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24 June 2020


Todd Juvinall

In America, the value is the best lawyers fighting for you in Alabama. In a fascist and communist state, your life is not worth a plug nickel.


I'm afraid that your topics are never going to stick given the All Trump, All The Time mini-posts of Ms. Mary and the Propagandist of Broad St.

On political websites, it's what known as a 'thread slide'.

A potential solution. Invent a thread for 'Trump', move all the Trump-centric stuff there as it appears. A bit of trouble, but not a bad cleanup move. Turn if off when the election gets closer and it actually really matters.

Todd Juvinall

Hey kind of rich that the fatboy adler is holding hearings with disaffected democrat DOJ goons accusing Barr of politics when it was the previous goons like Holder and Comey and Struck. The world is upside down and the press just stenos the dem fools. America is really in need of a "Liar Liar" like medicine.

Bill Tozer


What planet does he come from? Unbelievable.

Alternate reality: “We have seen over the last couple of years is a White House enabled by Republicans in Congress and a media structure that supports them and has not just differed in terms of policy but has gone to the very foundations of who we are and who we should be.” —Barack Obama

And more quotes, saying the best for last, IMHO

For the record: “They sent 15 federal agents to investigate a rope in a garage, meanwhile violent mobs are burning buildings, tearing down statues, and assaulting people, and nothing is done about it.” —Matt Walsh

Food for thought: “Trends happen for a reason. If we have this many people in our country pushing race hoaxes, maybe it’s time we address how much we’ve incentivized being a ‘victim’ of racism?” —Jesse Kelly

Dezinformatsiya, Part I: “A rule of thumb: If you’re lying about nonexistent voter fraud, if you’re limiting polling places, if you’re forcing people to line up to vote in a pandemic, even the old and the infirm, then it seems you’re basically admitting most Americans don’t want you to be president.” —Dan Rather

Dezinformatsiya, Part II: “In 2016, Pres. Trump claimed voter fraud to explain his loss in the popular vote. It was a lie. Now, with horrible polling, he’s trying to delegitimize the vote — through suppression and more lies about voting by mail.” —Dan Rather

Non compos mentis: “Being killed by the police is now the sixth leading cause of death for young men in America, and young black men are 2.5 times more likely than white men to be killed by police, while black women are 1.4 times more likely than white women to be killed by police.” —Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer

The buck stops… “By the time a [nursing-home COVID patient] was transferred after nine or 10 days, they were no longer contagious and what all the data says is, the reason you had infections in nursing homes were [sic] because the staff brought in the infection.” —New York Governor Andrew Cuomo

Alpha jackass: “For something to happen, [Republicans are] going to have to face the reality of police brutality, the reality of the need for justice in policing, and the recognition that there are many, many good people in law enforcement — but not all — and that we have to address those concerns. So far they’re trying to get away with murder, actually — the murder of George Floyd.” —House Speaker Nancy Pelosi

And last… “When you elevate victimhood as virtue, you will have people tripping over themselves (and their garage door openers) to be oppressed.” —Allie Beth Stuckey

Don Bessee

Another reminder why the gain in the senate was so monumental in a historical perspective -



Bill Tozer

Todd @ 11:19 am

The Michael Flynn prosecution is over, assuming no en banc review of the panel’s decision putting an end to it. However, we can expect plenty of moaning from Democrats and their media allies, as well, I assume, as congressional hearings....

“Stone was sentenced by a liberal Democrat judge to 40 months in prison. But House Dems wanted a much longer sentence, and are crying foul because they didn’t it.

As I write this, Aaron Zelinsky, one of Stone’s prosecutors, is telling the House Judiciary Committee that the Department of Justice exerted significant pressure on the line prosecutors to reduce their recommended sentence for Stone. Zelinsky has said:

“What I heard – repeatedly – was that Roger Stone was being treated differently from any other defendant because of his relationship to the President. I was told that the Acting U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, Timothy Shea, was receiving heavy pressure from the highest levels of the Department of Justice to cut Stone a break, and that the U.S. Attorney’s sentencing instructions to us were based on political considerations.”

As Bill points out, it’s pretty clear from this statement that Zelinsky lacks first hand knowledge of what was going on. And, indeed, the Justice Department has confirmed his lack of knowledge. Its spokesperson issued this statement:.....”



Yup,, "O" and Biden were in on it.


Don Bessee

Law and order are still strong sentiments among actual voters especially in swing congressional districts -

The survey revealed a generic Republican candidate holds a one-point advantage over a generic Democrat candidate amongst swing voters in battleground districts.

The poll said Republicans’ strongest issue, the economy, is voters’ top concern. Twenty-three percent of voters say the economy and creating more jobs are the most important issues for Congress, compared to 20 percent that they would like to focus on corruption, and ten percent said tackling the coronavirus pandemic.

Eleven percent said health care is the most important issue for Congress.

Fifty-percent of swing voters also approve of President Donald Trump’s handling of the economy, compared to 42 percent who disapprove. The NRCC memo emphasized they have not seen a decrease in swing voters’ approval of Trump’s handling of the economy.

Battleground districts swing voters are far less likely to vote for Democrats after hearing about the Democrats’ radical proposals, the NRCC wrote.

Swing voters largely disapprove of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-CA) phase four coronavirus bill, the HEROES Act, which reportedly contains a provision that would allow for the release of prisoners, such as murders and rapists.



Paul Emery


The "poll" you cite was taken by the The National Republican Congressional Committee so what do you expect but a rosy picture. That info is in the link you provided. As of this time all consensus polls so Trump down by around 10% to Biden so your polling doesn't mean anything. Dream on Don. By the way how did Measure W do? Our readers would like to be reminded. That was supposed to win to according to you.

Don Bessee

Pretty droll for a troll@ 155. LOL



Posted by: Paul Emery | 24 June 2020 at 01:55 PM

Our readers would like to be reminded.

C'mon Punch.....tell us again how brilliant a writer you are.....that always slays me!

Paul Emery

fish writes:

".tell us again how brilliant a writer you are"

Thanks fish I appreciate the compliment.


Posted by: Paul Emery | 24 June 2020 at 02:36 PM

Hey....you said it....not me! I know your an idiot.

Bill Tozer

President Trump After Flynn Charges Dropped: ‘Is James Comey And His Band Of Dirty Cops Going To Apologize?’


Fat chance Comey and his band of dirty cops and dishonest Enemy of the People dirty news directors will ever apologize. Not in this lifetime.

Being an arrogant asshole means never having to say, “I’m sorry, I was wrong.” They can’t say that because they think they are never wrong. I suppose it’s the viewers/readers’s fault for believing them.

“Flynn is a liar! LIAR!!” He violated the Logan Act, yes the liar violated the Logan Act!!! Trump and his goons are criminals.
Cuomo Again Tries To Blame Federal Government For COVID Nursing Home Crisis. White House: Not So Fast.

Pelosi Refuses To Apologize For Saying Black Republican’s Bill Was ‘Getting Away With Murder’

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) refused Senate Republicans’ request for an apology about her comments suggesting a black Republican senator’s policing reform bill was “trying to get away with murder, actually — the murder of George Floyd.”

CORRUPTION (Bill sez: Biden goes after Flynn)
‘Explosive New FBI Notes Confirm Obama Directed Anti-Flynn Operation’

“Handwritten notes from fired former FBI agent Peter Strzok show that Obama himself directed key aspects of the campaign to target Flynn during a Jan. 5, 2017 meeting in the Oval Office.”....

“According to Strzok’s notes, Biden explicitly referenced the Logan Act, an 18th-century law that forbids certain political speech from private citizens. The law, even if it were constitutional, would not apply to a national security adviser for the newly elected president of the United States. Biden had previously denied that he knew anything about the investigation into Flynn.

“I know nothing about those moves to investigate Michael Flynn,” Biden said on ABC’s “Good Morning America” when George Stephanopoulos asked what he knew of the FBI’s operations in early 2017. He later admitted that statement was false.

The meeting to strategize against the Trump administration included just a few key law enforcement principals. Their testimony about what transpired is sometimes in conflict. Yates claimed Comey brought up the Logan Act while Comey claims Biden cited it. Rice claimed Obama directed that the anti-Trump operation be run “by the book,” but Comey claimed Obama even directed which personnel to use.

All parties agree, however, on the main substance of the meeting, which was a discussion of how to target Flynn for his “legit” phone calls and withhold vital national security information from the newly elected presidential administration”

Finally, it’s like pulling teeth to get them to say they were wrong.



LOL Emery,, when was the last time you formed more than 4 lines of your own thoughts?
It's always cut and paste from you, of other peoples screed.


Oh my......Rachel Dolezal is a piker compared to this one.....

White model Martina Big who identifies as black slams white people for ‘exploiting’ the black community


Todd Juvinall

Bill Tozer | 24 June 2020 at 12:02 PM

Stone got a break? How many heavily armed agents raided his home and rousted his wife as well? It cracks me up the deep state democrats are so transparently corrupt but of course their media lackeys just steno their lies.


"How dare you expose this man as the political hack that he is..."- Nadless Nadler
"“Mr. Elias’s political inclinations and job prospects obviously have absolutely no bearing on whether the serious allegations that he is making about the attorney general are true,” he said, appearing to read from a written statement."

They sure as hell do.


lol. I hadn't heard of this. Check out what the Blue Mob is up to now.



cuz, you know, Facebook is such a notoriously reich wing site.

roflmao. Perfect.


This is a sweet thing. Evidently Facebook doesn't do enough censorship, uses some rightish sources for fact checking, doesn't throw enough evil-people off it's site.


It's sad in that it's just another tactic in the attempt by the Blue Mob to utterly dominate society, but it'll be interesting to see how it pans out.

Don Bessee

Yes it is in fact 0gate -

Biden first responded, “I knew nothing about those moves to investigate Michael Flynn.”
When confronted by Stephanopoulos that he attended a now-famous January 2017 Oval Office meeting with then-President Obama and other top officials where they discussed Flynn, Biden claimed he understood the question to be whether he had anything to do with Flynn’s prosecution.

Then he said, “I was aware that they had asked for an investigation,” without specifying who “they” were.

“But that’s all I know about it. I don’t think anyone else — look, think about this,” he said, changing the subject to coronavirus. “This is all about diverting attention.”

However, newly-released handwritten notes from former FBI agent Peter Strzok show that not only was Biden aware of President Obama’s order to investigate Flynn, but he had suggested that Flynn had violated the 1799 Logan Act for speaking to then-Russian Ambassador to the U.S. Sergei Kislyak as incoming national security adviser.




Don.. That means Biden LIED.... We know how Emery feels about LIARS.....
Still shining Biden's shoes Emery?
Can you confirm that?

Scott O

DB 4:29 - That's the convenient part of Biden's senility. He obviously can't remember a damn thing - so he isn't really lying.
Hell - he probably didn't even understand what he was being asked.
He'll make an excellent Democrat POTUS.
Just hang out in the Oval Office and sniff the aide's hair and sign some stuff they shove in front of him.

Don Bessee

They are laughing at the self guilting uber-liberal white folks -

BET founder Robert Johnson, in an interview Wednesday with Fox News, blasted those who are toppling Confederate and other statues across the nation as "borderline anarchists" -- while challenging the notion that black Americans support this.

People tearing down statues "have the mistaken assumption that black people are sitting around cheering for them saying 'Oh, my God, look at these white people. They're doing something so important to us. They're taking down the statue of a Civil War general who fought for the South," Johnson said.

"You know, black people, in my opinion, black people laugh at white people who do this the same way we laugh at white people who say we got to take off the TV shows."




Found the problem with our LIBS.
Bottled water manufactured by Whole Foods and sold in most of its US stores and on Amazon contains potentially harmful levels of arsenic, according to new tests by Consumer Reports (CR).

Now worries Lefties,, it's still considered organic.

Don Bessee

These are the virtue signaling white folks they are laughing at -

Kristen Bell will no longer voice Molly, a mixed-race character on Apple TV+’s animated musical comedy series Central Park. Bell, who called playing Molly “act of complicity” that “shows a lack of awareness of my pervasive privilege,” will remain on the 20th Century Fox TV-produced show, playing a new character.

Netflix’s animated comedy Big Mouth made a similar change today, with Jenny Slate exiting the cast where she voices Missy, a biracial girl. The role will be recast with a Black actor.



Don Bessee

Come on my Antifa brothers and sisters support creepy grampa joe, with his KKK connections you would think they would tear him down mistaking him for a statue - LOL



Don Bessee

Its good for the world to hear the reality of who we are dealing with and as we knew are hard core radical collectivists who hate families. -

Black Lives Matter leader states if US 'doesn't give us what we want, then we will burn down this system'




Our Biden supporters have done and gone hid...
Guess those Biden lies that have come to light are pretty ugly.

Yup,, Biden claiming no knowledge in living color.
OBAMAGATE shows otherwise.

Will Biden step down? He's now a co-conspirator in the spying on Trump and the malicious prosecution of Flynn.
Biden came up with the Logan act idea in that meeting...

Don Bessee

Do Tell! -



Don Bessee

He meant it and the Nat Guard too. -

U.S. Marshals told to prepare to help protect monuments nationwide as Trump targets people who vandalize structures during protests



Paul Emery

AS a math guy you should be interested in this.

Here's an electoral map based on polls that shows Biden would win easily if the election were held today-281 to 114 with 143 called a tossup with 270 needed to win. It shows the Repubs have to turn around 156 votes to win in the electoral college which would be all the tossups plus 14 that are leaning towards Biden.



No,, not interested... How bout that LIAR Biden,,, Emery?

Mary Wanna

Good fun listening the Steven Colbert interview Bolton. O M G were Conservos suckered!


Mary Wanna

and there is more on Bolton!
Don't listen Wally and Donnie, you will have nightmares,


Bill Tozer

Dr. Rebane opened this episode of The Sandbox with: “In the intro to the last Sandbox, my invitation to readers to discuss the dollar-value of human life went over like a turd in a punchbowl.”

Ah, my good doc, you are thinking too small. This is more how it went over...
Polls, polls, polls. Looks like we are in deep do-do now, Kimosabe. I just want to die. Hmmmm. What’s this I see? “Houston, they have Biden problem, and it is getting worse.”


“The Democrats have also announced that Biden will participate in three presidential debates. Frankly, this surprises me. I question whether he can survive them. The problem with presidential debates, for the Democrats, is that reporters can shield their candidate only so far. At some point, he has to try to answer questions. Biden can’t do that.

“This is one of several reasons why I think current polls are meaningless.”


Scott O

Mary Waaaah!!! 9:00 - Looks like Mary needs to listen to the video. Bolton admits outright that Trump does nothing illegal or unethical for monetary gain.
And then Bolton outright admits he doesn't even know the whole story.
He mentions 'Ukraine' but has no evidence of Trump doing anything wrong.
Have fun smacking yourself in the face, Mary.
Bolton is looking for a big payday with some nothing-burger tittle-tattle. You lefty rubes suck the up the snake oil claims that any noisy anti-Trumper drums up.
Meanwhile Biden is watching cartoons in the basement to ready himself for the big debates!
Get the popcorn ready.

Scott O

Paul 8:39 - "Here's an electoral map based on polls that shows Biden would win easily if the election were held today..."
If Paul had any sort of memory it was 'proven' that Hilary had a lock on the electoral votes way before the election.
How did that turn out, Paul?
Pro tip to Paul - the election isn't until November.

Scott O

Don 7:26 - That was an interesting read. Did you notice the authors' repeated framing of the illegal acts with descriptions of the history of the persons whose statues were being torn down?
"Some attempts have grown heated; in New Mexico, a man was shot and wounded in a demonstration to tear down a monument to Spanish conquistador Juan de Oñate, a 16th-century despot who massacred indigenous people. The protest grew contentious after an armed militia group showed up at the scene."
A man was shot because he was violently attacking another man who was clearly trying to retreat and simply protect himself.
The sins of Onate apparently carry forward to excuse leftists to attempt murder on innocent people.
This is quite an amazing new concept in legal theory.
Something we have to look forward to in the new order under Biden.

Scott O

We just had an earthquake - one of several in the last few weeks - I went to a website to check the latest news concerning the severity of the tremor and right at the top of the web site: "Black Lives Matter".
Uh - don't worry you soy-boys - I'm pretty sure the lefty thugs don't even know you exist.
And if they do come for you please don't even for one second think that waving your little ass-kissing surrender web banner will save you.
My next purchase of a new product will come with an owner's manual and a warranty card with "Black Lives Matter" written at the top.

Bill Tozer

‘Bolton's Memoir Undercuts Hype as Impeachment's Would-Be Star Witness’


Bill Tozer

Check this out. James Brown’s former convicted armed felon road manager is talking like he is on the House Judicial Committee (Nadler’s) or...more like Adam Shiffilis’ House Select Intel Committee. Exactly like the race hustlers.

‘Al Sharpton Contends FBI Probe Into NASCAR ‘Noose’ Wrong, Wants Further Investigation’


So, the FBI send 15 agents to race over to Bubba’ Wallace to see his garage door pull down rope within hours of being notified, while our cities were being torched and looted and total disregard for the law and order was occurring at exactly same time.

What is it with these black dudes being targeted by Trump partisan white racists with nooses? First Jussie Smollett and now Bubba Wallace. Since the last few noose stories about rope swings in parks, nooses (a shoelace actually) lying on a co-ed dorm hallway carpet, and the latest noose found disguised as a door opener, I think that there is simply not enough Trump supporters walking around with nooses threatening to hang ‘em
high. Good think none of them ever rang the church bells on Sunday. They have a big noose hanging down drop the bell tower.

BTW, Epstein did not hang himself. He was hanged by two guys with white face on wearing a MAGA hats.

Scott O

BT - They clean forgot the 'twine' hanging from a tree at Sears Point. (it adds to the excitement)

Scott O

BT - love this quote - "“I do not think we’ve seen closure in this particular inquiry,” he added."

And I would add that we've not seen the so-called noose.

At all.

"...we’ve seen closure..."
translation - "where's my money?"

Scott O

I would further add -
where are our lefty warriors?
Ah -
hiding under their little trundle beds.
How cute.

Bill Tozer

Scott O.

I responded to you and continued our conversation over on ‘Reflections on Racism – no time to decide (updated)’.

We can solve the world’s problems in the morning, after a couple of cups of coffee. :)

Mary Wanna

Attention Trump lemmings, angry and bitter old bigots, racists mysogynists, and more. Get your account today!


Mary Wanna

More Trump lemmings make their voices heard,


Mary Wanna

"The federal government sent coronavirus stimulus payments to almost 1.1 million dead people totaling nearly $1.4 billion, Congress’ independent watchdog reported Thursday."

More evidence of Trump's incompetent administration.


re: Mary Wanna @ 6:46AM June 25, Year Zero.

'Parler'. Yeah, I'd heard of that one already. It's a nice idea, a Twitter alternative that doesn't boot people off for the most minor of infractions of Blue Mob orthodoxy.

Looking back, it never occurred to me that communications near-monopolies would be politically weaponized to the extent they have. It was a move well-played. Bravo.

"The federal government sent coronavirus stimulus payments to almost 1.1 million dead people totaling nearly $1.4 billion, Congress’ independent watchdog reported Thursday."

..simply shows the normal incompetence of bureaucracy, although perhaps perfect tracking of citizens shouldn't be a primary purpose of government. Remind me again of how accurate mail-in voting is going to be.

Scott O

Clueless Mary - "More evidence of Trump's incompetent administration."
You're swinging wildly, Mary - the feds have been that way for decades.
And these are the folks that you want to provide our health care, and send out the voting ballots.
Think about it.


Posted by: Scott O | 25 June 2020 at 07:58 AM

Think about it.

That’s directed at “Mary”? Funniest thing on the thread!

/hat tip


Mary Wanna @ 7:06...Have you also counted how many mail-in ballots have been sent to dead people?

Todd Juvinall

Researching the polls on RCP and did my best to see the underlying breakdowns of party affiliations. Hard to find. But when you do they all tend to weight ten points up for the left. No wonder the numbers are so skewed. Rassmussen uses likely voters and that seems to be more accurate.

Bill Tozer

Thanks for nothing, Trump. They want 50 dollars for a box of deck screws!

Well, there are things in life worse that the price of deck screws. We do have a choice.



“I’m Joe Biden and I approve this...this...er...you know, the thing.”

“If you follow the news as presented by the mainstream media, you might well infer that America has lost its mind, at least insofar as policing is concerned. As depicted by the media, the current debate is between those who want to abolish the police and those who merely want to hamstring it.

However, a new Rasmusssen poll indicates that, combined, these two positions — abolish and hamstring — have little public support. Americans are worried about too little policing, not too much. We haven’t lost our minds.”


How can the Leftists loose something they never had? A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Mary Wanna

1.1 dead people received checks. Let's see how many are cashed.

Mary Wanna

That's 1.1 Million dead people...

George Rebane

re Mary Wanna et al - Their ignorance about the operation of government bureaucracies manifests itself daily, here and elsewhere. Career government employees overwhelmingly are made up of and managed by liberals, progressives, Marxists, socialists, communists, ..., and leftists in general. These people have aggregated to such jobs because merit is not high on the job requirements list, as are e.g. class memberships, and governments are always the employers of last resort offering sinecures succored by public employees unions. To think that an incoming administration of a different political stripe can reach down into the bowels of the beast and make significant changes during their short tenure (where are you going to get that many incompetent libertarians and conservatives?) is beyond naive.

No, we're going to be stuck with those dummies forever, for it is the nature of government, and also the prime reason why I and mine want to minimize its role in our economy and lives.


Mary Wanna@ 11:13 June 25, Year Zero "That's 1.1 Million dead people..."




Don Bessee

Creepy grampa joe needs a digital stand in. I guess that's what they mean by a virtual convention -




Rasmussen today is 47% fer, 51% ag'in.

That's 1% above Obama's support at the same time of his first term.

Not great, but not horrible either.


And Mary Wanna, how many if the 1.1 million dead people received ballots. Have you researched that, MAry?

Don Bessee

A woke mob is bad enough but an ignorant woke mob is worse.



Paul Emery


Rasmussen is way out of sync with all other polls. Why do you believe them? The have wild mood swings. Just a week or so ago they were -12. Can you explain that?

I only take consensus polls seriously and they paint a pretty grim picture for Trump at this time.

RCP has Trump at -12.8 job approval even factoring in Rasmussen's -4. Fox has Trump at -11 for example which has Trump furious.

"The damning figures for Trump and his campaign are likely to draw a rebuke from the president, who has disparaged pollsters that publish unflattering findings. Trump has accused Fox News of publishing "phony" polls, and the Trump campaign demanded CNN apologize for some of its findings (CNN refused)."



Don Bessee

TDS ragin @145



punchy 145pm

C'mon, punch, you jump at any poll that gives you a number you can cream over, generally using the silly one number for the spread which gives you double the bad news... if you don't report the good news for the other guy. Which you don't.

Polls are polls. There's only one that counts.


Song o' the day.



Posted by: scenes | 25 June 2020 at 02:03 PM

You find the best stuff......

Paul Emery

I focus on consensus polls Gregory occasionally looking at individual polls. Why do you ignore them and only pay attention to Rasmussen? By the way what is the "good news" about Trump in the polls that you see today?


There is no "consensus" poll, Punch.



FACE, MEET PALM: The Dixie Chicks Drop the Geographical Reference, Retain the Sexist One.


Don Bessee

They let creepy grampa joe out of the basement again OY VEY!



Paul Emery

OK Gregory now about Average Polls if that sounds better to you. Let me re ask my question:

I focus on average polls Gregory occasionally looking at individual polls. Why do you ignore them and only pay attention to Rasmussen? By the way what is the "good news" about Trump in the polls that you see today?
Here's a couple of examples that look grim for Trump.

RCP Average-Trump vs Biden Biden by 10:

RCP Trump job approval average of polls-Trump -12.8

What about these numbers is good Gregory?

Todd Juvinall

Consensus polls? No you lazy "journalist" you must read the poll itself but you are so lame you never so. And if all the polls are skewed (which they are) to the left, then the consensus polls are untrustworthy. Rasmussen uses true factual data and does not use "push polls" to get the desired result. Gregory is spot on and the lamestream stenographer we all know as Paul is not.

Paul Emery

So Todd are you going or the "unskewed polls" bit again? You used those polls and predicted Romney would win over Obama and he lost by 126 electoral votes. What an idiot you are. You don't learn do you?

Paul Emery


Rasmussen was off by 5 in that election. Rhey picked Romney by 1 and Obama won by 5


Paul Emery

sp They picked Romney by 1


punchy... you do know the Rasmussen daily is job approval... not Trump v. Biden... don't you?

Todd Juvinall

Paul Emery is just lazy. He stenos for the loons and believes all they write. Very unreliable.

Don Bessee

So it begins -



Paul Emery

Yep Gregory That's why I sent both links to illustrate the hole Trump is in.


re: Gregory@3:29PM June 25, Year Zero.

lol. Why bother? It's like arguing with this little girl. You can see the genesis of Shining Path here.


Paul Emery

Sorry the grizzly details about Trumps chances of being re-elected are tough for you scenes. Can you present information that is encouraging to his prospects?

Bill Tozer

I liked the NYT’s site in November of 2016 with that tachometer graphic dial. Like driving an arcade car or motorcycle. Watch it move. Percentage odds of winning. As votes being tabulated but too early to announce (except maybe one small New England state that closed @ 8 EST), the cool speedometer graphic showed this:

Chances of winning

Clinton 92%. Trump 8. This being on Election Day.

From memory: ‘....while I appreciate your passion, Bill, Trump has a zero chance of winning. Zero, Nada. Big Goose Egg, ain’t going to happen.’ No possible way. No path for Trump to win.

That was 3 weeks before Election Day and I felt down for an hour.

Turn the page. When Punchy finally found a poll to comfort himself with and snatch victory out of total embarrassing utter defeat a year or two later, he causally mention that 538 was within the 3.5 margin of error, so Punchy got close.

Well, 0.000% chance of winning is not even in the same ballpark as “within the margin of error.” Zero chance, Bill. The Republicans better start rebuilding their pathetic party after their pathetic performance by picking Trump. Gag me with a spoon. Trump? Let me say it unequivocally again: There is no possible way Trump is going to win. Not even a chance. I once respected the formerly good Republican Party. Do not deny these polls????

Think 538 gave Trump the high mark of 19% chance and that set off a Liberal Firestorm denouncing that poll. I knew it was over a third, maybe 34%. If the doc tells you that you have a one in three chance of living through this operation, I take those odds any time. 1 in 3 odds ain’t bad. Not bad at all.

Chucky Schummer got demoted to ranking member status. Got a cocaine snorting-Moscow cuddling-’Grim Reaper to take Chuckie’s place.
BTW, the boyz sent Cocaine Mitch another two kilos of the good stuff....the kind the Jet Set, Hollywood Movie Stars and recording artists snort. Mitch will be all fired up, wired to max for weeks, and strut around with his pistoles a’blazing. While I personally do not condone cocaine use, it’s worth a try. We got a country to save

Actually, Trump picked himself and the R’s just sat by and watched the New Sheriff in Town strut down Main Street looking like Yosemite Sam with pistoles a’blazing. Reddish tint to his hair as well.

Paul Emery


You've played the Hillary loser card to death. this is now and these are polls taken in the last week. Trump is the second least popular sitting President since Roosevelt (second to Jimmy Carter) and you are giddy about his chances? Really...


"Sorry the grizzly details about Trumps chances of being re-elected are tough for you scenes. Can you present information that is encouraging to his prospects?"

You might as well try to predict the DOW 5 months ahead of time. You're like listening to one of those boring baseball statistic guys drone on and on. I haven't paid the slightest attention to this stuff other than noticing that it just looks like a noisy stock chart.

With all the stuff going on in the world, Paul the KVMR (all white people, all the time!) News Guy watches point changes in some poll. OCD singlemindedness? or Propagandist drawing attention from the world burning down. You decide.

If you really are an OCD chart watcher and can't help it, I do have to apologize for the snark.

Don Bessee

Well of course they did, 3 digress of separation from 0 -



Paul Emery

Also you don't seem to understand math Bill. 19% is slightly under 20% not a third. Where did you get those numbers?


Posted by: Paul Emery | 25 June 2020 at 04:16 PM

Sorry the grizzly details about Trumps chances of being re-elected are tough for you scenes.



Paul Emery

Yeah fish grizzly details-like after being attacked by a grizzly bear,


punch, punch, punch...

By Rasmussen... the hole Trump is in is 1% shallower than Obama was in the same day of his first term, at the beginning of Summer.


"grizzly details-like after being attacked by a grizzly bear"

the word you mean is 'grisly'. I admit that they sound the same.


Now it's time for Emery to clam up.
OK Emery,, just what does Basement Biden have to offer?
What makes him so electable? The rioting in the streets?
LIBSHITS running wild?
Tell us Emery..

Paul Emery

Here's a link to details about Trumps approval rating compared to all Presidents running for a 2nd term since Truman. Kennedy of course was an earlier date-day 1030-and Trumps approval number is adjusted to that date .

These are comparisons to previous presidents at this timeline-day 1244 in their Presidency except of course Kennedy. Trump is third from the bottom with only H.W,Bush and Jimmy Carter having less approval numbers and of course they both lost in their bid for re-election.

Trump-14.6 approval day 1244
all others day 1244 except Kennedy

Obama +.6
Bush +.8
Clinton +15
HW Bush -19.6
Reagan +21
Carter -22
Nixon +3
Johnson +8
Kennedy +28-day 1030
Eisenhower +54
Truman -5.9

Details at his link


Todd Juvinall

Trump will prevail and we can all toast the dumb opposition after the election results. Paul Emery will once again have four years to post his polls and screech about what a hole the President in in. Sorry for the libs, they are just as dumb as the skateboarders burning the cities.

Paul Emery


Why don't you contemplate why he's doing so well against Trump in polling averages. If you do you might have some helpful ideas for your guy. You choose to ignore the reality of the situation as we stand today,

Don Bessee

Its the electoral collage that matters not a generic national average, see ya in November!

It is all certainly is becoming clearer and clearer what team 0 was up to -




Posted by: scenes | 25 June 2020 at 05:11 PM

I admit that they sound the same.

Yes……poll boy didn't know though.

Bill Tozer

punchy. small punchy.

.Also you don't seem to understand math Bill. 19% is slightly under 20% not a third. Where did you get those numbers?”

Yep, I be a math dunce. I said the NYT gave Trump an 8% chance on Election Day afternoon, and three weeks prior 538 gave Trump a 19% chance ( or there abouts). 19 % is better than nothing, one in five chance...still not good. But I had my own polls. Bounced from 34 high to 24 low, stayed mostly around high twenties to low thirties, was inching up to 1in 4 chance (25%) to almost one in three (33.333%) and I had 34%. But something was going on Michigan.and Western Pennsylvania and another state that had no accurate in-state polling. Two weeks to go and the Blue Wall, the Firewall, the breakwater was showing signs of giving of of not holding up.

I had 34%, looked like 39% held for awhile, then Grab Her Putang, then dropped to a momentary low of 24%, or 1in 4 rounding off. I on 4 chance of surviving the operation when the only alternative is death by not going for it. But, one in three I greatly improved my chances. Math stuff. Probabilities. Chances are........actually, 34% was a given, 39 more likely, 45-46 % doable.
Oh, you have your sources, I have mine. The same sources who stated unequivocally that 17 Intel Agencies DID NOT sign off on the Intelligence Report. Or was it orginally “all nineteen?”

Let’s continue.

“Bill. You've played the Hillary loser card to death. this is now and these are polls taken in the last week.”

Oh contraire, I have not played the “Hillary Loser Card to death.” I am playing the Punchy Ponytail of Ignorance wrong prediction again card to death! If you weren’t such an arrogant (yet surprisingly so very petty) adversary who is wrong 93% percent of the time on BIG Overarching issues that matter the most, then I would not be rubbing your nose in the pile that you, and only you, left for others to clean up. “I was within the margin of error.”

Do I deny that your polls say dark numbers for Trump. No. I do not deny what they released. Do I deny that the Wa Compost said that 17 Intel Agencies signed off on the Intel Report concerning Putin and Trump? (Talk about an October surprise!) No, I do not deny that the published polls say this is what if looks like today. Did I deny the Lib Lying Rags said 17 or 19 Intell Agencies agreed? No, I do not deny they printed that in black and white. I just deny or reject the whole premise. In fact, I reject most of your premises, so what’s their to discuss?

What, Paul, you don’t want to talk about the road to the WH in 2016? Wanna talk about the Bush-Gore race? The Iraq War? How plastic bags are all the rage now and organic cloth grocery bags are out? Kicked to the curb?

Hmmm. Teddy Roosevelt was the most popular President in our nation’s history for a long time. 1910 or so until even after he formed his Bull Moose Party. He was named America’s most popular in history for many years, decades. Unless you meant FRD in the 40’s.

What does Teddy Roosevelt, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, and Abe Lincoln all have in common (besides their likenesses being beheaded, stained with crimson blood paint, and tossed in the pond to drown? Well, what they have in common is Mt Rushmore. Come and deface them, bitches. We got a little surprise of our own. Game on.

Nice folks you hang out with their, crack news director. Go interview the guy peddling ice cream on Broad Street or some person hang ging around the Miners Cultural Center.

Must be hard for you to make Nevada County an utopia where every tear is wiped away by a caring community.....all the while living in a Red District.

Just to be clear. I am not playing the Hillary loser card to death. I am playing the Punchy loser card to death...just to keep you from getting a swelled head and making outlandish statements connecting the dots and projecting some worse case scenario outcome. I got your back, Paul Emery. I have been trying my darnest to keep you from looking like an imbecile, but I have failed miserably. By task is to keep you from embarrassing yourself....like Biden’s handlers.

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