large political events and rallies say is a bad idea (23 percent good idea, 59 percent bad idea). Another 16 percent say it depends."

36 point margin. That’s exactly the margin Trump took Oklahoma in 2016.

Mary Wanna

Bill: yes, except you have it backwards. lol

Mary Wanna

Anyone know what Foxy is talking about? I assume it is regarding new ways to kill humans...but not sure.

Mary Wanna

Trump enabler Barr tries to get rid of NY District atty. in an obvious attempt to silence bad news before the election. No conspiracy there.

Scott O

Mary Waaaah! 8:58 - "I assume it is regarding new ways to kill humans...but not sure."
Don't worry, Marry.
Planned Parenthood is still in the lead with their current methods.
Sometimes old-school is best, right?

Mary Wanna

Judge says obvious attempt to silence bad press in Bolton's book is a big fail.

Mary Wanna

Hardly an equivalency there ScottO but about right for a Trump lemming. Maybe you can talk it out with your brethren at church tomorrow in white supremacy land.

Bill Tozer

Scott @ 9:01 am

https://www.facebook.com/PatUnleashed/videos/842179682856397/

Bill Tozer

Whatever you say, whatever you say.

The Republican Party candidate, Donald Trump, carried Oklahoma with a victory margin of 36.39%. Gary Johnston got 5.7%, Nasty Hillary got 28.8%
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https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/a.82108390913/10157470740715914/?

Bill Tozer

Kayleigh McEnany Owns Jim Acosta (Again), Cites ‘Extraordinary’ NewsBusters Video

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2020/06/19/kayleigh-mcenany-owns-jim-acosta-again-cites-extraordinary

fish

Posted by: Mary Wanna | 20 June 2020 at 09:06 AM


Every time I see your avatar it gladdens me. Your out there showing Trump at his most determined! It's not silly or frivolous like your "Blowjob Face" avatar.

I don't say this often but well done!

scenes

Score 1 for Mary and Paul.

https://twitter.com/MarcACaputo/status/1274309450598363140

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