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28 February 2022

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Scott O

from the previous sandbox:
S(capital S?)cenes 9:20 - first time I've seen that. Same person?
"You wouldn't like the price if your only source of electricity could charge anything it liked."
Ahem...
Only the very hottest whores can charge 'anything' they like.
I would dare any monopoly electrical company to start that crap. Because it wouldn't just be my bill going up, it would be every ones'.
My valid point was that the 'regulators' should only allow the energy utilities to produce and distribute their product at the lowest possible rate to the users and not involve themselves and the rate payers' money in trendy political BS and 'green' experiments.
Here's what your laughable 'regulators' have done in CA:
https://calmatters.org/california-divide/debt/2021/03/california-high-electricity-prices/

George Rebane

We have intermittent internet now. The problem for those of us at the end of the DSL distribution tree that there is a PG&E noise source which the ATT guys discovered with the help of an AM radio. It started to hiss and squeal when they drove by the PG&E pole that transmitted the noise. According to the mavens in the bucket trucks, there are nine of us up here that have 'dirty power'. The dirty power is picked up by our ATT modems which corrupt the packets before decoding, therefore increasing the packet error rates that require frequent resends, which, of course, cuts down our data bandwidth. When the noise gets real bad, then the modem basically quits functioning. This goes on and off during the day. PG&E is supposed to have their experts on site today to fix the noise source. More than you wanted to know.

Gregory

I'm bpwing out of Walt's graveside today... 1PM? I have sniffles and a cough that in saner times I'd place squarely on seasonal allergies as Mother Nature is behaving like it's Spring. My condolences to all who knew and loved him.

Scott O

Also from the old sandbox from BT:
"“No one needs a new Porsche”. Who are you to tell me what I need or how to spend my greenies? Socialist/Marxist alert!!"
I didn't say "no one" should buy a Porsche - I said no one needs to buy a Porsche. I really don't care who buys the damn things. It's their money - their choice.
Since they sell everything they make, I just didn't understand scene's bitching about the issues with the dealers and the factory. If there really is a problem, no one will buy them as no one actually needs them.

Scott O

re George's DSL issues - Thanks for the update. It was exactly what I wanted to know. We still have friends in Nevada County on DSL and I'll pass that along to them for the next time they start having problems. It may have even been the problem for us at one time. They had 3 bucket trucks out that day working on the line trying to solve the issue and one guy admitted they were just going to "replace a bunch of stuff" and hope that it would solve the problem. It did.
Credit given where it's due - when we had DSL and there was a major snow dump that took out the power for over a week, ATT within one day had portable gens out running next to the DSL distribution boxes to keep the 110 volts DSL system going.

Gregory

George, if the Nine move their modems onto UPS power ... might that help? Nothing terribly expensive, just a $120 box from Costco or Staples.

scenes

"George, if the Nine move their modems onto UPS power "

So the problem is coming in through the 'lectric? I didn't know it would make it through a wall wart.

Maybe a power conditioner is the thing. My guess is that a UPS just kicks the battery and inverter in when the power goes down.

scenes

"Only the very hottest whores can charge 'anything' they like."

That would be true.

I'm making the point that public monopolies need price controls, and I'm not aware of a good way of making your own power unless your property has a good drop and a year-round creek. Since they're midway between genuine free markets and full-on gubmint, you're bound to get a half-assed solution.

Reminds me of a story. From Viktor Suvorov about his time growing up and then in the Soviet Army (apologies for the length, but it's hard to edit, hopefully George forgives me, but this is the Sandbox). Government enterprise in action:

_______________________________________

The next morning, the Director of the Chemical Combine telephoned
to the Regional Committee and said that, if the collective farms did not,
during the next twenty-four hours, collect the free fertilizer presented to
them, the Chemical Combine would come to a standstill: all its tanks
were full to overflowing with excess fertilizer production and there was
nowhere to put current production.
There followed a series of insistent calls from the Regional Committee
to all the small District Committees, and from them to all collective
farms. Each of the fifty regional collectives had immediately to take
away the 150 tons of the fertilizer presented by the Combine. The news
that our own collective had been given such an amount of fertilizer free
of charge did not please our Chairman. Our collective farm owned
seventeen lorries, but only three of these had tanks. One was used for
milk, another for water, the third for petrol. Those used for milk and
water could not possibly be used for liquid fertilizer. There remained
only the one used for petrol. The lorry was old and battered beyond
recall. The capacity of its tank was one and a half tons of liquid. The
distance from our collective farm to town was seventy-three kilometres;
taking into consideration the state of our road, that meant five hours there
and five hours back. I was the driver of this lorry.
'Now look here,' said the Chairman, 'if you do not sleep for twenty-four
hours, if your battery does not pack up, if your radiator does not melt
with the heat, if your gear-box does not jam, if your lorry does not get
stuck in the mud, you can do two trips in twenty-four hours, and bring
back three tons of this bloody fertilizer. But you have to do, not two, but
a hundred trips!'
'Right,' I said.
'That is not all,' he said. 'We are short of petrol. Of course I will give
you petrol for three trips but, for the remaining ninety-seven, do the best
you can. Push your lorry with your arse if you have to!'
'Right,' I said.
'You are our only hope. If you cannot do a hundred trips, you know
only too well I will be dismissed from the chairmanship.'
I knew it. I knew also that, although our chairman was not to everyone's
liking, nevertheless his replacement was a bloody sight worse.
'Any questions?'
'Yes. Even if I do a hundred trips - without petrol - where shall I put all
this fertilizer?'
The Chairman glanced anxiously round the broad farmyard and
scratched the back of his head. Where indeed? 150 tons of liquid,
poisonous, stinking matter? Lenin's birthday is in April, worse luck, but
the fertilizer only goes on the soil in June. So where to keep the fertilizer
until June?
'Look here,' he said. 'Don't start nattering on about it. Get yourself to
town as soon as possible. All the region's farms are busy with the same
problem. Somebody may have some bright idea. You just watch what the
others do and then you do the same. Get a move on! And don't return
unless you've succeeded.'
I sighed, spat on my palms like a boxer before a fight, then got into my
wretched lorry and set off to town over the bumps, pot-holes and huge
puddles, which the spring sun had not yet dried up.
There was a long queue of trucks of different makes, dimensions and
colours standing outside the Chemical Combine. But the queue was
moving fast. I soon discovered that lorries, which had only a moment
before been loaded, were already returning and taking up new places in
the queue. Every one of these lorries ostensibly needed many hours to
deliver its valuable load to its destination and then to return. But they
rejoined the queue in a matter of minutes. Then came my turn. My tanks
were rapidly filled with the foul-smelling liquid and the man in charge
marked down on his list that my native kolkhoz had just received the first
one and a half tons of fertilizer. I drove my lorry out through the
Combine's gates and followed the group of lorries which had loaded up
before mine. All of them, as if at a word of command, turned off the road
and descended a steep slope towards the bank of the river Dnieper. I did
the same. In no time at all, they had emptied their tanks. I did the same.
Over the smooth surface of the great river, the cradle of the Russian
civilisation, slowly spread a huge poisonous, yellow, stinking stain.
Having emptied my tank, I headed again for the Combine and another
one and a half tons of fertilizer were marked off for our kolkhoz. And so
it went on. The work proceeded vigorously and noisily. Tens of lorries,
hundreds of trips, thousands of tons! Never in my life have I seen so
many fish. And I would never have believed that
there were so many fish in the Dnieper. The whole surface of the river,
from one side to the other, was crammed with the dead bodies of pike,
bream and other fish. And still the lorries came, in a never-ending
stream. And every driver knew that, if we did not succeed in emptying
the gigantic reservoirs of that huge Combine, it would grind to a halt -and
this would be a crime for which our unfortunate Chairman would have to
bear responsibility.

Gregory

"So the problem is coming in through the 'lectric?"

That seems to be the moral of George's story.

Bill Tozer

From the Canadian Border to Mexico, the Pacific Coastal states are school mask mandate free. CA,OR, and WA

https://www.dailywire.com/news/california-washington-oregon-to-lift-school-mask-mandates
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'It’s A State Of The Union Miracle!’: Cruz Mocks White House Dropping Mask Requirement Hours Before Biden’s SOTU

https://www.dailywire.com/news/its-a-state-of-the-union-miracle-cruz-mocks-white-house-dropping-mask-requirement-hours-before-bidens-sotu

Scott O

That fella in Truckee better move over - the street hustlers from da hood are wise to where the real money is:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-young-people-of-color-can-save-the-earth-and-build-wealth-while-theyre-at-it-11645831401?mod=home-page
This chap has the message down cold for his brothers -
"One of the most exciting experiences I’ve had in my career was founding Cloverly, a clean tech company that helps brands create carbon-neutral or carbon-negative experiences for their customers. This was the first-to-market sustainability-as-a-service platform, which calculates and purchases carbon reduction solutions to neutralize the environmental impact of every transaction."
Yep! EVERY transaction!
Nice little business ya got here - be a shame to have the public find out ya aint doin' business with us to "neutralize" yer carbon footprint.

Bill Tozer

So the problem is coming in through the 'lectric?"

This will not help the present, but back in the day of analog cable, there was a head scratching end of line problem knocking out a whole bunch of customers intermittently. Trips to the truck, trips to the (forget the names of the line boosters): trips to the headend, trips up and down the street looking for leakage or ingress. Every piece of equipment monitored, still no solve the ghost problem. Every line to House checked. No impedance mismatch, no out of bounds signal leakage.

Turns out it was a particular brand of cordless phones when those Jerry Steinfield big cordless phone were coming out and dropping in price. It was one of that particular cordless phones that was back feeding electrical pulses on a certain frequency that was the problem. Solution: buy the lady a new phone. Problem reoccurred, but for her neighbors down the street. But, this time we knew what to look for. Another of the exact same bargain brand cheap cordless phone was found. Go figure. A phone‘s frequency and AC wiring got foreign electrical pulses in the system.

Big cumbersome testing equipment back then could not do 1/ 10 of the functions a expensive hand held devise can do now.

The 22 bullet found in the feeder line off the truck solved another problems after months of ghosts.

Scott O

Looking back at George's post, I'm thinking the "noise" is inductive to the phone lines?
Yes? No?

Bill Tozer

Dr. Rebane. Thought I saw you today up at the cemetary. You are bigger than I thought. Pictured you as shorter, so the cameras do lie. I was about to introduce myself, but you and your bride exited towards the street, if that was you. Turned around and you where almost gone.

yep, I could see that man splitting firewood on occassion. I was too choked up to speak anyway. Went to introduce myself to Mrs. Walt, but could not get any words out. Opened my mouth and nothing came out, so I too walked away. What a beautiful family.

The ancients spoke about a friend that sticks closer than a brother.
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Scott, now that I think about it, it was one of those phones you plug the homebase into the AC outlet and the other auxiliary phones would use the power outlets for dial tone. And the name of boosters where called amplifiers. Then came nodes and virtual splits and new terminology.

Scott O

Bill - thanks for your thoughts of the service and your interaction with Walt's widow. I wish I could have been there. I probably wouldn't have had much to say myself. What is there to say that probably wasn't already said?
I never met Walt yet feel I knew him better than many I see on a regular basis.

Scott O

scenes 3:27 - "I'm making the point that public monopolies need price controls..."
I quite agree and am wondering what happened to the 'control'?
In 2014 Idaho Power charged .06 dollars a KW. Didn't matter how much or when you used it. Then the 'controls' kicked in. They deliberately shut down a perfectly good power plant with decades left of use and told the rate payers this was to 'save' us money.
But of course in order to save us money we needed a rate increase. Now we pay more the more we use even though that is the inverse of how most all wholesale and retail works. If we use more than a given amount a month we start paying a 'sin' rate for overuse but of course we are told by the same outfit that we need to buy an electric car. Do we then get a discount if the overuse is for a 'good' cause? Of course not! If my current 3 motor vehicles were added to my usage I would be charged even at a higher rate. Please save me from 'price control'. It's costing me money.

Barry Pruett

Love the dipstick joke!

Scott O

Bill 6:01 - "the other auxiliary phones would use the power outlets for dial tone."
Huh?
Dial tone comes from the DC power from the phone company. Are you saying these old phones were using the house wiring to communicate with each other rather than using a radio freg as they do now? Weird. I remember the old schemes cooked up where the internet would piggyback signals through the power lines. It worked great in theory but the transformers in the system rendered it a no-go.

scenes

" I quite agree and am wondering what happened to the 'control'?"

I wish I had more visibility into who actually runs utilities.

It strikes me as too pat an answer to say "IT'S FOR THE MILLIONAIRE EXECUTIVES".

In the case of PG&E, is it decades of institutional cruft that makes them a poor supplier? evil executives? impossible to satisfy special interest groups? incompetent government oversight? hereditary government boards?

probably 'yes', but it would be nice to have real knowledge.

Bill Tozer

Scott. No. The only electricity needed for phone was a 13 volt system for the phone ringer. For about 80- 100 years, the biggest change in the Ma Bell phone system was the change from pulse to tone. Phone was so easy back then that all it took was a four hour class, including lunch and drive time home. :)

I have seen some old old technology and items ‘As Seen On TV!’ folks were using I never saw before. It’s fuzzy up in the backroads of my mind tonight, but at one time there were phones that, as mentioned above, one would plug in the base station into the phone outlet and use the ac lines in the house to carry the dial tone to ac outlets in other rooms via the electrical lines. The base station’s so-called ‘wireless” handset phone would let you go about 12-18feet max.
I have seen some old stuff for sure using the same idea. Plugging a little devise into AC 110w outlet that worked as an antenna for TVs plugged into wall without antenna or cable outlets in a room. When they built those new outlets in days of yore, the modern home came with the wall phone in the kitchen and one tv connection in the living room. They never foresaw folks having tvs or phones in multiple rooms.
I have seen old dialup internet connections using the same principle with using the house’s electrical wiring to send the signal to a printer/fax machine on another level in the house. That stuff is all at the dump now.

That was before CAT 3, CAT 4, CAT 6 and 8. Nevada City still had old homes with the three wire, one of the three wires was a thick ground wire, lol.

I never worked,for,the phone company, but know enough how the DSL system worked and why it is obsolete. So, I ain’t offering no advice. Voice of Internet IP, true VoIP not the misnamed VoIP that uses public internet systems. Fiber was the game changer. Before that, HD was a game changer. Before that, digital TV, before that…….Community Antenna Television….CATV, which meant community antenna until people erroneously called CATV “cable television”.

Anyway, it worked back then that your could send dial tone down a long barbed wire fence on a long lonely road to grandma’s house. And it worked…Party lines and all. Some folks strung a line from Colfax to Iowa Hill and it worked for 6 homes for years. Just need 13 volts for the ring tone.

My greatest find back then was probably one of the first tv remotes ever made. On the kitchen table was a nice crafted polished wooden box about the height of a inch or two bigger than a cigar box. From that box (with a plunger on top ) ran a cord to the TV. Remember 5 clear channels was considered great back in the day. The guy using it would push on the plunger to change the channels. Probably Dr. Rebane invented it, lol.
The old fellar did not even know what a real remote looked like. I told him that when his antique tube TV finally gives up the ghost, his new TV will come with a wireless remote! Not sure he was ready for that, lol.
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Man, I cried so much at Walt’s funeral today I could barely hold it back. Caught me off guard as I have been to too many funerals. At the end I wanted to meet Jackie. Tried to say, “Hi, I am Bill Tozer.” I opened my mouth and just groans weird ass sounds and tears came out. “Hello, my name is….groan, moan, high pitched sounds gasps came out. I hugged the sweet woman, she hugged me back and held me and I told her that if she ever needs anything, even free yard work or help moving something, anything will be there for her. She told me she was not Jackie, but Jackie’s friend and asked if I needed a tissue. Opps. I did sign the book so in time Walt’s daughters and wife would know I was there.

Like you, I never met Walt, but I think I once was parked somewhere in his way and he let me know. :).

Paul's Stand-In

hile democracy is under attack in Europe, GOP plots to destroy democracy in America

https://www.rawstory.com/while-democracy-is-under-in-europe-gop-plots-to-destroy-democracy-in-america/

Gregory

toes 818pm

first, thanks for the report back from Bre'r Walt's going away party.

second, sorry not sorry , no such thing as "Voice of Internet IP, true VoIP not the misnamed VoIP that uses public internet systems". Voice over IP/Voice over Internet Protocol is the same sh*t... the endpoint don't care if it's on a public internet or private internet... just can the packets I'm trying to throw away get to where I've been pointed?

I was writing code and representing both US Robotics and Cisco at International Multimedia Travel Club (the joke name my boss hated) meetings for a number of years, starting with H.324 (over point to point links), H.323 (Voice over IP) and SIP. Used a prototype Cisco H.323 endpoint over Frame Relay back to the Cisco mother ship circa '99 for my phone in my home office.

Also Fax over IP which has another set of issues. I was fixing bugs from my Nirvana Silly address by generating a fax call from a really cheap fax machine over a POTS line, to a gateway in the bowels of Cisco in San Jose, which would IP over to another gateway in the bowels of Cisco and then out to call in to my second POTS line into a PC with a fax/modem port and I'd see the call progress from my periscopes into the gateways. It was the best setup in the company.

I never worked for a telco either, but it took about a year to ship gateways for the first million endpoints.

Gregory

btw
Temperatures aren't exactly plummeting but they definitely ain't going up:

https://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_February_2022_v6.jpg

George Rebane

Bro Walt’s funeral was proper and moving. The local veterans supplied the bugle for Taps and the honor guard for the three-gun salute. The assembled crowd was appropriately sized and several of the family and friends offered their ‘Walt stories’. The officiating pastor’s watch ran a little slow, thereby stretching the promised ten-minute scripture readings to over 20 minutes. I think that comes with the territory for men of the cloth; the watches they’re issued all run a mite slowly. I think Walt would have understood. Jo Ann and I had to leave after the graveside service because I didn’t want to pass on my cold to others in an enclosed room. I still have a bottle of rye from Ireland that Walt gave me on his return – I will cherish it slowly.

The nine customers at the end of the local DSL tree are now up and running. Both PGE and ATT were out here on our land with their bucket trucks this morning, having isolated the noisy power source to a faulty surge suppressor that was very old, leaky, and should not have been installed there in the first place. According to the PGE mavens, it transmitted both RF and line noise into our neighborhood. Because it was near our power meter and house, we were impacted the most. And this apparently has been going on for at least 20 years. Now we’ll see if the service survives the coming rain later in the week. Lack of internet for almost two weeks and getting a cold from the tech confirms that ATT is the gift that keeps on giving.

Gregory

George, congrats on your gremlin being found and dispatched. "Squirrel chews", the bane of my POTS and DSL existence here in/on Kentucky Flat, were always comparatively easy to get tracked down when the service got degraded enough for me to bitch loudly.

The Irish rye sounds wonderful. Bittersweet now, no doubt.

Bill Tozer

Dr. Rebane. “Bro Walt’s funeral was proper and moving.” Yes it was. When the Air Force representatives folded the flag over the casket and handed it to Jackie, that is when the stiff upper lip went out of the window. Couldn’t hear the stories about Brother Walt, save one. I will relay it to the readers.

Walt’s oldest daughter and first born had a flat on the highway and called Dad. Dad showed up in his pick-up as usual to the rescue and said to her, “You are going to learn how to change a tire. There is probably a jack in the truck.”

So, the daughter was out there on the highway jacking up the car and changing the tire, as Walt grabbed his usual orange vest and stood by watching. She said cars were passing by and some honking and yelling at Walt, seeing a grown man standing there watching a young woman changing a tire, not offering the damsel in distress any aid, the worthless bastard. (The worthless bastard part I added). She ended the story by saying that because of her dad, this is one girl that knows how to change a tire!

All family members (that I could hear) spoke of Walt being a keyboard warrior and by inference, loved coming over here. Although I could not hear as I behind those who spoke and they faced the casket, I caught parts of a story how Walt said to one daughter that she had to wait because he wanted to run and go say hi to those on RR first.

If only we knew how much RR meant to him and if only he knew how much he meant to us….me…speaking solely for myself. The three gun salute seemed louder and crisper than any I can recall. I was so messed up I could not maintain my composure…so I did not go to the reception following.

This one hurt. Been to a lot of funerals for contemporaries and parents, but this one got to me big time, more than any other. But, it ain’t about me.

Walt was both deeply loved and he loved deeply. Walt is in a bigger tent now. I love ya, Brother Walt. See ya again in due time.

Bill Tozer

Gregory. I see we have a difference of opinion here on VoIP private (superior) and VoIP the lesser. Hey, that was how I was schooled. Cutting edge, baby. Our team is red hot, your team ain’t diddley squat. Cisco Kid was a friend of mine. :) I will concede the point about the end user, since they don’t know how good it could be anyway. I only know one side of modem and could make ‘em scream at 50MB down when folks that 6MB was fast. Just give me something to work with and I’d do rest.

But, for some odd reason, just didn’t care to learn much about the other side of the modem, the dreaded customer owner computer devise. Still don’t. Just fix the sucker.
On the other side it’s, “Hey, where is the go-back button? Dang it. I watched a you tube video on how to copy and paste. Fake it til you make it. If you can’t dazzle them with your brilliance, then baffle them with your horse pucky.

A faulty surge protector, eh? “So the problem is coming in through the 'lectric?" The Ghost of Hind Tit Holler. Something about that word ‘lectric’ triggered something from way back. I knew a guy who was one of those model train enthusiasts, with a yearly tour of his backyard train set. He said once he had a problem and tore just about everything out, including the the little train station and checked all the wiring and replaced some connectors and still no workie. It was an empty soda can on the rails he didn’t see.
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Hey Scott O. Re: Inside 110w…forgot to tell ya what each phone plugged into the AC outlet had a little box/converter with a phone line attached. Same with dial up. Tiny outlet cover boxes to plug into wall and you got dial up in another room!

Don Bessee

This tells the whole story about creepy grampa joe. LETS GO BRANDON! -

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2022/03/01/oil-prices-climbed-higher-during-bidens-state-of-the-union/

;-)

fish

State of the Union.....eeeewww......Elder abuse!


THAT WRINKLED OLD PUPPET IS SCARING ME MOMMY!!!!

Don Bessee

OH the pain, the pain of being a lefty propping up creepy grampa joe -

‘A Pound of Ukrainian People’? 10 Brain Freezes in Joe Biden’s State of the Union Delivery

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/03/01/joe-bidens-stumbles-through-state-of-the-union/

;-)

Don Bessee

Well there is one problem with this idea, how do the addict homeless factor in? What will keep them out and from destroying it all? -

https://www.yahoo.com/news/newsom-announces-296m-green-grants-042433512.html

;-)

Don Bessee

HUH why for what?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/03/01/biden-claims-they-will-be-able-to-deploy-new-vaccines-in-100-days/

;-)

fish

Sacramento mass shooter wasn’t supposed to have a gun. His restraining order didn’t stop him*



So we've been right all these years......?



* from the reliably worthless and idiotically paywalled SacBee

scenes

In local news:

https://www.theunion.com/news/hearing-on-door-tiff-opens-elections-office-staff-say-they-felt-unsafe-as-recall-supporters-tried-to-barge-in/

OK, I get it. The 'My Rules' gals sounds like a complete harridan. It could be that the Petition People weren't 100% polite, although you couldn't tell that from the video. 'Say they felt unsafe' lol, no doubt. It's probably an employee list that draws from the risk-intolerant teacher population.

Naturally, there's a Hearing. Gotta have a Hearing. Burn up lotsa lawyering and judging time, everyone tell their official story. Hopefully more hearings.

God save me from the modern world.

fish

'What the hell is she doing?' Nancy Pelosi distracts viewers during State of Union by jumping out her seat, rubbing her knuckles and grinding her teeth while Biden speaks solemnly about toxic burn pits


I don't see what the big deal is here. A sane person might need a drink or eight to listen to The Pride of Scranton bumble his way through an extended address.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10569077/What-hell-doing-Nancy-Pelosis-bizarre-behavior-distracts-State-Union-viewers.html

fish

OK....my long term report on SFgate.com. They hate racists (everything though it seems....except Disneyland is racist....oh yeah...and burritos ....those aren't racist either except maybe from corporate burrito vendors! Looking at you Chipotle), feel that the reader absolutely must know that they all have same sex partners, like to eat burritos (probably to not seem racist), and, as mentioned earlier are really, really, really preoccupied with Disneyland.


What a waste of fucking electrons....

George Rebane

re fish 909am - I too was stunned by Pelosi's performance during the SOTU. Most of the time she sat there with an pasted-on exaggerated smile on her face that reminded me of certain institutionalized wretches who are given their periodic medications as they sit in their assigned chairs all day - watching but understanding nothing. Was this intentional, or has Nancy started her slide?

fish

Posted by: George Rebane | 02 March 2022 at 10:21 AM


.....or has Nancy started her slide?



The whole of the democrat party leadership seems to be in the midst of some sort of decrepitude cascade.

Bill Tozer

fish @ 9:09

Lol. Thanks for the morning chuckle.
“Some asked if she was 'OK' while others remarked that she looked like she was 'on drugs or drunk' “. She always looks that way, but a least she got her face to quit sliding to the side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf-frtZJu7M

Anyway, I could not subject myself to the SOTUS and having a less pain threshold than my days of Wine and Roses, I didn’t. Made me sleep better. Old Chuckie jumped the gun as well. Timing was a bit off if you ready to stand and applaud reading the script and Biden has a brain freeze. That one (of two) R Congresswomen who Raw Story hates the most became a yeller, lol. How disrespectful. Shame on her. That’s just doing a quick headline scan. I have seen enough, thank you very much.

We should have a designated person here to suffer through watching things like SOTUS and Kamala Harris interviews. I am not that much of a glutton for punishment, so any volunteer but me. Some blogs and websites have a designated NYT reader. The mystery reader.

Gregory

Toes
"Gregory. I see we have a difference of opinion here on VoIP private (superior) and VoIP the lesser. Hey, that was how I was schooled."

Did you graduate?

It sounds like sales and marketing blather to me.

Gregory

I kept waiting for the ceremonial ripping the speech in two by the Speaker.

scenes

"I kept waiting for the ceremonial ripping the speech in two by the Speaker."

The trick in a gerontocracy is to keep the speech thin enough to tear.

scenes

"Most of the time she sat there with an pasted-on exaggerated smile on her face..."

The proper term is 'rictus'.

fish

Posted by: scenes | 02 March 2022 at 12:32 PM

The proper term is 'rictus'.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cROY4m4Ftiw

scenes

To anyone who watched the SOTU, did President Potato actually do this? or is it just a BS Twitter thing?

https://twitter.com/JetsenSunday/status/1498850133319970816

Gregory

Xiden did indeed say "Iranian". I mentioned it to my wife who didn't hear it, but I did and added a 3 second pour to my cuppa Rye as a bona fide senior moment for El Presidente.

scenes

lol. We are about five minutes removed from a line of aged dignitaries solemnly waving as a parade of missile trucks steams by.

Bill Tozer

Gregory @ 11:28 am

Graduate? Yep, I graduated from high school. It was touch and go my senior year, but I refocused at the end and finished it. Oh, I passed the VoIP class. Can’t remember if it was a one or two day class. :).

I can’t code. Did fail the computer class. It was a bonehead beginners “how to use a computer class’ designed for those who may not feel comfortable with or never been on a computer. It was a last ditch effort to bring the resistant into the brave new word.

The instructor opened the class with person sitting at an old computer by saying “left click the mouse” to follow along. I was the only one in the room to not know what a mouse was or ever heard of lingo like DOS or ‘Word’.

There was probably five minutes spent on voice over private network verses voice over public internet and it was a test question that I passed.

So, yeah, it probably did come marketing or the boyz in the lab or the equipment manufacture. I am a college dropout myself. I am glad you are still involved and doing jobs and inventing stuff. That recent retirement of yours did not last long.


Bill Tozer

About last night

AN SOTU POSTSCRIPT

“And am I the only one who thinks that, with the plastic surgery she has had, Pelosi has taken on something of the air of a high school girl, as in this performance during the SOTU?

Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi and Kamala Harris, in close proximity as they were last night, give off a force field of weirdness.“

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/03/an-sotu-postscript.php

Bill Tozer

re: dipstick

“Translation from PolitiFactSpeak: This statement is accurate but terribly inconvenient to our agenda.”

‘More great moments in "fact" checking: Politifact gives Bartiromo a "mostly false" rating while confirming accuracy’

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2022/03/01/more-great-moments-in-fact-checking-politifact-gives-bartiromo-a-mostly-false-rating-while-confirming-accuracy-n452127

Well, whether it is 500,000 (half a million) or 595, 000 barrels of oil a day we import from Russia is for others to quibble about. The fact remains that the USA now imports more oil from Putin than the horrid journalist killing Saudi Arabia….Trump’s buddy. Opps, both are Trump’s little buddies.

show me kid

Pelosi has signed a contract to appear as the Joker in the next Batman movie. I mean, they were talking about a female James Bond so why not a female Joker?????

Don Bessee

That office keeps going a bridge too far -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/03/02/judge-rules-ny-attorney-general-cannot-dissolve-the-nra/

;-)

Don Bessee

The chi town version of tamany hall goes down -

Madigan, who represented the southwest side of Chicago for half a century, established a firm grip on power in the 1990s and used it to overwhelm governors of both parties, essentially dictating state policies from the lower house of the legislature.

A year ago, Madigan resigned his seat in the legislature after being ousted as speaker, following allegations of bribery involving the ComEd electricity utility, for which the company was fined $200 million after a federal investigation.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/03/02/illinois-democrat-kingpin-michael-madigan-indicted-for-corruption/

;-)

Bill Tozer

Wisconsin Special Counsel Finds ‘Widespread Election Fraud’ In 2020 Nursing Homes

https://thefederalist.com/2022/03/03/wisconsin-special-counsel-finds-widespread-election-fraud-in-2020-nursing-homes/

or

Wisconsin special counsel bombshell: 91 nursing homes had 95-100% voter turnout in 2020
“Election integrity watchdog Phill Kline said: "And now we have videotaped depositions and interviews with their family members saying, 'My loved one hasn't been able to vote for years and has been deemed to be incompetent.'"

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/wisconsin-special-counsel-report-2020-election-91-nursing-homes-had-95

and

‘Georgia elections chief vows to 'follow the money' in harvesting probe, prosecute if warranted’
Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger says next step is to get State Elections Board to issue subpoena targeting whistleblower who claims he was paid to illegally collect ballots.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/georgia-elections-chief-vows-follow-money-harvesting-probe-prosecute-if


scenes

"Wisconsin Special Counsel Finds ‘Widespread Election Fraud’ In 2020 Nursing Homes"

Well, that's quite a surprise.

I think there's a certain elegance to that. You provide a helping hand to guide the old folks in their voting, a form of elder abuse, to elect a man with obvious cognitive issues, a form of elder abuse, to be locally defended by a man who is mocked here, a form of elder abuse.

You can't say the Democrats don't have a theme going on.

Bill Tozer

Make to the War Within A War.

DeSantis created quite the firestorm by telling kids they don’t have to wear a mask if they don’t want to. Exploding heads time. Now that the Great Mask War is winding down, the real battle begins. Now, let’s talk about what you Lefties are teaching the children. They will not go silently into the still cool night.

‘Protesters Crowd Florida’s Capitol Building, Chant ‘F*** DeSantis’ Over Parental Rights Bill’

“But as pointed out by NPR, what the bill actually does is prohibit instruction on LGBTQ topics for kindergarten through third-graders, provides parents more transparency by requiring schools to notify them of any change in mental, physical, or emotional well being, and allows schools to opt-out of that if there is a “reasonable” fear that notifying a parent would result in abuse:

The legislation prohibits any instruction about sexuality or gender between kindergarten and third grade “or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards.”

….. “Still, the far-left, including President Joe Biden, have declared the bill to be “hateful” and homophobic — and many wrongly believe that it prevents the word “gay” from even being mentioned in any public school setting.”

“The vulgarity and the nastiness of the school protests, egged on by woke teachers and school administrators, really only proves the need for the bill,” Schweppe said

https://www.dailywire.com/news/protesters-crowd-floridas-capitol-building-chant-f-desantis-over-parental-rights-bill
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More from the Battlefields of The Great Cultural War

GIRLS ONLY: Iowa Bans Biological Males From Women’s Sports
'This is a victory for girls’ sports in Iowa.'
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‘University Of North Texas Responds After Black-Clad Mob Swarms Conservative Event, Forces Police To Hide Student In Closet’

https://www.dailywire.com/news/university-of-north-texas-responds-after-black-clad-mob-swarms-conservative-event-forces-police-to-hide-student-in-closet
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The flashpoint: Loudoun County, VA.

‘Virginia Groups Push Ahead In Effort To Recall Soros-Backed Loudoun Attorney’

“There’s a lot of ammo so we revised our petition,” Sean Kennedy, president and founder of Virginians for Safe Communities, told The Daily Wire. “From the sex assault stuff to the domestic murder that occurred, and a bunch of other stuff. We have energetic volunteers. We now have momentum. We’re launching this because we’re combining forces and reinvigorating it.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/virginia-groups-push-ahead-in-effort-to-recall-soros-backed-loudoun-attorney

The fringe minority is getting uppity


fish

......todays winner of the Punch Emery Award for Mindless Sanctimony™......drum roll.....



International Feline Federation Bans Russian Cats From All Competitions



That'll show em....!



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/international-feline-federation-bans-russian-cats-all-competitions

Don Bessee

Sorry to see this Dr. R. Not buying it. -

https://www.theunion.com/news/restrained-judge-rules-in-favor-of-county-against-1-person-sides-with-other-2/?fbclid=IwAR2innZPH9e9qpfNTm4vUhzSU4cLmQ8cT1pTEgUB5t8Gz58pIxje7JObLUE

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Barry Pruett

This quote is directly from the court’s opinion. “The court found [Adona’s] behavior concerning, as her behavior appeared to escalate the situation and was only marginally rational.” Marginally rational. In other words, she caused the environment for this crap to happen.

The actions at trial are within the lowest part of the threshold for behavior that would have allowed for a permanent order. It is certainly the least amount of conduct that I’ve ever seen a restraining order granted.

As to the Mattoons, Adona and her staff misrepresented the Mattoons’ actions when the county initiated these proceedings. There was never any force at all. As to the Mattoons, the whole case was complete bullshit in order to aid in Adona’s election. Ruining people’s lives for political gain and to serve a political agenda. Adona. Sick. Unhinged. And only “marginally rational.”

Bill Tozer

Well said, Barry.

“I am in extreme anxiety, constantly in fear, and my safe place may never feel safe again!, cried out the marginally rational public servant from the second floor. “There is nothing wrong with MY MIND! “ “I am now suffering PTSD”.

The punishment did not fit the crime, by any means. Justice was not served. The truth was revealed, thanks to you Barry, yet justice bugged out of the picture. There is absolutely no legal reason or evidence presented that any of the three posed the slightest of slight risk of a future violent encounter to any county employee or public servant near and abroad.

George Rebane

The first mistake we make is to think that places like the Rood Center and the Capitol in DC are 'people's houses'. We get daily evidence that these are not people's houses, they are at best government bastions where the people should enter circumspect and tread lightly.

Barry Pruett

To be clear Tozer, the actions at trial are within the lowest part of the threshold for behavior that would have allowed for a permanent order. I am not criticizing the court or the commissioner.

Scott O

"...and was only marginally rational"
In lay terms - she was irrational.
Charles Manson was "marginally rational".
Gotta love it. The court just had to pull any kind of a rabbit they could find out of the hat even if it was actually a skunk.
Meanwhile county workers have merely to "feel" threatened when citizens try to access a public govt building. They wouldn't last an hour at the average quicky-mart.

Barry Pruett

I also heard through the grapevine that our old friend (the FUE) likes my haircut. So, I have that going for me.

Gregory

I don't buy a word of Adona's poor poor pitiful me act, and I still think she was the slanderous sock puppet commenting at The Union/viafoura pages over two days at the start of the kerfuffle.

Bill Tozer

Barry. You make it clear. I do not contest the lowest legal standard threshold, nor did you ever hint of any disrespect or bias allegations cast toward the court or a commissioner.

I am echoing you that this should have never made it as far as it did. That’s the bully puckey part. File a TRO and by the time the first hearing comes up, cooler heads prevail. The matter is dropped by both parties, often by filer of the TRO not bothering to show up for the hearing. Have counsel relay a message it won’t happen again.

You pointed us all in the right direction, Counselor. You have protected the integrity of the court and the Honorable Judge’s decision based on the law. The court ain’t the problem here. You can’t city hall.

You gotta work with them, not me. ;)

Bill Tozer

edit: You can’t fight City Hall.

Bill Tozer

CDC stuff

Teaser: On Friday, the CDC revised its covid risk formula.
With this single change, the pandemic abruptly eased going from 90% of the United States in High-Risk Red to less than 30%.

https://twitter.com/covid_clarity/status/1498360349975842821/photo/1
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The CDC Changed Its COVID Risk Formula. The Results Are Stunning

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/the-cdc-changed-its-covid-risk-formula--the-results-are-stunning/_1/

Bill Tozer

CDC stuff

Teaser: On Friday, the CDC revised its covid risk formula.
With this single change, the pandemic abruptly eased going from 90% of the United States in High-Risk Red to less than 30%.

https://twitter.com/covid_clarity/status/1498360349975842821/photo/1
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The CDC Changed Its COVID Risk Formula. The Results Are Stunning

It’s a miracle!

jamie hebert

It seems there will be no guns for Ms. Teine Rebane for awhile. The community is certainly a bit safer. What a total MAGA style jerk she was to our election officials. Well deserved.

Since two of the loudest and dumbest big mouths on here are now silenced and in the ground, is anyone taking bets on who might be next to go? The average IQ is certainly up in Nevada County.

Scott O

"is anyone taking bets on who might be next to go?"
Well - if it turned out to be jamie hebert, I'd laugh my ass off.

corniglio

Since two of the loudest and dumbest big mouths on here are now silenced and in the ground, is anyone taking bets on who might be next to go?


Gotta be jeffy……500 lbs of cholesterol laden coronary time bomb just waiting to detonate.

Perhaps you know him jaime……?

Gregory

Either El Jeffe or his mini-me sidekick, Frisch.

Gregory

Barry...

Did you see evidence that the Diaz/Adona office was slow walking the recall paperwork?

The Estonian Fox

BT 4:14PM -

North Texas Univ - no mention that anyone was arrested. ... "A group of protestors surrounded the police vehicles containing both the student organizers and their guest and attempted to block their exit from the scene by banging on the vehicles and impeding their movement,” - must be the new found 'restraint' that police are practicing against folks wearing black clothing.

Too bad the LEOs did not require ID from the protestors. I believe the police said the protestors wanted to keep their IDs, to use them when they vote in the primaries, coming up soon. Understandable.

Barry Pruett

Greg. Yes. The clerk’s office had ten days to make very minor corrections to the petitions and Adona was more busy with mask mandates than her job. Definitely slow walked the petitions. Adona’s office even allowed one supervisor to file their answer to the notice of intent to recall a day later than the statutory equites timeline. She hates the recall people.

Barry Pruett

Dirty little secret from the Rood Center is that nearly the entire staff at the Rood Center wants her to lose this election with the exception of Diaz and County counsel. She has been nothing but a problem for the entire building since she got here from Washington DC. Aside from Diaz, she will have little or no support.

scenes

I'm liking the new campaign signs already:

************************************************
* Natalie Adona for Clerk-Recorder
*
* 'Marginally Rational'
*
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BarryP: "Dirty little secret from the Rood Center is that nearly the entire staff at the Rood Center wants her to lose this election with the exception of Diaz and County counsel."

Dunno what the point is of putting an activist in that slot. Maybe it's simply the famous Stalin quote. If they think she's a pain, I guess you have two choices. (1)The Rood Center is bummed that she gets the job (2) The person who wins has a troublesome employee. It's a win-win situation, except for the 'winning' part.

scenes

GeorgeR: "The first mistake we make is to think that places like the Rood Center and the Capitol in DC are 'people's houses'."

Good Lord George, what makes you think that?

It was never true. People are suborned into The Machine about ten minutes after they join it. The high priests of Amun represented the gods to the people, never the other way around. Librarians own the library. Forest service employees own the forest. It's baked deeply into the cake of humanity.

It's like thinking that the HR department has your interests in mind.

Bill Tozer

Estonian Fox @ 4:29 am

re: ‘No mention of anyone arrested.’
A companion piece which points to that very issue.

‘Campus protests shut down legal scholar, candidate who wants to ban 'sex-change surgeries' for kids”
One university vaguely promises to enforce student code of conduct, while another doesn't even hint at sanctions for students.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/cancel-culture/campus-protests-shut-down-legal-scholar-candidate-who-wants-ban-sex

Bill Tozer

Cornigilio @ 10:48 pm

What always has gnawed at me is the third option, not the FUE or Steven. No, not Dougie KKK. It’s the tai quon dao (tai kwon do) whatever floats your boat lubber and boycotted of certain eating establishments. Does not take being on the losing side well. I have located such a person and he is programmed to react to certain stimuli. But, that’s for another day. There has, in my humble opinion, always been the one (in former days) to watch Steven’s back, the self appointed first line of defense for Steven, aka, Steve’s butt-boy… but that too is for another day.

Then there is…..well…..I wish jamie would have elaborated on the two loudmouths (and dumbest) here that have been ground into the dust. Pick me, pick me!

Nevada County Right Wing Watch strikes again and I slept through it. Early to bed, early to rise…

digli

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 04 March 2022 at 07:53 AM

Not knowing the local cast of characters (excluding the proglodyte A Team that has graced these threads for many a year) I'll defer to to your judgement on who the "real" culprit may be. There was a feminine bitchiness to the comment that was similar...dare I say redolent of those uttered in the past by a certain Oblate Spheroid that still fancies himself a newsman in your quaint burgh.


PS - I did have a quibble regarding the claim; "It seems there will be no guns for Ms. Teine Rebane for awhile. The community is certainly a bit safer." While I have no doubt that George's daughter will scrupulously obey the terms of the restraining order, the shooting in the Arden Arcade area this past week should serve to remind a soft head like "jaime" that a restraining order has the value of used toilet paper in most instances. It's the kind of magic thinking that I've come to expect from the pampered and delicate white people that inhabit your neck of the woods .

Bill Tozer

digi.

No doubt there is that purple pimple gang element holding out in their tree fort surrounded by hostile and alien savages. Look who are the angry old white men now. :)

Bill Tozer

Now that things are settling down, here is the link I omitted from last evening’s Spoiler Alert @ 9:59 pm and 10:01 pm.

The CDC Changed Its COVID Risk Formula. The Results Are Stunning

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/the-cdc-changed-its-covid-risk-formula--the-results-are-stunning/_1/


Digli Jr.

Posted by: Bill Tozer | 04 March 2022 at 08:49 AM


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fish

************************************************
* Natalie Adona for Clerk-Recorder
*
* 'Marginally Rational'
*
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I could get behind this campaign!

Gregory

Adona judged "only marginally rational" on the job 3 March 2022
... by a judge!

This should be placed adjacent to any Adona campaign poster in a public location

Bill Tozer

Fish. Glad to see you have a new My Gal. “Oh Natalie, my Natalie.” Indeed, you are shameless hussy. But, live and let live and who am I to judge?

My broken picker always gravitated to the Marginally Rational boisterous high-spirited types, but with Tulsi, it’s going to be different this time!

scenes

"My broken picker always gravitated to the Marginally Rational boisterous high-spirited types"

Everyone I know who has gone through the marginally rational girlfriend experience seemed to vastly enjoy it at first (for reasons I won't wander into in this family-oriented page) and then rued the day.

There's nothing new in the world.

Gregory

Hmmm... any Clay and Buck listeners here?

I wasn't listening to it this morning but was in earshot of a radio for a few moments and I thought I heard a snippet from the 'judge' in the Teine restraining order case...

If it was... what was said?

fish

Posted by: scenes | 04 March 2022 at 10:22 AM

Everyone I know who has gone through the marginally rational girlfriend experience seemed to vastly enjoy it at first (for reasons I won't wander into in this family-oriented page) and then rued the day.


Reminiscent to the thrill you feel driving an Italian sports car off the lot for the first time......then the maintenance bills start to roll in!

fish

Reminiscent to the thrill....??


Reminiscent of.....Reminiscent of the thrill.....! Harrumph!


Interviews for an editor/reviewer will be conducted mid next week! Submit your resume' to our genial host!

Bill Tozer

Gregory. Nope.

My transistor radio has finally given up the AM ghost. I catch Buck and Clay podcasts in my free news feeds but haven’t checked today. Usually delayed until the afternoon here, but I will keep an eye out. Buck’s stuff is free on line…but I just wait til it pops up rather than download.

Last night, Buck was the guest of honor on Megan Kelly’s podcast and I caught most of a segment in and out of the kitchen. But, it was about his personal thoughts (analysis) to the question of why didn’t Putin win in a few days and is this the end of Putin…

It I find it, I will post it here….might be coming via FB, so be warned. :). Haven’t spent much time on his web site or Clay’s website and that little time has
not been in months. If I hear something that perks my ears, it’s usually live and have to wait a day or two to find a story on it. Gotta bring the receipts. Bongino always brings the receipts.


Bill Tozer

Reminiscent of.....Reminiscent of the thrill.....!

It’s only new once. Then you spent the rest of the time trying to recapture ‘the first time.’ Like a pair of brand new shoes, it’s only new one time…and for a brief time at that.

Don Bessee

Will creepy grampa joe thank vlad for all his help selling out to those mutha mullahs? -

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/iran-nuclear-deal-agreement-expected-european-diplomat

;-)

Bill Tozer

Durham had to respond….and he did.

‘Durham argues Sussmann lying to FBI mattered as Clinton lawyer pushed collusion claims’

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/durham-argues-sussmann-lie-fbi-mattered-as-he-pushed-collusion-claims

Bill Tozer

It has been quite apparent to me that the Woke are too far Left of the general Black community. Now, a little confirmation comes trickling in.

‘Black Democrats don’t like AOC’

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/black-democrats-dont-like-aoc

scenes

@8:05

"We’ve noted before the Democratic Party is run by a wealthy, mostly white elite that is far to the left of most black Democratic primary voters. Since 2016, they’ve had Trump to unite them. As Trump fades away, it will be interesting to see how the party changes."

They need to nominate their own man to represent white Democrats.

I would personally suggest Sam Brinton as the man who personifies their belief systems.

fish

I would personally suggest Sam Brinton as the man who personifies their belief systems.


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