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08 September 2020


Scott O

Don - "Just watched this interview and if she has the goods as claimed it could well flip the script,..."
And what would happen that's any different from right now?
Xi would apologize and empty China's vault to repay the world?
The United Nations would actually do something of import against China?
or maybe - Paul would vote for Trump?
I know you mean well.
We just found out about all the cell phones that were scrubbed and you know there won't be anything beyond jack and shite done about it.

Look folks - our govt is giving money to a network that gives a serious look at a person that claims looting is good for society.
We are officially out in space and gravity no longer works.
I'm back on earth living in reality and everyday I see folks by the score taking off for some insanity induced fantasy land.

Sorry - the 'script' flipped out long ago.

Don Bessee

No ScottO, it could well impact the decline to state mommies etc. in the suburbs and beyond.


Don Bessee

Well they said burn it all down in the peoples republic of portland didnt they -

One of the suspects, Jeffrey Alan Acord, has been accused of setting a fire along Highway 167. He live-streamed himself on the scene of the fire and reported it to police, claiming that he “literally pulled over to call it in.”

“Other drivers, however, told police they watched the 36-year-old Puyallup man walk into a field carrying a lighter and cardboard,” KIRO 7 reported.

The outlet added that Acord is a “regular attendee at Seattle ‘defund police’ rallies.” He is also facing charges for allegedly breaking into a gas station.



Scott O

Don - "No ScottO, it could well impact the decline to state mommies etc. in the suburbs and beyond."
Don - there's already waaaaaay more shit out there to sway these imaginary mommies.
I'm not saying Trump is going to lose, hell - I don't know.
But look.
We absolutely know China right now is doing the Auschwitz II thing and how are the suburb mommies reacting?
Uh, what?
I'll stick with my story.
Some individual woman who will be discredited by the left-wing NPR suburban mommy group complains about something in China so boring blah blah blah
Nah - they don't care now about atrocious behaviour but somehow in the future they will?
Not buying it.

Bill Tozer



Scott O

BT 6:39 - yep, that's what I'm talking about. Claiming that the wackos are suddenly gonna get their minds straight because some chick from China is talking trash about CV - yeah right.
We already know China was lying from the get go.
Why is some woman all on her own going to change the haters' minds?
99% of the soccer moms in 2 weeks time won't even know anything about this person.
Sorry - she'll get buried.
Count on it.
The vid BT had the the link to won't be seen by almost everyone in this country.
Do you think the Trump haters will watch it?
Of course not.
There is plenty of evidence out there and has been out there for years that the left is non-stop BS.
Ah, but now this chick from China will do the job.
I wish it were so.
I remember well I man I knew was remarking after the Benghazi blow up.
"This will definitely be the end of Obama and Hillary."
No - it wasn't.
It just doesn't work like that.
It all gets stuffed down the memory hole and disappears.


Apropos of nothing, but funny.


Bill Tozer

From Scenes’ 7:49 AM comment thread

Alana Mastrangelo

“The same people who are offended over “Baby It’s Cold Outside” and “Gone With The Wind” are defending CUTIES.


Bill Tozer

It was a dark speech. Gloomy. Dark.

‘Party of Darkness: Democrats continue bleak message while pivoting to global warming’
Nancy Pelosi gathers with G7 leaders, Joe Biden issues statement suggesting wildfires are start of devastating long-term ruin of America.


Bill Tozer

‘AG Barr decries the mainstream media as 'a collection of liars'
"They're a collection of liars and they know exactly what they're doing," Barr said.


So nice to hear the plain spoken truth.


Bill, and Trump is a collection of lies and he knows exactly what he is doing. Got it.

Don Bessee

More bad news for the TDS set to ignore -



Bill Tozer

The Sage of South Central speaks:

Larry Elder ‘Thanks’ BLM, Obama, DNC, CNN, MSNBC, Sharpton After LA Cops Are Shot. James Woods To Elder: ‘Thank You’


Don Bessee

Lets hope -

Pfizer CEO says coronavirus vaccine could be distributed to Americans before year's end
Pfizer's vaccine candidate, which is being developed in partnership with BioNTech, is moving to its Phase 3 trial



paul emery

Look what convicted felon and Trumps pal Roger Stone proposes about this years election. Pure fascism and government military takeover if the election doesn't go Trumps way:

“During his September 10 appearance on The Alex Jones Show, Stone declared that the only legitimate outcome to the 2020 election would be a Trump victory. He made this assertion on the basis of his entirely unfounded claim that early voting has been marred by widespread voter fraud,” MMFA noted. “Stone also urged Trump to consider declaring ‘martial law’ or invoking the Insurrection Act and then using his powers to arrest Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg, Apple CEO Tim Cook, ‘the Clintons’ and ‘anybody else who can be proven to be involved in illegal activity.”


paul emery

Looks like the military is not pro Trump according to this poll:

The Military Times Polls, surveying active-duty troops in partnership with the Institute for Veterans and Military Families (IVMF) at Syracuse University, have seen a steady drop in troops’ opinion of the commander in chief since his election four years ago.

The results, collected before the political conventions earlier this month, appear to undercut claims from the president that his support among military members is strong thanks to big defense budget increases in recent years and promised moves to draw down troops from overseas conflict zones.

But the Military Times Polls, surveying active-duty troops in partnership with the Institute for Veterans and Military Families (IVMF) at Syracuse University, have seen a steady drop in troops’ opinion of the commander in chief since his election four years ago.

In the latest results — based on 1,018 active-duty troops surveyed in late July and early August — nearly half of respondents (49.9 percent) had an unfavorable view of the president, compared to about 38 percent who had a favorable view. Questions in the poll had a margin of error of up to 2 percent.


Scott O

Paul - "Pure fascism and government military takeover if the election doesn't go Trumps way:..."
Better go back under your bed, Paul. Roger Stone has a secret army of millions of blood-thirsty NAZIs coming just for you!
It really is all about fear with you Fainting Floras. A man with absolutely no power beyond causing Paul to clutch at his pearls strikes dread in the hearts of the paranoids on the left.


Paul Emery: "Pure fascism and government military takeover if the election doesn't go Trumps way:"

Thanks for your input.

Listen. The minute that Republicans start burning down post offices, police stations, and car dealerships. Attacking police on a nightly basis. Assassinating law enforcement. Then, I'll take your fears under advisement.

In the meantime, try cleaning up your side of the aisle, m'kay?

Hey everybody, remember back in 2015 when the MSM was sending the word down to claim that Trump wouldn't accept a loss? Instead, we've had almost four years of Team Blue not accepting a loss. The Democrats could stand some sort of mass psychotherapy.

George Rebane

Ever wonder why PaulE is totally silent about Democrats preparing to oppose anything short of a Biden landslide? Why is he absent from the 'Democrats' Great Divide or Revolution' where the real plans are being made to pull down our Republic?

Roger Stone is not in the government, no longer advises Trump, but still raises the hokey hackles of liberals trying to get some traction against Trump.

Bill Tozer

Don’t you just ❤️ Raw Story. Guess they are the only ones watching Alex Jones lately. And to think he tried to contact Wikileaks for a heads up on the release of the Podesta e-mails, just like CNN was calling Wikileaks and about just about every other news major news outlet. You announced you where to release them, but when? Oh, when? When? We got to be the first! But, nooooo.

Anyway, the flamboyant Roger Stone said that? That just be ole Joe....er....that be ole Roger. He’s quite the character, isn’t he? He should learn better court manners. Posting on social media what a wretched beast his judge is while under restrictions (no-one fingered in the Witch-hunt was allow to talk about their case publicly) was perhaps not the way to garner sympathy for the judge, lol. That be Roger. He, too, says the most adorable things. Let ‘er rip, Roger! We love you, warts and all.


Just a quick rant on the quality that is modern journalism.

I was looking at yubanet for fire news, even though it has an embarrassingly strong political POV, they do provide a real service in that area.

So, there's an article....

That's interesting. Scarcely a word on what the new law in Switzerland even is. So I google for a bit, run into a hundred articles with the same outrage and very little information on the thing they're all outraged about. It's like there's a shield wall of 'news' with an approved philosophy and they are all told to print the same story all at once. I strongly suspect that the Swiss are targeting one of the holy groups of modern Leftism, Middle Eastern immigrant/terrorists but can't really tell. There's getting to be no reason to keep watch of MSM anymore. end rant.

Bill Tozer

Joe Biden when asked about the killing of cops, pulled a Punchy and Steve and issued the generic blanket statement, “l am opposed to violence.” Gee, talk about taking a stand with two blind eyes. “I see nothing, I hear nothing, I didn’t even get out of bed this morning.”——Sgt. Schultz
Dr.Rebane @ 7:28 pm

After all this time, you have to ask?!!? “ Ever wonder why PaulE is totally silent about Democrats preparing to oppose anything short of a Biden landslide? Why is he absent from the 'Democrats' Great Divide or Revolution' where the real plans are being made to pull down our Republic?”

First question is easy: No
2nd question is a bit more complicated. Why? You ask why? Let’s see. Maybe he is just Not that into what the Dem Machine is doing. He’s not a major party kind of guy. No interest to him, doesn’t catch his fancy. Maybe he doesn’t want to defend indefensible positions. Maybe he has TDS. Maybe he just does not want to talk about that kind of stuff. It’s the kinda off stuff Rawstory and Amy doesn’t cover. Or KMVR. Best he not comment of things he knows not of. Wisdom.

I, for one, rather enjoy his absence from time to time. But, that’s just me.

I myself can only wax poetic and say, “Well it ain't no use to sit and wonder why, babe
Ifin' you don't know by now......
You just kinda wasted my precious time
But don't think twice, it's all right“


Don Bessee

WHAT???!!! -



Bill Tozer

The Democrats’ partisan damage: Goodwin

The wheels on the bus go round and round. No surprise here.

‘Fairfax County Is Running Empty School Buses‘


Bill Tozer

1) Check out this political ad for a Congressional Seat.


“This kid is my hero”



Punchy just punches. Not for points from a judge... to hurt folks he despises. Drawing blood.

If Trump wins, there will be schadenfreude.

Don Bessee

Here is some very bad news for the TDS set, da ja vue all over again! LOL -

FiveThirtyEight Debuts Election Forecast: Trump Has The Same Chance Of Winning Now As He Did In November 2016

Posted at 11:31 am on August 12, 2020



Did you hear the prez has great minority numbers especially hispancis, black and asians?


Bill Tozer

Pat rants. Thank you, Mr. Trump.



re: DonB@8:50 September 13, Year Zero.

Here's the demand letter, it's even crazier than the Breitbart article let on.


a tiny observation, from the article... "the university must also address the underrepresentation of Asian American faculty (especially women and ethnicities such as Filipino, Arab, Iranian, Middle Eastern, Southeast Asian, and Pacific Islander) in the humanities and social sciences."

Prediction: Some wording will have to be found to break off the folks from Northeast Asia (Japan, China, Korea) from the innumerable demands. I suspect that they will be moved to become honorary Whites by the crazy people (with the exception of the tropes about Chinese Railroad Workers) as the pie is re-split among the interested parties. I need to think of a good acronym.

Of course, the real meat of the matter is this:
"IM6: Ensure pay equality for BIPOC faculty and staff by end of 2020; rectify gendered pay inequality among BIPOC and other faculty."
"LT7. Make retention offers for all BIPOC faculty."
"LT8. Abolish colorblind recruitment policies and practices in partner/spousal hiring and replace them with intentionally anti-racist policies and practices. In particular: a) offer partner/spousal hires to all BIPOC faculty, including assistant professors; "

Honestly, it looks like it would be simpler to just declare Cornell as one of those 'historically black colleges' with whatever passes for entrance requirements and personnel rules at one of those and be done with it.

But, like Paul sez, it's all just a Red Scare. Nothin' to see here.

Bill Tozer

Dr. Rebane @ 7:29 pm (again)....and Gregory @ 10:21 pm

I must be denser than dense. We have wasted so much time and energy refuting the Punchy talking points when all along the sole purpose IS to get rid of Trump. Take the impeachment ‘investigation’, the process, the whole shebang. We argued about the process, about fairness, due process, even whether the Ukraine phone call rose to a high crime. All that was a waste of time. I am so dense to not readily recognize that the purpose is to get rid of Trump. Everything else was just convenient smokescreen to achieve the purpose of ridding Trump from the Oval Office.

It is true. The entire Democrat Party and all its ideas and what it stands for boils down to Orange Man Bad. That’s all they stand for, nothing else, nothing to add, nothing to subtract. That is the whole of today’s Democrat Party. As they say, “the sum of the parts equals the Hole.”
In case you missed it, Adam Schiffilis has found another Russian Collusion whistleblower, ROFLMAO. Can’t wait for Adam to kick it in high gear with his anonymous smoking gun before the election. After all, this is Hillary Country. Mercy.

Bill Tozer

@ 7:16 am

What about Native Americans? What are they, chopped liver? Can’t put Native Americans in the back of the bus when they aren’t even on the bus. They are many, we a few.
On a lighter note:

“As if ambush of cops were not appallingly evil enough, a mob of “protestors” tried to prevent the cops who were shot multiple times from getting emergency medical care

THIS IS BLM. You’re seeing the consequences of the lib apparatus leveraging cop hatred for political power.”
LA County Sheriffs
Sep 13
To the protesters blocking the entrance & exit of the HOSPITAL EMERGENCY ROOM yelling "We hope they die" referring to 2 LA Sheriff's ambushed today in #Compton: DO NOT BLOCK EMERGENCY ENTRIES & EXITS TO THE HOSPITAL. People's lives are at stake when ambulances can't get through


What is so sick about this is that the Biden voters enjoy it.

Good morning all.

Bill Tozer

Before leaving Biden’s past as residue from the road and moving forward, a quick look back is in order. Nothing new, just a refresher.


Don Bessee

Do they really think threats are going to keep Trump voters from voting, i suspect it will have the exact opposite result in the real world -



George Rebane

Administrivia - the discussion of the Democrats' response to the election belongs under 'Democrats' Great Divide ...'

Don Bessee

Regarding the military view of the unsourced atlantic article -

A new letter bearing the names of 235 retired U.S. military leaders supports President Trump in what is described as arguably "the most important election since our country was founded."

Retired Army and Air Force generals and Navy admirals were among those who signed the letter, which was released by the Trump campaign Monday. The former leaders warned against the dangers currently facing the nation, and claimed that President Trump is better equipped to handle them than his Democratic opponent.

"As senior leaders of America's military, we took an oath to defend the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic," the letter says. "At present, our country is now confronted with enemies here and abroad, as well as a once-in-a-century pandemic. As retired military officers, we believe that Donald J. Trump has been tested as few other presidents have and is the proven leader to confront these dangers."

"With the Democratic Party welcoming to socialists and Marxists, our historic way of life is at stake," it says.

The retired leaders went on to claim that the Democratic party's positions regarding border security, the Iran nuclear deal, and policing also threaten U.S. national security.

On top of that, the letter cites military budget cuts under the Obama-Biden administration and warns that "Democrats have once again pledged to cut defense spending, undermining our military strength."

"After years of neglect from the Obama-Biden administration, our service members and veterans have finally found a strong advocate in President Trump," the Trump campaign said in a statement. "The Trump administration has rebuilt the military, completely overhauled the Department of Veterans Affairs, and launched groundbreaking initiatives to assist military families and prevent veteran suicide. In contrast, Joe Biden's record on the military and veterans is one of failure: debilitating budget cuts, failed foreign policy decisions, and an inability to provide our nation's heroes with the quality health care they deserve."



Don Bessee

Urban radio, hispanic media, national cable on Its the economy coming back stupid-



Don Bessee

Is anyone surprised -

The Obama administration allowed then-Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter to continue working at Ukrainian gas firm Burisma, even after U.S. officials established “strong” evidence suggesting that the company had engaged in corrupt activities in 2014, Just the News reported Monday, citing State Department memos and interviews.

Hunter, the son of now-Democrat presidential nominee Joe Biden, served on Burisma Holding’s board of directors from April 2014 to April 2019, getting paid tens of thousands of dollars each month, more than the average executives with similar positions.




This actually sounds like a good idea.


Don Bessee



Don Bessee

More bad news for the TDS set to ignore -



George Rebane

re DonB 630pm - Now we have shown several times this to be a no-holds-barred shakedown operation, and evidence just keeps pouring in that it was. Does anyone think that PaulE or his cohort would ever acknowledge this, let alone respond to it?

Don Bessee

Never gonna happen @903, its too scary to get into facts, the talking points are all that's allowed.


Bill Tozer

Monday quotes

Insight: “My fellow Republicans, we are the change!” —Ronald Reagan

Upright: “The pandemic of ‘wiped’ phones among the Mueller team requires a criminal investigation of this destruction of evidence and potential obstruction of justice and other crimes. The DOJ and FBI hid these records for nearly two years — which only adds to appearance of a cover-up.” —Judicial Watch

Observations: “It’s an amazing coincidence that all these professional investigators kept accidentally wiping their phones. You’d think these people could come up with a more believable excuse for hiding evidence.” —Rep. Devin Nunes

For the record: “America’s colleges, media, and cultural institutions are being swept by the ideology of ‘anti-racism.’ It openly advocates racial discrimination against white people, and promotes bigoted, lower expectations for black people. ‘Rationality’ and ‘hard work’ are vestiges of racism, declared the ‘anti-racism’ web site of the Smithsonian’s National Museum of African American History and Culture. It claimed that virtues like ‘hard work,’ ‘self-reliance,’ being ‘polite,’ and being on time are all a product of the ‘white dominant culture.’ So, too, are normal grammar, the scientific method, and its emphasis on ‘objective, rational linear thinking,’ according to a chart the Smithsonian posted.” —legal scholar Hans Bader

Hindsight is 20/20: “You’re missing the boat on how it works going forward. You cannot be elected president of the United States without CNN.” —CNN President Jeff Zucker to Donald Trump’s attorney ahead of the 2016 election

Dezinformatsiya: “The Creepy Conservative Obsession With Netflix's Cuties, Explained.” —Slate headline (So leftists put out a pedophilic movie and are “celebrating” it, but it’s conservatives that have the problem. Got it.)

Non compos mentis: “Jussie [Smollett] faces false charges of felony disorderly conduct and is still being forced to fight back against a relentless and vicious smear campaign initiated by the Chicago Police Department and uncritically disseminated by the media. We believe Jussie, not the CPD.” —an open letter of which Linda Sarsour is a signee

Braying jackass: “Good for [Trump] for having a distraction on a day when the numbers of people who are affected and the numbers of people who are dying from this virus only increases.” —Nancy Pelosi disparaging the president’s Middle East peace agreements

And last… “BLM is one of the most morally depraved political movements in American history. Rarely have we seen a group that is so cartoonishly evil with no redeeming qualities at all. They have no valid points. They should not be listened to or respected. They deserve scorn and only scorn.” —Matt Walsh

Scott O

Bill 9:29 - Nancy's nuttiness: "...on a day when the numbers of people who are affected and the numbers of people who are dying from this virus only increases.”
Has anyone actually thought about this sentence?
Were there other days when this wasn't so?
Is it physically possible for the number of folks 'affected' or dying to go down?
Aren't the number of cancer patients and cancer victims going up?
I've never seen the CDC to lower the number.
Sure will be cool when Biden is drooler-in-chief and the number of cases and deaths goes down.
Folks that died of CV19 under Trump will be resurrected by Biden.
Of course Nancy could offer some sort of plan to reverse the number of sick and dying from CV19 but - hey, we have an election to win.

Scott O

Ah - the latest Solyndra.
This is hilarious. They actually admit the truck was towed to the top of a grade and coasted down.
“Nikola never stated its truck was driving under its own propulsion in the video, although the truck was designed to do just that (as described in previous point),” the company states. “The truck was showcased and filmed by a third party for a commercial. Nikola described this third-party video on the Company’s social media as ‘In Motion.’ It was never described as ‘under its own propulsion’ or ‘powertrain driven.’”
Now - a fella like me would ask if the truck was 'designed' to run under its own propulsion, why can't it do just that?
Government Motors just bought an 11% stake in this con.
I'm sure the wild fires will cease once the crooks running this clown show get their millions.


My power went out at 1028PM, along with 2300 or so other customers. PGE didn't know about it until I reported it so it's probably not a planned outage.

So now, I wait ...

Bill Tozer

Quotes for Sept. 15, Year Zero

Insight: “Tolerance is a better guarantee of freedom than brotherly love; for a man may love his brother so much that he feels himself thereby appointed his brother’s keeper.” —Everett Dean Martin (1880-1941)

Inquiring minds want to know: “Will [Kamala Harris] visit deputies who were shot (31-year-old mom & 24 year-old) in her state? She visited someone in WI who was charged with felony 3rd-degree sexual assault and said she was proud of him.” —Scott Walker

Hot air: “Donald Trump’s climate denial may not have caused these fires and record floods and record hurricanes, but if he gets a second term, these hellish events will continue to become more common, more devastating, and more deadly. … If we have four more years of Trump’s climate denial, how many suburbs will be burned in wildfires? How many suburban neighborhoods will have been flooded out? How many suburbs will have been blown away in superstorms?” —Joe Biden

Trump vs. Biden on the attempted assassination of deputies in LA: President Trump responded to the attack, saying, “The radical left in America is waging open war on law enforcement. Hundreds of officers nationwide have been injured in left-wing riots and mobs.” Joe Biden used the assault to push his gun-confiscation agenda: “Weapons of war have no place in our communities. We need to ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.” Apparently, Biden thought the assailant used an “AR-14.”

Braying jenny: “I don’t find it a good use of time. Quite frankly, my experience with the president has been that it hasn’t been on the level. You know, he’ll say something and then it doesn’t really happen.” —Nancy Pelosi on not having spoken to Donald Trump in almost a year

Hyperventilating hyperbole: “We are witnessing a homicidal president convening, purposely, a homicidal assembly to help him get reelected as president of the United States instead of protecting the health and welfare of the people of the United States, including his own supporters, whose lives he is willing to sacrifice.” —Carl Bernstein on President Trump’s Nevada rally

Lack of Self-Awareness Award: “We deserve a president who cares whether his fellow Americans live or die.” —Hillary “Benghazi” Clinton

Letting the cat out of the bag: “A Harris administration, together with Joe Biden as the president of the United States…” —Kamala Harris

And last… “Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.” —Thomas Sowell


Just states rights Emery.
Not our fight.

Still in the hospital
We would have planted a Lib after all this time.
Get a dose of what I have Emery, and then come complaining about our healthcare system. Up for the challenge?


Scientific American makes first ever election endorsement - for Biden. Maybe Trump should not bash them so often - oops, too late!



Scott, don't you think GM would have based their investment in Nikola on something more concrete than a video?


"The Trump campaign ran a 'Support Our Troops' ad with a stock photo of Russian fighter jets"

Jeez, what does Putin have on him besides the Pee Tape?

George Rebane

D 825pm - link please.

Don Bessee

Note to troll, it was a high quality stock picture from an internet provider that had a generic description that an unaffiliated communications team used.

Bonus question - How many people including you can tell the difference between a nose shot of all of the twin engine twin tail jets flying in the world??

Didn't think so.


Bill Tozer

“Flashback 1: Harvard geneticist Richard Lewontin, writing in 2004 in the New York Review of Books: “Most scientists are, at a minimum, liberals, although it is by no means obvious why this should be so. Despite the fact that all of the molecular biologists of my acquaintance are shareholders in or advisers to biotechnology firms, the chief political controversy in the scientific community seems to be whether it is wise to vote for Ralph Nader this time.”

Flashback 2: MIT climate scientist Kerry Emanuel, as mainstream as they come in this politicized field (Al Gore references his work, and in one of his books Emanuel refers to Sen. James Inhofe as a “scientific illiterate” and climate skeptics as les refusards), offered this warning to his field in 2010: “Scientists are most effective when they provide sound, impartial advice, but their reputation for impartiality is severely compromised by the shocking lack of political diversity among American academics, who suffer from the kind of group-think that develops in cloistered cultures. Until this profound and well-documented intellectual homogeneity changes, scientists will be suspected of constituting a leftist think tank.”

Over to you, Scientific American.”



"Biden Unscripted"


It takes a country to raise an idiot.

Don Bessee

Fire luddites -




Just to cut to the chase.


Of course, it's her handlers that are the administration. The is really a counter-revolution after all. The Ancien Régime wants back in and will do or say whatever it takes. Looking at their local shills, it's pretty effective.

I'll bet there was a time when our beloved Green Libertarians would wax eloquent about how they wanted an INDEPENDENT PRESIDENT and THIRD PARTY CANDIDATES. They get one about as well as you can in this country, and they want to run back to the loving embrace of the big companies, three letter agencies, internet monopolies, MSM, perpetual war. lol, maybe it was a lie all along. Those shackles were sorely missed.

Scott O

D 12:17 - Hilarious!
"Scott, don't you think GM would have based their investment in Nikola on something more concrete than a video?"
Sure - Government Motors knows how to suck the dough out of Uncle Sam.
Nikola is the latest shiny 'green' thing to glom onto.
Don't you think all the really smart investors bought into Solyndra based on solid financial info and not just on some video?
The case against Nikola is more than just a video. I would suggest reading through the articles written about them.
It might be a good idea to see who in GM's management already has stock in Nikola.

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