Biden’s Big Lies - 22aug20 edition

George Rebane

Bumblebrain read little that's new off his teleprompter last Thursday night.  The only policy statement he made was what he’d do to end the C19 epidemic in the US.  His Big Lie was the enumeration of everything that Trump has already done or has under way, save for a federal mandate to impose wearing of masks countrywide.  And the tragedy of the matter is that we have manufactured so many millions of double dummies with our public education system so that most of them out there in television land believe that Bumblebrain actually has some new initiatives that will work.  Now that’s another Big Lie.

Also, did you notice that Bumblebrain, along with his lamestream lackies, never once during the Dem convention brought up the California power blackouts that their Green New Deal policies will impose on the rest of the country once they’re elected and control Congress.  That is a Big Lie that must not be made public, not even telling the country in their news programs that California is suffering blackouts because the Dems’ green policies have eliminated the state’s ability to provide base load capacity when the demand is high, and the wind and sun no longer cooperate.

Biden’s biggest bamboozle is not telling the country what he stands for, and instead letting Kasich give one message while Bernie gives the one that’s 180 out.  RINO Kasich’s message attempted to tell everyone that ol’ Joe isn’t that far left after all, he’s just a moderate with good character traits.  While Comrade Bernie declared total victory on national television telling all that Bumblebrain has signed up for the Full Marxist Monty spelled out in the Green New Deal.  (And notice the complete silence on both the lamestream and during convention about the riots, lootings, burnings, murders, … going on across the country under Democrat leaders.  There’s a real whopper of a Big Lie.)

Finally, we see that Russia and the EU are betting that Biden will win in November.  They are doing nothing to support America in its correct policy to impose UN authorized ‘snap back’ sanctions that were originally contained in the JCPA (the infamous Obama nuclear deal).  The mullahs have violated almost every provision in the horribly drafted agreement that still gives the UN Security Council ample grounds to stop Iran from acquiring and reselling advanced weapon systems and military gear.  But money talks.  Angela and her cronies, along with Vladimir, have some serious bucks at stake here in their sales of guns and grenades to the ragheads.  Iran remains the biggest state sponsor of international terrorism, and our allies don’t give a crap (Vladimir’s position is understood).  This again says that Biden continues clueless on foreign policy, and President Trump is the only one with the courage to call the shots and sanctions on the international stage.

Now these are the real Big Lies told Americans by our country’s anti-American political party.  And no one, not even the local leftwing lackies, will dare address any of these issues for the simple reason that they have no leg to stand on.  On these issues crickets continue as the only working alternative during these election year debates.

Comments

[Bill Tozer]

Circling the barn....once again.

‘Joe Biden's lengthy history of fabrication, plagiarism and racial controversy’

“In 2019 during Biden’s Democratic primary run, the Washington Post reported that the former vice president told a fake war story on the campaign trail. Politifact rated the story he told as false. Biden has dismissed the criticism.

In March of this year, Biden claimed he was arrested in South Africa while trying to see the anti-apartheid leader Nelson Mandela. His campaign later said it didn’t happen after the U.S. ambassador who was with him on the trip said the arrest story wasn't true.”

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/biden-has-history-controversies-involving-plagiarism-fabricated-stories

Hmmm. I have known people like that. From Brian Williams to a former classmate that told everybody about his riches and new Corvette at the HS reunion. He lived in a low rent apartment and never sat in a Corvette. Biden was not shot at flying over Iraq. A snowstorm made the helicopter land at a safe area until the storm passed. John Kerry was on the flight and when the copter landed and Biden got out, John Kerry and the others starting laughing and asked, “What’s Joe going to do out there? Throw snowballs at the Taliban?” That’s just Joe. Always good for a laugh....at his expense.

But, the biggest lie Biden has told is what he has not said. Nobody knows what he stands for, not even Joe. What is expedient, I reckon. Yep, top in his class, roflmao.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/biden-has-history-controversies-involving-plagiarism-fabricated-stories

[Scott O]

George - "And no one, not even the local leftwing lackies, will dare address any of these issues for the simple reason that they have no leg to stand on."
When have we known any lefty here or otherwise to address an issue that reveals their ignorance and stupidity?
Here's the ultimate lefty -
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/legal-abortion-above-my-pay-grade-says-sr-simone-campbell-before-prayers-at-democratic-national-convention-27998
"Campbell, 74, is a member and past general director of the Sisters of Social Service, a Catholic religious community. She is the executive director of the Network Lobby for Catholic Social Justice, and received her law degree from the University of California-Davis School of Law in 1977."
"Asked Aug. 19 whether her organization opposes the legal protection of abortion, Campbell told CNA, “That is not our issue. That is not it. It is above my pay grade.”
“It’s not the issue that we work on. I’m a lawyer. I would have to study it more intensely than I have,” Campbell added."
And please don't ask her about forced child prostitution.
She needs more time to study it. She's ONLY 74. And she's a nun.
Roman Catholic, I think.
And she's a lawyer.
Fer god's sake, she needs more time!
Dodge and weave - dodge and weave.
It's the lefty dance.
Look folks - it's not about what side you're on - it's forming a comprehensive argument to support your view. If you can't do that...
Then you don't actually have any view at all.
You're just regurgitating talking points from whomever.
Hitler, Stalin, Mao, et al loved folks like you.
If you can't stand and deliver a cogent argument for or against on a topic then please just shut up and please don't vote.
Our Republic depends on an informed and educated public.

[Scott O]

Bill 8:42 - Was that the time they had to carry Hillary from the plane under heavy gun fire?

[Don Bessee]

Transparency is a must another Biden rally. just read the platform -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/22/watch-chicago-blm-activists-stomp-on-pig-cop-pinatas-scream-at-residents-twerk-in-protest/

;-)

[Bill Tozer]

Scott @ 9:08 pm.

No, that was the time Hillary was under heavy sniper fire and had to race (run) across the tarmac with head down to the safety of awaiting get-away vehicles

Unfornately for Hillary, the video shows her all smiles slowly greeting and adorning the line of vwry young schoolgirls presenting her beautiful flowers with a local band playing upon her arrival...on the same tarmac greeting her as she departed the plane.

The worse thing about that story is she retold her experience as "Chelsea and I" were under heavy sniper fire and had to rin qcross the tarmac....". She brought her own kid, her only child, into the lie. Just like Biden. :)

No, Joe's whopper was that he had been under fire in the skies above Iraq or Afganistan and has seen hell fire and has been in heat of battle...so he knows what it is like for our soldiers. 'I have been in it, man'...proof certain that he knows what he is talking about. Top in his class.

[Scott O]

So - that was the time she was shown walking calmly from the plane with appropriate dignitaries standing around and yet there was sniper fire?
Pretty cool - don't ya think? What a gal!
Paul believes all this shit so let's be careful not to rile his sensibility.
It's bad enough for him living with the Tangerine Terror in his brain.

[scenes]

Biden just strikes me as something of a simpleton, in office since elections in 1972, with the typical grifting mentality of his class. He'll do whatever it takes to get and keep the job.

The main problem is that his current backers are genuinely dangerous for once. This isn't like a political movement in the 1980's.

[Scott O]

scenes 7:22 - "The main problem is that his current backers are genuinely dangerous for once."
Hell - a huge portion of the American public has become dangerous.
Simpletons like Paul ignore the monster of the current Chinese govt with Emperor Xi and fret about Trump being the big worry.
We have generations of the young coming up who have no concept of our system of governance and why it's important to maintain it.
Freedom and liberty are replaced with free-stuff and licentiousness.
Equal opportunity is replaced with equal outcomes.
Biden or Trump - doesn't matter in the long run.

[George Rebane]

ScottO 930am - "Biden or Trump - doesn't matter in the long run." Would like to hear more about your reasons for being so sanguine about this election's outcome. The election (twice) of Obama and then of Team Pelosi confirmed for many of us that the tipping point in America's governance is in our rearview mirror. You're a reasonable man Scott, so please expand on your sentiment.

[paul emery]

George

How about Trumps lie that he was going to release his health care plan in two weeks that was made on July 19. You are silent about that and so many other Trump lies.

"President Donald Trump said he plans to approve a healthcare plan "within two weeks," in an interview that aired July 19 on "Fox News Sunday."

The president didn't provide details on what would be included in the healthcare plan, but he said major healthcare and immigration initiatives would be put in place in coming weeks.

"We're signing a healthcare plan within two weeks, a full and complete healthcare plan," President Trump said. "We're going to sign an immigration plan, a healthcare plan, and various other plans. Nobody will have done what I'm doing in the next four weeks."

The president said he believes the Supreme Court ruling in June that rejected his administration's efforts to dismantle the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program gave him new powers.

"The decision by the Supreme Court on DACA allows me to do things on immigration, on health care, on other things that we've never done before," President Trump said. "You're going to find it to be a very exciting two weeks."

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/hospital-management-administration/trump-says-he-ll-sign-healthcare-plan-in-coming-weeks.html

[scenes]

A good pic of Paul's Army dragging around a guillotine, the type of device that's always hungry.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/portland-blm-revolutionaries-bring-guillotine-suburbs-where-they-burn-american-flags

Hey, in terms of socialism, at least this time the results will be different. I guess.

There's a certain clarity when arguments about general .gov policy and/or largely fictitious charges against Trump as arguing points have mostly disappeared.

At this point, it's all about your family's safety. The Democrats are slouching towards Bethlehem as we speak.

[Scott O]

George 9:46 - The key term here is the long run. Certainly Biden's election will hasten the demise of our nation - no doubt. After just 4 years of what he is promising, the rot will truly be settling in. Looking 15 years out (possibly less-I'm still amazed how fast the disease spreads) the demographics are against a traditional Constitutional fed govt. And a lot of the larger (pop) states are welcoming with open arms the freebie-loving new arrivals - mostly illegal, but hey - what are laws?
It would be nice to say that there are enough folks left in 4 years (no matter who wins the next election) to see the error of socialistic governance, but folks all over the world can't seem to learn that it works great until you run out of other people's money. And those same folk are coming here to join the upcoming crop of no-nothings to free the working people from their chains and overthrow the evil white male system.
Oh joy.

[George Rebane]

PaulE 1003am - How about your addressing some of the awesomely bigger Big Lies from Camp Collectivism (which includes the lamestream media) that you have ducked for years. Any delay in Trump's healthcare plan announcement is chickenshit compared to what Obama, Team Pelosi, and now Biden are putting out daily. We already have an extremely functional healthcare system as attested to by the thousands who annually come here (legally and illegally) for treatment. Your comparisons are cynically skewed.

[scenes]

"Any delay in Trump's healthcare plan announcement ..."

My guess is that he (Trump) simply planned to get some experts together and then help lash together some sort of gubmint program (or lack thereof). Given the number of iron rice bowls out there, it isn't like something new is pull-offable. The Obama program is largely just a book of regs for insurance companies that were only sold via huge government subsidies. The continuous coup attempts have made it hard to form policy initiatives of any kind...maybe it's just as well given the nature of government to harm anything it touches.

My guess is that Paul's idea of healthcare goes as follows: The system he doesn't understand is broken and should be replaced by a system he doesn't understand (Denmark probably) which is different than a dozen other systems he doesn't understand (other countries). It's paid for in a way he doesn't understand and provides a set of services he doesn't understand. In short, it provides free healthcare for bar musicians until they go on heavily subsidized Social Security. It's all justified by waving Tyrannosaur arms about them overpaid insurance executives whose income is basically the pocket change under the couch cushions.

Hell, you'd think Paul would vote Trump just in order to assure government gridlock being a libertarian and all. He's made that argument in the past.

[Don Bessee]

Problems for the socialist dems -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/23/ice-cube-blasts-dnc-after-convention-whats-in-it-for-the-black-community/

;-)

[paul emery]

So George let me make sure I heard you correctly. You say that Trumps claim to roll out healthcare in two weeks (which he has claimed several times) as I documented is "chickenshit" compared to Bidens lies?

It is not chickenshit to the millions who have no healthcare or to those on Obamacare that may lose what they have anytime if the Supreme Court rules in Trumps favor to toss what we have. There is currently no plan in place to replace it so those people would lose their care. Really, do you consider that a trivial lie if indeed it gave those folks some assurance that they would have replacement care in place as he promised? Also why would Trump say something like that knowing that it is not true.

[Gregory]

Punchy is confusing "care" with "paying for care". As usual.

[Gregory]

scenes 1136am

You've confused and conflated Social Security and Mediscare.

[Don Bessee]

Here is one for the pony tail of ignorance -

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-to-reveal-coronavirus-breakthrough-therapeutic-wh-press-secretary-says

;-)

[roberto cross]

According to Trump's own sister, Maryann, he “has no principles” and “you can’t trust him.” She joins the ever growing list of people who can see through his constant stream of bullshit and lies. Too bad you folks wear blinders and then talk trash provided by such luminaries as Breitbart (Bannon), Hannity and the other goons at Faux news, etc etc.. #SAD for our country. Personally I would trade nordic style social programs to the corporate fascism trump and the publicans are dishing out, goons in Nevada City included.

[fish]

Posted by: Wine Aunt | 23 August 2020 at 01:41 PM

Personally I would trade nordic style social programs to the corporate fascism trump and the publicans are dishing out, goons in Nevada City included.

Well of course you would Bertie.......

Maybe emigration is for you. I’m sure the Danes or Swedes would love to have a constantly carping menopausal American as a new citizen!

[Don Bessee]

Then there is this -

Joe Biden, as the nominee of the traditionally-dovish political party, seems to have an automatic claim to the mantle of “peacemaker.” But the reality is that Biden’s decades-long career in government has left him with a foreign policy record that has been questionable from the beginning. In 1975, as a young senator from Delaware during the end stages of the Vietnam War, he spoke out against the rescue and resettlement of South Vietnamese civilians facing communist persecution.

Decades later, not only did Biden support the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, his suggested solution to keep the peace in Iraq showed only marginally more concern for the people living there than he had expressed for the South Vietnamese. Biden proposed dividing Iraq into three semi-autonomous ethnic and religious enclaves, which would only have further cemented the divisions that fomented the sectarian strife plaguing that country.

Robert Gates, who served as secretary of Defense under President George W. Bush and later with Biden in the Obama administration, had a long body of work from which to draw when he famously wrote in his 2014 memoir Duty that Biden had “been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades.”

Last year, as the prospect of a Biden nomination inched closer, Gates said “I stand by that statement” when asked about it by Margaret Brennan of CBS.

Americans will no doubt have a great many issues to consider when they make their choice between Trump and Biden in November. But we should remember to follow Nixon’s advice to “look to the future.” In doing so, we must separate the signal from the noise and look for the candidate who truly has done more to advance the cause of peace.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-peacemaker-nixon-reelection-blueprint-christopher-nixon-cox

;-)

[paul emery]

Yeah Roberto

Trump not only has no friends but he has no family either. His own sister considers him a phony

"In another recording, Barry spoke about her brother's strict immigration policies. "It's the phoniness of it all. It's the phoniness and this cruelty. Donald is cruel," she said.

Barry also claimed in the recordings that Trump did not take his college entrance exams on his own — which Mary similarly claimed in her memoir Too Much and Never Enough. (The White House has denied the claim and called Mary's account "absurd.")

"He got into University of Pennsylvania because he had somebody take the exams,” Barry said. "SATs or whatever.

All he wants to do is appeal to his base,” Barry, a former federal judge, said in one recording. “He has no principles. None. None. And his base, I mean my God, if you were a religious person, you want to help people. Not do this.”

“His g------- tweet and lying, oh my God,” she added.

https://people.com/politics/donald-trump-sister-criticizes-president-secret-recordings/

[George Rebane]

PaulE 1240pm - I have $100 that says there will be no healthcare hiatus between any existing program lapsing and Trump's new healthcare initiatives taking effect. And I notice you didn't answer my questions again about people coming here for healthcare, which is the main reason that your citings of Trump's healthcare timings are just chickenshit for EVERYONE. You can't argue the 'gonnas' - 'if this doesn't happen then this is gonna happen ...' etc, ad nauseum.

Hope against hope Paul, one day you are going to develop substantive support for one of your positions, and then you'll invite some real back and forth. But I'm not holding my breath.

[Gregory]

"Hope against hope Paul, one day you are going to develop substantive support for one of your positions, and then you'll invite some real back and forth."

He just doesn't have the knack... he doesn't discuss, he just throws punches. Shallow and one-dimensional.

[roberto Cross]

So what do yo9u patriotic Americans think of the Senate Intelligence Committee Report that states:
1) Russia conducted "an aggressive multifaceted effort" to sway the election toward trump.
2) Manafort worked and strategized "in detail" with a Russian operative and provided posing date to them so they could target their propaganda more efficiently
3) The campaign used Stone to lobby Wikileaks for advance information on leaks
4). Trump told aides to stay in touch with Stone about future leaks. (trump knew about the scheme the whole time)
5). A second dossier contained testimony from Ritz-Carllton employees documenting a video of trump with hookers an an elevator

[paul emery]

George

Can you outline what healthcare initiatives are you referring to? As of now there are none because Trump hasn't created any. Can you provide a few details about what the nature of the "initiatives" he will present?

[fish]

Posted by: Wine Aunt| 23 August 2020 at 02:49 PM

I think it’s probably every bit as biased and sloppy as the original Steele Dossier.

[paul emery]

Can you outline Trumps healthcare initiatives Gregory that will take effect if Obamacare is tossed?

[paul emery]

Gregory

This is Trumps direct quote ""We're signing a healthcare plan within two weeks, a full and complete healthcare plan," (July 19) President Trump said. "We're going to sign an immigration plan, a healthcare plan, and various other plans. Nobody will have done what I'm doing in the next four weeks."

How is it that you don't consider that a lie? He has made that samepromise at least three times in the past.

[Gregory]

Punchy 259pm

Was that one punch or two?

[fish]

Posted by: paul emery | 23 August 2020 at 03:06 PM

He lied Punch.....and in about 4 months you will gleefully vote for one of the biggest liars in the senate. Lying will not be an issue for you then will it?

[paul emery]

Thanks for agreeing with me about Trump fish. I assume you are referring to Kamala Harris as one of the biggest liars in the Senate. Can you describe a couple of what you consider to be her biggest lies?

[fish]

Posted by: paul emery | 23 August 2020 at 03:32 PM

Thanks for agreeing with me about Trump fish.

Delightfully pathetic as always Punch. As I said....lying by your preferred candidates won’t trouble you at all in November.

[scenes]

Gregory: "He just doesn't have the knack... he doesn't discuss, he just throws punches. Shallow and one-dimensional. "

That's it in a nutshell.

He's simply a propagandist. 'By any means necessary'.

[scenes]

He (Tim Pool) makes an interesting point in here (warning: youtube talking head alert).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r08N1Dy6s7w

...in comparing the current situation in the US not so much to the French or Russian revolution, but to the situation in Egypt.

Prediction through analogy is the best I can ever come up with, so I'll spend a bit of time grinding through that situation I think.

[Don Bessee]

Maybe he forgot he was told otherwise a year ago -

In reality, Trump said the neo-Nazis should be “condemned totally,” a fact that was brought directly to Biden’s attention more than a year ago.

Biden persists in making the false claim, and the U.S. media did not fact-check it Thursday. But the BBC did (original emphasis):

Claim 3: President Trump said there were “very fine people on both sides”, when asked about a far-right rally in 2017.

Mr Biden said one of his goals would be to “wipe out the stain of racism” and he recalled the far-right protests in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017 which led to violent clashes and left one counter-protester dead.

He said: “Remember what the President said when asked, he said there were, quote, very fine people on both sides”.

Mr Biden said that after this moment “I knew I had to run” for president.

According to a transcript of a press conference on 15 August, President Trump did say – when asked about the presence of neo-Nazis at the rally – “you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.”

During the same press conference, Mr Trump went on to say “I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally.”

Most major media outlets — including Fox News — failed to point out that Biden was lying Thursday.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/23/bbc-fact-checks-joe-biden-for-charlottesville-very-fine-people-hoax/

;-)

[paul emery]

fish

How about a few Kamala lies you claim are so profound. Should be easy or you since you seem to be an expert.

[Gregory]

Regarding Kamala Harris, one can't do better than the piece written by the McAteers and published in The Union:

"Senator Harris vocally throws around “F-bombs” and other profanity constantly in her berating of staff and others. The staff is in complete fear of her and she uses her profanity throughout the day.

As Attorney General, Senator Harris instructed her entire staff to stand every morning as she entered the office and say, “Good Morning General.”

Never once during the month-long internship did Harris introduce herself to our son (as he was only in an office with 20 paid employees) and staff was too intimidated by her to introduce him. The only acknowledgment was a form letter of “thanks” signed by Harris given to him on his last day of service.

Gregory was also given instructions to never address Harris nor look her in the eye as that privilege was only allowed to senior staff members.

I don’t know about you but this is not the workplace of someone who respects her staff. For a woman of color to have employees stand when she enters the room smacks of a bygone era that we, as Americans, deplore and find demeaning. Furthermore, that she didn’t show the quality of leadership skills or even being a decent boss — much less the “class” to approach Gregory at least once during the month to say “Hi, I’m Kamala Harris and I want to thank you for volunteering in my office” — is really troubling. Finally, what is up with the “don’t look her in the eye” instruction? I know I wouldn’t want to work in that hostile environment!"

https://www.theunion.com/opinion/columns/terry-mcateer-another-side-to-kamala-harris/

I can't imagine that being near the Oval Office.

[fish]

Posted by: paul emery | 23 August 2020 at 05:34 PM

I don’t claim to be an expert Punch. But we’ve been over this.....I don’t do homework for useless whiny hippies!

It’s all out there for both ends of your presidential ticket.....do some work for once.

[George Rebane]

PaulE 256pm - No Paul, I don't know his initiatives nor do I have to know them. You got your $100 ready?

And you still are having a one-sided conversation - no answers to my questions. How about I wait for your answers before I respond to the next one of your endless questions, OK?

[scenes]

Paul 'Newsman' Emery: "How about a few Kamala lies you claim are so profound."

Ah well, another one line post. Jab jab.

Easy enough to find, just look for DA promises.
https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/New-D-A-promises-to-be-smart-on-crime-Harris-2831205.php

""By being smart on crime, we can, we will, create a district attorney's office that is compassionate and effective, that is progressive and professional, that is committed to justice for every San Franciscan," Harris told the crowd."

"Harris has pledged to continue Hallinan's practice of supporting patients receiving medical marijuana...."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/opinion/kamala-harris-criminal-justice.html
"Kamala Harris Was Not a ‘Progressive Prosecutor’
The senator was often on the wrong side of history when she served as California’s attorney general."

https://www.politico.com/story/2010/12/kamala-harris-democrats-anti-palin-046783
"Harris’s Republican foe, Los Angeles District Attorney Steve Cooley, sought to cast her as a “radical,” but she tacked right on some aspects of criminal justice policy. She opposed a referendum legalizing medical marijuana "

[George Rebane]

roberto 249pm - Sounds about right. So what kind of conclusions do you draw from all this? Were Mueller and the multitude of Dem investigators just terminal fuck-ups? They didn't dig out any of this but just made allegations that didn't even have sufficient substance behind them to be included in their impeachment indictment. How do you feel about that?

BTW, I sure as hell would have told my staff to keep an eye on Wikileaks for any dirt on Hillary, wouldn't you? After all, the broad did buy a fabricated dossier on Trump.

[Gregory]

scenes 351pm

"He's simply a propagandist. 'By any means necessary'"

A propagandist is promoting a point of view. Punch is just out to hurt people.

[roberto Cross]

" didn't even have sufficient substance behind them'. you are absolutely right George, especially without any witnesses in a sham trial with a predetermined outcome. Don't forget this was the Republican controlled Senate investigation that came up with these findings that made it very clear that the FBI had EVERY RIGHT TO INVESTIGATE foreign intervention in our election at the behest of candidate trump.

"I sure as hell would have told my staff to keep an eye on Wikileaks for any dirt on Hillary," Really, even if you knew any information you got came from Russian spies who were purposely trying to throw our election toward their goon trump? Trump campaign operatives were doing more than just keeping an eye on Wikileaks. As the investigation shows, Stone was the go between.. and, of course, he got rewarded for keeping his mouth shut. They knew where the information initially came from and went with it because they had no moral compass except to win and cash in.

Trump won Michigan by two votes per precinct. You don't think that the Russian propaganda campaign didn't turn at least 2 votes per precinct? Based on the comments of your regulars, I would say that more than two people per precinct drank the Kool-aide. The Russians interfered with our election, plain and simple, and here you are trying to somehow make that OK in your own mind. Good luck with that.
Have an other deep gulp of Orange-trump, George. it will ease your mind if not your conscience.

[scenes]

"A propagandist is promoting a point of view. Punch is just out to hurt people."

Oh well, maybe so. A 70 year old 15 year old boy. It's as if he just discovered the internet.

[Scott O]

robert-O-X "You don't think that the Russian propaganda campaign didn't turn at least 2 votes per precinct?"
Hilarious!
What 'propaganda' campaign?
What (exactly) did they do in Michigan to convince some one who was going to vote for Hillary end voting for Trump?
Did robert-O vote for Trump because rascally Rooskies trick his little noggin?

[fish]

Hey Wine Aunt......when did you decide to gender bend and identify as “Roberto”?

[paul emery]

So Scenes your ho hum 5:48 doesn't quite qualify her as the biggest liar in the Senate as fish claims.

[Don Bessee]

Well isn't that special @ 741 says the church lady! LOL

Oh great pony tail of ignorance you might want to read the bills she sponsored which are all predicated on lies.

;-)

[scenes]

"
So Scenes your ho hum 5:48 doesn't quite qualify her as the biggest liar in the Senate as fish claims."

I'm easily bored with being your googlebitch. Do your own research for once. Is she the biggest liar? There's a 100 liars out there, so figure it out. With Clinton gone the choice isn't so obvious.

Generally, all politicians 'lie' if what you mean is that their campaign rhetoric doesn't match reality. No doubt you've claimed that Trump 'lied' because his wall isn't finished up.

Kamala is obviously a trigger-happy DA who is going to be rebranded as a BLMAntifa friendly VP. 'VOTE FOR BIDEN OR THE CITIES WILL BURN' isn't much of a philosophy.

On other matters, I check U-Haul prices every now and again. Seattle->Boise is $2112. Boise->Seattle is $119. Congrats on making Team Blue cities such wonderful places to live. No doubt the Idaho immigrants will enjoy seeing a miasma of teargas, used hypodermic needles, and street excrement in their rearview mirror.

[Gregory]

punch 741pm

But you agree it qualifies her as a liar, and the argument is over how big?

[Don Bessee]

Merit not box checking to get a job, what a concept says the First openly Gay cabinet member. -

Richard Grenell, the former Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) and the former U.S. Ambassador to Germany, told Breitbart News this weekend that President Donald Trump making him the first openly gay cabinet member in U.S. history has nothing to do with “identity politics” and simply reflected that the president picks the most effective people for federal positions.

“The one thing I love about President Trump is he doesn’t care about these issues,” Grenell said on Breitbart News Saturday on SiriusXM 125 the Patriot Channel. “He doesn’t play identity politics. You know, somebody recently asked me how many gays and lesbians work in the Trump administration. I had to answer, ‘I have no idea. I really don’t know.’ This person said to me, ‘well, there you go — that’s the reason — because we had 2,410 in the Obama administration, the Obama-Biden administration.’ I said, ‘I’d be pretty offended that I was on a list that says here’s our gay and lesbian list.’ Thank God we don’t keep a list. Thank God we don’t hire people because they come out of a box and say ‘here is a black, here is a Hispanic, here is a gay person.’ President Trump, I know him well, he doesn’t care about these types of issues. They’re irrelevant characterizations about someone. What is relevant is whether or not they can do the job.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/23/exclusive-richard-grenell-trump-doesnt-play-identity-politics/

;-)

[paul emery]

fish says she's the biggest liar in the Senate which is what I have focused my discussion on. Pretty tough competition Gregory. Do you agree with him on this matter?

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re: Paul EMery@8:49PM

That isn't what he said. Check your source again.

pertinent K. Harris pic.

https://imgur.com/a/ALytqzk

[scenes]

Welcome to 2020.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7Tg-h11G98

[George Rebane]

roberto 617pm - your reasoning is like a sieve, it has so many holes in it. But it perfectly explains away why you and yours remain happily mired in your Russian collusion complex. Given the demonstrated futility of this exchange, I leave you the joy of your convoluted thoughts.

[paul emery]

Not a hint on Kamala lies from fish. If she is one of the biggest liars in the Senate as he claims she should have some pretty obvious material to justify that opinion. fish is like Todd. He just makes things up with no documentation.

[Gregory]

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/kamala-harris-lies-repeatedly-in-first-press-conference-as-bidens-running-mate/

[George Rebane]

Greg 542am - touché Greg, was going to throw in that link this morning ;-)

[Gregory]

The piece is well-written and the address says it well.

I do hope punch can sit still long enough to read it.

[D]

Trump is winning! He leads 20,000 lies to, what, 5?

[Bill Tozer]

@ 6:50 am

Hope burns eternal.

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"I do hope punch can sit still long enough to read it."

If it's more than Drudge Report or a clickbait headline, I kind of doubt it. As a NC thought leader, he's got too much else to do.

I'd just like to hear what a 'lie' is. In my mind, it's not simply being partly or mostly wrong due to ignorance, and it's not claiming that you're going to do something that doesn't come to pass.

You do have to wonder what the Trump administration might have accomplished if the Democrats and their allies hadn't worked so hard to tear it down starting on day 1 (or day minus 60 more like). I don't doubt that the Democrats could have pushed for things they were after. We'll never know. I suppose that his biggest mistake was attaining office at the very same time as this new sort of modern leftist craziness had worked it's way up through society. Any (R) President (or (L) for that matter) would have run into the lunatics.

So far as a Harris/Biden administration is concerned, I honestly don't care whether they are liars and grifters, of course they are. The DNC put up it's most entrenched Swamp Things. It's more that they won't act as a counter-balance against this new and rather evil social movement that AntifaBLM is merely one manifestation of.

[Bill Tozer]

Might be on topic, or just more pearls thrown before swine, water tossed on the ground.

‘From DNC Irony to Parody”
The point is not what Democrats say against Donald Trump, or the irony of their rhetoric, but the very fact that their opposition somehow exempts them from the absurdities of their own paradoxes

“All leftists might privately concede that impeachment 1.0 and 2.0, the Hollywood assassination chic, the deification of Michael Avenatti, the 25th Amendment and Emoluments Clause ruses, the collusion hoax, the Steele dossier scam, the Robert Mueller travesty, the Ukraine madness and then Trump-as-virus-spreader, the economy wrecker and riot-inciter, all marked a new low in presidential destruction, all done mostly illegally or unethically. And yet the venom is justified in their minds, as pursuant to eliminating a supposedly existential threat to the establishment.

The point is not what you say against Trump, or the irony of your own ridiculous rhetoric, but the very fact that you are against him and thus are extended exemption from all rules of honesty and the absurdities of your own paradoxes.“

https://amgreatness.com/2020/08/23/from-dnc-irony-to-parody/

Which brings up an interesting dilemma: what to post? I once posted a long excellent essay in the Sandbox and Dr. Rebane, in his way of stating things, observed in his response comment that
basically I was wasting my time posting a link to such thoughtful long paper In the Sandbox that nobody would read. I never forgot that. In fact, I refrained myself from recently posting Yoram Hazony’s Quillette essay “The challenge of Marxism.” I figured nobody would read it, too long, and anything off the thread of Tangerine Radioactive Nightmare would drown everything else out.

I was heartened that Gregory posted it, folks liked it, and now I see that essay making the rounds on intellectual sites. Thank goodness.

Well, thank goodness Dr. Rebane provides topic posts where jewels can be found, whether they fall on deaf ears or not.

[Bill Tozer]

BIDEN’S WEAK RECORD IN RESPONDING TO PANDEMICS

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/08/bidens-weak-record-in-responding-to-pandemics.php

[Gregory]

Truth or Lie?

"I almost single-handedly made sure that Robert Bork did not get on the Court."
-Joe Biden

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Biden's America.

"This is insane. BLM rioters armed with semi-auto rifles have shut down the street in #Kenosha and ordered a Sheriff’s vehicle to stop. "

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1297770791891656706

[fish]

Posted by: D | 24 August 2020 at 06:53 AM

Trump is winning! He leads 20,000 lies to, what, 5?

Still not tired of winning dugsKKKi!

[Scott O]

Don 8:41 - from Grenell "“The one thing I love about President Trump is he doesn’t care about these issues,” Grenell said on Breitbart News Saturday on SiriusXM 125 the Patriot Channel. “He doesn’t play identity politics."
Ah - there's the problem.
You're now supposed to play identity politics. You are supposed to make sure the person checks at least 1 or 2 of the proper boxes.
The 'best' person for the job isn't the most qualified in the sense of merit or accomplishment - it's how many of the boxes they check.
Get with the times, kids - 'equal opportunity' has gone from Dr King's Dream to dog-whistle white supremacy.
It's 'equity' - equal outcome. All the colors of the rainbow have to be filled in even if the roads fall apart and the food rots in the boxcars.
Just remember that some pigs end up being more equal than other pigs.
Obama and his repressed wife are now working on their second sea-side mansion. Systemic racism has taken its toll on that poor family.
But they cling to the new 'dream' of reparations!

[scenes]

Quite a few vidyas of the highlights from the Harris/Biden rally in Kenosha.

https://twitter.com/livesmattershow

[Don Bessee]

The bernie bros are still unhappy and that may indicate a low turnout by them -

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/over-1000-democratic-delegates-voted-against-party-platform

;-)

[Todd Juvinall]

Biden is sure telling whopper lies in his pressers the ;last couple of days. Polls getting tight. Where is PE? Must be getting IBS over the stress.