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20 October 2020

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D

Guaranteed minimum income vs. increased minimum wage. GMI, could work if the money for the GMI comes from the rich. The rich could keep raking in money through low wages paid to their workers, then those low wage workers would be paid through the government socialized program funded by the rich through higher taxes.

Walt

Damn Douchey,, Name the poor man that gave you gainful employment.
You haven't learned shit over the years. Those higher taxes just get passed right along to YOU in the form of higher costs on what you buy.
Yup you failed remedial economics at Berkeley, not to mention high school.

Walt

HELL is about to freeze over.
CNN admits Biden lied?
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/10/22/cnns-dale-false-for-biden-to-say-that-he-never-said-he-opposed-fracking/
"During CNN’s coverage of Thursday’s presidential debate, CNN reporter Daniel Dale stated that “it’s just false for Biden to say that he never said he opposed fracking.”

Dale said, “So, in this case, Trump is correct. Biden did make anti-fracking comments during the Democratic primary in 2019 and 2020, and Trump was not lying.”"

Now that had to sting.

scenes

"The cost of labor is another tax on business. And the more you tax anything, the less of it you get. "

It's funny how current times are the perfect storm for small business. Increasing regulation, huge growth in mail order due to COVID, ever higher overhead in hiring (not just minimum wage, but the whole tumor of modern employment law), large capital investments in automation that favor large business...it all adds up.

I don't expect Joe Xiden (or his handlers) to see the Law of Unintended Consequences built-in to their policy. No matter, in the long haul it's all about sweeping up economic activity and then parceling it out to the proper people.

So what does the USSA look like? It probably rhymes in a lot of ways. The Soviet Union had more doctors and poorer health care than the West. More efficient housing of people via apartment blocks and mass transit and government designed cars. State controlled companies working towards peculiar and often contradictory goals. Beaucoup surveillance combined with party-designed peer pressure. A reasonably high level of learning for party officials and their progeny combined with a general lack of work ethic. Good jokes written about the government along with a malaise among the people. Investments in mass spectacles and sports while parceling out recreational sedatives. A strong need for external enemies to keep the Spice flowing to the Army.

Maybe Soviet America is just a Soviet Union with the addition of tree sitters.

scenes

d sez: "Guaranteed minimum income vs. increased minimum wage. GMI, could work if the money for the GMI comes from the rich. "

Heck, we could all be rich if we just got the money from the rich.

While I do have to wonder what good a guaranteed annual income has done for the US welfare class, and the country is littered with government largesse like AFDC, General Assistance, something like 2/3 of Medicare, Medicaid, SS for low earners, gubmint jobs for useless people, perhaps bread and circuses are inevitable due to automation, overpopulation, and offshoring by those same rich people.

Obviously any strong employment push like selective tariffs, decrease in mass immigration, energy independence, local content laws is out of the question by both the Left and the Swamp so we can just drop that as a concept (but Mr. Scenes, the response pules, what about the 20 dollar lettuce if we don't have field hands?...ignoring the effect of minimum wage for US citizens...not to mention the fact the most illegals are *not* farm workers).

I can see where it all heads. Encourage centralization of money by favored companies, skim off money, hand it out to your friends and favorite voters...all the while encouraging a bored and somewhat violent underclass.

As long as I can watch from a distance, I say go for it. Dunno why the one-party Great State of California is unable to invent it's own guaranteed income system (along with health care system), but I guess you end up with the same problem as communist countries, you have to build a wall around it.

George Rebane

scenes 934am - Yes, and the purpose of the wall will be to keep people from leaving that workers' paradise.

Walt

Where did D---- Go? Still waiting for the name of that poor bastard that gave him a high dollar job.

Would that be,, say,,, the taxpayers? Handing over money with a gun to their collective heads? The gov. giving under qualified idiots like D---- a make busy job?

Walt

Speaking of "leaving",, the State of Ca. is hemorrhaging taxpayers. They are leaving the state in droves. Just to infect other states with their Proggyism.
They will go to other states to leave the damage they did here, just to repeat it somewhere else.

scenes

"Yes, and the purpose of the wall will be to keep people from leaving that workers' paradise."

You have to admit that it's a thing that Marx seems to have overlooked, along with peoples' inherent ethnic/cultural tribalism (which has to be beat out of them). A requirement for a socialist state is either worldwide expansion, or to entrap useful people who can do better elsewhere.

Gotta have them inward-facing walls and the fact that they are universally applied implies that it's baked into that form of government.

scenes

"Speaking of "leaving",, the State of Ca. is hemorrhaging taxpayers."

That's the brilliance of a far-left national government, there ain't nowhere to go.

The cost of exit is so impractical that everyone is trapped and subject to their brilliant scheme of the day.

In the case of a Xiden administration, a 50:50 situation I think (as usual, although it's always obvious in retrospect), my main canary in the controlmine will be the inevitable gun control that would come along with. Take the (D) firearms campaign plank, combine with Feinstein's definition of firearms, their intense need to disarm Team Red, and you can see the endgame.

After you control the means of communication, school administration and teaching, and the political layer of law enforcement, all that's really left (so to speak) is installing a commissar class within the armed services and then a roll-up from the bottom via removing the means of force from everyday people.

It's all neatly done.

None of this will last of course, it never does. None of these systems are inherently stable (with the occasional exception of hereditary monarchies) and in the truly long-term plate tectonics will handle the problem of the Blue Mob.

George Rebane

Rebane Doctrine tenet: Ignorant electorate + Dab of socialism = Slippery Slope

scenes

One of the masterminds of the modern Democratic Party.

"Did @realDonaldTrump just say 545 kids they can't find their parents for came over through "cartels and coyotes"?! How the hell does a coyote bring a whole human across the border?! Lord-----stop talking. "

https://twitter.com/DarshunKendrick/status/1319459569073008641

George Rebane

scenes 1020am - I found it interesting last night that Trump didn't point out that of the 545 kids, their coyotes would, of course, not return to retrieve them. More to the point are those of the 545 kids who were brought over by some relative who supposedly loves them and is concerned about their welfare. Why are they not returning to retrieve their incarcerated youngsters? While we all know the answer, it should nevertheless be noted that America is such a desirable destination that not only are the illegals willing to risk life, limb, and loot to get here, they are also ready to abandon their progeny if that's the price of staying here, even as a fugitive. Bottom line, human life - even of your kin - is not of infinite worth in many cultures. The whole thing gives lie to the Democrats' characterization of America and its current immigration policy.

Walt

Bad news for Emeryville.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/23/rasmussen-trump-approval-among-likely-black-voters-jumps-46-debate/
"Rasmussen: Trump Approval Among Likely Black Voters Jumps to 46% After Debate"

Trump took the gates off the hinges from the DEM plantations.

Don Bessee

Who's got the MO baby -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/23/michigan-poll-donald-trump-49-joe-biden-45/

;-)

Walt

So Clinton sells missile tech to China. ( before that China couldn't deliver a nuck across town)
Then "O"&Co. (yes that means Biden) sell out to China more sensitive companies.

"In September 2015, the Obama-Biden administration approved the sale of a strategically sensitive Michigan manufacturer, Henniges Automotive, to a firm connected to Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, and a Chinese military contractor that was on an American watch list because of its close ties to the People’s Liberation Army. Hunter Biden’s equity fund, backed by the Communist Chinese government, and the Chinese contractor, Aviation Industry Corporation (AVIC), needed special approval for the deal from the Committee of Foreign Investment in the U.S. (CIFIUS) because Henniges produced technology with potential military use.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/23/code-name-project-hanson-insider-documents-reveal-how-hunter-biden-associates-helped-chinese-military-contractor-acquire-michigan-dual-use-manufacturer/

Check out the picture from somewhere China... Nice trophy.

Scott O

Duh 8:51 - Ah, you continue to amuse.
"GMI, could work if the money for the GMI comes from the rich."
Define "the rich"
And what amount would you set the GMI at?
Times what?
Our current population is around 340M.
Now add how many million to that every year from all the folks that will show up from any where in the world.
Don't forget "the rich" will also be paying for free college, the natl debt, and some other free stuff we'll be dumping in there.
Yep - bound to be a paradise.
Duh has it all figured out.

Bill Tozer

Scott O

Yep, the rich could pay for free college and/or wipe out the student loan debt of those currently enrolled in our fine institutions....er...fine institutions of higher learning for about One Year(Year Zero?) and have nothing left for the incoming freshman or those who are in the job market paying off their crippling student loan debt, doing the honorable thang. Or for anything else on the long list of “the rich will pay for it with their gazillion dollars.
That’s why so many with degrees live in the basement. Even Momma does not want her darling back in his/her old bedroom on the Main floor, just down the hall. “Close, but not that close, John Deere,” saId the Caterpillar to the tractor.
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Dr. Rebane @ 10:38, 545 kids

Some parents simply refuse to take their child back. Wards of the state, now. Angry kids, juvenile delinquents are the result of growing up knowing your parents abandoned you. “They wanted you to have a better life” just don’t cut it with a kid in a foreign country alone, no friends, no family. Foster program for you if the schools don’t expell them for violent behavior. Next, Juvenal Hall. Then, straight onto the Prison Pipeline.

Bill Tozer

ROFLMFUEO

‘Buzzfeed Tries To Dismiss Hunter Biden Emails As ‘Stolen,’ Gives No Evidence To Support Claim’

https://www.dailywire.com/news/buzzfeed-tries-to-dismiss-hunter-biden-emails-as-stolen-gives-no-evidence-to-support-claim
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‘Former Hunter Biden Business Partner Who Said He’d Turn Over Evidence Is Meeting With FBI Today’
https://www.dailywire.com/news/former-hunter-biden-business-partner-who-said-hed-turn-over-evidence-is-meeting-with-fbi-today
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re: They Don’t Know Squad

Trump Condemns ‘Coyotes’ On The Southern Border; Progressives Take Him Literally
"How the hell does a coyote bring a whole human across the border?!"

https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-condemns-coyotes-on-the-southern-border-progressives-take-him-literally

Don Bessee

Funny the pony tail of ignorance is absent, could it be the polls are all going the wrong way for him? -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/23/polls-show-arizona-sen-martha-mcsally-taking-lead-from-democrat-challenger-mark-kelly/

;-)

Bill Tozer

Squat for Brains

“And to think, the left incessantly screams about Trump’s immigration policies. Clearly many of them haven’t been paying attention to any of the actual details. Again, they forget Obama built the cages, and released caught children back into the hands of traffickers, and they think Coyote as is the character from Looney Tunes.”


Scott O

BT 3:23 - "...and they think..."
You're giving them way too much credit, Bill. They rarely think anything.
You have noticed the lack of responses from the port side of our electronic pals? Oh - they're pretty good at being myna birds.
They read something and then show up here and regurgitate the same and smugly walk away. When have any of them been able to stand and deliver on our challenges? They might be able to come back with some juvenile name-calling, but that would be the extent of it.
Exhibit A would be Duh claiming "the rich" will pay for a national GMI.
He read that somewhere. Beyond that he has not one clue. May as well be a ventriloquist's dummy.

Don Bessee

Who would have thought it just a few years ago -

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/10/23/watch-breitbart-news-latinos-on-2020-hispanic-conservative-awakening/

;-)

Don Bessee

Ya, ya think -

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/shy-trump-voters-will-power-his-win-says-pollster-who-called-2016-race-203448623.html

;-)

Don Bessee

Consequences -

C-SPAN caller implies he's 'leaning' toward voting Trump over media ignoring Hunter Biden story
'You know what Americans don't like? They don't liked a rigged deck,' Jimmy from Maine told 'Washington Journal'

https://www.foxnews.com/media/c-span-caller-leaning-trump-biden-hunter-biden-story

;-)

Don Bessee

Cracks in the blue wall -

CNN's Van Jones: Trump 'doesn't get enough credit' for the 'good stuff he has done for the Black community'

Jones says he gets 'beat up by liberals' every time he credits the president

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-van-jones-trump-not-enough-credit-black-community

;-)

Don Bessee

Now THATS FUNNY! -

https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-conservative-pac-satirical-campaign-ad-weekend-at-bidens

;-)

Don Bessee

A note to the pony tail of ignorance -

https://www.oann.com/polls-show-president-trump-won-debate-against-biden/

;-)

Don Bessee

Who has the MO? -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/23/florida-poll-donald-trump-50-joe-biden-48/

;-)

Don Bessee

Yup -

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/us-election-four-reasons-pause-084836555.html

;-)

Don Bessee

They can not protect him now-

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/23/donald-trump-joe-biden-works-for-big-tech-big-media-they-keep-scandals-quiet/

;-)

Don Bessee

Emery?

Emery?

Emery?

LOL ;-)

Don Bessee

WOW! -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/24/shock-poll-donald-trump-down-one-point-among-black-voters-in-battleground-michigan/

;-)

Don Bessee

Not what the TDS set was hoping for -

President Trump’s dominance in this debate was captured by pollster Frank Luntz in a report on the key words his focus group used to describe the two candidates after it was over.

According to Luntz, his group described President Trump as controlled, reserved, poised, con artist, and surprisingly presidential. (The mainstream media will focus on “con artist” and ignore the others, I’m sure)

Yet, after the first debate four of those words were more than any Trump adviser could have hoped for. By contrast Luntz’s group described Biden as vague, unspecific, elusive, defensive and grandfatherly.

Somehow, I don’t think vague, elusive, defensive and grandfatherly are winning terms (I dropped unspecific because it is not as harsh).

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-biden-final-debate-newt-gingrich

;-)

Don Bessee

If it weren't for double standards they would have none at all -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/24/sen-hirono-refuses-to-ask-joe-biden-to-apologize-for-saying-sexual-preference/

;-)

Don Bessee

Emery? Emery? Emery? -

Brooks said, “The one moment I think people are underplaying, which would worry me if I were on the Biden team, was that moment of transitioning away from oil and gas. That — Hillary Clinton said something like that about transitioning away from coal last time, and it really hurt her, not only in coal countries. It’s a cultural statement. A lot of people say, hey, I work in manufacturing. I work in industry. What, do we just not exist for you people? And so I think that statement has the potential to reverberate a little in some communities in a way, frankly, that a lot of us in the media won’t quite anticipate how people are hearing that, hearing it as an insult.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/10/24/brooks-people-are-underplaying-bidens-comment-about-oil-transition/

;-)

Don Bessee

Tru dat -

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/finance/news/stocks-will-do-better-if-trump-wins-the-election-according-to-this-new-data-160531329.html

;-)

George Rebane

DonB 139pm - Should that insight qualify for a Nobel economics nomination?

Don Bessee

Now we know what got traction in the final debate -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/24/breitbart-land-data-shows-number-one-online-story-in-america-about-debate-is-biden-corruption/

;-)

Don Bessee

We will take all the help we can get. Even the real BIG GUY! LOL -

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nuns-maga-masks-trump-rally

;-)

Don Bessee

Creepy grampa joe f(*ked up again telling too much truth about team lefty -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/24/joe-biden-touts-most-extensive-inclusive-voter-fraud-organization-in-history-of-american-politics/

;-)

Don Bessee

You go girls!! -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/24/beverly-hills-goes-maga-as-thousands-of-trump-supporters-rally/

;-)

Don Bessee

Cant walk that back, too late in the game, we know you mean it -

I’ll work as hard for those who don’t support me as those who do, including those chumps at the microphone out there,”

The comments quickly struck many political observers as similar to those of Hillary Clinton in 2016 when she disparaged Trump supporters as “deplorables.”

Biden’s differing remarks in Luzerne and Bucks County indicate the complicated coalition Democrats are trying to put together in Pennsylvania in order to carry the state’s Electoral College votes this year.

In 2016, Trump bested Clinton by just 44,292 votes out of more than six million ballots in the Keystone state. Trump’s one percent margin of victory, narrow though it was, made him the first Republican to carry Pennsylvania since President George H.W. Bush’s 1988 landslide.

The victory was made possible by Trump’s appeal in counties like Luzerne, which were once safe for Democrats. Luzerne, where Wilkes Barre is located, was at one point home to coal mines and manufacturing plants. Like much of the industrial United States, Luzerne was hit hard by the push towards globalization in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Even as manufacturing began leaving throughout that time, the county’s residents continued backing Democrat presidential candidates by a substantial margin.

Four years ago, however, the status quo broke when Trump became the first Republican White House aspirant to win the county since 1988. Trump garnered 57.9 percent of the county’s vote against Clinton, who only took 38.6 percent, in part by appealing to the same voters that would have been considered safe Democrats even a decade prior. That point was evidenced by the fact that just four years earlier, President Barack Obama had carried Luzerne by five percentage points, 51 percent to 46 percent.

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/10/24/clean-up-biden-tries-populist-tone-in-pennsylvania-after-calling-trump-supporters-chumps/

;-)

Don Bessee

IF she can not remember where the hell she is its no better than creepy grampa joe. Its clear that it is either lies or dementia, so sad for a younger!. -

Kamala Harris caught on hot mic checking rally location: 'Are we in Cleveland?'
Harris also overstated the U.S. death toll of the coronavirus, saying it had killed "over 220 million" Americans instead of 224,000

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-caught-on-hot-mic-checking-rally-location-are-we-in-cleveland

Bill Tozer

Media Deliberately Ignore U.S. Intel To Keep Falsely Labeling Biden Bombshells ‘Russian Misinformation’

"On Saturday, the Washington Post published a “perspective” calling on media to label Joe Biden’s scandals “foreign misinformation” even though top U.S. intelligence officials went on record days before to call that claim utterly false."

https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/25/media-deliberately-ignore-u-s-intel-to-keep-falsely-labeling-biden-bombshells-russian-misinformation/

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