Voter Fraud 2.0 … until the fat lady sings (updated 15nov20)

George Rebane

To describe what is going on with this election as hanky-panky is to diminish what appears as the first verifiable assault on the seminal institution that we use to maintain our democratic republic – the right and practice of franchised citizens to regularly impact the governance of their country.

Evidence is pouring in from all quarters about voter fraud, evidence that has been filed by poll workers, poll watchers, and witnesses who have provided sworn affidavits and statements – punishable as perjury if falsified – of a wide spectrum of illegal and criminal activities taking place at polling places and vote counting centers.  Enough of this has been happening to cause the DoJ to order all US attorneys across the land to begin investigating these allegations.

Last night on FN Tucker Carlson went through a litany of some of the evidence that the US attorneys will be looking at (here).  (Odd that FN has pulled this commentary from its site.)  You don’t have to be a fan of Carlson to note the factual content of his commentary, confirm it yourself, and compare it with what you’ve seen on the lamestream.  An important part of the data that is now a matter of record is the history of grossly inaccurate polling results with which the country has been blanketed in the weeks leading up to the election.

It turns out that the polls across the board were grossly wrong in favor of Joe Biden.  The more important impact of such erroneous polling was how they influenced the vote.  University of Michigan (here) and McGill University (here) have done studies of this which delineate how polls favoring this or lambasting that affect voter attitudes.  In America our polls were off, sometimes hundreds of percents and of opposite polarity, for electoral contests ranging from the president to the states’ down-ticket candidates and issues.  And for some odd reason, they were overwhelmingly in error toward the Left.  This was similar to the late-discovered ballots and mail-ins arriving at vote counting centers that defied voting demographics, voting history, and elementary statistics in their one-sidedness (more here and here).  And we haven’t yet come to the vote changing software (here) that people have alleged was used (and exposed unintentionally on CNN (here) where Trump’s vote count goes down the precise amount that Biden’s went up before the cutaway from the scene).

All the Dems and lamestream outlets are ostracizing the closer examination of this election's fraud, claiming that, no matter if true, none of what has been reported is enough to change the election's outcome.  That in itself may well be false because the actual validations and recounts have not been completed.  But the logic of the admonition itself is grossly faulty, for it assumes that all the fraud discovered to date is all that there is.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  (For the technically inclined, consider the individual allegations as a sequence of events in a minimally known process.  Then compute the probability that the process ended with its most recent event.  To help you do this Download TN2011-1_DiscreteEventR-Gprobs )

The greater impact of this on our institutions and ultimately on Americans’ trust in their country’s electoral processes is summarized by Victor Davis Hanson (here).  The bottom line is that we are done as a liberal democracy once the people no longer believe in elections or that their legal votes matter.

[11nov20 update] There is now a chorus of commentators on various media outlets (yes, even some liberal ones) who correctly opine about completing the investigations of the numerous reported election irregularities and alleged voter fraud around the country.  What our Left predictably pooh-poohs as rightwing sour grapes, and tells to “suck it up” and get on with it will not work in the country’s longer-term polity.  We have lost faith in the election process as it now stands.  There are at least half of us in America who want the reported incidents of malfeasance resolved, one way or the other, before trust is restored in our elections.  A democratic republic cannot continue to function under liberal governance once its elections are seen by a major fraction of its citizenry as corrupt and corruptible.  The natural progression of such a state of affairs is to a strong-arm autocracy.

The truth of the matter, not considered by today’s light thinkers, is that the Left will be equally put out again when they lose another major election.  I say ‘again’ because they were maximally put out for years after Hillary lost in 2016, and showed the country how they could disrupt, not only the duly elected administration, but also the rest of the federal government.  These progressives and their militant radicals not only rejected the legitimacy of the election, they also rejected the findings of the many subsequently launched investigations that failed to find their claimed faults – and they hold these beliefs to this day.  For them, the Republicans remain guilty as alleged.

So yes, we have to let Team Trump and the other involved federal and state level investigative agencies complete the process to either sanitize the recent election, or declare that it was not soiled in the first place.  At that time we’ll all have to suck it up, bid good-bye to Donald Trump, and accept Joe Biden as our new fearless leader (while continuing to keep a gimlet eye on the sumbich until his influence peddling family affairs are resolved AND he renounces the emerging communist wing of the Democratic Party).

[15nov20 update]  Now we have a fairly complete recounting of the provenance of Hammer/Scorecard and how it came to be applied to the current election.  The testimony is "according to whistleblower Dennis Montgomery, who was granted immunity by the DoJ and the FBI for exposing illegal US domestic surveillance."  (H/T to reader and more here)

Comments

[robert cross]

In the category of "thank God these morons will be gone soon" -- Eric Trump tweeted this morning that Minnesotans need to "get out and vote." DUH!! the election was a week ago.

"The bottom line is that we are done as a liberal democracy once the people no longer believe in elections or that their legal votes matter."-- Only if you are stupid enough to believe all the bullshit lies and bogus conspiracy theories promulgated by trumlandia. All by design to do just that... cast doubt and promote trumpler's cockamamy excuses for why he lost. Perhaps if you people could tell the difference between fact and fiction it would help because there would be no controversy. Over 20,000 lies and you still buy into it hook, line, and sinker.... #SAD

[George Rebane]

See Exhibit A above.

[Gregory]

"On the whole, I'd rather be in Philadelphia."
W.C. Fields
(no, it isn't on his tomb)

rc 1040am, I agree completely. Perhaps this will keep Dems in Philly (and perhaps elsewhere) from getting their hands dirty in future elections... but only if they don't get away with it.

JoJo was interviewed yesterday, and said Trump should contest disputed contests in court. It is the American Way.

[Walt]

I love it when the Proggy press proves me right.
https://dailycaller.com/2020/11/10/new-york-time-kevin-roose-claims-four-accurate-articles-right-wing-misinformation/

"The New York Times’ technology columnist Kevin Roose suggested that four factual articles were “right-wing misinformation” after he learned they were performing well on Facebook."

[Steven Frisch]

Your side is going to have to provide some actual evidence of voter fraud instead os statistical analysis of why the patterns of voting in the new mail in ballot environment don't make sense to them. In short, file cases that show us the beef or STFU.

[Steven Frisch]

And another thing, Attorney General Barr did not, " order all US attorneys across the land to begin investigating these allegations."

What he did is authorize them to investigate allegations that are credible and could affect the outcome of the election. That means you have to come forward with clear and credible allegations, which to date, no one has done.

"While most allegations of purported election misconduct are of such a scale that they would not impact the outcome of an election and, thus, investigation can appropriately be deferred, that is not always the case," Barr wrote. "Such inquiries and reviews may be conducted if there are clear and apparently-credible allegations of irregularities that, if true, could potentially impact the outcome of a federal election in an individual State."

[Scott O]

Steve Frisch - "In short, file cases that show us the beef or STFU."
'STFU' - yep, standard fare from the left. Sooo tolerant and open to new ideas!
There's plenty of evidence out there, Steve. But as long as you keep simply denying it, then it doesn't exist in your brave new world.

[Steven Frisch]

Posted by: Scott O | 10 November 2020 at 12:17 PM

Payback is a bitch Scott. I heard enough of that here post 2016 so I feel just fine telling you to live with the outcome. There are literally zero allegations of voter fraud that would change the outcome of the election. The Trump team in now 14-0 in court as of today on these cases...

You may think there is plenty of evidence but if so why are you 14-0 so far?

[Scott O]

Steve F 12:23 - "...so I feel just fine telling you to live with the outcome."
Moving the goal posts just a tad, are we?
As I remember waaaaay back at 12:10, I was told to STFU.
I can live with ANY election outcome, Steve.
Not a problem for me like unlike you lefty-hysterics during the entire Trump presidency.
I would like a clean election with no BS.
What problem do you have with an investigation?
Might find something a bit amiss?
Hmmmmm?

[George Rebane]

Evidence? Given all the evidence cited above and rejected by the Left. Just denying it, without giving a reason that it is not evidence, does not cancel out the evidence - somewhere an attempt at reason and logic must enter the picture. I wonder if any of them could give us a short dissertation on their definition of credible evidence.

And then if we recall, the Left has been attacking what they continue to call an illegitimate election followed by an illegitimate presidency for four years without a shred of evidence produced from uncounted federal investigations.

[fish]

Posted by: Steven Frisch | 10 November 2020 at 12:23 PM

You may think there is plenty of evidence but if so why are you 14-0 so far?

You realize that 14 - 0 represents a perfect record don't you Steve?

[D]

Sorry George, Your own paper of record WSJ says Trump's International team found no evidence of systemic fraud. "no fraud", at least no VAAAST LEFT WING CONSPIRACY! Give it up.
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-biden-election-day-2020/card/XhlCZ4avYQb0jtdv7F3p

Fox News Anchor cuts Kaylee's mic after her BS statements.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-anchor-julie-banderas-shuts-down-trump-spokesman-tim-murtaugh-over-election-misinformation?utm_source=web_push

But keep doing what you do, bitterly clinging to any and all conspiracies.
Head to Parler.com and Gab for the latest imaginary news.

The left wing pundits are just as curious why the pro Biden polls were so far off.
One reason given is that blacks and latinos came out for Trump but the pollsters figured they would lean more to the left.
Mr. President, tear down that wall! HA HA HA

[D]

Oops, wrong Trump douchebag Fox shut down above,

https://deadline.com/2020/11/donald-trump-fox-news-neil-cavuto-joe-biden-1234611831/

[D]

The Fat Lady has sung but she was drowned out by the Wailing Fat Man in the Oval Office.

[George Rebane]

D 228pm - Not sure you understand the difference between a news report and expression of a newspaper's position. I know that lamestream outlets always marble the two so that the reader never knows the difference. Perhaps that's your problem.

Should you really want to contend what I have posted, you could easily cite the specific falsifications, instead of the BS you and yours bring to these pages and attempt to pass off as substantive refutations. Just saying it isn't so doesn't prove that it isn't so, you need more to make it an argument that can then in turn be refuted. Otherwise it's an exchange of 'yes it is', 'no it isn't', 'yes it is', ... ad nauseum.

But hey, if that's all you got. I can live with it.

[D]

Lots of evidence? Any evidence in the states where it counts? And how do you know the ballots That mysteriously showed up aren't part of a Republican ballot stuffing plot to be able to claim that the election was bogus?

"GOP Sen. Thom Tillis projected to win Senate race in North Carolina"!

This must also be a fraudulent victory.

[George Rebane]

re D 316pm - Hopeless.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/pennsylvania-100000-ballots-with-implausible-return-dates_3572942.html

[Steven Frisch]

I don't consider Falun Gong to be a valid source for US election information.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/24/technology/epoch-times-influence-falun-gong.html

Sounds like a lot of commie Chinese propaganda to me :)

[paul emery]

Looks like fake accusations

Republican efforts to keep President Donald Trump in office despite losing the 2020 presidential race ran into another issue with reality on Tuesday.

“Erie, Pa. USPS whistleblower completely RECANTED his allegations of a supervisor tampering with mail-in ballots after being questioned by investigators, according to IG,” the House Oversight Committee tweeted Tuesday, referring to the Inspector General.

“Here are the facts: Richard Hopkins is a USPS employee in Erie, Pa. He signed a sworn affidavit with allegations of ballot tampering/fraud and went public through Project Veritas. USPS IG began investigating last week,” the committee explained. “USPS IG investigators informed Committee staff today that they interviewed Hopkins on Friday, but that Hopkins RECANTED HIS ALLEGATIONS yesterday and did not explain why he signed a false affidavit.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/recanted-republicans-star-witness-alleging-voter-fraud-pennsylvania-disowns-his-accusations/

[George Rebane]

PaulE 354pm - Excellent Paul, now that's what I call a solid refutation of an alleged voter fraud. Maybe you can instruct SteveF and D how to do it ;-)

To make sure that all understand, I don't think any of the rightwingers here wanted Biden to win, neither did any of us want to have it proven that our national election was so fraudulent as to award offices to the losing candidates. Speaking for myself, if Biden won, I want it to be so demonstrated to one and all with no strings attached - I want him to win and serve legitimately. And I only bring up citations of fraud allegations that appear to me 1) plausible, 2) substantive, and 3) that can be refuted factually if false.

[Gregory]

Stevie and D refuse to look their gift horse in the mouth. No surprise there.

Punchy, I suspect with a signed and sworn affidavit to the contrary, he has some 'splaining to do.

[D]

Pennsylvania mystery ballots, Biden does not need Penn. to win.
Who did those mystery balloteers vote for?
Try again George.

[Bill Tozer]

Dr. Rebane @ 3:58 pm

I agree with some of Steve’s points, albeit not quite in the same way as presented.
First, Trump needs to prove his allegations. That is a high burden and some of the blatant hanky-panky must be proven beyond reasonable explanations, which may be unprovable after the fact. For instance, the US Supreme Court’s ordered PA to separate and set aside mail in ballots received after Election Day is worthless because the election workers had already thrown the late ballots into the mix and others simply refuse to honor the Court’s order. Or, to me charitable, did not get the memo. Must have had cotton in their ears of something. Even voting irregularities that defy the laws of statistical probabilities (those 450,000 ballots counted after hours) that went 99% for Biden) must be proven as fraud. Even a dummie like me knows that in the Castro District or in the bluest of blue deepest inner city precinct, 7% would vote for Trump, minimum. Much has been written of Trump pealing off record amounts of black and Latino votes and doubled his LBGQQQQ support from the gay communities. 99% ballots for Biden?? Odd to the max. Darn near impossible, IMHO.

The second point Steve made is election shenanigans, though criminal, must be to the extent to alter the outcome of the race. The news of a manager falsely filling out and forging ballots for 137 non functional folks in a facility for Decapacitated Mental patients don’t cut it. She is going to prison, but did not change the outcome.

So, it’s on Trump to find just ONE smoking gun example and the whole narrative changes. Just one big One.

One would think with all the pre-election Voter Fraud hype going on (including “stealing the election”) in the last two months leading up to Nov. 3, that every elections office and worker would bend over backwards to be transparent about what they were doing behind closed doors. One would think that all election workers and departments and spokespersons would have done everything they could to AVOID like the plague even the appearance of shady dealings. But, as predicted, it was not to be.

To be continued...

[q]

"“Erie, Pa. USPS whistleblower completely RECANTED his allegations of a supervisor tampering with mail-in ballots after being questioned by investigators, according to IG,” the House Oversight Committee tweeted Tuesday, referring to the Inspector General."

What do you call a recant recant?

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1326323334800437248

[Walt]

10,000 dead voters in Michigan in "Bring out ye dead" effort
MILE SQUARE EXCLUSIVE
Confirmed analysis: Michigan shows almost 10,000 deceased voters participate in the state's 2020 election!
http://www.hobokenhorse.com/2020/11/10000-dead-voters-confirmed-in-michigan.html

OAN Newsroom
UPDATED 12:45 PM PT – Tuesday, November 10, 2020
At least 10,000 deceased people were found to have voted in this year’s election in the state of Michigan.

According to state election data, about 9,500 people who voted this year were officially dead, while another 2,000 were 100-years-old or more. None of these voters were found to be alive through the Social Security Death Index.

Analysts from ‘Big Data Poll‘ said some of these people may have never existed, meaning Michigan Democrats possibly used phony ballots to boost Joe Biden in the election.

The 2020 Trump campaign is now pressing ahead with lawsuits to address voter fraud by Democrats.
https://www.oann.com/data-over-10k-dead-people-voted-in-mich-fraud-probe-underway/

All you need to do is look Stevie(wonder)

Like I said. The Proggy Press won't tell you.
And "by any means necessary" is fine with you.
Now why the f*ck" would a Proggy like you want a fair election if it gets rid of Trump...? Right Stevie?

[Bill Tozer]

The Trump PA lawsuit. Lawyers and us interested folks can read it for yourselves.

PENNSYLVANIA VOTER FRAUD: THE LAWSUIT

[Last paragraph(s) are the Bottomline for me.]

“The problem, of course, is that election fraud is easy to perpetrate and difficult, if not impossible, to remedy. The Democrats deliberately set up lax mail-in vote protocols that they knew would enable large numbers of fraudulent votes–residents who vote twice, out of state residents who vote, non-citizens who vote, dead people who vote, and so on. They also cheated in a variety of other ways, like contacting Biden voters to correct illegal ballots. But once those ballots have been tabulated, there is generally no way to identify the fraudulent ones. So it is likely that the 2020 presidential election has been stolen successfully.”

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/11/pennsylvania-voter-fraud-the-lawsuit.php

In other news, looks like Trump will win North Carolina and despite the big lie (hype to draw clicks?), the two Georgia Senate races will not be even close, IMHO. The NYT, Wa Compost, and other Fakenews outlets need a horse race narrative to keep their readers on the edge of their seats.

[Bill Tozer]

Punchy @ 3:54 pm.
Oh my, I just don’t know what to believe. The Wa Post and Democratic Rep. Maloney or my lying eyes.

‘Pennsylvania Mail Carrier Reportedly Recants Allegations On Ballot Tampering; UPDATE: Mail Carrier Rejects Report‘

“Later on Tuesday night, O’Keefe dropped video of Hopkins claiming he did not recant his allegations and would like a retraction from The Washington Post.”

“My name is Richard Hopkins, I am the postal employee who came out and whistle-blew on the Erie, PA, postal office,” he says in the video.

“I am, right at this very moment, looking at an article written by Washington Post. It says that I fabricated the allegations of ballot tampering,” Hopkins continued. “I am here to say I did not recant my statements. That did not happen. That’s not what happened. And you will find out, tomorrow.”
“And I would like that The Washington Post recant their wonderful little article that they decided to throw out there,” the postal worker added.

O’Keefe initially tweeted out the video, but later appeared to delete it. It is, however, still posted to the Project Veritas YouTube page.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/pennsylvania-mail-carrier-reportedly-recants-allegations-on-ballot-tampering-okeefe-responds

Small potatoes in the big picture, yet the unhinged claim it is Trump that is spreading distrust in our institutions. Nah, I would say that it is our institutions that is causing distrust in our institutions.

No sugar plum, the dress does not make your ass look fat. It’s your ass that makes your ass look fat. (Something no sane male would ever utter, despite the nation’s obesity crisis...and it is truly a crisis).

[George Rebane]

SteveF 354pm - You'd probably be surprised to hear that many of us in the country no longer consider the NYT to be a valid source for almost any information of import. But reports that can be independently verified still have value - it's the message and not the messenger. See also Mr Tozer's 508pm and 628pm in the Sandbox.

D 431pm - You miss the point again. It's Trump who need Pennsylvania and the rest of them to get over 270. Keep working.

[paul emery]

Bill

If you remember Trump claimed that over 3 million votes that went to Hillary were fake so he set up a commission to seek proof and guess what? They found nothing.

Just like this time, they will find nothing except a couple of anecdotal cases that may lead to couple of hundred votes at best. Remember he has to FLIP several states to change the election and that would involve thousands upon thousands of votes which would require a very sophisticated and organized effort that would extend over the states required to flip enough votes to change the outcome. Fat chance on that.

[Walt]

OK,,,
"Pennsylvania auditors alerted officials of possible dead people and duplicate registrations on the state’s voter rolls last year, but the warnings went unacknowledged.

In December 2019, Pennsylvania’s Department of Auditor General (DAG) released the findings of an audit report conducted January 1, 2016 to April 16, 2019 but was limited in scope because of “a lack of cooperation and a failure to provide the necessary information by” Pennyslvania’s Department of State, the Department of Transportation, and four county election offices."
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/10/pennsylvania-auditors-warned-of-dead-people-duplicates-on-state-voter-rolls/

And the LIBs hiding in the sewers know each and every one
of those.

[Don Bessee]

Looks like Iraq was not happy about the steal -

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/11/10/iraq-reacts-to-joe-biden-we-dont-want-obamas-policies/

;-)

[Walt]

Ahh HELL,, Emery,, The Proggy Press that your a member of ain't going to show this.
https://www.ntd.com/10000-dead-people-returned-mail-in-ballots-in-michigan-analysis-shows_526606.html
"More than 10,000 people confirmed or suspected dead have returned their mail-in ballots to vote in Michigan, according to an analysis of the state’s election data.

About 9,500 voters confirmed dead through the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) are marked in the state’s mail voting database as having returned their ballots. Another nearly 2,000 are 100 years old or more and are not listed as known living centenarians."

No wonder Biden wants to "put a cap" on this.

[Barry Pruett]

Y’all need to calm down. This count is going to take a month. Sit back. Drink a whiskey or three and relax. It will be what it is.

[George Rebane]

Walt 710pm - Add those to my 326pm, and pretty soon you can start seeing states flip.

[Walt]

"BRING OUT YE DEAD!!" They got Biden votes to cast!!
http://www.hobokenhorse.com/2020/11/10000-dead-voters-confirmed-in-michigan.html

Then of course the diligent Proggy Press will do damage control
and do their damndest to discredit anything that shows up.
The same ones that have been performing the Tijuana donkey show for the past four years.

[Walt]

DAMN!! Type pad has gone LIB with my comments!
Another one lost in digital space.

[paul emery]

Walt

Can you provide some documentation as to who Big Data Polling is? They are the ones you claim to be responsible for the information you claim leads to proof that there were 10,000 dead people who returned ballots in Michigan. Follow your own links and come up with some verification as to the extent of their research and investigation into the matter.

[paul emery]

We've been through this before with Trump lies about voter fraud. This is from 2016

"— -- President Donald Trump on Thursday signed an executive order to form a task force that will review alleged voter fraud, improper voter registrations and “election integrity” in the federal election system -- an issue that has long been a concern of the president, during the campaign and after.

Trump and the White House have reiterated the false assertion that millions of people illegally cast ballots in the 2016 presidential election -- a claim Trump first made just weeks after the election without presenting evidence.

In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 27, 2016"

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-checking-trumps-repeated-unsubstantiated-claim-widespread-voter/story?id=45021067

[Bill Tozer]

Walt @ 7:18 pm

It happened to me a couple times very recently. Both links “lost in Cyberspace” dealt with election fraud. I tried three times and finally cut it down to just the naked link (from the Federalist) and that too got lost in space. I figured you can read the articles, just not share them. No, I did not bother to tell the good doc. Must be some internal communications with the web sites and FB/Google/Big Tech because it is happening less frequently since the days after the election..

Get this: I googled Fox News on election night and the first link was to Wa Compost election coverage, lol. So, I got my other device where FOX News (and Rebanes Rumminations are set as favorites/bookmarks) and sure enough when I hit Fox News, the Wa Post link was the first to appear, lol. Well, not funny, but highly unusual. Like, in many years, never happened once before. Hmmm. Maybe they are watching us. “Yo Bill, you don’t want to go to Fox, you want to go to The Washington Compost for breaking results”.

No thanks, Big Bro, I prefer toilet paper to Wa Compost, thank you very much. And I don’t even follow Fox much anymore as I get Tucker’s show every night on my FB video app after the show ends. Same with podcasts and other segments of programs. A bit late, but the substance does not change.

Exit question: Can I prove some odd hanky panky was going on with my devises? No. Guess that means a tree fell in the forest and nobody heard it...so did it fall?

[paul emery]

Of course nothing was found.

"Here are nine investigations on voter fraud that found virtually nothing"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/01/25/here-are-nine-major-investigations-on-voter-fraud-that-found-virtually-nothing/

[Walt]

Oh wait! Maybe the links are acting like anything from the LIB RAG, SAC. BEE. Can't post anything.

Sorry Emery,, your going to have to do your OWN digging.
So get those boney-ass fingers to work.(for a change)

10,000 dead voters Emery. Start with that.

Biden ain't the "President elect" despite what the Proggy Press says. LIB media don't make the official call.
Now can you tell us who actually does? The votes been certified yet?

[Don Bessee]

Looks like they are sick of antifa. -

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/floridas-desantis-moves-to-allow-citizens-to-shoot-looters-rioters-targeting-businesses

;-)

[Walt]

Emery. Your side has done everything dirty and underhanded for the past four years to take down Trump, and you have the brass ones to think rigging the election like never before is something "they just would never stoop so low to do".
So many reports of ballot dirty tricks from coast to coast, and you just want to brush those aside.

There was one cowgirl on the highway today that sure showed her support for Trump. A nice big American flag waving at 70 MPH.,
Pink "I love Trump" stickers, bumper to bumper, on a jacked up 4x4. (then again it could have been a flaming gay guy.. Plenty like Trump too)

What next from your Neo Marxist party? Ban the American flag from view? Just like your war on statues?

[Walt]

DON!!!!! HALLELUJAH!!! That will get some traction!
Open season!!

[Bill Tozer]

Well, Punch, if no fraud can be found, then I can accept that. Just gotta wait for the process to be completed and the States individually certify the results.

There is nothing nefarious or wrong with Trump challenging the results through the legal process. It is any candidate’s right, or any campaign’s rights. It is all part of the process. Standard fare, so no reason for Trump to concede at the moment.

Gore tried 4 legal challenges, two with the FL Supreme Court and two with SCOTUS. I won’t mention Hillary publicly telling Joey Fingers to not concede under any circumstances. In 2018, Stacy Abrams refused to concede (even though she ended up 35,000 votes short in Georgia) and was lavished with praise by your media...not my media. To this day, Abrams claims she is the rightful Governor of Georgia.

The courts so far have told Trump to prove it or get out of here. Alito is chomping at the bit to rehear the PA case since it was a 4-4 decision with Amy not seated yet. Time will tell. It’s part of the process and vote counting is only one part of the election process.

Off topic a bit, but the memo circulated a few days ago that all media references to Creepy Joe MUST refer to the frail old guy as “President Elect Biden”. Must obey the memo. Not me. I did not receive the memo. NPR did and obeys.

I am old fashioned, a dinosaur that Lefties are waiting for us dinosaurs to die off cause we are hindering progress. Progress, as in progressive. I have weird ideas. I still believe, against the tide, that it is the States that call the elections, not partisan news media outlets. Like, that is crazy to do things by the book. I must live in Ozzie and Harriet times. Media calls the elections? Who came up with that load of horse shit?

[Walt]

Back at ya' Emery,, got proof is was a fair and just election with NO VOTER FRAUD? And NO,, not taking DNC owned fake media's word for it.

[Bill Tozer]

Opps. Link. And another Mea Culpa. I believe Stacy Abrams was 60,000 votes short, not 35,000. I am a lowly worm.

‘CBS Cranky Over Trump Not Conceding, Cheers Abrams for Same Thing’

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/scott-whitlock/2020/11/10/cbs-cranky-over-trump-not-conceding-cheers-abrams-same-thing
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‘CNN Suddenly Thinks It's Important to Accept Election Results’

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/joseph-norris/2020/11/10/cnn-suddenly-thinks-its-important-accept-election-results
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‘Lib Tech Journo Mad Conservatives Can Question Election on Facebook’

“A liberal tech writer has blasted Facebook for allowing conservatives to ask honest questions about the controversial 2020 election. He also lamented that Facebook has allowed conservative posts to become wildly popular.”

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/techwatch/alexander-hall/2020/11/10/lib-tech-journo-mad-conservatives-can-question-election
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Ah, just pick a card, any card.

https://www.newsbusters.org/

[paul emery]

walt writes:

"10,000 dead voters Emery. Start with that."

Find verifiable documentation Walt from a credible source that conducted a thorough investigation. Not Big Data Polling. No credibility for them

[Gregory]

Punchy, that's not Walt's job. Not my job, not BT's job.

10,000 dead voters has been alleged. Either it will be a credible source or it won't... and it won't be to criminal investigation standards. That takes time. More than the one month left to certify elections.

This is to political standards. What it would ta convince a bunch of Republican legislators that it stank to high heaven.

[Bill Tozer]

Lol. 9:17 pm speaking of credibility? Beam me up, Scottie. I must be on the wrong planet.
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Quotes and a meme or two from Year Zero. Maybe 3 memes in these exciting times.

For the record: “All the data points to a few things. Trump’s policies are broadly popular. The nation just ensured a Republican Senate can block President Biden. The nation rewarded Republicans who would advance the President’s agenda down to the state level. The President himself was a flawed and undisciplined messenger for his message, and the nation rejected him. Likewise, the nation rejected the progressive agenda that many Democrats want Biden to pursue.” —Erick Erickson

The bottom line: “There are a thousand pitfalls he could have avoided if he weren’t so self-involved and undisciplined. No single one of them made the difference, but cumulatively they blighted his presidency and made him radioactive in the suburbs. No one should want to repeat them, and the party should never again get behind such a flawed personal figure. Nevertheless, Trump points to a viable GOP future even if he comes up short. He posted startling gains among Latino voters. This shows it’s possible to imagine a working-class-oriented Republican Party that isn’t a demographic dead end, but genuinely crosses racial lines, even if this potential is still inchoate.” —Rich Lowry

Observations: “Perhaps it was inevitable that Donald Trump’s re-election campaign would end as his Presidency began: with the President claiming victory and his frenzied antagonists denouncing him as a would-be fascist.” —The Wall Street Journal

Exactly: “After enduring four years of corporate media and congressional Democrats peddling lies, half-truths, and false narratives, Donald Trump voters will never believe a Joe Biden victory was lawfully achieved.” —Margot Cleveland

Tongue-in-cheek: “If there is anything we can learn from this phenomenal run of good luck for Biden, it’s that there is no meritocracy in politics. So, never give up on that unearned confidence, no matter how often history proves you wrong. Never let your risible knowledge of the world or decades of blunders stop you from chasing that dream. Just keep cynically repositioning yourself. Keep saying things emphatically — it doesn’t matter what. And with a lot of luck, you, too, might become president someday.” —David Harsanyi

Non compos mentis: “I think Joe Biden has a big mandate. A bigger mandate than John F. Kennedy when I was in school.” —House Speaker Nancy Pelosi

Grand delusions: “The voters have spoken, and they have chosen @JoeBiden and @KamalaHarris to be our next president and vice president. It’s a history-making ticket, a repudiation of Trump, and a new page for America. Thank you to everyone who helped make this happen.” —Hillary Clinton

Epic blunder: “Now we take Georgia and then we change America.” —Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer getting out the Republican vote in the Peach State

Partisan hack: “I’m going to be spending my next couple of months doing everything that I can to extend help and offer support to the work of fantastic leaders that we just heard from, like Stacey Abrams, to make sure that we don’t have a Republican Senate majority, that we win these races in Georgia, that we secure a Democratic Senate majority, so that we don’t have to negotiate.” —Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Trump Derangement Syndrome, Part I: “[Trump voters] have revealed themselves for the racists that they are, the tribalists that they are. … It’s almost a level of fanaticism that I’ve only seen in cult groups and Middle East terrorist groups.” —MSNBC contributor Malcolm Nance to Bill Maher

TDS, Part II: “F—k Donald Tromp [sic] and every American citizen, celebrity, white woman, black man, ETC who supported him burnnnnnnnnnn.” —Janelle Monáe

TDS, Part III: “Kind of terribly sad how close this election was. After this year and especially this summer it should’ve been a landslide. I don’t get it. Truly.” —Demi Lovato

TDS, Part IV: “The closeness of this election is showing just how many decided racism is ‘not a big deal.’” —Wesley Snipes

TDS, Part V: “Let’s remember that tens of millions of people voted for the status quo, even when it meant supporting lies, hate, chaos, and division. We’ve got a lot of work to do to reach out to these folks in the years ahead and connect with them on what unites us.” —Michelle Obama

And last… “Very excited to hear about unity from Joe Biden, the leader of the same party in which major figures now call for complete political acquiescence on penalty of being placed on an enemies list.” —Ben Shapiro
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https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/10157823678120914

https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/10157826243900914/

https://www.facebook.com/PatriotPost/photos/10157826242750914/

BTW, it is the Marine Corps birthday today. From the balls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli.

[Walt]

Where is Emery's PROOF of no voter fraud?
There is, till YOU prove there isn't.

You want "trust"? right after it's "verified".

[Bill Tozer]

Re: Gregory’s 9:37 pm
“Punchy, that's not Walt's job. Not my job, not BT's job”
————-
“HARRINGTON: I would love if you guys would start doing that digging and start doing that verification.

AMANPOUR: Now, we’re not going to do your work for you. I want to ask you a question —

HARRINGTON: That’s a journalist’s job!

AMANPOUR: —contrary to what —

HARRINGTON: It’s a journalist’s job to find out if this is verified!”

Play close attention to Amanpour’s statement: “We’re not going to do your work for you.”

Whether she intended to or not, she managed to perfectly encapsulate the corrupt state of the Fourth Estate.” .......

“According to Amanpour, for the mainstream media to spend time investigating a Democrat for wrongdoing amounts to a violation of journalistic standards. It is “doing Republicans’ work for them.” She just admitted that she believes a journalist’s job is to do the Democrats’ bidding.

The fact that Amanpour felt comfortable saying this on the air — and that no journalist or news outlet has criticized her for doing so — shows just how deeply embedded this sentiment is among journalists.

Once you understand that, you will understand everything about how the press covers the news these days.“

https://issuesinsights.com/2020/10/26/christiane-amanpour-gives-the-game-away-on-media-blackout-of-biden-scandal/

[Bill Tozer]

11:30 pm continued

Fair and balanced? Yup, Fox News got the memo as well. No talk about George Soros! A curse on both your houses.

https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1306269786469552128

[Steven Frisch]

Posted by: Walt | 10 November 2020 at 10:10 PM

"Where is Emery's PROOF of no voter fraud?
There is, till YOU prove there isn't."

Seriously Walt, you are like a living breathing logical fallacy.

[D]

Bill Tozer | 10 November 2020 at 11:30 PM

What are journalists going to find that Inspector Rudy Clouseaou didn't find?1

[D]

Steve, Walt has been trying out his dog's frisbee as a thinking cap for a while now.

[Barry Pruett]

There is plenty of evidence of fraud out there in these states. The question will be for a judge or the state legislatures is whether the evidence is credible and whether it is sufficient to show the election should not be certified because we can’t know who actually won.

[D]

Trumpers will risk national security in order to mess with Biden,

"The Impact of the 9/11 Commission on Current Presidential Transition Planning"

https://presidentialtransition.org/blog/9-11-commission-on-transition-planning/

[Bill Tozer]

“Trumpers will risk national security.....”

Trumpsters WILL risk blah, blah, blah. That’s exactly what I heard when the Russian Hoax started. The Lefties are the masters of projection. Just cause you say it, then it must be true! Such confidence in ones judgement is astonishing. National security? Like being in the pocket of China and subject to blackmail from China? Oh my.

[Bill Tozer]

Barry @ 5:24. am
“There is plenty of evidence of fraud out there in these states. The question will be for a judge or the state legislatures is whether the evidence is credible and whether it is sufficient to show the election should not be certified because we can’t know who actually won.”

Well put. Your lawyerly mind nailed it. There is a big difference between evidence and proof,
something Punchy and other popinjays confuse. They put the cart before the horse. First evidence, then proof or no proof.

A surprisingly delightfully excellent and timely article of the topic. Gives me hope for the future of journalism. Never head of the writer, but a bloom in a barren desert.. Evidence and Proof:

‘America Won’t Trust Elections Until The Voter Fraud Is Investigated‘
If all the evidence of voter fraud is not investigated and properly accounted for, half of America will fervently believe that the election is a fraud no matter who ultimately wins

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/08/america-wont-trust-elections-until-the-voter-fraud-is-investigated/

[Bill Tozer]

Always a silver lining.

‘White Male Democrat Concedes To GOP Female Immigrant In California House Race‘

“Michelle Steel, a GOP woman, won her place in the House of Representatives for California’s 48th District on Tuesday after her Democratic opponent, Rep. Harley Rouda, conceded.

While the race was close with 95 percent of precincts reporting, Steel was steadily pulling ahead with 50.9 percent of the vote, while reports showed Rouda at 49.1 percent.

Steel’s victory in the district flipped the seat, which Cook Political Report projected as “lean Democrat,” turning the congressional area encompassing part of Orange County back to red.

Rouda, the district’s current representative, first came into leadership in 2018, replacing Republican Dana Rohrabacher, who was “the longest-serving House incumbent to lose re-election in 2018.”

In 2019, the recently-resigned DCCC Chairwoman Cheri Bustos labeled Rouda a “frontline program member,” signaling that Rouda’s seat was necessary for the Democrats to keep control of the House.

“Our Majority hinges on these Members from tough seats winning reelection in 2020, and with today’s announcement we’re sending a clear message that the DCCC will stand shoulder to shoulder with them in the fight ahead,” she said in a statement.

Steel, the Republican chairwoman of the Orange County Board of Supervisors, adds to the historic number of Republican women who won seats in the House of Representatives this year.”

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/10/white-male-democrat-concedes-to-gop-female-immigrant-in-california-house-race/

Why is that, Don? :)
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In related news....

.Illinois Democrat Rep. Cheri Bustos stepped down as the House Democrats’ campaign chief Monday after disappointing losses for the majority caucus setting up Republicans to take back the majority in 2022.

“I want you to know that I will not seek another term as the Chair of the DCCC,” Bustos wrote in a letter to colleagues Friday obtained by Politico. “Instead, I will focus my efforts legislatively to help President-elect Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris as we Build Back Better For the People.”

Bustos, a freshman representative who just barely retained her seat in the House this year, is resigning her role as head of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) after Republicans unexpectedly flipped eight seats for a net gain of five so far, chipping into House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s majority. Republicans are on track to possibly flip several more once all remaining votes are counted, a far different result from the sizable gains Bustos and other top Democrats were publicly expecting.

According to Politico, Bustos wrote that she was “gutted at the losses we sustained,” and pledged “a transparent after-action-review to better understand why the national polling and modeling environment failed to materialize.”

[Walt]

Any bets they are ALL for Biden?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/more-than-180-boxes-of-uncounted-ballots-found-in-puerto-rico-after-election-report

[Walt]

Bill. That should get Emery to show up at his nearest dive bar.
Another LIB seat in Ca. goes RED. Now how the "F" did that happen in Calif.? Communism is supposed to be wonderful.

[Bill Tozer]

Walt @ 8:27 am
Yep.
Kinda hoping that with uncontrolled TDS out there, the Neo-Leninists media complex would take their eyes off the ball. It was more expecting than even hoping ad it was happening before our eyes and they were blinded by TDS. Hate blinds a man, pride imprisons him. Same with women, if the antiquated noun ‘man’ offends one’s sensibilities.

The more discrimination proposition to level the outcome failed to pass (affirmation action quotas on steroids), the Gig law was rejected, along with rent control and another I forget. How easily they forget. :).

To be honest, there is a slew of articles I have not bothered to read yet. I blame the current back pain and recovery process....or maybe not. :). Anyway, right after election night, Ben Shapiro said “Wokism is the Biggest Loser.” The squeaky wheel did not get the grease...for once. And with flipping 2 statehouses just in time for redistricting, we have been saved from irrelevancy....i g, the dreaded dustbin of history. Left out in the wasteland hanging on the tree of woe.

Yep, TDS worked in our favor, all in all. It really smoked them out, those naked creatures with their asses flapping in the wind. Exposed. AOC is very angry, says time to take the gloves off with Republicans. Can you say, “Triggered”? Good, I knew you could.
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‘Republican Incumbent Wins Alaska Senate Race, Clenching 50 Senate Seats For GOP’
Republican incumbent Sen. Dan Sullivan won re-election for his Alaska U.S. Senate seat on Wednesday, beating out independent challenger Al Gross, who gained the support of Democrats
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‘Pink News Erases Ric Grenell As First Openly Gay Person To Hold Cabinet-Level Position’

Pink News, a left-wing LGBT website, is rewriting history. On Monday, the online newspaper memory-holed former Director of National Intelligence Ric Grenell’s role in the Trump administration as the first openly gay Cabinet-level member in the White House.

“Joe Biden ‘almost certain’ to make Pete Buttigieg America’s first out gay cabinet official,” the outlet proudly headlined a piece promoting its golden-boy former presidential candidate...
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Georgia orders recount...by hand. Oh my.

[L]

Georgia recount was automatic, based on closeness. Pa can be flipped by SCOTUS doing what John Roberts failed to do a couple of weeks ago- find the changed voting rules unconstitutional because they were imposed by a partisan, elected Dem Supreme Court when only the legislature is deemed to have such powers.

That leaves Michigan where the most obvious fraud took place. The Dominion balloting software is highly vulnerable, particularly considering the relation to Nancy and DiFi. A managable situation, I think...

[L]

As far as Gov DeSantis, bravo! What the left thinkers here don't get is that shooting looters has been the traditional solution because such mass lawlessness threatens to overwhelm law enforcement which is exactly why riots are the chosen cover.

Not only do looters deserve it, it will only take a couple of dead/grievously wounded perps before they decide the game ain't worth the candle. That's what's called deterrence Paul, Rx and Steve.

[Gregory]

Pete Buttigieg's father, Joseph, was the founder of the Gramsci Society and was the translator (into English) of Gramsci's "Prison Diaries". Comrade Gramsci was in the communist inner circle with Trotsky and Lenin, and if "Mayor Pete" is ever nominated to a cabinet post, I'd expect him to be grilled on his relationship to his father's ideals.

It is very possible that had Gramsci not been sickly, he'd have met Trotsky's fate.

[Gregory]

Pete Buttigieg's father, Joseph, was the founder of the Gramsci Society and was the translator (into English) of Gramsci's "Prison Diaries". Comrade Gramsci was in the communist inner circle with Trotsky and Lenin, and if "Mayor Pete" is ever nominated to a cabinet post, I'd expect him to be grilled on his relationship to his father's ideals.

It is very possible that had Gramsci not been sickly, he'd have met Trotsky's fate.

[Gregory]

sorry bout the doubling...

[D]

Gregory, doing what he can to equate Dems with Socialism/Communism

[L]

Want to know who really won? Let's have Trafalgar, and any other polls who were closest to the actual result, go back using the same methodology and ask the voters who they votED for.

Absolutely no one has a motive to lie under the circumstances nor to dodge the question. We'll find out real damn fast if fraud was in play or not...

[Bill Tozer]

Until the fat lady sings....

‘The Blue Trickle’

“Democrats were so certain they were riding the tide of history in this election that they didn’t pause to take note of their agenda's unpopularity”.....

“Biden clearly owes his victory (which President Donald Trump, of course, is still contesting) in large part to Trump’s personal unpopularity. In races where the president wasn’t on the ballot, in contrast, the weakness of the Democratic Party stood exposed and it paid the price.

“If the former vice president succeeded in making the presidential race a referendum on Trump, Republicans succeeded in making House races, in effect, a referendum on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the woke socialism that animates Democratic activists and draws so much attention. (Nancy Pelosi posed for a cover of Rolling Stone with members of the Squad, and Ocasio-Cortez is on the cover of the latest issue of Vanity Fair.)”......

“It is always a danger for a political party to believe its own PR. That’s a risk especially hard for Democrats to avoid when practically every instrument of the culture celebrates left-wing causes and works to create the sense that their triumph is inexorable.

This year, Democrats thought they were marching from strength to strength, when they were really on thin ice with an electorate that was prepared to reject Trump, but not to empower a party that has elevated socialists and outlandish ideas from defunding the police to the Green New Deal.”

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/11/the-blue-trickle/?

[Bill Tozer]

Back to voter fraud.

‘Why Twitter Won’t Let People Share Sworn Court Documents Alleging Voter Fraud’
Social media does not get to determine the veracity of a sworn affidavit any more than corporate media gets to determine who won an election

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/11/why-twitter-wont-let-people-share-sworn-court-documents-alleging-voter-fraud/
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‘Detroit Poll Challenger Witnessed Election Workers Counting Ballots For ‘Non-eligible’ Voters, Then Kicked Out For Noticing

An affidavit from a Republican poll challenger in Detroit, Michigan confirms there may be voter fraud in the state.

“Former Michigan Assistant Attorney General Zachary Larsen testified that at the convention center in downtown Detroit, election officials appeared to be processing a “majority” of mail-in ballots from ineligible voters that were not listed in the poll book of eligible voters, nor Larsen’s scanned list. Larsen confirmed in the affidavit that he had heard similar reports from other concerned poll challengers as well.”

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/09/detroit-poll-challenger-witnessed-election-workers-counting-ballots-for-non-eligible-voters/
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‘I Was In Philadelphia Watching Fraud Happen. Here’s How It Went Down’
At issue was President Trump’s request for an order changing the way Pennsylvania absentee and mail-in ballots are being reviewed at the Philadelphia Convention Center.

“Legacy media are lying when they claim that all of President Trump’s allegations of voter fraud are baseless. I know, because I argued a case on the president’s behalf in federal court in Philadelphia”

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/10/i-was-in-philadelphia-watching-fraud-happen-heres-how-it-went-down/

And the evidence begins to accumulate. “Stop the counting! Call it a day! Goodnight everybody. Time to lock er up. Lights out.” Then, when the Republican eyes are gone, resume counting at 3 am. The magic hour. Gee, look what happened in the dead of night. Amazing. To be continued.

[D]

YooHoo, fat lady, time to break into song,

"Postal worker recants false fraud claims cited by Trump campaign, top Republicans"

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/postal-worker-recants-claims-fraud-024203321.html

[Scott O]

12:26 - Duh needs to read the article. There is no quote or actual recanting from this individual.
In fact, the only statement attributed to him is that he did not recant.
This is only only one of many instances of an election that is filled with problems that lead to Americans distrusting their govt's ability to provide a clean election.
It doesn't matter who wins - we have to have open and fair elections.

[q]

"Postal worker recants false fraud claims cited by Trump campaign, top Republicans"

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1326323334800437248

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1326626901927079942

[Gregory]

"D" 1126am

You can't read?

I stated a fact, that Pete Buttigieg's dad was the translator of Gramsci's "Prison Diaries" and has been silent on Gramsci. I'd like to hear where he differs from Gramsci's teachings. And his father's teachings, as his father was a college professor, along with being the presidend and founder of the International Gramsci Society.

[fish]

Posted by: D | 11 November 2020 at 11:26 AM

Gregory, doing what he can to equate Dems with Socialism/Communism

Yeah....he should leave that to the professionals....the "democrats" claiming that they are socialists/communists.

[Bill Tozet]

Good Nov 11 update, Dr. Rebane.
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Morning chuckle: short and sweet.

COCAINE MITCH SLAYS

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/11/cocaine-mitch-slays.php

[Walt]

Well Douchey,, they don't call themselves the Democrat Socialist party for nothing.

When the Left made "Democrat" a dirty word, the changed it to "Liberal". When they made that equal to being septic tank filler, they then become the "Progressive". Now that they have turned that into an eternal dumpster fire, the come out and say who they really are. Socialist.. Just a "kinder and gentler"
Communist scum. The new scrotum massagers for Russia and China.

You can bet shit will fly again in the Middle East. The terrorists just may have their pal Joe. back.
Biden is no friend to Israel. Hamas is already starting to grow their balls back.

[Steven Frisch]

Posted by: Walt | 11 November 2020 at 08:24 AM

Walt you do realize that as a territory Puerto Rico does not have any electoral votes and does not vote for President of the United States right? I am sure you do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_voting_rights_in_Puerto_Rico#:~:text=Residents%20of%20Puerto%20Rico%20and,to%20electoral%20votes%20for%20president.&text=Like%20other%20territories%2C%20Puerto%20Rico,in%20the%20presidential%20primary%20process.

[Steven Frisch]

Posted by: Gregory | 11 November 2020 at 11:01 AM

Yes, because there is something inherently suspicious about a professor of literature at the University of Notre Dame writing a book about Gramsci, everyone knows that if you study something you support all of its precepts, just ask William L. Shirer or Hannah Arendt, and everyone knows that children are always responsible for the perceived sins of their fathers.

[Gregory]

Nice one, Steven. J. Buttigieg was a promoter of postmodern critical theory, not a journalist like Shirer.

I've listened to Buttigieg the elder speaking, he was obviously a believer of and in Gramsci, and was president of the society he founded until he died a year ago.

[George Rebane]

According to our leftwing contingent, I wonder how far Barack Hussein Obama's apple fell from his progenitors' tree. No one has seen Obama's or Buttigieg's credo.

[Gregory]

Twenty five years ago I asked a member of Terry McAteer's staff where McAteer's "Acadamy Of Learning" differed from what was known as "Outcome Based Education", and I'd love to hear Mayor Pete's answer to where his personal philosophy differed from his father's and Gramsci's views.

Asked that way, McAteer's minion had to answer that there was no difference. It was "Outcome Based Education" but they'd learned not to use that term. Mayor Pete would be much more glib, no doubt.

[Todd Juvinall]

Operation Hammer and Scorecard.

[Bill Tozer]

So, that is what Gregory was talking about. Lets have some fun and play make-believe. No harm in running the numbers.

'A Reelection Path Like No Other'
Pennsylvania is the primary focus, but another route to victory would be far more fitting, and far more fun

"232 [NC and Alaska] then, a flip of three states with razor-thin margins — Wisconsin (10), Arizona (11), and Georgia (16) — would put the president at 269 electoral votes … a splendiferous tie with the media’s “President-elect” Joe Biden.

We say splendiferous because a 269-269 tie would go to President Trump. How? Our constitutional system says that in the event of an electoral tie, the House of Representatives picks the president and the Senate picks the veep.

But Andrews, you knucklehead, the House is firmly in Democrat hands!

And indeed it is. But the House doesn’t get to cast its decisive votes by individual member. Instead, it must cast them by state delegation — one vote per glorious state. So California’s 40-something Democrats will carry the exact same voting weight as Wyoming’s one Republican rep, and New York’s 20-something the same as Montana’s one. And given that the GOP controlled more state delegations going into last Tuesday’s election, and given that they didn’t lose a single House seat, it’s safe to say that the Republicans still have the numbers to return President Trump for a second term.

All Rudy needs to do is make the fraud case in Wisconsin, Arizona, and Georgia. And all we need to do is stock up on beer, brats, burgers, and plywood paneling.

Like we said, splendiferous.

The bottom line? The Trump team may or may not be able to change this electoral outcome, but for the sake of future elections, EVERY instance of fraud in this election, particularly the Democrats’ massive bulk-mail-ballot fraud, must be exposed now. If not, those fraudulent methods WILL become their standard for stealing elections in 2022 and beyond."

https://patriotpost.us/articles/74811-a-reelection-path-like-no-other-2020-11-11

[Walt]

That's the idea Stevie, Make excuses. "Their votes don't mean 💩" So who cares if fraud is involved.

So we can put you down as for being in the "voter fraud is just fine" camp. "if it gets rid of Trump,, good to go".

"Free and fair" elections means to a LIB,, "free to rig".

[Don Bessee]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/11/poll-less-than-half-of-america-believes-joe-biden-won-the-election/

;-)

[Bill Tozer]

Looks like we are headed for a showdown at the OK Corral.

Remember many moons ago when all the Lefties were running with the story that Trump really really really did not want to be President...and the oft repeated story that the R's will make him resign in 60 days because none of the Pubs would support him?

I would say that for someone who doesn't want to be President, The Donald is fighting like ole Mike Tyson, running around and ripping people's faces off with his teeth, just like the animal he is. Unique fellow.

Trump is probably trashing the WH furniture right now. One of a kind, fa sure.

A quote by Peyton Manning after his last game (Superbowl) always stuck with me: Its not about winning, its about refusing to lose.

[Walt]

LOL!! Proggy voters think they are OWED something?
I don't recall ANY repub group hitting up Trump for a "you OWE us".
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/blm-co-founder-to-biden-we-want-something-for-our-vote

[Walt]

It sure would be riot to see,, a sea of pro Trump signs at Biden's coronation. Well,, Biden will only be there for a week or two before the Proggys invoke the 25TH and send him to the old folks home with tall fences.

[Walt]

Here is a poll for Emery,, swing on this one for a while.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/11/poll-less-than-half-of-america-believes-joe-biden-won-the-election/

"Less than half of the American people believe Joe Biden (D) won the presidential election, according to a Tuesday survey from Just the News Daily and independent pollster Scott Rasmussen."

In other words,, most of America has called "BULLSHIT".

[Gregory]

Little Stevie Frisch... had enough?

[Gregory]

Votes don't actually need to be changed from Biden to Trump by legal action... they only need to keep enough states from certifying their elections to keep Biden or Trump from reaching 270 in the Electoral College. Then it goes to the House for President, the Senate for VP.

And Wyoming gets the same 1 vote that California does in each chamber. Alaska and NY... equal.

I think I got that right. Steve?

[Gregory]

IF the mail in ballot results in the whole thing going to the House... wanna bet there will be a wave coast to coast of states deciding that a day of election poll with paper ballots and ID is the way to go?

[rob't X]

Speaking of FRAUD: If you donate to trump's “Official Election Defense Fund” 60% goes to Trump’s Save America PAC, 40 % goes to the RNC - and NOTHING would go to his election defense fund.....UNLESS you donate $8,000 or more.
Then the money goes to the “recount account” established to finance election challenges, including recounts and lawsuits over alleged improprieties, the fundraising disclosures show. this according to Reuter's.

“The Left will try to STEAL this election!” the promotions say..what they don't say is that, true to form, "Trump will try and steal your money."

Question: What is the over/under on how much of the cash donated by people like you to the “Official Election Defense Fund” goes directly onto trump's pocket?

[Scott O]

rx 5:21 - "Speaking of FRAUD:..."
Since you are aware of the details and have no evidence or proof of any disposal of the money contrary to those details it follows that there is no fraud.
Question: how much kiddie porn does rob't X watch a day?
See how that works rob'y?

[Walt]

AWwwww.. LOOK! Lil' Bob is trying a new TROLL name.

The money still goes to keeping us people free. Unlike you Proggys sending money to enslave everyone. Including you.
Whining that,, "I'm on your side" ain't going to work.
Just ask the "freedom fighters" of Cuba. it only worked out GREAT for Castro and his close pals... Think about that you stupid Commie butt greaser.