Sandbox - 18dec20

[So now the C19 vaccines are arriving in backwoods counties like ours.  Does anyone know of a list or policy that prioritizes who should get the vaccine and when (and where)?  The news about its distribution stops with vague references to healthcare workers and old folks in care facilities being somewhere near the top of the list.  gjr]

Comments

[D]

The Trump Whisperer,

https://twitter.com/Stop_Trump20/status/1340008790519926784?s=20

[D]

Dominion and Smartmatic need to sue Sidney Powell, Guiliani et Al. for defamation, slander, libel.

[Walt]

Maybe Douchey can explain why Biden can't get a security clearance.
Maybe because he's beholden to CHINA?????

[D]

WalDoH!™ link please, and Parler doesn't count.

Maybe because Trump's plant, Chris Miller, is playing political games.

[L]

Keach @ 11:40- Yeah, and John Wilkes Booth should have sued the Ford Theater for his broken leg...

[Walt]

Do your own homework. Your not Emery. D-Bag.

Ouch... Though to be Calif. today.
https://dailycaller.com/2020/12/18/us-supreme-court-illegal-immigrant-census/

"The court ruled 6-3 against a lawsuit attempting to block Trump’s plan to exclude illegal immigrants from the count, Reuters reported."

Douchey... That means illegals don't count for electioneering districts.. Got it? Good... We know you have the attention span of a chigger.

[paul emery]

AS if Trump doesn't have enough scandals. Now this:

EXCLUSIVE: Jared Kushner helped create a Trump campaign shell company that secretly paid the president's family members and spent $617 million in reelection cash, a source tells Insider

https://www.businessinsider.com/jared-kushner-trump-campaign-shell-company-family-ammc-lara-2020-12

[D]

Name's not Keach, Lar; and your ridiculous response is a non sequitur.

[Bill Tozer]

“........ , a source tells Insider”

Which is why I Shall Not waste opening that link—a source tells Insider

[Walt]

So what Paul? Many a LIB has been found to do the same thing.
Mad MAX Waters, The Muslim chick from MN. and AOC. Just to name a few.
You didn't take issue with THEM.
Gotta love your selective whining.

[Walt]

Of COURSE,,, Emery will have no problem with THIS.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/18/report-mark-zuckerbergs-419-million-non-profit-contributions-improperly-influenced-2020-presidential-election/

What's a little skirting of campaign donations laws to help a fellow Proggy??? HummmMMM????

[Bill Tozer]

Notable quotables from Mike Rowe, Dick Durbin, Ilhan Omar, and more.

Upright: “There’s a new word for 40 million people in this country: Non-essential. And it’s crazy. … During this pandemic, I've seen firsthand that everybody is essential to somebody, even if you’re just working to pay your own bills. So something is going on here that is fundamentally upside-down. And the fact that these policies are now being instituted by leaders who have shown themselves to be the very definition of rank hypocrisy is, I’m afraid, going to lead us into a place where it’s going to be very difficult to get the poop back in the goose.” —Mike Rowe

A blind squirrel finds a nut: “The Warp Speed project appears to be a dramatic success. I pray that it will be. Although I’ve been a frequent critic of this administration, I want to give them credit for organizing this effectively, and delivering a vaccine in a timely way, almost amazing timely way in this pandemic that we face.” —Senator Dick Durbin

A forewarning: “Let me be clear: I need Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff in the United States Senate to get this done.” —Joe Biden in a new Georgia ad

Demo-gogue: “We have great confidence in our son. I’m not concerned about any accusations that have been made against him. It’s used to get to me. I think it’s kind of foul play, but look, it is what it is.” —Joe Biden

The BIG Lie: “My father and over 300,000 people have lost their lives because of dangerous criminal neglect by Trump and his administration. I agree … that it is not enough for us just to issue subpoenas. We have to investigate and prosecute these people who are responsible for these reckless deaths.” —Rep. Ilhan Omar

Non compos mentis: “It’s not, ‘You should wear a mask.’ It should be mandated to wear a mask.” —CNN’s Don Lemon (“Don Lemon himself does not need a mask since he usually has his foot in his mouth.” —Keith Koffler)

And last… “To be fair, Pete Buttigieg is not unqualified to be Transportation Secretary. Anyone is qualified, because the truth is, being a bureaucrat takes very little knowledge or skill.” —Allie Beth Stuckey

[Walt]

OH... LIBS get butthurt TOO when they lose an election.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/potential-house-vote-overturn-iowa-election-results-could-spell-trouble-another-iowan

Remember? its "50,+1... And now wants to overturn her lose?
"
Democrat Rita Hart said she'll petition the U.S. House of Representatives to ultimately decide who won her congressional contest against Republican Mariannette Miller-Meeks in Iowa's 2nd Congressional District. It was the closest House race in the nation, with Iowa certifying Miller-Meeks as the winner with a margin of just six votes."

So let's see what the queen of the DAMNED does. She needs every win she can get.

[L]

Keach @ 1:15- A joke, ask someone to explain it to you.

[D]

Sorry Lar, no posts at 1:15

[D]

Huge hack of Solar Winds, but crickets are loud here,

https://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-head-calls-solarwinds-hack-act-of-recklessness-what-you-need-to-know/

[Walt]

See? Crickets when a LIB is whining about losing, and wanting her lose nullified.

[Walt]

Try,, and fail. Dirty tricks by LIBs again.
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/12/18/report-democrats-trying-sneak-waiver-retired-general-serve-defense-secretary-spending-bill/

[Gregory]

"D" 116pm

Your name is also obviously not "D", so anyone can call you what they want.

I think Keach fits you fine.

[Walt]

Gregory.. I'm of the rule, you can't defame a TROLL.
In other news.. Nevada City has a snitch!
"5:43 p.m. — A caller from North Pine Street reported a restaurant was seating customers outside."

[Gregory]

GR concerning your Q regarding the vaccine staging, who gets it when...

I gather there's a big pow-wow this weekend where they'll decide who gets stuck in phase 1b, 2a, 2b, etc.

[George Rebane]

Gregory 447pm - Thanks Greg, please keep us informed as this develops.

[Bill Tozer]

New Strzok Texts Show FBI Was Investigating Trump Before Crossfire Hurricane Was Opened

“Newly declassified text messages from former FBI agent Peter Strzok suggest that the FBI began investigating then-presidential candidate Donald Trump and his campaign before the Crossfire Hurricane investigation was opened.

While the FBI claims that investigations into Trump’s campaign began with the opening of Crossfire Hurricane on July 31, 2016, communications between Strzok and his alleged mistress, FBI special counsel Lisa Page, show that the agent asked Page to discuss “[o]ur open C[counter-]I[ntelligence] investigations relating to Trump’s Russian connections” with him on July 28, 2016”

Former FBI Director James Comey denied knowledge of any investigation until “sometime towards the end of September 2016.”

Previously declassified communications from Strzok, however, show the FBI employees’ strong dislike and criticism of Trump as a presidential candidate. In a string of 2016 messages, just weeks after the formal investigation was opened, Page asked Strzok, “[Trump’s] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!” to which he replied: “No. No he’s not. We’ll stop it.”....

“Strzok was told via text in December of 2016 that the DOJ’s Office of Intelligence, “made it clear [REDACTED] would not support even our discussions let alone a[] [FISA] app” relating to Papadopoulos.

Other text messages released by Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and Sen. Chuck Grassley, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, on Thursday show more information related to the FBI’s investigation into now-disproven Russian collusion by the Trump campaign as well as former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s private email server very early into the investigations.”

https://thefederalist.com/2020/12/17/new-strzok-texts-show-fbi-was-investigating-trump-before-crossfire-hurricane-was-opened/

At first I was puzzled why CNN and MSNBC put Brennan and Clapper on payroll and hired them. That seemed odd until it dawned on me that the Enemy of the People put Brennan, Clapper, and Comey on air TO lLIE. That was the whole purpose, nothing else.

[Walt]

Back to the good ol' days.. Do things behind the curtain.
"In appointing Gina McCarthy to lead the newly created Office of Domestic Climate Policy, Joe Biden is placing his controversial environmental agenda out of view from the American people. McCarthy is set to join former Sen. John Kerry in a questionable environmental role which doesn’t require Senate confirmation, meaning less congressional oversight. However, when you look at McCarthy’s previous experience, you might understand why Biden doesn’t want her in front of any congressional committee."

https://dailycaller.com/2020/12/18/behrens-joe-biden-is-building-a-secret-epa/

[Walt]

"Who do you think I am??,,,, TRUMP??
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-team-refuses-questions-hunter

Trump took on all questions.. Biden,,,, NOT so much.

[Walt]

The Proggy news just keeps rolling in.

Yup,, Rob Peter to pay Paul..
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/18/tulsi-gabbard-redirect-profits-from-corporations-allowed-to-remain-open-to-small-businesses-forced-to-close/

OK,,, ANY LIB define "excess profit" And just how did you come to that conclusion?

[Don Bessee]

OMG a blow for free speech in the UK, melting snowflakes on line is not a crime -

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/12/18/free-speech-victory-judges-rule-social-media-users-have-right-to-offend/

;-)

[Gregory]

Found a well-turned phrase to share about GOP wins:

"One of the benefits was not having to listen to arrogant, smug (but uninformed), leftist assholes all the time.

You probably have no idea how valuable that is to 1/2 the voters."

[Steven Frisch]

Well Gregory I would say you are living proof that not all arrogant, smug, uninformed, assholes are leftists.

[Gregory]

You hate the competition, I know, Steve.

That's some snowstorm back east, ain't it?

[D]

I fixed it for you Greg,

"One of the benefits (of Trump losing) will be not having to listen to an arrogant, smug (but uninformed), asshole all the time."

[D]

"The explanations are complex and subject to debate, but it’s impossible to ignore that a portion of the right has descended, quite frankly, into madness. I partly blame a president who has advocated “birtherism” and given a pass to supporters of QAnon, who embrace some inchoate theory involving Satan, politicians and pedophiles."

https://www.ocregister.com/2020/12/18/lessons-for-halting-the-rights-descent-into-madness/

[George Rebane]

re D 850am - The evidence pours in that the polarized sides consider the other to be some combination of insane/ignorant/stupid/evil, in short, not suitable for cohabitation - all giving rise to the Great Divide or tyranny.

[Walt]

@ D💩's 8:50..
Yet plenty smarter than you, and able to wipe himself.

[Walt]

A headline for the true blue Proggy. The Biden illegitimate prezidency is already a dumpster fire.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/18/charles-hurt-bidens-transition-has-been-a-flaming-disaster/

[Walt]

And a reminder... Biden can't get a security clearance.

[L]

Keach @ 8:47- that could describe almost any anchor in the MSM. Did you mean Lavender Lemon or Madcow in particular?

[D]

George, at least there is one (the author of the piece) conservative that can admit to the Con insanity.

[D]

"Trump (the Head Cricket) contradicting Pompeo, downplays gravity of massive cyberattack against U.S. government, as well as Russia’s role"

Trump, contradicting Pompeo, downplays gravity of massive cyberattack against U.S. government, as well as Russia’s role
By Ellen Nakashima

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/russia-is-behind-the-broad-ongoing-cyber-spy-campaign-against-the-us-government-and-private-sector-pompeo-says/2020/12/19/8c850cf0-41b3-11eb-8bc0-ae155bee4aff_story.html

[Bill Tozer]

‘Facebook fact-checker struck deal with Communist China-linked social media company’

“TikTok is owned by ByteDance, a tech company headquartered in Beijing that has been the subject of considerable media attention due to its links with the Chinese Communist Party.”

https://justthenews.com/nation/technology/facebook-fact-checker-defends-contract-chinese-communist-linked-social-media

The rebel in me says, “ Tiananmen Square, Tiananmen Square, Tiananmen Square, Tibetan independence, Falun Gong," (all sources of consternation for China's ruling communist elite.)
If you guys never hear from me again, it’s because I said “Tiananmen Square, Tiananmen Square, Tiananmen Square” on line. Fact checker says I need to be erased. Put “Those darn Progressives where the death of me” on my tombstone. Or on my urn.

[D]

As cyclists and most every politico (except for far right/left gutter dwellers) knows that the road is road is more driveable in the center. That is where things get done.
But the gutter dwellers get the headlines.

[L]

So, Frisch, do you recall our extended discussion here about 8-10 years ago concerning Kali's utter dependence on others for energy? At the time, direct imports of electricity ran around 30% and imported natural gas was burned locally to account for an additional 50% of electric use. With Diablo Canyon going off-line soon, the dependency is only going to rise and the crazy notion that electric cars will help could hardly be crazier.

Well, nothing has really changed, except the future is beginning to catch up with the rolling blackouts in your part of the state. (Imagine if they turned off the power in South Central LA or SanFran for a couple of days.)

Anyway, now as then, it works fine until a) Kali runs out of money due to an exodus of the productive element and/or b) neighboring states no longer have a surplus of nat gas to sell both because of increased usage due to Kali refugees or Biden's anti-fracking crusade leads to shortages and Kali's needs sink to the bottom of others' barrels.

[Walt]

Wash. Compost again? Fake news. Speaking of gutter dwellers
just another name for a TROLL to cowardly to use it's real name.

[Bill Tozer]

What would Herb Cane say, (besides “bring me a nice cup of coffee”?)

Journalism’s Ivory Towers

“In a recent essay entitled “The Resentment That Never Sleeps,” New York Times columnist Thomas B. Edsall explains how a lowering of social status among non-college-educated white Americans has increased that demographic’s anxiety and helped fuel the populism that made possible Donald Trump’s rise to the presidency. Reporters at many of America’s most prestigious journalistic outlets have echoed these sentiments. But none of those reporters ever seems willing to acknowledge their own complicity in the situation. Plenty of jobs that once used to require no university degree or special certification now do. According to a report by the National Conference of State Legislatures, the number of American jobs requiring state certification has risen from one in 20 60 years ago to one in four today. Technically, journalists do not require a university degree in order to practice their trade. Practically speaking, however, they do. No-one who writes for the New York Times, the Atlantic, the New Yorker, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, or any other major US journalistic venue lacks a college degree. In fact, to write for one of those publications, you’d better make sure that your university degree comes from a highly prestigious institution.

The New York Times has more regular op-ed columnists who are transgender (Jennifer Finney Boylan) than who lack a college degree (none). Transgender people make up anywhere from 0.6 to five percent of the US population. According to the US Census, 36 percent of Americans have a college degree. So, roughly two-thirds of the Americans you see on the street will probably lack a college degree, but walk into the offices of a prestigious newspaper or magazine, and you’ll find almost no-one other than the janitors and possibly the receptionist from this cohort. That is not to say that legacy publications never provide column space for non-college-educated writers (I have been published by the Times on occasion), just that it is exceedingly rare.
——
“I don’t blame the Atlantic’s Annie Lowrey for not having been born in a prospector’s cabin like Harold Ross. She writes very well about the economic struggles of the working-class without ever having been a member of that class. And I don’t blame her colleague Emma Green for never having infiltrated a polygamous Mormon fundamentalist sect like Jack Anderson. She too writes well about the religious beliefs of poor and working-class Americans without sharing either their socio-economic status or their fervent Christianity. But I do blame them both (a little, anyway) for not calling upon their employer to give a voice to any of the working-class non-college-educated Americans they both seem to care so much about.

One could argue that once hired by the Times or the Atlantic or some other elite publication, a non-college-educated journalist would instantly become a member of the elite and therefore no longer qualified to speak on behalf of the working-class. But handing such a writer an elite title and a decent salary isn’t going to instantly instill a sudden fluency in critical theory or deconstructionism or any of the other intellectual fads that weaken so much contemporary journalism and analysis. If that kind of thing isn’t instilled in a person early and often during their formative years, it tends never to take root in them. Anyone who manages to escape the clutches of the university until the age of 30 is probably relatively safe from being caught up in the kudzu.”

https://quillette.com/2020/12/15/journalisms-ivory-towers/

I have a niece that wrote published articles for the Boston Globe, did all the research on Whitey Bulgar for a Pulitzer Prize author, and moved back to CA and landed a job at a newspaper covering local government (and the crime scene)....without ever taking a journalism course. And, she has a book out about a Christian sect she became familiar with. I have a friend from Mexico (US citizen) that whenever he needs money on the road, he will pop into a town and get a job at a local newspaper, without ever taking one creative writing or journalism course. His degree is from Princeton in anthropology, lol. What a waste of money.

[Walt]

Grinch lives matter.
https://www.breitbart.com/law-and-order/2020/12/19/watch-blm-harasses-wisconsin-childrens-christmas-charity-event-attendees/
"The People’s Revolution, a Black Lives Matter (BLM) organization, organized a march to disrupt a children’s cancer fundraiser in West Allis, Wisconsin, Friday night. The group marched down Candy Cane Lane and harassed suburban attendees to the annual charity event where the residents decorate their homes for Christmas and the holidays, Wisconsin."

[Walt]

Which one of you Socialist salesmen is happy to pay 45% taxation?(Denmark) or ,43.7 for Sweden?
Netherlands?
€ 0 - 20.384 36.65%
€ 20.385 - 34.300 38.10%
€ 34.301 - 68.507 38.10%
€ 68.508+ 51.75%

And wait months for that "free" health care.(where the rich fly here to get theirs in a timely manner)

[Walt]

The Brits must have "O" negotiating the Brexit deal.
The Brits are still getting screwed by the LIB loving EU.(those fine Socialist countries)
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/12/19/over-95-per-cent-fish-taken-britains-marine-protected-areas-go-eu/

And the EU fishermen sure as hell ain't "dolphin friendly".

[Walt]

AOC ain't the "hot stuff" she thought she was.
NO seat for YOU!!!
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/19/aoc-denied-house-committee-seat-secret-ballot-vote/

[D]

Clueless WalDoH!™ just put it on your China Bank credit card, eh dufus? How do you think we are going to pay our National debts and bring our deficits down?
Oh wait, Trump fixed all that, right, just like he said he was going to.
Bwahahaha

[fish]

Posted by: D | 19 December 2020 at 12:20 PM

I look forward to 5 weeks from now when debts and the deficit won’t matter again.

[paul emery]

Walt

Despite the taxation Denmark is cited as 4th in the Freedom Index George cites. George, Walt, can you explain than?

[fish]

Posted by: paul emery | 19 December 2020 at 12:27 PM

You know what to do......

Denmark would be lucky have the Punchmaster as its newest citizen.

[D]

Paul, it is because the Danes are no whiners.

[fish]

Posted by: D | 19 December 2020 at 12:47 PM

You should go with Punch.....

[paul emery]

Yeah D. Trump did a great job on our deficits-added 7 Trillion as I recall, not including the latest stimulus which will be on his account.

Left the Dems with a shattered economy and infrastructure and weakened national defense.

[Don Bessee]

Must have gotten the talking points for lefties @ 131

Left the Dems with a shattered economy and infrastructure and weakened national defense.

Its the lockdowns that are shattering business and what infrastructure do you speak of? Weakened defense? WTF are to babbling about. DOD has recovered from team 0's strangling and PC focus and is again focused on chi coms and rooskies. LOL

;-)

[NCRWW]

Hey Donnie,
I thought you were going to sick your little mutt on me this week? lol. woof woof. What happened? You are such a gigantic tool Don. Are you still sporting polyester 3 piece suits these days? Those were classic, along with those macho mutton chops. Do you want to summarize all your indiscretions and legal issues or should I do it for you? Your choice. Besides that, Joe Biden is the President in a month and he and his AG (and the NY AG) will clean out the Trump trash. People like you Don.
Loser.

[D]

"(Reuters) - Speaking at a private dinner for tech security executives at the St. Regis Hotel in San Francisco in late February, America’s top cyber defense chief boasted how well his organizations protect the country from spies."
Spoken like a Trump chief.

https://reut.rs/2Kki35f

[paul emery]

Don

What are the details of Trumps infrastructure bill? When was it presented to congress?

The recent Russian cyber attack is a grave threat to our security and well being .

[George Rebane]

As I've pointed out before, the Danes have an extremely high rate of emigration of people who create wealth and jobs. What keeps Danes satisfied is that they are the largest oil producer in the EU and don't have to spend money to defend themselves. And their healthcare costs are rising faster than their GDP. BTW, the Danes will stop all further oil development in 2030, which event will have an interesting impact on their economy. And check this out -
https://www.oecd.org/health/healthcarecostsunsustainableinadvancedeconomieswithoutreform.htm

[Bill Tozer]

Oh my.

Our local News Redirection must have been asleep at the wheel for the past 4 years.

Punchy says.
“Left the Dems with a shattered economy and infrastructure and weakened national defense“

Weaken national defense?? Trump inherited a weaken national defense. Remember Obama firing 100 generals (just like Stalin and Hiller), our Navy’s number of battle vessels sorely under what is needed for defense and hot spots breaking out across the globe, the Army in desperately in need of upgrading, the Air Force laying off pilots for lack of funding, aircraft, and downsizing, plus a wide open border to let terrorists come waltzing across on foot, along with some child predators, cartel members, and other real bad hombres.
Our national defense was decimated by the previous administration. And now member states of NATO have agreed to put money they pledged to as a condition of joining NATO...into their own self defense.
Even Japan hopped on board to pay for their own (upgraded) Defense. When asked why Japan never paid a dime before, the Japanese Premier said, “Because nobody ever asked us to.”
Our Allies are no longer counting of the US to pay for their own security so they can play with socialism, SJW style. A better defended NATO by member nations makes us all safer, with the exception of Turkey, I suppose.

Opps. Turkey has a huge army. Ok, with the exception of Germany. Germany, the largest economic powerhouse and de facto head of the EU, was told to pay 1.4% of their GDP to NATO, which they agreed to be 2% when they joined NATO way back when. The Krauts told Trump to fuck off and die, not only will they refuse to keep paying 1.4%, they will pay 1% next year. Go pound sand, Trump.
After Angie signed a natural gas agreement with Putin that Germany would buy much needed gas from Russia (Germany’s wind and solar program is a bust), she wants Putin to have his hand on the shut off valve if Putin ever decides to turn off the heat during a bitter Germany winter, lol. To make matters worse, a NATO report revealed that Germany’s Army has only 7% of its forces equipped and ready (clothes and winter gear) for a winter battle for 7 days. Only a handful out of the entire German military are equipped for a 30 day winter battle. All their big transport planes were grounded due to lack of parts, needed repairs and just worthless as teets on an old hippy chick with unbraided armpit hair. Worthless as a weirdo with a man bun.

As I write this, Russian forces are gathering on the Eastern Front of Germany and Europe. Good thing our military has been rebuilt under Trump, bad thing that Germany is making us less safe. They liked Obama much better.
———————-
I could be mistaken, but didn’t I post a link about a year ago that showed Denmark’s health care system worked so well that 50% of those who went to the hospital and WERE admitted for surgeries and other ER stuff chose......drumroll please....chose to pay for a private hospital instead of a hospital part of the national health care system...which is free. Yes, I believe that link was from the Danish government stats.
The Danes know something Punchy and Steve don’t know, I reckon. You get what you pay for. :)

[paul emery]

Well George that's one of the 16 countries ahead of us in the FRreedom Index that you cite.
all the others have national health care so what in your mind does that indicate.

Also George still waiting for one example of a free market health care system that you respect and would like to see be an influence on our system. I'ce been asking for years and still none. I guess that means they don't exist so you seem to have no examples for comparison.

[fish]

Posted by: NCRWW | 19 December 2020 at 01:48 PM

Hi jetsi......

[Don Bessee]

Never saw anything unusual on my cameras tollio so it looks like you failed to pay us a visit! LOL

Polyester double knit, mutton chops, you must be projecting never had those, i am more into cashmere wool blends.

;-)

[D]

Trump is reportedly considering appointing Sidney Powell as special counsel, according to The New York Times, Wall Street Journal and CNN
Based on a scoop from The New York Times

Bwahahaha

[Walt]

So when you packing up Emery? You and D- can be best buds over there. Go where it already is. I'm sure there is a 4.7 watt radio station there... (under strict GOV. supervision)

[George Rebane]

PaulE 253pm - Here's one more example why nothing gets resolved when attempting a dialogue with you. For years you have completely ignored my answer which I again repeated at Scattershots 921am, repeated here -

PaulE 919pm - For you "nothing has changed" because you haven't been paying attention to world news and the RR commentaries that have reported on the changing landscape of nationalized healthcare across the world - the lamestream does a terrible thing to healthy minds.

And there is no requirement for ANYTHING to already exist that has the desiderata of what one is trying to achieve - all new developments, inventions, revolutions, ... have been dreamt of, pondered, and launched without the need for precedence (as was America). My life has been blessed with the ability and opportunity to walk where none have yet trod. Your usual logic remains fallible.

[paul emery]

So George you agree that this has never been tried before so there's no way to evaluate it's effectiveness in providing reasonable health care for the general population. It's just an idea without any verifiable substance of real life examples to support it. In he meantime Trump failed to produce a healthcare plan despite endless promises that he would have it in "two weeks". That's typical from our soon to be homeless Liar in Chief.

D

Sidney Powell misrepresenting Trump!!! What a joke she is. Show me one case that has ruled in her favor during this election scuffle. Just imagine all the RR bucks that have been distributed to her and Rudy. Trump is pocketing the rest with virtually none heading to Georgia.

[George Rebane]

PaulE 431pm - Yep, that's the way civilization moves forward. Does your continued expression of this fear of the unknown finally fess up that you progressives are really sniveling sclerotics who cringe from the new (as your political history demonstrates), and it's really the conservatives who have the courage and knowhow to launch new revolutionary initiatives in government, technology, and economics to improve the lot of mankind (as again history demonstrates)?

[paul emery]

So George you must be terribly disappointed in Trump for failing to advance your version of health care .. In fact he advanced no health care plan at all letting Obamacare just become more and more accepted.

[Walt]

If things are so bad Emery,, LEAVE. You have the "freedom" to do so. (Until Herr Gavin finds a way to stop you.)

[Walt]

Look at the LIB bright side Emery, You pal Biden is looking to finish the job his bud "O" started. Turning the U.S. into a 3RD world shithole you and the Commiecrats invision.

[Bill Tozer]

Paul, the elderly, like you, get medicare, parts A&B. The poor folks get free medicaid. Anyone/everyone else who wants The Affordable Care Act can sign up with Covered California (here). Its a lefty version of Medicaid Fot All. There are even plans to choose from to fit one's budget. Pre-existing conditions covered as well, law of the land. And the best thing about Obamacare is it won't cost the Treasury one thin dime and the average family of four will save $1,500/year.

I just don't see the need for more government run health insurance. Anybody can sign up for Covered Califofnia--especially the poor, unhealthy, sick, infirmed, the weak, and most importantly, the uninsured. Like, what is the hoopala about?

Paul, everyone of the people you care about--be it the homeless at HH, a friend, a relative, a friend of a friend, a starving artist...all of them probably get free medical for being poor and down on their luck. At least the transitional and permanent homeless/addicts do. And the pony-tailed guitarist playing on the sidewk in front of his open instrument case with a couple bucks and a few quarters tossed in to prime the donation pump.
I assume most of your friends are eligible for free medical with $1.30 RX scripts, a bargin at 60x the price. Whine, whine, whine.

Or...or...or is this decade old recycled debate because its Open Enrollment Time and you are too cheap to kick down for Parts D thru G? D with G ain't bad. Pay the premium (reasonable) up front for the year and don't lose obe hour's sleep over it. Harmony.

[paul emery]

George

AS far as healthcare goes what did Trump do that were "new revolutionary initiatives"?

[Nemo]

He passed a law against shit eating dogs in Nevada county, thereby saving your life.

[Walt]

Damn Emery,, News flash.. Nancy Pelosi happened.. Your Queen of the DEMNED.
What the hell you want? Trump to act like a dictator and create cheap healthcare with a phone and a pen?

You can't get the old krone to get a sane bill to save the nation from the Chinese flu. And you think she would pass a Trumpcare Bill?
It's time you checked into Hospice. Now there is some needed care for Emery.

[Bill Tozer]

Well, let’s look at what Trump “Left the Dems with a shattered economy”... and more vomit spewing ignorance @ 1:31 pm.

Bill sez: JOE BIDEN must be the luckiest man alive. He is going to step into office right as the V bottoms out and begins to take off and come roaring back. And Joe will get all the credit..until he destroys he really flattens the arrow.
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Sure, it’s only one outfit’s opinion out of thousands of opinions and what do they know?

RESEARCH DEC 1, 2020
2021 Global Economic Outlook: The Next Phase of the V

Morgan Stanley projects strong global GDP growth of 6.4% for 2021—led first by emerging markets, followed by reopening economies in the U.S. and Europe—in a macro outlook that diverges from the consensus.

“In their 2021 outlook, the economics team at Morgan Stanley Research says the V-shaped that the team forecast in their 2020 midyear outlook is now entering a new self-sustaining phase and is on track to deliver 6.4% GDP growth in the coming year.”

https://www.morganstanley.com/ideas/global-economic-outlook-2021?

If true, Joe Biden is the luckiest man alive. Oh, D will go ape shit with glee. Republicans drove the economy into the ditch again. Trump should have used the bully pulpit to make everyone wear a mask, constitutional or not. But noooo. So the Dems governors had to shut down the economy again and really drive the stake through small businesses’ hearts ( the little guy)....and it’s all Trump’s fault because he was photographed not wearing a masks and he is responsible for what Gavin and Fredo’s brother does.

Vaccine and a risky taking resilient economy coming Biden’s way. The Great White Father in Washington has arrived.

[Barry Pruett]

Even the Rose Bowl is leaving California for Texas. 😂😂🇺🇸

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30559293/cfp-semifinal-scheduled-rose-bowl-moving-att-stadium-arlington-texas

[Walt]

What? Emery or the Douche haven't posted THIS yet?
"the Times report that the president discussed imposing martial law and deploying the military to rerun the election, a proposal that Flynn discussed on Newsmax."

You two (fake news) Trump humpers are getting slow!

[D]

WalDoH!™
Q: How do you milk sheep?
A: Step 1 - Tell them the election was rigged.
Step 2 - Ask for a donation.

Easy Peasey

[fish]

Posted by: D | 20 December 2020 at 09:07 AM

Q: How do you milk sheep?

Great.....another one of your weird fetishes.

[Bill Tozer]

Sheep again? Dr. Rebane frowns on the topic of Democrats and their historical fetish for sheep. And NAMBA. Perhaps we should refer to milking goats. It’s safer to discuss, in more ways than one.

[D]

You go girl!

https://www.businessinsider.com/kimberly-guilfoyle-reportedly-offered-lap-dance-trump-campaign-fundraiser-2020-11

[Walt]

See? Told ya',, Screw Americans first.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/20/democrats-seek-permanently-add-foreign-workers-u-s-labor-market/

And the Proggycrats say Repubs were in the pocket of big bizz.

Trump looked out for the American worker and did his best to protect OUR jobs...
Commiecrats on the other hand are out to give them to foreign invaders.(at their invite)

[Walt]

Morn'n Peoples.. A new day in Hawaii! look who else woke up.
https://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/cams/panorama.php?cam=KWcam

[Walt]

Here LIBS,, this is your "tough on crime" kind of guy.
https://www.breitbart.com/law-and-order/2020/12/21/soros-funded-da-george-gascon-apologizes-to-murder-victims-family-for-telling-them-to-keep-their-mouth-shut/

Not surprised a pro thug dude gets the job.
And your side screams about guns?
"Joshua Rodriguez was murdered in 2015.

Gascón was elected with the help of millions of dollars from left-wing billionaire George Soros, who has funded the election of left-wing prosecutors across the country. Since taking office earlier this month, he has begun implementing radical policies that have included ending cash bail, preventing prosecutors from seeking the death penalty, and removing some sentencing enhancements for crimes such as using a gun or belonging to a gang.

One case involved a suspect charged with a double murder, including that of L.A. Sherrif’s Deputy Gilbert Solano.
After public criticism, he restored some enhancements, including for hate crimes, child abuse, or sex trafficking — though not for crime with guns, gangs, or prior convictions.)

[D]

Barr Won't Appoint
Hunter Biden, Vote Fraud

https://www.wsj.com/articles/barr-says-he-won-t-appoint-special-counsel-to-probe-hunter-biden-vote-fraud-11608567231

[Bill Tozer]

My my. Here's a no-brainer. Blame Trump, blame Moscow Mitch, blame some other dude who done did the dirty deed. What a super tramp Peloski is.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/pelosi-repeatedly-refuses-to-answer-cnn-about-why-she-rejected-bigger-stimulus-bill-before-election

[L]

Good link, Toes. Queen Nan knows she can roll Slojo for a couple more trillion as soon as he's installed, meanwhile this trillion gets blamed on Trump.

I'll bet our resident deficit hawk (Paul) $100 that Slojo will have a bigger deficit in his first year in office than Trump did in his first three. Sound good, Paul?

Take it or STFU about deficits and who causes them...

[paul emery]

L

Email me with your real name and email address so we can talk off line about your wager proposal.

[email protected]

[Walt]

2.4 TRILLION Emery,, and all because of your Queen of the DAMNED.
$82 billion for schools(??) They are CLOSED!!!
At least there is no state and GOV. bailouts.
The legislation notably excludes two of the thorniest issues, which have plagued negotiations for months: funding for state and local governments and a liability shield for businesses against coronavirus-related lawsuits.

And for us? a meager 600 bucks. (Shut up and go way.)
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/900b-covid-relief-deal-approved-by-congress-after-months-of-stalled-negotiations

[D]

What's poor old MBS going to to when Trump is gone?

The U.S. government is weighing a request to declare Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman immune from a federal lawsuit accusing him of targeting for assassination a former top intelligence officer who could disclose damaging secrets about the prince’s ascent to power, according to legal documents related to the case.
The Saudi government has asked to shield the prince from liability in response to a complaint brought by Saad Aljabri, a former Saudi counterterrorism leader and longtime U.S. intelligence ally now living in exile in Canada.

[D]

WalDoH!™ - Pelosi? You mean McConnell don't you?

Bloomberg) -- The House released the text of a massive 5,593-page package of legislation that combines pandemic relief with a bill to fund government operations just hours before lawmakers were set to cast their votes.

The roughly $900 billion aid package is attached to a $1.4 trillion measure to fund government operations through the end of the fiscal year. Also included are major tax, energy, national security policy measures.

[D]

Porn for WalDoH!™ - The Coronavirus Bill includes $38 Billion for operations of Army, $47 Billion for Navy, $33 Billion for Air Force, $2.5 Billion for Space Force; ;plus Billions for bullets, ships, planes.

Looks like Biden gets his bullets.

[Bill Tozer]

600 smackers, US ? Well, Shoot Howdy. I am old enough to remember when Queen Nana of Botox said in no uncertain terms that Trump’s tax cut would save the average Joe Blow $2,500/year as “crumbs”. Crumbs, I tell ya, crumbs!

Daily Quotes, a cartoon, and a meme.

Insight: “For man, when perfected, is the best of animals, but, when separated from law and justice, he is the worst of all; since armed injustice is the more dangerous, and he is equipped at birth with the arms of intelligence and with moral qualities which he may use for the worst ends.” —Aristotle (384-322 BC)

Good question: “How did we go from starting a revolution over a tax on tea to collectively shrugging our shoulders when the government locks us in our homes, keeps us from seeing our families and arbitrarily closes our small businesses?” —Congresswoman-elect Lauren Boebert

Observations: “Mr. Trump doesn’t want to admit he lost, and he can duck the inauguration if he likes. But his sore loser routine is beginning to grate even on millions who voted for him.” —The Wall Street Journal

For the record: “Trump is very predictable in always wanting to put America first. But China prefers having American presidents who usually put communist China first.” —Gary Bauer

Straight from the source: “I’d like to say very bluntly our mission is to redistribute wealth. A lot of people bristle at that phrase. That is, in fact, the phrase we need to use.” —NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio

Non sequitur: “We will make sure that creating jobs, tackling the climate crisis, and centering equity are at the heart of our transportation and infrastructure vision.” —Secretary of Transportation nominee Pete Buttigieg

Braying jenny: “I’m going to continue to fight for our most vulnerable communities who have been disproportionately impacted by the virus, for our health care workers, for our essential workers, for incarcerated men and women to be prioritized in the distribution of the vaccine.” —Ayanna Pressley (D-MA)

Parroting eugenics: “Harald Schmidt, an expert in ethics and health policy at the University of Pennsylvania, said that it is reasonable to put essential workers ahead of older adults, given their risks, and that they are disproportionately minorities. ‘Older populations are whiter,’ Dr. Schmidt said. ‘Society is structured in a way that enables them to live longer. Instead of giving additional health benefits to those who already had more of them, we can start to level the playing field a bit.’” —The New York Times

Alpha jackass I: “[Mike Pence] and his wife Karen will be [getting COVID vaccine shots] on television to show that the vaccine is safe. I guess the thinking is if it’s good enough for ‘America’s First Karen,’ it should be good enough for the rest of them too.” —Jimmy Kimmel

Alpha jackass II: “Maybe save that dose for someone else. The only cure Mike Pence should get right now is a bottle of Clorox and a heat lamp.” —Jimmy Kimmel

And last… “Remember that time brilliant negotiator Nancy Pelosi turned down a $1.8 trillion deal from Steve Mnuchin?” —Ben Shapiro regarding the $900 billion COVID relief bill
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https://patriotpost.us/cartoons/29214

[Walt]

Dip💩 calls national security "porn"?
Step back and away from that crack pipe.

[Walt]

Speaking of DIP💩,,, Yes, Herr Gavin (your fearless leader)
may get kicked to the curb.
Hear the news? SO many people are leaving the state a seat in the House may go South too. One less LIB to worry about.

[Walt]

This should speed up the "kick the somebitch out" list signing.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/newsom-extend-stay-home-order
"California Gov. Gavin Newsom said Monday that he would likely extend his state's stay-at-home order.
"Based upon all the data," Newsom, a Democrat, said at a news conference. "It’s very likely that we’re going to extend the stay at home order." "

Funny,, the Thanksgiving doom and gloom prediction was an epic BS!

[Larry Wirth]

Paul @ 1:25- Sounds like we have a bet but won't know the outcome until the bill for 2021 comes in. Briefly, the bet is that the nat'l debt will increase more between 20 Jan 2021 and 20 Jan 2022 than it did between 20 Jan 2017 and 20 Jan 20 with the year in between not in consideration. You already know my name, L is an abbreviation and my e-mail will remain private. George knows where I am and how to contact me.

This should get you rooting for a pair of Republican Senate victories in Georgia, much as I hate to give you a handicap.