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06 May 2022

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George Rebane

So the '2000 mules' announcement has gone over like a warm bucket of spit. I wonder if any of you will be watching tonight's premier of the movie. We have a little dinner party tonight, so we'll have to see it tomorrow.

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I'm a tough audience for that sort of thing. Whether true, false, or somewhere in between, books or movies on modern politics are sold to the believers and end up on the shelf at a thrift store.

To the extent that 'cheating' occurred, and for sure there was plenty of the legal variety, it was slickly done. The folks who run matters largely controlled the Trump administration and now are completely back in the saddle again. To change anything, I think you need a sufficiently powerful and competent counter-elite. Anyone who can fix an election likely deserves to win, it simplifies matters.

I was thinking about The Union editor's screed on fascists and communists and while those both strike me as modern (and temporary) bits of descriptive handwaving, it's hard to avoid the normal condition for large states, monarchy. By 'monarchy' I mean the normal sort, with competitive alliances on the periphery. The need for status and wealth is unending. The difference in the details is interesting, but usually revolve around the problem of succession and how it is carried out.

Sometimes you end up with a weak king on the throne. Better to send him the occasional child to fondle while the vizier handles matters.

George Rebane

scenes 202pm - With a lofty and pre-emptive denial like that, one should always be careful that you don't put yourself into the category of 'There's nothing you can say/show/etc that would make me believe xx or change my mind.' The world is full of people like that - reference the leftists in these comment streams. To check that you don't find yourself among them, it's always good to reflect and obtain at least one thing that could falsify your belief.

In the case of election fraud, what evidence do you require to increase (or decrease) your probability that such fraud occurred? You seem to have rejected '2000 mules' out of hand from a lofty perch. Then again, perhaps I misread your 202pm.

Paul Emery


George

Dinesh D'Souza is the Michael Moore of the right. He makes a good living producing films the Right Wingers want to see just like Michael Moore does with the Lefties. Did you know he isis a convicted felon? He pleaded guilty in federal court to a felony charge of using a "straw donor" to make illegal campaign contribution. He was sentenced to eight months, five years' probation, and a $30,000 fine. Trump later pardoned him so this book was likely a payback on his part. He's not a credible source on this topic.

Google his name and you'll get all the details.

George Rebane

PaulE 248pm - Paul, you are so predictable. Never consider the message; your knowing and approving/disapproving the source is sufficient for you to adopt your calcified position about the message. Please also refer to my 247pm.

Paul Emery

George

I believe the message was pre determined by D'Souza as payback for Trump who pardoned him for a felony. In your wildest imagination can you see him being critical of Trumps screed about the election?

Barry Pruett

My wife wants to see it more than me, and she is fairly apolitical.

Barry Pruett

Paul. That’s an awfully narrowminded view related to judging the messenger instead of the message. I would expect more from a journalist

George Rebane

PaulE 315pm - I'll gladly discuss the contents of '2000 mules', but not the usual divergent BS on which you usually attempt to take your comment threads.

Paul Emery

Barry


It's highly probable that a film maker who was pardoned by
Trump for a felony, which is factual, would produce a documentary supporting his contentions, as unfounded as they are. Show me one credible criminal investigation that has come to any conclusion that the election was stolen and has recommend prosecution for those responsible.

Barry Pruett

Logical fallacy. Attacking the messenger instead of the message. Weak sauce.

Scott O

Psul - "...would produce a documentary supporting his contentions, as unfounded as they are."
Psul hasn't even seen the film and he is claiming the points made in the film are "unfounded".
Maybe Psul, you should watch the film and tell how it is wrong.

Gregory

Punchy only knows punching.

Gregory

I'm planning on watching 2000 tuesday... to give reasoned criticisms time to bubble up.

Gregory

The 2000 mules numbers seem to jibe with John Lotts' estimate of excess votes in the swing states

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"'There's nothing you can say/show/etc that would make me believe xx or change my mind.'"

If I sound lofty, it's mostly for the sake of brevity.

I think it's reasonable to assume that there were beaucoup shenanigans, especially in urban areas. Granny farming is a thing, and any urban area is bound to be targeted simply due to the mechanics of voting. There's no need to convince, I think I'm just less outraged than most by cheating. It's like being surprised by the chicaneries in trade unions.

It's pretty obvious that the progressives and allied (mostly ethnicity-based) groups are on a jihad, so anything is allowed as it's for a good cause. A person can get a better flavor of the thing by randomly driving around Twitter, Reddit, TikTok, etc. Arguing with Psul is like arguing with Statler and Waldorf. While social media isn't 100% of people (or even the majority), it's the active minority.

I still think it's safe to say that conservatives need an in-place counter-elite to get anywhere. If you've lost control of media, banking, government, education, even placing a President doesn't mean much. The internet has accelerated centralization. Democrats and some Republicans desire centralization. In a country filled with risk-averse, non self-sufficient consumers, it's hard to get any traction for decentralization.

In the final analysis, maybe the only freedom left will be the ability to laugh at a lipstick-wearing Asst. Secretary of Energy who buggers trussed up young men in dog suits and brags about it. Going forward, that laughter will need to be kept more quiet of course.

My point? None really, just idle chat.

Paul Emery


You guys crack me up. You are still chanting The Election Was Stolen with Trump as your bandleader. That is so 2021. Its a new era, catch up or drift away into history.

Gregory

Not stolen, punch. Sold.

Paul Emery

Sure if you prefer that Gregory go for it. Doesn't really matter. Who was the seller and who was the buyer by the way?

Scott O

"who was the buyer by the way?"
You, Punchy.
Happy with your purchase?
A lying perv who's destroying our economy and getting us into a war.

Don Bessee

Could this be because the university industrial complex wants them to think the inflated expectation is true because it helps them willingly pay outrageous sums for a questionable diploma? -

Today's college students expect to make about $103,880 in their first post-graduation job, a survey suggests. But the reality is much lower – as the average starting salary is actually about half that at $55,260, statistics show.

The survey, conducted by Real Estate Witch, found that, across all majors and institutions, undergraduate students overestimate their starting salaries by 88%. And 1 in 3 worry that they won't make enough money to live comfortably after graduation

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/finance/news/college-students-expect-103-880-174631015.html

;-)

Gregory

punchy,

the election was purchased by mark zuckerbucks for a little less than 1/2 billion usd.

a bargain.

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re: Gregory@10:23PM

You have to admit that the Zuckerberg election push, and you don't need much to gain the Presidency, was pretty slick.

Between the 17 intelligence agencies, the tech oligarchs' control of speech and financial flow, grooming K-12 teachers, and the 'mostly peaceful' street armies, the Democrats seem pretty firmly in control. I'm not at all certain how one would counter all this. Authoritarians are always more coordinated in the seizing and running of things. We can always fight Eastasia if the herd gets unruly.

Lacking a New World to move to to escape the Woke Empire, it's a bummer that Musk isn't further along in his efforts. Maybe some kind of emergent AI will play 52 card pickup with society, but the last 10% takes 90% of the work.

Gregory

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Indeed.

Don Bessee

The navy is getting back to its normal business and ditching the divisive woke bullshit -

US Navy chief quietly takes woke books off the reading list
Gilday said the goal of the program is to foster the continued education and growth of sailors

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-navy-chief-updated-reading-program-list

;-)

Paul Emery


Classic censorship. One can argue that you surrender to those forces if you voluntarily join the Navy.

Don Bessee

Flying that freak flag high today oh great ponytail of ignorance, its a recommended reading list so be so kind as to explain how censorship comes into play? Perhaps consider leaving the device alone its becoming embarrassing to watch.

;-)

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re: DonB@2:59PM

Huh. Kind of surprised that Mahan's book on sea power isn't on the list, maybe Luttwak's general book on strategy. But jeesh, a person could fill a warehouse with pertinent books. The O'Brian novels would be a good break from lord-knows how many manuals and training books those poor dudes have to scan. It's funny how little you really know when you look at the sheer mass of reading that's out there. Everyone is ignorant and the old is jettisoned for new shiny works.

'Classic censorship'. lol. Like *not* including a book, of all the books in the world, on a twelve book list is 'censorship'. Back to your room Psul. No dinner.

The Estonian Fox

Why is it always the "tolerant folks" who try to use force to deny a conservative opinion?

https://triblive.com/local/accusations-of-russian-spying-vandalism-and-ethnic-intimidation-rattle-shadyside-neighborhood/

Ethnic intimidation in an upscale, liberal neighborhood.

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re: EF@4:28AM

I like the sign in front.

You do have to wonder about all the Progressives who want to go to war with Eastasia. Just who is going to do the fighting? Maybe the thinking is that you can wage a war purely with keyboards and money.

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GeorgeR: "PaulE 315pm - I'll gladly discuss the contents of '2000 mules', but not the usual divergent BS on which you usually attempt to take your comment threads."

lol. Dream on.

I can imagine your lunch conversations with Psul.

George: [several minutes of talking about the mathematics of uncertainty, the ebb and flow of the human condition, some theories on governance]
Psul: SO GEORGE, DO YOU THINK THAT TRUMP LIED?!

I see that JH Kunstler brought up the 2000 Mules (I keep reading that as 200 Motels) movie..

"...Hope abides that the November elections might set up a correction to much of this madness. The release on Saturday of Dinesh D’Souza’s documentary 2000 Mules does not provide a whole lot of encouragement about that. The Party of Chaos still has its apparatus of ballot fraud in place all over the country and nobody seems to know what to do about it (though the remedy is pretty simple and straightforward: in-person voting with voter ID). The evidence of drop-box video and smart-phone tracking of the 2020 ballot-stuffers in several states is right there and nobody in American life appears to be equipped to do something about it. The necessary equipment consists of two plum-sized glands generally assigned at birth to persons of the male persuasion...."

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/got-the-heebie-jeebies/

Paul Emery

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There's really no point in talking about the veracity of a convicted felon who owed Trump a big one in return for his pardon and did so in the form of producing this film. Hope you enjoy it though.

Don Bessee

Wallowing in ignorance is the stock and trade of the ponytail of ignorance @839

;-)

Don Bessee

So creepy grampa joe is the inflation king and destroying the rental market for citizens he really does hat Americans -

If Congress delivers more migrants, “We just will not have the capacity to provide the adequate support that the families will need,” Alba predicted.

But the 70,000 Afghans, plus the expected 100,000 Ukrainians — alongside the inflow of Haitians, Cubans, South Americans, Central Americans, and Africans — are also helping to worsen housing shortages. In turn, the shortages bid up housing costs for Americans — and generate extra wealth for landlords and real estate investors.

In many cases, several or many low-income migrants share an apartment or house, so allowing them to price middle-class American families out of good housing.

“Rents continue to rise at the fastest pace in decades, making housing costlier than ever for many Americans,” the Washingon Post reported on April 21:

Nationally, rents rose a record 11.3 percent last year, according to real estate research firm CoStar Group. That fast pace of growth remained elevated in the first months of 2022, as many parts of the country continued to notch double-digit jumps in rent prices.

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2022/05/09/bidens-agencies-spike-housing-costs-with-more-refugees/

;-)

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re: DonB@9:43AM

There's just a lot to love in Bidenistan. Having everything go wrong at once is kind of a tell.

It's always encouraging to check out the Minister of Truth
https://twitter.com/mazemoore/status/1522620554011938816

or the Minister of Nuclear Waste
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/02/17/16/54315437-10523529-Brinton_in_2018_teaching_a_class_called_Kink_101_at_The_Universi-a-80_1645116792981.jpg

lol. We are so screwed.

Don Bessee

The joys of socialist green shitholes and adams is not much different than comrade deblasio -

"When we asked employers what’s the factor that would be most effective in bringing people back to the office, they said, ‘Reduce the presence of the homeless and mentally ill individuals, and expand police presence on the streets and subways,’" Wylde said.

"There’s no mystery here. No matter what employers do to encourage [their employees to return to the office], … if we can’t solve the public safety problem," she continued. "If we can’t do that, we are going to see a long-term decline in the presence of folks who are willing to take the subway and come back to the office."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/crime-rates-keeping-workers-out-of-nyc-offices-nonprofit-group-claims

;-)

Bill Tozer

Don @ 10:38 am. Same with Seattle.

Downtown Seattle business continues remote work because of crime, not COVID

https://www.king5.com/article/news/crime/downtown-seattle-business-worry-about-crime/281-be38447b-44f1-43cf-a471-e52c0546897e

I can hear that Democrat poetry over the noise in Psutang’s noggin.

Bill Tozer

Don @ 10:38 am. Same with Seattle.

Downtown Seattle business continues remote work because of crime, not COVID

Bill Tozer PS

https://www.king5.com/article/news/crime/downtown-seattle-business-worry-about-crime/281-be38447b-44f1-43cf-a471-e52c0546897e

Bill Tozer

After 2000 Mules Premiere, True the Vote Promises to 'Pull the Ripcord' and Release ALL the Data

https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2022/05/09/after-2000-mules-premiere-true-the-vote-promises-to-pull-the-ripcord-and-release-all-the-data-n561949

Don Bessee

The socialist shitholes race to the bottom -

Dozens of homeless people seen using Seattle public transportation as homeless shelter
The video is described as 'shocking'

https://www.foxnews.com/us/homeless-seattle-sound-transit-shelter-video

;-)

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re: BillT@2:35PM

That would be cool, I'll believe it when I see it. It's like the famous Jack Maxey release of the Hunter Biden laptop that-hasn't-occured-yet. Ya can't have too many dick pics of the First Son.

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Psul: "There's really no point in talking about the veracity of a convicted felon who owed Trump a big one in return for his pardon and did so in the form of producing this film. "

I just assume that the current Administration is illegitimate. And, God knows, looking around me, they sure are incompetent. What can go wrong next? I'll probably check out the data if it gets released though.

OTOH, I just watched an hour long interview with Noam Chomsky. Smart man but a product of his environment. At least he makes more cogent arguments than Orange Man Bad, but I imagine that it's smarter to spend time making money as a concert promoter than to waste it forming decent points on a random internet blog.

Bill Tozer

Dinesh D’Souza’s ‘2000 Mules’ Movie, Alleging Voter Fraud, Makes $1 Million On Streaming Sites

https://www.dailywire.com/news/dinesh-dsouzas-2000-mules-movie-alleging-voter-fraud-makes-1-million-on-streaming-sites

It has been heavily discredited. :)

Don Bessee

No wmd's eh -

US scientists say they have discovered what caused thousands of soldiers who served in the 1991 Gulf War to fall sick with mysterious symptoms.

They have pinned the blame on the nerve agent sarin, which was released into the air when caches of Iraqi chemical weapons were bombed.

Many veterans have complained of a range of debilitating symptoms which developed after their service.

Sarin is usually deadly, but lead researcher Dr Robert Haley said the gas that soldiers were exposed to in Iraq was diluted, and so not fatal.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-61398886

;-)

Don Bessee

Cali gun grabbers lose another one -

A federal appeals court struck down a California law prohibiting sales of semiautomatic firearms to anyone under 21 years of age, according to a decision filed Wednesday.

The law, which had been in effect since July 1, 2021, also restricted purchases of semiautomatic weapons to one per month for all ages.

Judge Ryan D. Nelson of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals said in his opinion that the law infringed on the Second Amendment rights of those ages 18 to 21.

“America would not exist without the heroism of the young adults who fought and died in our revolutionary army. Today we reaffirm that our Constitution still protects the right that enabled their sacrifice: the right of young adults to keep and bear arms,” Nelson wrote.

Judge Kenneth K. Lee concurred, writing, “We cannot allow good intentions to trump an enumerated and ‘fundamental right’ deeply rooted in the history and tradition of this country.”

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/court-strikes-down-california-ban-000913810.html?.tsrc=fp_deeplink

;-)

Barry Pruett

http://barrypruett.blogspot.com/2022/05/nevada-county-election-office-ballot.html

The ballot for my mother-in-law (who has Alzheimer's) was magically sent to an address at which she has not lived for over five years. If you have any problems or know of someone who has problems, email me so that we can document the issues.

Don Bessee

Thanks creepy grampa joe -

Wholesale inflation climbs 11% in April, remaining near 40-year high

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/wholesale-prices-producer-inflation-april-2022

;-)

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