Sandbox - 19jul21

[If the US was being damaged even a tenth as much as claimed by foreign state-sponsored rogue hackers demanding money, and we did nothing, then we are over as a sovereign nation-state.  Rebane Doctrine calls for 10:1 retribution on the infrastructures of such sponsoring states; none of this crap about ‘balanced’, 'measured', or ‘proportional’ responses that we might take some day when we really get pissed off.  We’re playing with thugs who worship and understand only force – it’s time to up the ante and convince Russia and China that the price of cyberwarfare just went up.  Gjr]

Comments

[George Rebane]

PaulE 1237pm - Neo-Marxism is the 21st century version of Marxism espoused and practiced in the radical wing of the Democratic Party by individuals such as Sanders, Warren, the Squad, ..., and organizations such as BLM and Antifa. Neo-Marxism is a common concept long discussed in centrist and conservative literature and media, and completely blacked out in the leftwing lamestream media. Save in academia, the notion of social orders labeled Marxist are still noxious to most Americans, therefore the label cannot yet be connected with the Democratic Party in the public forum. You, of course, given your media consumption proclivities, have most likely never heard of neo-Marxism, hence your query.

[Q]

Back at you Emery. Explain how that is not happening today.

[Paul Emery]

George

I wanted to know Walts definition so I could understand the context as to what he's talking about. So it sounds like Neo-marxism may or may not have any connection with Marxism (capitol letter) as described by Marx. So according to you anybody can be a Marxist if they believe in Social Security or health care for all for example. How about my friends in Denmark? Are they Marxist because they support the Danish Government with high taxation and free education for all?. Pretty much free through a bachelor degree. The rest depends on your academic achievements. Here you have to go into massive debt unless you are from a privileged family.

[Don Bessee]

The pony tail of ignorance is wallowing in it again! LOL

;-)

[George Rebane]

PaulE 122pm - Sad to say, but you missed it altogether. And yes, I would say that you tilt to being a neo-Marxist by what you've posted in these pages.

[Paul Emery]

Once again Don is relying on personal attacks because he has nothing else to say.

[Don Bessee]

You manifest ignorance of what a marxist is in your 122, own it and stop sniveling and prove you can actually put forth a a cogent thought thats not a retread of talking points for lefties. ROFLOL!

;-)

[fish]

Paul Emery - Americas Ex-Wife

[Paul Emery]

Don

There are many different definitions of Marxism. A casual inquiry will show that. For example what is Neo Marxism. For purposes of discussion we need to agree on that before we can go forward. That said what is your definition of Neo Marxism?

[Paul Emery]

So George to make it simple do you believe that the Danish who embrace their system of government are neo-marxists?

[Bill Tozer]

Paul. @ 3:05 pm.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. We do not have to agree before we can more forward.

BTW, anybody catch the bold headline Wa Po article (behind paywall), ‘Did Biden Commit an Impeachable Offense in Ukraine?’
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‘From JFK to AOC: How the Democrat Party Turned Into a 'Neo-Maoist Movement' — Victor Davis Hanson

https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2021/07/24/from-jfk-to-aoc-how-the-democrat-party-turned-into-a-neo-maoist-movement-victor-davis-hanson-n415718

[Don Bessee]

The ponytail of ignorance evading in an oh so lame way @305. Depends on what the definition of is is. ROFLOL!

;-)

[Don Bessee]

Perhaps the pony tail of ignorance could use his talking points for lefties decoder ring to translate this -

AOC says she wants 'to abolish our carceral system'
'I want to abolish our carceral system that's designed to trap Black and Brown men,' Ocasio-Cortez said

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-abolish-carceral-system

;-)

[Paul Emery]

That's her opinion Don and is something I don't agree with.

[Bill Tozer]

Too funny. Where do these bed stains come from?

BROKEN RECORD: Brian Stelter Puts On Carl Bernstein to Call Trump a Domestic War Criminal

https://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2021/07/25/broken-record-brian-stelter-puts-carl-bernstein-call-trump-domestic
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VILE MSNBC Spews LIE That Texas GOP Is Against Condemning KKK in Schools

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/brad-wilmouth/2021/07/26/vile-msnbc-spews-lie-texas-gop-against-condemning-kkk-schools

[Walt]

Imagin that. Emery won't say why it's NOT NEO Marxist today.
What's the indoctrination of children in WOKENESS Emery?
How bout the decriminalization of crime Emery? Let the criminals run wild.
The destruction of the voting system.(gotta get rid of the secure vote.)
You ignored it the first time.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/07/26/democrats-fed-election-integrity-laws-18-states/
"Democrats are worried about winning the 2022 midterm elections after Republican state legislatures reformed 30 election integrity laws in 18 states and additional legislation may come.

CEO of the Stacey Abrams-founded New Georgia Project, Nsé Ufot, told Politico, “If there isn’t a way for us to repeat what happened in November 2020, we’re f—ed.” "

Trying to undo vote integrity is pretty damned MARXIST if you aske me.
Flood the system with fraud votes.(just like the last election)

Now don't forget the push to get rid of COPS. Anarchy in the streets. "Please Mr. "G" man, take it all over." Pure Marxism.

[Don Bessee]

Dont hold your breath on seeing the truth about chicomspygate -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/07/26/exclusive-classified-report-biden-could-release-provides-intricate-detail-on-eric-swalwell-relationship-with-fang-fang/

;-)

[Paul Emery]

Walt, this is the official statement re last elections: summary “The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history."

Joint Statement from Elections Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council & the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Executive Committees
Original release date: November 12, 2020

WASHINGTON – The members of Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council (GCC) Executive Committee – Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) Assistant Director Bob Kolasky, U.S. Election Assistance Commission Chair Benjamin Hovland, National Association of Secretaries of State (NASS) President Maggie Toulouse Oliver, National Association of State Election Directors (NASED) President Lori Augino, and Escambia County (Florida) Supervisor of Elections David Stafford – and the members of the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council (SCC) – Chair Brian Hancock (Unisyn Voting Solutions), Vice Chair Sam Derheimer (Hart InterCivic), Chris Wlaschin (Election Systems & Software), Ericka Haas (Electronic Registration Information Center), and Maria Bianchi (Democracy Works) - released the following statement:

“The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result.

“When states have close elections, many will recount ballots. All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary. This is an added benefit for security and resilience. This process allows for the identification and correction of any mistakes or errors. There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.

“Other security measures like pre-election testing, state certification of voting equipment, and the U.S. Election Assistance Commission’s (EAC) certification of voting equipment help to build additional confidence in the voting systems used in 2020.

“While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too. When you have questions, turn to elections officials as trusted voices as they administer elections.”

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/12/joint-statement-elections-infrastructure-government-coordinating-council-election

[Don Bessee]

The truth is starting to burn creepy grampa joe -

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2021/07/26/bidenflation-majority-of-americans-say-economy-is-in-poor-shape/

;-)

[Don Bessee]

I have to admit it is fun to watch the throw it all away in such spectacular fashion -

A former Obama pollster warned Democrats are “endangering” the wafer-thin House majority in the midterms when they bloat spending packages with their radical partisan agenda items.

Joel Benenson, the lead Obama pollster, told Axios “You gotta win the middle to win.” This means you need to keep the swing voters on your side to win. However, Benenson said his years of data show only a small amount of swing voters tolerate massive spending bills.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/07/26/obama-pollster-warns-democrats-about-pumping-up-spending-bill/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/07/26/report-critical-race-theory-may-sway-independent-suburban-voters-away-from-democrats/

;-)

[Walt]

Lol Emery, most secure My ass.
I post the proof that says otherwise, and you act like you never seen it.

[George Rebane]

PaulE 310pm - For you to get a better handle on the complexities of neo-Marxism, you can examine the writings of those I cited in my 1252pm, some of whom self-declare their Marxism. For a more focused definition see Mark Levin's 'American Marxism'. And there is no requirement for discussions such as these to proceed with an agreement on definitions. The best we can hope for is to understand what definitions the other uses. Here is something to get you started.

"Neo-Marxism relates to forms of political philosophy which arise from the adaptation of Marxist thought to accommodate or confront modern issues such as the global economy, the capitalist welfare state, and the stability of liberal democracies. Neo-Marxists believe the economic system creates a wealthy class of owners and a poor class of workers. They also believe that certain social institutions such as churches, prisons and schools have been created to maintain the division between the powerful and the powerless. Whereas Marxism focuses on a stateless society, Neo-Marxists emphasize on the imperialistic and militaristic government to prevent the concentration of surplus capital in the hands of business elites— China can be more or less considered as an example."

[Barry Pruett]

Four hours ago Paul didn’t know what Neo-Marxism is. Now he wants to have an actual debate framing what Neo-Marxism is.

https://www.heritage.org/international-economies/commentary/denmark-not-socialist-economic-nirvana

Try again Paul.

[Walt]

I don't think Emery even knows what "Neo" even means.

[Walt]

OK Emery, if voting was so damned "secure", then care to excuse this away?
"Along with the multitude of states that have successfully passed new election integrity measures, such as voting ID. and early voting requirements, more than 400 bills with election integrity provisions have “been introduced in 49 states in the 2021 legislative sessions.”"

[Paul Emery]

Walt show me one Official investigation that has determined substantial voter fraud of the scope that could change any of the states elections. Please provide links. Everything you post is just rumor or fake news and not based on fact. Show me again show me one investigation that accuses voter fraud of the nature that could affect any of the elections

[Bill Tozer]

Better link:
Victor Davis Hanson: How did the Democratic Party of JFK, Bill Clinton turn into a woke neo-Maoist movement?

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/democratic-party-jfk-bill-clinton-woke-neo-maoist-movement-victor-davis-hanson
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Deroy Murdock: Biden, Democrat policy failures – from crime to immigration, can Left get anything right?

Can the Left get anything right?

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/biden-democrat-policy-failures-crime-immigration-energy-deroy-murdock
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[Walt]

Avoiding the facts again Emery? This "But look over here" crap is getting old.
You have been given the irregularities over and over.
So you can kiss my ass at this point.

Again. If things were just fine, then why all the "fixes" as shown above?
States broke their own voter laws by sending out mail in ballots. That's a fact. "drive through voting was also illegal.. But done anyway. Another fact you refuse to see.

Your thinker is as shot as Biden's.

[Bill Tozer]

BIDEN’S APPROVAL RATING SLIPS SIGNIFICANTLY
Byron York points out that Joe Biden’s approval rating shows the first sign of meaningful decline. In the latest Gallup poll, Biden is at 50 percent approval and 45 percent disapproval — down from 57 percent approval and 37 percent disapproval at the start of his term.

What’s the explanation for this decline? Gallup attributes it at least in part to “the law of political gravity” — the end of the “honeymoon” most new presidents get from the public that has just elected them.

However, Biden’s favorable rating among independents has dropped from 61 percent at the start of his presidency to 48 percent now. More than political gravity is required to explain that fall.

Several plausible explanations come to mind. They include growing awareness that Biden might not be “all there,” the border crisis, the surge in violent crime, and Biden’s unwillingness to stand up to the far-left wing of his party on a variety of matters.

In my view, though, the biggest factor is concern about the economy and, relatedly, concern about the coronavirus. Byron points to a new ABC News/Ipsos poll in which Biden’s approval for handling the economy has fallen below 50 percent among independents. This corresponds roughly to his overall rating with this group.

Byron highlights another finding from the same poll. ABC News asked: “Thinking about the next 12 months, would you say you feel optimistic or pessimistic about the ways things are going in this country?” At the end of April, 64 percent said they felt optimistic, versus 36 percent who felt pessimistic. Now, less than three months later, just 45 percent feel optimistic, while 55 percent feel pessimistic.

Why the surge in pessimism? It’s due partly, I think, to the fact that recent economic performance hasn’t matched expectations. Perhaps more importantly, there’s a sense that, because coronavirus cases are increasing, the next 12 months are likely to be bumpier all around than had been hoped.

This means that Biden’s approval rating might move upwards if fears about the next 12 months aren’t realized. But even if it does, Biden for now must govern without the popularity he enjoyed a few months ago. For Byron, this means “less clout on Capitol Hill.”

Of course, [Biden] is still solid with nearly all Democrats, especially the most partisan ones. But for the “centrist” Democrats, most notably Sens. Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, who have given Biden fits in a 50-50 Senate, Biden’s decline in support among independents will encourage more independence.

That is why you see so many Democrats urging Biden to hurry up and push his agenda through Congress as quickly as possible, before his ratings decline more. The president is politically weaker today than he was three months ago, and he will likely be weaker still three months from now.
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Linked source: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/byron-yorks-daily-memo-biden-approval-showing-first-signs-of-meaningful-decline

[Walt]

Get the book Emery.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/57873303-american-marxism

[Walt]

"When did Marxism come to America?
German Marxist immigrants who arrived in the United States after the 1848 revolutions in Europe brought socialist ideas with them."

[Bill Tozer]

Democrats Rapidly Losing Ground In Fight Over Critical Race Theory

https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/26/democrats-rapidly-losing-ground-in-fight-over-critical-race-theory/
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Why Democrats’ Massive Effort To Suppress Election Concerns Is Dangerous
Americans should see 2020 and the January 6 riots as a wake-up call to the future our nation faces should election integrity not be restored

https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/26/why-democrats-paranoid-effort-to-suppress-election-concerns-is-dangerous/

[Bill Tozer]

This will piss off the tax and spenders big time. Head exploding angry.

‘Democrats Angry Debt Limit Might Pause Their Overspending Spree’
Republican lawmakers’ profligacy does not give Democrats carte blanche to pursue even more reckless levels of spending

https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/26/democrats-angry-debt-limit-might-pause-their-overspending-spree/

[Bill Tozer]

This does not bode well for the Dems. The never ending pandemic. We are well beyond flattening the curve to not overburden Sierra Nevada Memorial Hospital and our health care system. That issue was left in the dust many country miles ago. We have come a great distance with 100s of thousands of small businesses ain’t ever coming back and yet, we have gone nowhere.

‘Anthony Fauci Champions The Forever Pandemic’

Dr. Anthony Fauci welcomed back mask mandates regardless of vaccination status on Friday during an interview on Fox News with Neil Cavuto

https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/24/anthony-fauci-champions-the-forever-pandemic/
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Wasn’t Joe Biden VP in 2015?

Report: France Tried To Warn U.S. In 2015 That China Kicked Them Out Of Wuhan Lab

Intelligence officials in France warned U.S. State Department officials in 2015 that communist China planned to cease its collaboration agreement at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, according to a former State Department COVID-19 investigator

https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/26/report-france-tried-to-warn-u-s-in-2015-that-china-kicked-them-out-of-wuhan-lab/

[Bill Tozer]

Can’t get no respect.....or prudently avoiding the Super Spreader?

‘Texas Dems Beg White House For Meeting, Beg Supporters For Dr. Pepper And Hairspray’

The quorum-busting Democrats in Washington have gained meetings with several high-profile party leaders in their quest for federal action on voting rights, including House Majority Whip James Clyburn, Vice President Kamala Harris and several Democratic senators,” the Statesmen noted. “But they still await the biggest get of all: President Joe Biden. And on Thursday, they expressed frustration over the White House’s apparent disinterest in scheduling a meeting with members of the Texas group.”

At least one member of the delegation-in-exile “vented” about the issue during a Zoom meeting with Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-TX).

“He won’t meet with us on Zoom like this, and I’m trying to be tactful, but I don’t know how else to say it, man. I’m just pissed off at this point. He doesn’t give us the respect the way you have,” Rep. Richard Peña Raymond said.

Biden may have a reason for avoiding a meeting with Texas Democrats — and not just a political one. Since arriving in Washington, D.C., at least six members of the delegation have tested positive for COVID-19, after flying maskless on a private jet together. Following those reports came reports that aides to Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and several White House aides also tested positive for the virus after attending a reception with the self-exited legislators, suggesting that the Texas Democrats set off an outbreak.

Both the White House and the Texas Democrats said, through spokespeople, that they would not be giving an updated count of how many aides and legislators tested positive for the virus, leaving the true extent of the situation hidden.......

[Requests for hard candy, Dr. Pepper? That does not sound like a healthy diet{

......Amazon, of course, also ships those items, for free with a Prime membership and, in some cases, within hours.

Commentators on social media were quick to give helpful advice.

“They’re in a luxury hotel with full room service, starting at $189 a night, with 7-11, CVS and restaurants a block away,” one suggested.

“Tell them to go home,” added another.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/texas-dems-beg-white-house-for-meeting-beg-supporters-for-dr-pepper-and-hairspray

[Barry Pruett]

Tozer @ 500pm. Great article. https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/26/why-democrats-paranoid-effort-to-suppress-election-concerns-is-dangerous/

[George Rebane]

re PaulE 442pm - here is a vintage Emery reply - total change of subject. He apparently does not understand the import of the question as to why so many state legislatures are concerned about voter integrity. To him the 'Polly wants a cracker' reply is always the requirement to show voter fraud convictions, else no fraud occurred. He seems to have no idea why such indictments and convictions have politically and historically been so hard to come by, yet only the deaf and dumb remain ignorant of voter fraud given the reams of extra-judicial evidence presented.

[Paul Emery]

Got to repeat myself Walt. You just don't sem to get it.

Walt show me one Official investigation that has determined substantial voter fraud of the scope that could change any of the states elections.

show me just one QWalt. that should not be too difficult if things are as you describe them.

The key is offical investigation

[Walt]

A snipit for Emery.
"The Left knows this and has sharpened sickles for Sens. Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley, who raised constitutional objections to counting Arizona and Pennsylvania’s electors. They also wielded this weapon to sow further division in the Republican caucus when the GOP decided to remove Rep. Liz Cheney from her leadership position. The press and politicians also brandish “The Big Lie” talking point to discredit investigations into voting irregularities, such as in Arizona.

The most effective use of “The Big Lie” storyline, however, has been weaponizing that narrative to mute the growing evidence of widespread illegal voting and other election irregularities and to combat efforts by state legislatures to enact voter-integrity laws."

[Paul Emery]

Evidence Walt? Can you describe legal examples of "evidence" that are being investigated by proper authorities.

thanks.

[Walt]

Emery forgets the voter investigations in GA. and AZ. are court approved. That makes them "official"
And fact to those fraud votes and actions have been shoved down your throat.
So you go right on denying the existence of those facts.
It just goes to show you have no integrity.

[Bill Tozer]

Nancy Pelosi’s on her last legs: Devine

https://nypost.com/2021/07/25/nancy-pelosis-on-her-last-legs-devine/