Sandbox – 10oct20

[Businesses and taxpayers are leaving California, the census stats tell the tale that almost all CA leftwingers deny, especially the really dense local ones.  Recent notable departures are conservative commentators Joe Rogan (moved to Texas) and Ben Shapiro, who is taking his small business with 70 employees to Nashville – he tells his story here.  Even the very liberal Bill Maher when interviewing Rep Schiff takes him to task for the California exodus (more here), and cites a litany of butt stupid Democrat policies (more recent ones here) starting with high taxes and regs, and going all the way down to crap and needles on sidewalks populated by the tents of the untouchable indigents.  Schiff can only manage a lame, ‘I see no reason why progressives and businesses cannot coexist, we should work on that.’  Well no s#!t Red Ryder.  And our local lights of the Left continue denying the whole thing.  gjr]

Comments

[L]

So Paul, now that we know Hillary orchestrated the entire Trump-Russia hoax, should she be sent a bill for the $35million wasted on the Muller investigation? Or should she just go to jail? Awaiting your answer...

[George Rebane]

L 1027am - Or both?

[Walt]

Really L? You expect a straight answer out of Emery?🤣👍
Calif. will cut taxes in half first.

[Don Bessee]

Will they stop at nothing? -

The FDP applied for and received a $780,000 loan in April through a Building Fund – with no employees – and subsequently allegedly funneled the funds to the FDP itself, despite its ineligibility.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/10/congressmen-call-for-investigation-into-florida-democratic-party-looting-ppp/

;-)

[Walt]

That's the LIBS for you, a pack of thieving bastards.
Ali Baba and his 40 thieves have nothing on the Proggycrats.

[paul emery]

sorry I'm running a little late with my polling updates gut this is kinda a busy day. My quick glance didn't look good for the Trumpsters with time running out-only 24 for days and Trump is way behind. Tick Tock...

I'll have details later this afternoon.

[Don Bessee]

Heres one for the great pony tail of ignorance -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/10/13-polls-in-october-2016-that-showed-hillary-clinton-with-a-big-lead-over-donald-trump/

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Biden says voters don't deserve to know his stance on packing Supreme Court

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-voters-deserve-packing-supreme-court

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L: "
So Paul, now that we know Hillary orchestrated the entire Trump-Russia hoax, should she be sent a bill for the $35million wasted on the Muller investigation? Or should she just go to jail? Awaiting your answer..."

You know, that really is a good question.

Hey Paul, what do you think about that? yes or no?

Maybe you could spare a minute between your exhaustive poll research efforts.

...

While we're waiting for Paul, from the 'no movement is really grassroots' department.

"Is Warren Buffett the Wallet Behind Black Lives Matter?
The Tides Network is a powerful instrument leveraged by billionaires working to change America, while shielding their philanthropic dollars from public scrutiny. Here’s how it works."

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/warren-buffett-black-lives-matter

[Todd Juvinall]

Emery will not answer the questions so that is a non-starter for a liberal anyway. No apologies for the three years he trashed Trump for Hillary BS and now proven. liberals cannot be trusted for anything of importance just look at what Emery supports. BLM and ANTIFA. Pretty soon he will throw a party for Kim Jong Un.

[Bill Tozer]

11:53 am

Todd, for there to be an apology, one must admit he is wrong. The smoking gun is in Trump’s taxes or because The Walrus John Bolton did not deliver the goods for the impeachment inquiry, or because did not kick Putin on the world stage in Helsinki, or....... How can one apoligize when he knows he is right. It’s only a conspiracy theory until proven correct. We were proven correct with each passing day. Some, on the other hand, keep hoping they will be proven correct. Hope Burns eternal.

Further more, if one cannot/will not/ admit to himself he was wrong, then there is not need to say, “I was wrong.” And if someone admits they were wrong, then they would have to change that aspect of behavior and broken thinking....assuming they posses the necessary element of honesty. Some folks are constitutionally incapable of being honest with themselves. A great mystery. The unfortunates, if you will.

So, all you can expect, Todd, is something like this: “I was within the margin of error” in the 2016 popular vote.” Within the margin of error? In the electoral vote? What about all those 0ct, 2016 posts?
Pride indeed is a prison. Mix in a dose of TDS, and you have ‘the unfortunates.’

[Don Bessee]

Now remind me who is running for president again -

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/10/10/hillary-clinton-takes-shot-f-35-program-urges-retirement-of-old-air-force-planes.html

;-)

[Bill Tozer]

I took a few hours off yesterday only to find that Trump is a co-conspirator in some kidnapping plot and Nancy brings up the 25th amendment for the 25th time. Rust never sleeps.

‘THE GRETCHEN WHITMER BLAME GAME [UPDATED]’
The FBI has accused Michigan militia members of plotting to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The kidnapping was to be part of a wider plan to overthrow several state governments believed by militia members to be violating the Constitution, according to the FBI.

Whitmer, her fellow Democrats, and their media allies are blaming President Trump for inciting the militia lunatics. Whitmer repeated the falsehood that Trump has refused to condemn white supremacists. Others cited Trump’s criticism of Whitmer’s insanely stringent shutdown of Michigan’s economy, including a tweet that said “liberate Michigan.”

“Words have consequences” is the mantra of those trying to score political points off of the militiamen escapade.

Words do have consequences. But using this truism to condemn unintended consequences of words is a dangerous game — one that threatens freedom of speech and facilitates tyranny.

Whitmer’s words, blaming Trump for a kidnapping plot against her, might have bad consequences. They might incite a lunatic to retaliate by trying to kill Trump or a member of his family. Recall the attempt by a left-wing Bernie Sanders supporter to assassinate more than a dozen GOP House members at a baseball practice.

In fact, four years of left-wing rhetoric have created the possibility of violence against Republican leaders. A person stupid enough to believe the left’s claim that Trump is owned by the Russians might also be crazy enough to plot to kill him“

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/10/the-gretchen-whitmer-blame-game.php
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-MSNBC's Joy Reid Asks If Trumpites Should Be Tried at The Hague

-Harvard Student Newspaper FURIOUS Over Campus Republicans Endorsing Trump

-Shameful Hacks: Morning Joe Lobbies for 25th Amendment to Oust Trump

-MSNBC's Tur Tries to Prove Trump Voters Are Conspiracy Theorists

-MISTAKE: CNNer Touts Communist as Icon of Lifelong Voting

-Top 20: Celebs Rage Against ‘MASS MURDERER’ Trump and ‘BIGOT’ Pence

-Big Three Censor Poll Showing Majority Say They’re Better Off Now than 4 Years Ago

-CNN FREAK OUT: Camerota Brings on Pence Aide Just to Scream at Him

-ABC Avoids Reporting Police Shooting Victim Was Armed and Fired Weapon

https://www.newsbusters.org/

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[Steven Frisch]

What a shock, Sheriff Dar Leaf, linked to the Michigan militia members who attempt to kidnap and kill Governor Gretchen Whitmir, and who recently said that they were merely making a citizens arrest, was a featured guest speaker at the annual event of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Police Officers Association, a hate group headed up by Richard Mack,

https://cspoa.org/cspoa-2019-liberty-conference-report/

Yep, that is the same Richard Mack previously welcomed with open arms in Nevada County by Republican organizations...

https://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2013/10/sheriff-mack-in-nevada-county-reflections.html#more

https://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2013/09/sheriff-mack-to-speak-lefts-undies-knotting-up.html?cid=6a00e54f86f2ad8833019aff748170970b#comment-6a00e54f86f2ad8833019aff748170970b

....and of course the same community that previously welcomed...."Let's see, we have Rosa Koire, the John Birch Society, Richard Mack, Doyle Shamley, Stewart Rhodes, Orlean Koehle; who is next?"

Want a little more on who our local "conservatarians" cozied up too...

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/oath-keepers

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2012/former-arizona-sheriff-richard-mack-seeks-%E2%80%98army%E2%80%99-sheriffs-resist-federal-authority

And y'all wonder why I think you are a bunch of cracker ass apologists for white supremacy...

[Walt]

Try a little harder herr Frish. Anarchists belong to your side.
LIB news not tell you that? Miss the part where the conspirators hate Trump too. Anarchists and ANTIFA are pretty much one in the same.

Grant begging must be rough this year.

[Bill Tozer]

‘The Media Is Openly Pushing Secession as the Election Nears’.

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/the-media-is-openly-pushing-secession-as-the-election-nears/

Only decentralization can Save the Union
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Worth poking around the Takeout every so often. They are less acrimonious, more gentle. :)

[George Rebane]

StevenF 132pm - you continue striking out on every count when you bring us your 'research'. It seems that one of your dog whistle responses has long been that anyone who opposes progressive ideology is immediately a 'racist' or 'white supremacist' or ... . There is no evidence for any of those gratuitous assertions for the organizations you cite. But you can be sure of one thing, we fear you and yours way more than you claim to fear us. We know what our fate is should you guys ever get absolute power; you have already shown us that over the last century plus. And in turn, our gift to you will be a prosperous and free land that continues to be the most racially just country that indeed does provide equal opportunity to all. The people dying to get across our borders legally and illegally attest to that year after year.

BillT 249pm - Thanks for that link Mr Tozer. I find that more and more people from both sides of the aisle are beginning to fly in tight formation with Rebane Doctrine's long-held views about the Great Divide and its arrival sooner than later.

[Gary Smith]

Mr. Emery, ask President Hillary Clinton how accurate the polls are. With today's cancel culture are people really going to tell a pollster the truth about voting for Trump? Time will tell.
People are not leaving California. When the census data comes out our California government will blame Trump. He manipulated the data, it couldn't be accurate that people are moving out. Why face reality that you policies have failed.

[Bill Tozer]

Walter E Williams, human being, says:

“The recognition of the intellectual elite attacking free speech is not new. In a 1991 speech, Yale University President Benno Schmidt warned: "The most serious problems of freedom of expression in our society today exist on our campuses. The assumption seems to be that the purpose of education is to induce correct opinion rather than to search for wisdom and to liberate the mind."

Tyrants everywhere, from the Nazis to the communists, started out supporting free speech rights. Why? Because speech is important for the realization of leftist goals of command and control. People must be propagandized, proselytized and convinced. Once leftists have gained power, as they have in most of our colleges and universities, free speech becomes a liability. It challenges their ideas and agenda and must be suppressed.

Attacks on free speech to accommodate multiculturalism and diversity are really attacks on Western values, which are superior to all others. The indispensable achievement of the West was the concept of individual rights, the idea that individuals have certain inalienable rights that are not granted by government. Governments exist to protect these inalienable rights. It took until the 17th century for that idea to arise and mostly through the works of English philosophers such as John Locke and David Hume. And now the 21st century campus leftists are trying to suppress these inalienable rights.“”

‘The Fight for Free Speech’

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/walter-e-williams/2020/10/07/fight-free-speech
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‘Weaponizing Words: Language and Oppression’

https://quillette.com/2020/10/02/weaponizing-words-language-and-oppression/
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‘At Dalhousie University, Ideology Comes First, Science Comes Second’

“In recent years, Canadians have heard a lot about “indigenizing the academy,” a vague term that doesn’t yet have any fixed meaning. With Dalhousie’s pronouncement, we get a good look at what such indigenizing efforts might mean in practice: censorship of viewpoints deemed offside of Indigenous political demands. And yet it is also interesting to note that, once you strip away the fine words about reconciliation and community outreach, the university’s ideological diktat also happens to look a lot like ordinary corporate branding: The first sentence of the quoted text makes clear that Dalhousie is seeking to publicly position itself in a certain light, and so it would be unhelpful if anyone connected to the university went off-script.”

https://quillette.com/2020/10/04/at-dalhousie-university-ideology-comes-first-science-comes-second/

[Don Bessee]

Thats a lot of former dem voters -

The Florida Police Chiefs Association offered its first ever presidential endorsement to President Trump this week.

“On behalf of the Florida Police Chiefs Association, I am honored to announce our endorsement of President Donald J. Trump,” stated Chief Jeff Pearson.

https://www.oann.com/president-trump-receives-endorsement-from-fla-police-chiefs-association/

;-)

[Don Bessee]

This is a real problem for the frishy set they can not explain away -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/10/watch-blexit-member-being-american-isnt-a-skin-tone-but-knowing-what-your-freedoms-are-and-defending-them/

;-)

[Scott O]

Another Trump supporter murdered by ANTIFA in Denver.
But they're "just an idea"
Meanwhile Biden is claiming that the Rs are 'packing the court' right now by filling the empty seat.
And I'm I'm a white supremacist because I think everyone should be judged by their own actions.
We have quite a time coming up in the near future.
You might be able to win an election, but you can't change reality.
And I'm on the side of reality.

[Don Bessee]

While the sniveling rains down upon us from the TDS set in the real world momentous things are happening that only the prez could have done -

Are Saudi Arabia's rulers, historically critics of Israel and its treatment of the Palestinians, finally edging closer to normalising relations with the country often dismissively referred to in the past by Arab media as "the Zionist entity"?

Prompting feverish speculation on social media has been the scathing set of interviews given to Al-Arabiya TV by former Saudi intelligence chief and longtime ambassador to Washington, Prince Bandar Bin Sultan al-Saud, who lambasted Palestinian leaders for criticising recent peace moves with Israel by Gulf Arab states.

"This low level of discourse is not what we expect from officials who seek to gain global support for their cause," said Prince Bandar in the three-part interview.

"Their [Palestinian leaders'] transgression against the Gulf states' leadership with this reprehensible discourse is entirely unacceptable."

How, he argued, referring to the split between the Palestinian Authority, which governs in the West Bank, and the Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas, which holds power in Gaza, can Palestinians possibly reach a fair deal when their leaders cannot even agree among themselves?

Such words, said a Saudi official close to the ruling family, would not have been aired on Saudi-owned television without the prior approval of both King Salman and Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman.

By choosing Prince Bandar, a veteran diplomat and longstanding pillar of the Saudi royal establishment to deliver them, said the official, it was the clearest sign yet that the Saudi leadership may be preparing its population for an eventual deal with Israel.

It does seem that both by Prince Bandar's words and by quietly endorsing the recent UAE and Bahraini normalisations with Israel, the Saudi leadership is moving rather faster towards rapprochement with Israel than much of its own population.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-54437222

;-)

[Scott O]

Golly Frisch 1:32 - "...linked to...", "...spoke at...",
"....and of course the same community that previously welcomed...."Let's see, we have Rosa Koire, the John Birch Society, Richard Mack, Doyle Shamley, Stewart Rhodes, Orlean Koehle; who is next?"
The same 'community'?
I could 'link' Frisch to pedophiles in the same manner, but I won't because I argue against bad ideas based on facts, reason and logic.
Clean up your act, Frisch - you're making it obvious you have lost the argument.
I've been at events where all sorts of folk have spoken, including Eldridge Cleaver and William F. Buckley.
And don't look at my book shelf - Das Kapital, Mein Kampf, and Wealth Of Nations.
Gasp! - What does that 'link' me to?
My 'community' includes Bernie Bros and Trumpsters alike.
And the term 'hate group' has completely lost any real meaning.

[Scott O]

Don 6:13 - All of that is just a 'distraction' from the fact that Trump has failed to keep every single American from getting CV19.
We need to concentrate on the fly at the VP debate. Way more important.

[L]

Harris' and Biden's refusal to answer the court packing query not only tells us their plans in the matter, it also tells us something much more important.

By refusing to state, they also admit that they are ashamed of the idea and know that it violates the Constitution. After all, if it were in any way a good idea, they would be loudly endorsing- even promising- its immediate implementation.

I believe the term of art is 'guilty knowledge.'

[Don Bessee]

Sure sounds like a lack of confidence -

Democratic nominee Joe Biden said the only way he could lose the 2020 election was through “chicanery,” before later adding he would accept the results of the election.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-chicanery-polls-only-way-he-could-lose-election

;-)

[scenes]

scotto: "Another Trump supporter murdered by ANTIFA in Denver."

Evidently it was a mostly peaceful shooting.

https://www.9news.com/article/news/crime/shooting-near-dueling-rallies-denver-2-in-custody/73-6890f727-e44a-4a60-a777-a6fbe0730e0e

"DPD originally said that two suspects were in custody, and later found that the second individual was not involved in the incident. DPD said the second individual was a person of interest at the time of their arrest.

A 9NEWS producer and a 9NEWS contractor were taken into custody."

It's good to see the MSM folks finally showing their colors. I was getting bored with the pretend lack of bias. Luckily, it's not a problem on these pages.

Bummer that they couldn't just leave the Patriot Rally people alone to have their rally. I'm guessing you have to torch federal buildings to be viewed as mostly peaceful.

[scenes]

here you go. Biden voter doin' his thing.

"The shooter in Denver."
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1315090983302787072

[Bill Tozer]

L @ 6:53 pm

With those classic magical words, Biden told us all what he thinks of the voters. All the voters. All. Biden believes voters “don’t deserve” his stance on packing Supreme Court.

Do the voters deserve to vote?

Biden also said today (Saturday), Republicans Are The Ones ‘Packing The Court Now,’ ‘Not Constitutional What They’re Doing’

https://www.dailywire.com/news/biden-makes-false-claims-republicans-are-the-ones-packing-the-court-now-not-constitutional-what-theyre-doing
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SCOTT @ 6:23 pm : The Fly Episode.

THE WEEK IN PICTURES: THE FLY EDITION

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/10/the-week-in-pictures-the-fly-edition.php

[scenes]

Say, I didn't know that Austin of Austin Zone had a local relative..

"More Antifa/BLM celebrating the killing of a Trump Supporter.

""white supremacist"

"right in the fucking dome""

https://twitter.com/Austin_Zone/status/1315061044314869765

[Scott O]

Yeah - looks like the shooter was a hired gun by the local NBC affiliate. WTH? So the ANTIFA connection was just that they were happy the guy was shot dead. Nice folks.
But remember that ANTIFA is just an 'idea'.

[Bill Tozer]

Remember way back when to less than two weeks ago???

‘Biden Says Antifa Is ‘An Idea, Not An Organization’ during Presidential Debate’

-Biden and Wallace pressed the president to specifically condemn white supremacists and the far-right group the Proud Boys to which Trump said, “Proud Boys stand back and stand by, but I’ll tell you what, somebody’s gotta do something about Antifa and the Left because this is not a right-wing problem.”

The former vice president countered in saying that Trump’s “own FBI director said the threat comes from white supremacists — Antifa is an idea, not an organization, not militias, that’s what his FBI director said.”

The Bureau’s director Chris Wray told lawmakers earlier this month that Antifa is an ideology or a movement, not an organization, but said that activists were a serious concern and that Antifa is a “real thing.”

Wray said the FBI had undertaken “any number of properly predicated investigations into what we would describe as violent anarchist extremists,” which included individuals who identity with Antifa.

Trump, who has said he would designate Antifa as a terror group, said the FBI director’s assessment is wrong and added, “when a bat hits you over the head that’s not an idea. Antifa is bad.”

“Antifa is a dangerous radical group and you ought to be careful with them, they’ll overthrow you,” Trump concluded.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/biden-says-antifa-is-an-idea-not-an-organization-during-presidential-debate/

Hmmm. “Biden and Wallace pressed the president to specifically condemn...”. Biden and Chris Wallace sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G. Debate, Democrat Party style. Heck, Hillary had the debate questions handed to her and she still could not win a rigged election. Obama tried, oh man did he ever. The Russian Hoax was just an idea, right?

[Walt]

News guy hires an armed guard? Don't give Emery any ideas.
He's touched in the head enough. He already sees A "Cowboy for Trump" in every pickup truck.

[scenes]

What an amazingly detailed photograph.

https://www.denverpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/TDP-L-RALLY_874.jpg

Zoom in and look at gun, victim's right sunglasses lens.

I'll bet most people claim that this is *before* the shot.

[Bill Tozer]

Another Duh moment:
"Did she or didn’t she? Of course she did."

'Andrew McCarthy: Hillary Clinton — not Trump — colluded with Russians in effort to win 2016 election'
She did exactly what she accuses Trump of doing'

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/hillary-clinton-trump-russia-andrew-mccarthy

[Bill Tozer]

"Tell me what crimes Hillary committed! How many indictments thats all I care about. Then we can talk."--TDSer on comment thread. (A real hater.

Andrew McCarthy sez:

After Ratcliffe published these documents, we were no longer hearing much about disinformation. Now the talking point became: Well, there was nothing criminal in what Clinton did; she was simply worried about a potentially corrupt conspiracy between Trump and Putin — and who wouldn’t be?

Right . . . worried based on absolutely zero evidence. There was not a shred of proof that Donald Trump and his campaign had any foreknowledge of, much less complicity in, the suspected Russian hack of DNC emails. That, you may remember, was the sinkhole on which the collusion farce was constructed.

Clinton Retains Steele to Craft Trump–Russia Narrative

At this point, Democrats have no choice but to concede Clinton’s catalytic role in the collusion narrative because there is no other rational way to look at what happened — not for any sentient person, never mind Russian intelligence agents.

[fish]

'White Supremacist' Narrative Unravels: Whitmer Kidnap Suspect Attended BLM Rally, Another Called Trump A 'Tyrant'

Oh Punchy......disappointed again!

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/white-supremacist-narrative-unravels-whitmer-kidnap-suspect-attended-blm-rally-another

[The Estonian Fox]

Scott O @ 6:17PM.
Similar to my bookshelf, though I go you one better. I have 2 of Karl's books - Das Kapital sure, but also his slightly less well-known DOS Kapital. Just think, if electricity were available to him, we might have had computer software a century before Bill Gates came on the scene. And Karl would have been the first billionaire. Ironic, no?

I store my books in alpha order. So after these two comes Frank Herbert's DUNE. All three are grouped in my bookcase under "Science Fiction".

[George Rebane]

Scenes 941pm - photo after shot; the slide has not returned to battery yet after ejecting brass.

[Todd Juvinall]

Since it is now proven the Michigan militia alleged kidnappers are BLM supporters and anti-Trumpsters, I would expect some kudos from resident BLM and ANTIFA lover Paul Emery. Or should we call for his denouncement of them? What a hoot!

[Scott O]

BT 10:45 - "At this point, Democrats have no choice but to concede Clinton’s catalytic role in the collusion narrative because there is no other rational way to look at what happened —"
Nah - they don't have concede anything.
And they know the LSM will cover for them by not saying anything about it, either.
After a week or so if it happens to slip out, it will be dismissed as a "discredited right-wing conspirisy theory".
The fly, Bill, THE FLY!!!
Stick with the narrative.

[scenes]

"Scenes 941pm - photo after shot; the slide has not returned to battery yet after ejecting brass."

Exactly. Amazing photograph. Pulitzer prize.

I've found a new super hero for the 2020's.

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1315177650957082624

Check out the guy with the beer from second 2 to second 5. That guy doesn't give a toss.

[scenes]

lol. Here's a post that didn't age well.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/4/17/1653829/-Friendly-Advice-For-Antifa-or-How-Not-To-Become-A-4chan-Meme

"They have equipment lists that any Rightie can look-up and make sure they have before they go. Here’s an example of a generic list that you commonly see:

1. Helmet, skateboard, batter’s, hardhat, etc.
2. Boots.
3. Industrial gasmask.
4. Shield. Cut from plywood, or anything that can be used as a shield. A backpack will work.
5. 2 inch oak dowel, approximately 3 to 4 feet long, that you can claim is a walking stick.
Motocross or “tactical” gloves.
6. Ski or motorcycle goggles.
7. Large, 4 inch, carabiner that can be used as “brass knuckles”.
8. Face mask of some sort."

[Walt]

Todd. Add Herr Fricsh to that "denouncement" list.
He showed posting the same Proggy lie.
LIB WAPO buries the facts.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/11/nolte-wapo-buries-news-blm-supporter-allegedly-tied-to-gov-whitmer-kidnap-plot/

Screw the facts,, Just blame Trump.

[George Rebane]

Another Democrat 'truth' - If you don't acknowledge it, then it didn't happen. This joins their classic longstanding workhorse - Our allegations count as evidence.

[Walt]

Ahhhh... The good old " lack of Evidence be damned. It's the seriousness of the charge that counts" -LIB justice

[Bill Tozer]

Those darn leftist Antifa protesters sure like to burn things up. Firebugs. Massachusetts, eh? Who was it that said back in the day that “you can’t throw a brick in Massachusetts without hitting a liberal.” Or, maybe a couple of bored teenagers who are not reacting well to being locked down all summer.

‘Biden-Harris hay bale display in Massachusetts set on fire 24 hours after it was finished,

USA TODAY. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/10/joe-biden-and-kamala-harris-hay-bale-display-set-fire/5954953002/?

[Walt]

Just something different, when Iceland gets nervous about one of their volcanoes they usually have a good reason.
https://en.vedur.is/about-imo/news/the-aviation-color-code-for-grimsvotn-changed-from-green-to-yellow

[Walt]

The mark of a true Liberal. No matter what facts have come out,
like the fact that it was some of their OWN that tried to do the deed, blame Trump and the right. Your low IQ followers will buy any lie.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/10/11/whitmer-domestic-terrorists-are-finding-comfort-and-support-in-trumps-rhetoric/
" But, I do believe that there are still serious threats that groups like this group, these domestic terrorists, are finding comfort and support in the rhetoric coming out of Republican leadership from the White House to our state House."

Of course the likes of Emery and Herr Frisch will stay under their rock before admitting they are wrong.

[Bill Tozer]

Emery lives for the polls. I live for this kind of stuff below, although I find Scene's OCD over the street fighting Blue Mob of great interest and enjoyment.

The historical record will showv when it comes to locking her/them up, my voice rings loud. We all have our OCD interests. Daily update from mine, the Grestest Political Scandal in our history. Watergate does not even rank close.

Play it again, Sam.

'The latest revelations show Team Obama invented the whole RussiaGate scandal'

https://nypost.com/2020/10/10/latest-revelations-show-team-obama-invented-russiagate-scandal/

[Bill Tozer]

'Wisconsin Judge Halts Schools’ Policy Hiding Gender Identity Issues From Parents'

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/wisconsin-judge-halts-schools--policy-hiding-gender-identity-issues-from-parents/

What is wrong with some transparency? What the hay,the Lefys act like parents don't have say in matters concerning their children. The Lefties act like gubberment owns the kids. They really believe that.

[paul emery]

Hey Todd, have you pooped up any fresh internals supporting Trump to share with us? No need for a link.

[Walt]

Maybe not, but he passed an Emery.

[Don Bessee]

Sounds like something we heard before @514 -

This poll describes the current contest; it's not remotely close enough to Election Day to be predictive of the outcome. Look no further than 2016: Hillary Clinton held a 12-point lead on Oct. 22, 17 days before the election, following sexual assault allegations against Trump and disclosure of his lewd comments on the "Access Hollywood" tape. That contracted to Trump up by 1 point eight days later, as GOP voters set aside their doubts and returned to his ranks, and Clinton up by 2 points a week before the election.

Trump, moreover, has ammunition: 54% now approve of his handling of the economy, the most since March (albeit by a single percentage point). In contrast with his deficit on the pandemic, he continues to run essentially even with Biden in trust to handle the economy, 48%-47%.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/powered-trust-pandemic-biden-leads-12-points-nationwide/story?id=73528233

;-)

[Don Bessee]

Emery?
Emery?
Emery?

;-)

[Don Bessee]

You have to wonder how covid cuomo will play in flyover country -

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-considering-ny-governor-cuomo-attorney-general

;-)

[Don Bessee]

They let him out of the basement and he forgot what he said -

Democrat presidential candidate Joe Biden slammed President Donald Trump on Saturday for shutting down the economy, a move he himself said he would make if “scientists” recommended it.

Speaking to a reporter in Erie, Pennsylvania, Biden was asked if he would support a “nation-wide shutdown,” and he replied, “No, look, he’s the guy that shut it down,” referring to Trump.

Let’s get this straight, he shut it down,” Biden said with disdain.

That is a reversal from August, when Biden told ABC News he would shut down the economy.

“I would shut it down. I would listen to the scientists.”

Joe Biden tells @DavidMuir in an exclusive interview that as president, he would shut the country down to stop the spread of COVID-19 if the move was recommended by scientists. https://abcn.ws/31iFYHT

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2020/10/11/joe-biden-hits-trump-shutting-down-country-coronavirus/

;-)

[Bill Tozer]

Greeting all ye who doth have the affliction, aka, TDS. Sweet dreamies.

'I Didn’t Vote For Trump In 2016, But I’d Crawl Over Broken Glass To Vote For Him Now'
I don't care about the tone of his tweets nor if his opponents think he's rude. I've seen that he is a patriot who genuinely loves the United States of America and its people

https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/09/i-didnt-vote-for-trump-in-2016-but-id-crawl-over-broken-glass-to-vote-for-him-now/

[Bill Tozer]

Poll porn for Punchy

THE FUNDAMENTALS VS THE POLLS

"One of Joe Biden’s campaign themes is a “return to normalcy.” He means a return to the days when the Swamp ruled supreme, when politicians like Biden enriched themselves and their families while selling out the interests of the American people. But many voters are so tired of the endless hysteria of the last four years that they are willing to vote for Biden simply to bring it to an end. The howling two-year-old may be about to get its way.

To some extent, President Trump and his administration can be faulted for not fighting back effectively enough. For instance, it is hard to understand why it took four years to get to the bottom of Hillary Clinton’s Russia fraud. And now we have the announcement that John Durham’s investigation will not be completed until after the election–too little, too late. In part, this difficulty likely reflects the fact that a Republican president does not actually control much of the executive branch. And, in any event, can we imagine a different Republican fighting the Swamp harder or more effectively than Donald Trump has done?

In the end, if President Trump loses the current election, the lesson will be that one man can’t successfully take on the entire establishment. Trump fought the press, the schools, the dominant tech companies, the Chinese and Russians and those who are in their pockets, the anti-Israel lobby, the no-borders interests, the entertainment industry, the public sector unions, the greedy “green” interests, the useless career politicians like Joe Biden. The American people benefited, but it may prove to have been too much. The president’s epitaph might be: Trump fought the Swamp, and the Swamp won.

But who knows? It’s not over yet. Maybe this bizarre year has another surprise or two in store for us."

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/10/the-fundamentals-vs-the-polls.php

One man and his twitter machine against all the King's horses and all the King's men. We are little, they are big. We are few, they are many. Well, no use trying to get in their good side...it does not exist. Give em hell, Harry.

https://i0.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2020/10/download-12.jpg?

[NC Truth Teller]

you are very little, that is true. Very little.

Biden by 10.

[paul emery]

A look at all consensus polling and Nate Silver shows no movement
twords Trump. Nate Silver has him down to 14 out of a 100. Three weeks ago he was 27.

Also RCP Consensus polling has Biden holding his substantial lead and 270towin shows no movement for Trump.

Sorry for the bad news but that's my job here.

tick tock 23 days till the election.

Here are some links or readers to ponder

https://www.270towin.com/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/trump-vs-biden-top-battleground-states/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/

[Don Bessee]

So you still can not say what you think? Giggles!

#sadold fill in your own

;-)

[paul emery]

I present the facts on the election polls Don. If you disagree with then show me some options with links. Otherwise who cares.

21 days to go.

[Bill Tozer]

So, this is what the Old Grey Lady has come to? Reporters demanding censorship. "Good will be called evil and evil will be called good" my Momma always said predicting the future years ago.

'The New York Times Guild Once Again Demands Censorship Of Colleagues'
The Union demanded “sensitivity readers” for their colleagues. Now they’re angry that a columnist wrote about a major controversy.

When journalists exploit their unions not for better pay, improved benefits, enhanced job security or greater journalistic independence but instead as an instrument for censoring their own journalistic colleagues, then the concept of unions — and journalism — is wildly perverted.

https://theintercept.com/2020/10/11/the-new-york-times-guild-once-again-demands-censorship-for-colleagues/

[Bill Tozer]

JONATHAN TURLEY, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR

Democrats want voters in the dark with this version of 'Truman Show'

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/520464-democrats-want-voters-in-the-dark-with-this-version-of-truman-show

[Bill Tozer]

The Paper of Record and more chuckles, laughing out louds, and roflmaos.

-New York Times' Crazy Sanger: Trump’s Declassifications Make Him An Authoritarian

-MSNBC Uncovers an Unreconstructed Soviet Communist: Republican Senator Mike Lee!

-Fredo Cuomo: Trump Didn't Win Peace Prize Because He Encouraged Terrorism

-Hysteria, Panic Grip WashPost’s Jennifer Rubin on Trump 2020

-NYT's Astor: Literally Any Criticism of Kamala Is Racist and Sexist 🤣🥰😅

https://www.newsbusters.org/

[fish]

Posted by: paul emery | 11 October 2020 at 09:58 PM

Otherwise who cares

Who cares indeed?

[D]

Republicans vote tampering,

"California GOP installed unofficial ballot drop-off boxes. State officials say they’re illegal."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/12/california-illegal-ballot-boxes/

[Scott O]

Paul 9:36 - "Sorry for the bad news but that's my job here."
Oh Paul, if you only knew. It looks like you're the only one here whose personal life rises and falls with the poll numbers.
My life does not revolve around the inhabitant of the White House.
The 'sad' news I'm seeing involves the destruction of the Republic by the very people and institutions whose job it is to uphold it.
The schools, corporations and disseminators of information are folding to the mob of totalitarians. Increasingly our citizens are turning away from freedom and daring in the feeble hope of constant care and comfort from outside entities. The govt is more a result or symptom of our nation's malaise.
The clash of cultures will not be solved by the election of anyone.
Your 'sad news' is just noise, Paul. The real sad news is all around us tucked away in the back pages of the newspapers or buried in the small print of the latest policy paper.

[Walt]

Polls Ain't "facts" Emery. It's a fictitious snapshot of a moment. Easily manipulated to show the desire of the one paying for it.

[Walt]

The Proggys are sure drama queens. See all those big ass pictures?.. I'm not impressed... The need to be MUCH bigger.
They are sure turning the Q and A into a circus.

[Walt]

Some liar needs to pay attention to local news.

9:18 a.m. — A caller listed only as calling from Nevada City reported PG&E was cutting down trees. The caller stated they were a lawyer and that it’s not legal for PG&E to be doing this.

The tree huggers lost the battle last week in court.

[Walt]

Here Emery, The liar you plan on voting for spits out another doozy.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/12/nolte-biden-claim-of-being-raised-in-black-church-doesnt-hold-up-to-scrutiny/

“I have a lot of black support because that’s where I come from. I was raised in the black church, politically, not a joke,” Biden told the NAACP in January.

The Rev. Herring in the first quote is Rev. Otis Herring, which means the church Biden referred to is the Union Baptist Church in Wilmington, DE. Herring died in 1996, but the Washington Free Beacon reached out to longtime members and they say Biden was not there.

It's right up there with his first saying that he would shut the economy down, then just last week claiming that's something he would never do, and slammed Trump for doing it.

Is there no lie your geezer Biden won't say?
Here. I will answer that for you... "NO!"-P. Emery

[Walt]

Where did the TROLL nc fibteller go? You and Biden wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and bit you in the ass.

[paul emery]

I apologize. It appears that election fraud is a problem especially here in California:

‘Appalling criminal conduct’: California GOP accused of operating fake ‘official’ ballot drop boxes

California’s top election official is investigating reports that the state’s Republican Party has set up unauthorized ballot drop boxes posing as “official” in several major counties, an illegal practice that could deceive voters into depositing their ballots at unsecure locations.

“Operating unofficial ballot drop boxes—especially those misrepresented as official drop boxes—is not just misleading to voters, it’s a violation of state law,” California Secretary of State Alex Padilla said in a statement responding to reports of unauthorized ballot drop boxes in Fresno, Los Angeles, and Orange counties.

“California Republicans are allegedly creating fake drop boxes and tricking voters into depositing their ballots in them. Apparently they’re trying to prove voter fraud is real by committing actual election fraud.”
—Mark Joseph Stern, Slate
Defend democracy. Click to invest in courageous progressive journalism today.

As the local Orange County Register reported late Sunday, “In a photo posted to social media last week, a young man wearing a mask with Orange County congressional candidate Michelle Steel’s name on it is holding a mail ballot and giving a thumbs up next to a box about the size of a file cabinet labeled ‘Official ballot drop off box.'”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/appalling-criminal-conduct-california-gop-accused-of-operating-fake-official-ballot-drop-boxes/

[paul emery]

I'll have poll updates as soon as I have time. Things are getting worse for Trump daily and Ill have the details.

[Robert Cross]

IN the "republicans can't win without cheating: category -- pubbers are placing unofficial and illegal ballot drop boxes (ballot harvesting) in several counties. Perhaps they will destroy the ballots in order to advance their claim of voter fraud-- SAD..

https://www.ocregister.com/2020/10/11/unofficial-ballot-drop-boxes-popping-up-throughout-the-state-worry-elections-officials/

[Todd Juvinall]

paul emery | 12 October 2020 at 10:58 AM
Actually things are getting better for Trump.

Robert Cross | 12 October 2020 at 11:20 AM
Actually you and your lefty politicians are the diamond standard for cheating. You stole seven Congressional seats in 2018 with your democrat "ballot harvesting" fraud laws made legal. So boo hoo boobieC.

[fish]

Posted by: Wine Aunt| 12 October 2020 at 11:20 AM

Progressives always seem to get angriest over the copying of democrat criminal methods! Funny to watch!

[Walt]

Sure thing Emery, If it's Rawsewage, it's bullshit.
But you got suckered and took the bait.

[paul emery]

Grim details:

RCP has Biden up 10.9. That's is his highest number since (hold your breath!) Sept 2019. Trump down to 41.7, his lowest in three months

Nate Silver gives Trump 13 chances out of a hundred. He had double that , 26 chances, on election day against Hillary in '16 Also he gives Biden a 319-163 lead in electoral votes in 270TOWIN meaning Trump has to win all the 56 tossups plus flip 52 delegates now in the Biden total.

270 to win, as a result of their consensus polling, gives Biden 298 to Trumps 163 with 85 tossups. That means in order to win Trump has to win ALL the tossups plus flip 23 now in Bidens camp.

Hope you appreciate the research I've done for this blog.

All now now.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/
https://www.270towin.com/maps/fivethirtyeight-2020-election-forecast
https://www.270towin.com/maps/consensus-2020-electoral-map-forecast

[Walt]

And Emery is worried about a few drop boxes.

Your silence is golden. You too Bobby Sue.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/09/new-project-veritas-video-voter-fraud-in-ilhan-omars-district/

"A Somali whistleblower working in the sheriff’s office helped O’Keefe record evidence of a cash-for-votes scheme.

A“ballot broker” boasts about keeping hundreds of absentee ballots in his car trunk. He brags about them being filled in by people other than the voters. Often, money changes hands. Witnesses tie the rampant fraud to the campaign chairman of a prominent member of the radical “squad” in the U.S. House. Loose election laws allow people to come from out of state, vote, and then leave again.

This activity is really happening in America in 2020, and it’s been captured on video by guerrilla filmmaker James O’Keefe. Some of it could be coming to swing states near you if something isn’t done."

But it's just FINE why you Proggys do it.
NEVER a peep from you.

[Walt]

Poll TROLL Emery.

You LIBS sure forget who the "white supremacists" are.. Your people. You know,, like the Klan? A division of the DEM party.
Skinheads.. Socialists who followed Hitler.(a white supremacist)

[Todd Juvinall]

Internals looks great. Bye bye Biden/Harris

[Walt]

Here Emery and friends,, The American Taliban getting busy again. Proud of your feral LIBshits?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-portland-protest-biden-fools-antifa-radicals-lincoln-roosevelt-statues-toppled

"“These are Biden fools. ANTIFA RADICALS. Get them FBI, and get them now!” Trump tweeted Monday, responding to a video depicting the toppled statue of Lincoln in Portland’s South Park Block. The words “Stolen Land” can be seen spray-painted across its concrete base."

Yup, rewrite history as it never was.

[paul emery]

Can you share you're internals Todd with links like I have provided?

[Bill Tozer]

Walt @ 9:45 AM
“You and Biden wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and bit you in the ass.”

Well, Brother Walt, before getting around to knowing the truth, one must first get to ‘knowing’ anything.

‘Biden Forgets Mitt Romney's Name’

https://rumble.com/vanqmf-biden-forgets-mitt-romneys-name.html?
———————————————-
Brother WALT again! @ 11:37 am

“Sure thing Emery, If it's Rawsewage, it's bullshit.
But you got suckered and took the bait.”

My, my, my. They say the elderly who have fallen for a scam are the MOST LIKELY people to fall for a scam again again. Sad, there outta be a law. Sucker born every minute and there ain’t no fool like an old fool.

“ At a Judiciary Committee hearing, former FBI director James Comey and Senate Democrats scoffed at Ratcliffe’s frank, professional concession, claiming it discredited his disclosure in its entirety, and called his competence into question. He’d clearly been duped by Russian disinformation . . . said the people who seem to have made a habit of being duped by Russian disinformation.“

Hate to recycle old jokes, but....but the reason the Republicans moved out of the outhouse was because the Lefties were making too much noise in the basement.

[Bill Tozer]

Punchy

One does not simply share internals. You, of all people, the polling maniac and guru on the subject should know that. What, did you miss the first 5 minutes of polling class? It’s internals cardinal rule #1. The first and foremost rule from which everything proceeds forth. You do not share the internals. No ifs, ands, or butts about it. They paint a much more detailed and fundamental picture than simple polling. Where have you been? Wake up sometime before nine and smell the coffee.

Of course, sometimes Todd or a deplorable like Biker Bill may stand with our hands behind our backs, lean forward, and are allowed to gleam a quick read. A peek. The fundamentals have not changed. Less than 500 hours to go.

Are we there yet? Are we there yet, Daddy. I got to go!” Eat some refined sugar and settle down.

[Todd Juvinall]

paul emery | 12 October 2020 at 12:19 PM
No of course not.

[paul emery]

Todds inability to provide any links to his statements about Trumps polling proves that Todd's reference to "internals" refers to pure shit. Todd probably had a chunky chili burger last night that he's waiting to distribute that inspired his comments.

What a sad situation from a once respected up and coming local Republican politician.

[Walt]

Jesus H. KEYRRRIST Emery, Your dumber than we thought.

LIB news and POLLsters are tools of the Proggycrat Left.
They won't give Trump a fair shake. PERIOD.
Skew the data so it"looks" like Joementia is in good standing.

Now how did the POLL dancers score out last election? HHUMMMM????? They all were wrong.. BADLY.

Still relying on low info and IQ voters? Gotta get the felons to vote? Your already getting the illegals to vote with a ballot in every mailbox with NO CONCERN if that person is even allowed to vote.(that's right here in Ca.)O buzzard of Broad St.

[Walt]

One more thing Village idiot Emery. You not going to find internal polling data on line. Buy HEY,, don't let that stop your from chasing rainbows.

[Walt]

Sure Emery!! Biden is doing GREAT!!!!
Trump supporters outnumber Biden supporters!🤣🤘🏻🤘🏻🙉🙈🙊.
https://dailycaller.com/2020/10/12/trump-supporters-chant-four-more-years-biden-event-ohio/
"“Joe Biden, speaking of travel, is going to be in Ohio today speaking to literally several people on the ground — a state the president won in 2016 and is going to win again in November,” Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien told reporters Monday, according to CBS. “We are quite happy to see Joe Biden wasting a valuable day on the campaign trail in a state that he won’t win in three weeks.”'
And for your viewing pleaser,(or big letdown in Emery's case)
https://twitter.com/i/status/1315716928128913411

[paul emery]

Walt, that was then this is now. Besides, the polling showed Clinton up by 4 in the General election. She actually ended up by 2.3 so they were pretty accurate. Currently Biden is up by 10.2 which sould far overide any electorate whortage because it wou reflect an increase in the states Hillary barely lost. That's electionology (my word) 101.

The fact is Trump is still falling in the polls so until you see a reversal in that forget about a Trump win. He is also winning handily in the rust belt States that were the difference in '16

Pennsylvania October 12th 51.0 43.9 Biden +7.1
Michigan October 12th 50.0 43.0 Biden +7.0
Wisconsin October 12th 49.7 43.6 Biden +6.1

Also currently up in Florida 3.7 and Arizona is leaning Biden

Remember, Trump needs to win ALL these states to pull off a win.

[Don Bessee]

Creepy grampa joe came out of the basement and did it again, in front of a small biden crowd and a bigger Trump crowd -

Biden repeats gaffe that he's running 'for the Senate,' appears to not remember Mitt Romney's name
This wasn't the first time the Democratic nominee misspoke about which office he was seeking

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-repeats-gaffe-that-hes-running-for-the-senate-appears-to-not-remember-mitt-romneys-name

;-)

[Walt]

Keep flailing village idiot. Only the likes of you would vote for diminished cognitive skills seeking the Presidency.
That means your a Commie Harris supporter. Taking over for Biden 10 minutes after he "F"'s up the oath of office (repeatedly) (well,, on the outside chance Proggys rig the election for a win) You can't win without cheating.

[Walt]

Oh.. It's OK when Socialists are blocking traffic and running wild in the streets.
4:40 p.m. — Several callers from Highway 49 and Cement Hill Road reported Trump supporters in the road.

Nevada city showing the intolerance again? When the very same people demand "tolerance". Let the hypocrisy raign!

[Walt]

This how Emery's Proggy Press covers the happening news.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-amy-coney-barrett-hearing

The historic Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on the nomination of Judge Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court kicked off Monday morning, but anyone who relies on CNN for news might not have any idea.

The liberal CNN raised eyebrows by cutting away from the hearing early on, instead having pundits bash Barrett and then pivoting to mostly coverage of the coronavirus pandemic.

[Don Bessee]

Even masnbc is tired of the bs -

MSNBC host scolds Biden spokesperson for dodging court-packing question
'This should be an easy question,' Joshua Johnson said

https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-biden-court-packing

;-)