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06 July 2022

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Gregory

Punchy 939p

"American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and "
Gynecologists"
As opposed to what, pro-death guitarists?

They have 1A rights, too.

Scott O

After Paul lets us in on his solution to the 'assault rifle' problem, he can tell us how to deal with 'assault traffic cones'. They can be used repeatedly to kill.
It's not the weapons, folks - it's the folks.
We don't have a fire arms problem we have a societal problem. But very few want to deal with it.
https://news.yahoo.com/73-old-man-dies-group-030600307.html

psfish

Posted by: psul Emery | 09 July 2022 at 09:39 PM


Been really busy fish. Someday soon


The siren song of the hippy. “Get a job? Way too busy man!”

Too busy to post a follow up on a topic you whined about for a week straight but plenty of time to complain about Bills comment regarding your true love…. a poll.

Sounds about right….

Bill Tozer

Paul Emery.

Because you are a fellow human being that was not aborted and you deserve all the dignity a fellow pilgrim is warranted, I will respond to your reply to mer.

I have posted polling and surveys well before SCOTUS returned Roe to the State governments where one’s local representatives can decide abortion rules vis their local elected officials. The question of abortion limits/rules differs from person to person.

The bumper sticker slogans of the far left in nut shelled as “my body my choice” and “right to choose”. “ Keep your male hands off my body”. Far enough.

But, my good man who was fastened in the womb by our Creator, there are move nuisances that bumper sticker slogans. The majority off folks say they are for abortion. But, when broken down to weeks or months, one gets a vastly different picture. You yourself once said you are ok with the first 13 weeks to terminate the pregnancy. It’s alright if you or I have changed our minds as more facts are presented. PS: God does not make junk. We are wonderfully made.

The right to abortion in Ohio from their laws just pasted means all nine months, including the moment of birth. The second of birth. Perhaps even post-birth.

The right to abortion in many Western European countries means 13 weeks. The Netherlands and Sweden is 15 weeks if memory serves me correctly. Liberal France? 13 weeks. British? Germany? All around the end of the first trimester.

The polls for years in the USA have remained consistent, with so me ups and downs. A small majority has been for pro-abortion. Now it’s about 60%. When asked about late term abortion, the huge majority of our fellow citizens are Devi its opposed. Like 80% consider late term abortion wretched and akin to murder. You yourself. I assume, are not advocating killing the unborn child during the last month(s) of pregnancy. The unborn child has unique DNA, fingerprints, lungs, heartbeat and can survive outside the womb.

BTW, Fetus, from the Latin foetus, an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception. Surely you do not cry out for a woman’s right to choose when the fetus (unborn human child) is that far along in development. To me, that is pro-death. Murder. Killing of the most vulnerable among us.

“Baby killers”, just like the Lefty asshats that spit on and called our returning young men from Vietnam. Baby killers, spit, spit, baby killers! Those are YOUR people, the kind you like to hang with.

So yes, many polls claim 54-56-60% of folks support abortion…..in the first trimester, some 15 weeks like Mississippi. That is all you got. During the 4th-6th month, support falls below 50%, down into the 40s. Months 7,8, 9…..well, it is simply to horrifying to even dwell on. Baby killers they be. Baby killers. I am pro-life. No apologies, no changing my mind. If you are for day of birth execution, then that is on your conscience.

The polls that have Biden’s numbers below Trump’s lowest numbers are polls that have traced the same question for years of since they started tracking….not RCP. RCP is behind and will catch up.


Paul Emery

Bill writes:

"But, my good man who was fastened in the womb by our Creator"

Don't inflict on us your religious beliefs Bill when it comes to making laws. You have the perfect right to live by any religious inspirations that may inhabit you but don't force those, through the power of law, on us that don't share those beliefs Americans have freedom FROM religion in case you haven't heard.

Don Bessee

The ponytail of ignorance forgets or does not know the declaration of independence says -

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

;-)

Gregory

punchy 106p

So, in your world free of religion, at what age (in weeks after conception) is an unborn bambino safe? All ye, all ye, outs in free?

In my world free of religion, somewhere between 10 and 15 weeks sounds about right. Not that I'd want any fetus sharing my DNA meeting that fate... and older than that, I would hope a hospital ethics committee including an advocate for the unborn would have a say, in much the same way a separation of conjoined twins might be handled.

Paul Emery

So Don can you show me where that "creater is defined in the constitution to include the event of the moment of conception as embraced by Bill as something that is will be enforced by the power of law?

So in your view Don and Bill a woman taking a day after pill should be against the law and subject to whatever penalty is subscribed in that law.

Don Bessee

What a maroon @144

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Gregory

punchy 144p

What DB said at 146p

It's impossible to have a nuanced conversation with a nitwit such as yourself.

Bill Tozer

I would never force my beliefs on anyone. I would fight to defend your right for freedom to practice any way you wish or not at all. Same with voting. You and I have the freedom to do vote for whomever is on the ballot or not at all. BTW, I did not vote last month. Like thousands of others in this county, I was not inspired or choose not to vote in the recent elections. No I teerst in the least. I was going to vote against Marginally Rational wacko, but I never opened the ballot. Had much more important things going down at the time.

As far as the law goes, it is the people who vote for our local State Assembly and State Senators who make our laws. If those laws are in violation of our Constitution, then they are tossed out by the Supreme Court of the US, the Article 3 judges. BTW, a bit of trivia. When the Constitution was written, the only Article 3 judges were the Supreme Court. Washington offered Patrick Henry the Secretary of State position, but he refused. Then George Washington offer Patrick Henry the position of Supreme Court judge, but he refused that too. A healthy distrust of the Federal Government burned in his breastplate before and after the Revolutionary War, aka, the War against the Monarchy.

The recent SCOTUS rulings for the Washington high school coach who prayed alone on the 50 yard line after each game and the religious school in a small New England state that SCOTUS ruled in favor of had a common theme:

That theme is the government cannot discriminate against religion. Your freedom from religion is your protected right, but no discrimination allowed against your beliefs or religious beliefs either.

Government cannot cross into religion, but religious persons are free to entet into government. The separation of church and state is a one way street, prohibiting the Government from touching religion, but religions are not prohibited from government.

As a good example, during the worse of the pandemic lockdowns, court after court, state and federal, ruled closing churches was unconstitutional.
Newsom was warned by the Court to back off his limiting the attendance of religious worship more than once. He gave the middle finger to the highest Court and disregarded the Constitution. Finally, the Court made their message crystal clean and prohibited any official, local, regional, or statewide in the State of California from restrictions on religious services. California was the only State to have a statewide ban on how and when people worship during the pandemic. We were singled out.

The framers of the Constitution were quote familiar with pandemics, the Black Plague, and other epidemics throughout history, being men who studied history for any and all examples to guide their crafting of both the DoI and COTUS. Pandemic or not pandemic, lockdowns or no lockdowns, government is not to touch or restrict or limit attendance hours, or frequency of the right to worship. The right of the individual to practice and e brace religious freedom trumps Gavin Newsom, Dr. Fauci, or any local or state government official, elected or appointed.

Because someone may be a devout religious practitioner (worshiper/believer) does not mean their voices cannot be heard or discriminated against by government. We are not a monarchy, a authoritarian government, nor a Marxist or dictatorship. All Communist governments restrict/prohibit the masses for freedom to worship as they please. No one is to come between man and his God.

Paul, read the First Amendment. Is speech mentioned first? Is press? Freedom to assemble/associate with those you choose Nope. Religious freedom is a very ingrained, complicated, and misunderstood factor in the founding of our nation. Most fail to realize how religion is woven through our founding, if not the primary reason during the 1600s and 1730’s especially up through to the Armed Conflict against King George and to the present.

No worries, Paul. No one is going to make you attend a Anglican or EpiscopalIan service today in GV or any church in Nevada City.

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Paul Emery

Well spoken Bill. With those thoughts in mind do you believe then that a woman has the right to take a day after pill and the right to terminate a pregnancy lets say for a start for the first 12 months.

Paul Emery

RE Gregory 1:39

You know Gregory I pretty much agree with you. I'd go for 16 months but that's a minor difference and yes some kind of process if an abortion is desired after that. Four months is a good length of time to make a decision. I also think this should be written into a federal law so it's clearly understood and universal.

Gregory

16 months is a year and 4 months... an awfully long time to decide when to kill an infant.

The process after 15 weeks I was discussing was not to enable a "desire" for abortion... it's to enable a medically needed abortion, truly for the health of the mother or to stop risking the health of the mother for an infant who cannot survive or some other dire circumstance. NOT a desire to stop the pregnancy because the mother (can I use such a word undefinable as it is by the newest Justice in the country?) just doesn't want to continue.

15 weeks is about the length of time to miss "the quickening", if one cares about traditional limits, and is codified by the Mississippi law recently upheld by SCOTUS.

Your Progressive buddies think anytime before birth (and a wee bit more), you know, the Roe decision. That's the horse you had hitched your wagon to.

George Rebane

BillT 220p - Excellent essay Mr Tozer. And to me your most cogent point is -
"Government cannot cross into religion, but religious persons are free to enter into government. The separation of church and state is a one way street, prohibiting the Government from touching religion, but religions are not prohibited from government."

Paul Emery


Typo-yes 15 weeks

I never once said I believed anytime before birth. Show me where I did. the reality is Gregory is that we are pretty close to agreeing on a way forwards on this. I see no where that Roe says woman have the right to an abortion right up to birth. Can you show me where it does?

Scott O

Paul - "I never once said I believed anytime before birth. Show me where I did."
And please show us where anyone said you did.
You voted for the lefty mob, Paul.
You might want to edjamacate your pea-brain what they want to codify into federal law.

Bill Tozer

Paul

Of course you have never stated that your personally ok for 3rd trimester abortion on demand or infanticide. You, we, are now old school. 70's thinking. The right to abortion meant first trimester and always the standing rule for rape and incest.

The only time I recall you being specific on the topic (and refreshingly no rope-a-dope), you said 13 weeks. That was we thought was settled law, a right created iut of thi air by a wrong decision by SCOTUS 60 years ago. I live with my regrets.

Things have changed Paul. The earth has moved under your feet. all of our feet. Gregory said it best. "Thats the horse you hitched your wagon to." Not your beliefs, but the Democrat Party on 2022's belifs. When they say abortion, they mean no restrictions, no reason needed ever, up to the moment of birth to decide.

BTW, the Dem's new cry about "something??" pregnancies is hogwwash, a BOLD FACED LIE. They are talking about tubular pregnancies. I had a girlfriend who got a tubular pregnancy. Sperm makes it way to the fallopian tube (sp?) and catches an egg coming down. Stays in the tube, a real risk to the mother. BUT, the future baby has zero chance of survi al. Zero. Science has not been able to tranplant or keep "it" alive. Thus. it is not an abortion of a viable living creature...it is a medical procedure to remove material from her tubes. Not an abortion and not restricted.

Paul, perhaps you should venture a peek into 2022 lefty platforms and party planks. Defund police...er..rethink policing, open borders, silence on black gang shootings, war mongering, New Ecomonic Theory, suppression of contrary views, a distain for State's Rights, ad infinitum.

Paul, do you realize that poll floating around that you objected to (pro-life biased poll) fingered you in the overwheling majority. You, me, moderates, conservatives, blue collar, blacks especially, educated and uneducated all agree that late term abortion is wrong. Feels wrong. Not who most Americans are.

Your 15 week abortion is not what the Democrat Party considers abortion.

You, by association, are stuck with the unenviable task of defending full term abortions. Its that broadbush that works on both sides.

i will answer your contraception question after giving it some thought. Haven't read one article about it or given it any thought.

i once had a very interesting discussion with a nice pro-lifer about his dire medical condition with no effective tratment. He said that stem cells from fetuses sre showing ppromising results according to Stanford Medical new treatments. could save his life...but he had a moral dilemma. Hard choices when things get really real.

Never asked him what he was going to do. Nor did I give him my two cents worth. If the stem cells were from the imbellical cord...but no. He died in time...before his time. Never knew if he had embryo stem cell treatments. Its between him, his conscience, and Divine Providence.


Don Bessee

Even cnn can like a broken clock be right for a minute -

Zakaria also expressed similar concerns regarding Germany’s Nord Stream 2 pipeline from Russia as President Donald Trump did during a 2018 NATO summit. During the summit, Trump told NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg that the pipeline makes Germany "totally controlled" and "captive to Russia".

"Western countries are still not treating this challenge as a paramount priority. The Netherlands has a huge gas field, but it is actually slowing down production. Germany still will not reverse its self-defeating phaseout of nuclear energy, the Biden administration is still making it harder to finance long-term investments in natural gas and oil,"

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnns-fareed-zakaria-biden-admin-harder-invest-natural-gas-oil-putins-advantage

;-)

Bill Tozer

Don B at 6:23 pm

Thats why we are selling our real emergency Strategic Oil Reserve to the Netherlans. The shipment of our oil (the premium highly coveted stuff known as Mid Weight

The last 5 million barrels of our finest grade oil went to the Netherlands, China, and India...in that order. The Netherlans? Mystery solved. Can't fight a war without sweet crude....American crude.

Don Bessee

The beginning of the end of touchy feely dem criminal coddlers? -

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/watershed-moment-death-driver-downtown-120000168.html

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Don Bessee

The chi coms are losing the handle on the prols -

Since April, four rural banks in China’s central Henan province have frozen millions of dollars worth of deposits, threatening the livelihoods of hundreds of thousands of customers in an economy already battered by draconian Covid lockdowns.

Anguished depositors have staged several demonstrations in the city of Zhengzhou, the provincial capital of Henan, over the past two months, but their demands have invariably fallen on deaf ears.

On Sunday, more than 1,000 depositors from across China gathered outside the Zhengzhou branch of the country’s central bank, the People’s Bank of China, to launch their largest protest yet, more than half a dozen protesters told CNN.

The demonstration is among the largest China has seen since the pandemic, with domestic travel limited by various Covid restrictions on movement. Last month, Zhengzhou authorities even resorted to tampering with the country’s digital Covid health-code system to restrict the movements of depositors and thwart their planned protest, sparking a nationwide outcry.

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/china-crushes-mass-protest-bank-030632450.html

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Scott O

DB 7:08 - "The beginning of the end of touchy feely dem criminal coddlers?"
You are joking?
Crap worse than this has been going on for decades. And the Dems just double down. Despite a few glimmers of hope here and there (some of the Soros DAs have been shown the door) but others just as bad slither in. It isn't as if they aren't honest about being soft or even helpful to criminals in their campaigns for office. All the lefty why-tees continue to vote for continued abuse.
From the article:
"“Speaking from the heart, as someone who is a homeowner in the city, I am concerned we have crossed the line where things are just out of control,” Whitehead said. “What is driving this level of violence?
“This is where America is right now,” she said."
No honey - this is NOT where America is right now - just the Dem strongholds. But we're not supposed to notice.

Scott O

Don 8:36 - I hate to keep dissing your posts, but dude - "losing the handle on the prols?"
You'd be amazed what a spanking the police can put on the populace. Just what are the millions of riff-raff going to do about the govt pissing away their dough?
That country has killed more of their own people than any other country on earth ever in history and they have the leading economy right now.
Not saying it's all peaches 'n cream for the CCP but they'll figure out which 10 or 20 thousand people are causing 90% of the problem and just get rid of them. So sorry - nothing to see - move along. How did that protest in Hong Kong go?
Very sorry - no more protest - everything good now.

Scott O

Well - we need to listen to the experts:
"The DIY gun used to kill Japan's Abe was simple to make, analysts say"
Ah, the 'analysts'.
Ya mean the average Joe that checked out the pipes taped to the wood plank?
Hilarious.
Once again, we see the morons confused because they passed all the proper laws and some people just don't obey the laws.
Dang!
Maybe if we just ordered everyone to stay in their home 24/7 we'd all be happy.
The bottom line in this particular case was that the folks guarding Abe didn't do a very good job and some nutter pissed about some screw loose in his head put together a 16th century shooter and got lucky.
And please - no jokes about "how was the rest of your day, Mrs Abe?"

Bill Tozer

2A- Daily Wire.

https://fb.watch/ebyDWMZPhX/

Bill Tozer

Since the J6 committee Hollywood production is buried in the posts, I will put this here.

Mark Levine nails it. Stalinist show trials and the US Constitution.

https://fb.watch/ebzOSSkcgx/

bizzy

.......busy....so busy......busy, busy, busy, busy, bizzy!!

Scott O

Forget Paul's solution to gun violence.- we have Michael Moore to the rescue with his well thought out plan.
Just make it a "right" to not have to suffer from gun violence. Some thug points a gun at you, you just pull out a piece of paper showing him your new 'right'. Why didn't we think of this earlier?
Of course there's a few other pesky details:
About 80% of all civilian firearms will have to be seized.
Almost all 3D printers and most all metal lathes, mills and other machine tools will have to be seized. Shouldn't be a problem.
In the comments we find an appalling lack of anyone pointing out the insanity of this proposal. I realize the proposal will go nowhere but it shows the inherent stupidity and ignorance of the gun grabbers. And they are still allowed to vote.
No wonder our country is headed down the tubes.
https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/the-28th-amendment

Bill Tozer

Everything the Deep State nation haters illiberals do is under the guise of saving democracy.

World Economic Forum: Gas Prices Must Go Even Higher — to Save Democracy

https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2022/07/11/world-economic-forum-says-democracy-is-dying-ditch-fossil-fuels-and-save-it/

George Rebane

re 846am - apparently too "bizzy" to end his comment with a 'close italics' tag. You're welcome.

ScottO 1100am - didn't see my 11jun22 update?

Scott O

Ha - apparently not.

Fuzznardo Pinch

Dr. Rebane @11:42 am

May I suggest it’s time to change the sand in ye ole Sandbox. It’s getting lonely over in the playground.

bizzy jr

Difficult to get upset about an errant html tag when Paul Emery is allowed to post here freely.

Bill Tozer

Bad bizzy bad. Berry berry bizzy bad.
———————-
Bad Committee bad. Berry berry bad.

7 whoppers peddled by House Democrats' Jan. 6 committee

https://justthenews.com/government/congress/most-famous-false-stories-jan-6-committee-has-told-american-people

Bill Tozer

Naomi Wolfe has come around. You go woman! Tell it like it is. 2A

The Last Defense Against Tyranny

https://intellectualtakeout.org/2022/07/the-last-defense-against-tyranny/

Ralph Underglass

Thats because she ain't good at anything.

Kamala Harris Doesn’t Want To Be in Charge of Anything

https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/kamala-harris-leadership-fail/

In others news, our President sleepy Joe delayed his trip to China so he could get some sleep.

George Rebane

bjr 1159am - Junior, what you missed is that not ending your italics with a < / i > tag (here expanded) continues ALL comments thereafter in italics - not very nice. I had to fix it for you. So do get very worried about your italics so I don't have to clean up after you. Thanks.

Don Bessee

Don't believe your lyin eyes they say! -

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/white-house-downplays-upcoming-release-elevated-inflation-numbers

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Don Bessee

The joys of the dems shitholes -

https://www.foxnews.com/us/philadelphia-juvenile-brothers-10-14-turn-themselves-beating-death-73-year-old-man

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/olympian-kim-glass-injuries-attacked-los-angeles

;-)

Don Bessee

The shadow prez is making the wrong choices at every turn and insulting the key community in much of the US hence the doldrums in creepy grampa joes approval from hispanics then there is the fact that they hate latinx as a descriptor! -

First Lady Jill Biden butchered the pronunciation of “bodega” and asserted that the Hispanic community is “as unique as the breakfast tacos here in San Antonio” while speaking at the Latinx IncluXion Luncheon in the Texas city Monday.

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Thank you Dr. Jill Biden, Ed.D. for clarifying that Democrats think Hispanics are “unique” like tacos.

However, I think you’re confused. We Texans love our bodegas.

Bowguhdahs must be where Joe’s Latinx puppet Henry Cuellar shops.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/07/11/jill-biden-hispanic-community-is-as-unique-as-the-breakfast-taco/

;-)

Gregory

However, the grilled fish tacos at mi Pueblo tacqueria in downtown Nirvana Silly are unique and to die for.

Bill Tozer

Don & Gregory. Good morning, rise and shine.

Hispanic Community ‘as Unique as Breakfast Tacos’ ain’t nothing. Remember when Wikileaks released the Hillary campaign’s top dogs referring to former New Mexico governor Bill Richardson as “Taco Bowl.” Then Trump immediately starting eating big delicious Taco Bowls smiling in delight with cameras zoning in on him, lol. Fun times.

“Isn’t anytime the right time for fish tacos?”—Johnny Depp, the only male in history who got the last word in with a woman.

Nevada City vs GV. Noble thoughts: Taco time. What time do they open?

https://www.theunion.com/news/noble-thoughts-home-sweet-home/


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Posted by: Bill Tozer | 12 July 2022 at 12:47 AM


Thanks for making me hungry at 1:15 in the morning Bill!

Gregory

Mi Pueblo Tacqueria opens 11am... less than 8 hours.

Gregory

150 minutes to Taqueria...

Gregory

Taqueria time t minus 37 minutes

fish

This is so exciting....like watching the ball drop in Times Square on New Years eve!

Scott O

George: "...and Trump to leave the field and lose his 'the 2020 election was stolen', no matter the merits of the argument."
I would agree, but if Trump were to be the nominee in 24 he would get my vote over anything the Dems would run.
We know that it won't be Biden for the Dems. Paul and the Dem apologists are using the 'age' angle.
Xi and his boys will have a pow-wow about that and let the DNC know who they should run.

Gregory

fish... you weren't there. Dr. Jill and I had a nice chat. ;)

confidential to gr...
how 'bout we go back to just telling pollsters who we support, or telling them to f- off as is my preference?

Don Bessee

The wokesters at starbucks who helped empower criminals now has to abandon the shit holes they had a hand in creating, too rich! -


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Hollywood & Western, Los Angeles, California

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Hollywood & Vine, Hollywood, California

Ocean Front Walk & Moss, Santa Monica, California

2nd & San Pedro, Los Angeles, California

10th & Chestnut, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

4th & Morrison, Portland, Oregon

Gateway, Portland, Oregon

23rd & Jackson, Seattle, Washington

Roosevelt Square, Seattle, Washington

E. Olive Way, Seattle, Washington

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Hwy 99 & Airport Rd, Everett, Washington

Union Station Train Concourse, Washington, DC

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/starbucks-closing-16-stores-across-181508972.html

;-)

George Rebane

ScottO 1132pm - So would I if 'Trump vs anyDem' were my only 2024 choice.

Don Bessee

What happens when your administration is staffed by a bunch of tone deaf wokesters, any normal person would have seen the problem with this BEFORE she gave the speech -

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/first-lady-jill-biden-apologizes-after-comparing-texas-latinos-to-breakfast-tacos/ar-AAZuhYC?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=43b0e45eb2124ab5a68dc61c1b495d08

;-)

Paul Emery


George

Would you vote for Trump even if he was a lying crook?

I voted third party libertarian when I couldn't stomach Hillary or Obama 2nd time around. Would you consider doing that?

psfish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 12 July 2022 at 02:48 PM

George

Would you vote for Trump even if he was a lying crook?


Why not....you joyously voted for Joe Biden!

Paul Emery

S

how me where Biden is a crook fish. Any current investigations happening?

psfish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 12 July 2022 at 03:21 PM

S

how me where Biden is a crook fish. Any current investigations happening?



Anything for Trump psul? I seem to remember big promises from a certain fussy geriatric....there were going to be impeachments and convictions followed by criminal charges and more convictions......! So far not much!

Paul Emery

fish


Have you heard of the Jan 6 riot that Trump helped organize?

Paul Emery

Fish

Here's a good summary from Politico about today's hearings:

"What ensued was the Capitol riot committee’s best effort to underscore Trump’s direct hand in key moments on Jan. 6 and in the weeks before. According to evidence they laid out on Tuesday:

Trump, not his advisers, opted to disregard evidence the election was not stolen from him, and the dozens of court rulings rejecting his challenges.

Trump, not his advisers, chose to embrace increasingly fringe strategies to stay in power after the Electoral College sealed his defeat — including initiating (but not finalizing) the appointment of Sidney Powell as a special counsel to investigate false claims of election fraud.

Trump, not his advisers, called for a protest to assemble in Washington on Jan. 6.

Trump, not his advisers, ad-libbed his speech at an Ellipse rally before the riot to ratchet up the tone of his election challenges, right before a mob descended on the Capitol building.

Trump, not his advisers, kept plans for a march on the Capitol secret, but ultimately directed his supporters to march on Congress and even attempted to go himself"

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/12/jan-6-panel-trump-direct-hand-00045470

psfish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 12 July 2022 at 04:28 PM

fish

Have you heard of the Jan 6 riot that Trump helped organize?


Has anything or is anything likely to come of this political theater currently underway in DC?


Will Trump be punished in any way as a result of this democrat circus?

psfish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 12 July 2022 at 04:35 PM


Here's a good summary from Politico about today's hearings...


.....yawn


You probably should wait until something actually happens psul.

Paul Emery

ALso fish how about this quote from Repub Senate leader Mitch McConnell-absolutely not part of the " democrat circus"


"there is no question" Trump remains "practically and morally responsible" for provoking the Capitol riot and that rioters believed they were acting on Trump's wishes and instructions.

"Former President Trump's actions (preceding) the riot were a disgraceful – disgraceful – dereliction of duty," the article quotes McConnell as saying. “The leader of the free world cannot spend weeks thundering that shadowy forces are stealing our country and then feign surprise when people believe him and do reckless things."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/02/16/fact-check-mcconnell-said-trump-was-responsible-for-capitol-riot/6767311002/

A similar claim was shared Feb. 16 in an Instagram post that reads, “ ‘There is no question that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of that day.’ – Sen. McConnell.”

psfish

Posted by: psul Emery | 12 July 2022 at 04:48 PM


"there is no question" Trump remains "practically and morally responsible" for provoking the Capitol riot and that rioters believed they were acting on Trump's wishes and instructions.



You really need to learn how politicians talk psul. A new world will open up before you.


Paul Emery

fiash writes "you really need to learn how politicians talk".

CAn you explain your interpretation of that quote fish?

Don Bessee

The cartoon is magnificent -

https://www.yahoo.com/news/heres-real-problem-first-lady-225823842.html

;-)

Don Bessee

Hey just for the sake of piling on -

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cartoons-slideshow

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/taco-tuesday-rnc-sells-jill-biden-breakfast-taco-shirts-after-gaffe

;-)

Michael Kesti

Paul Emery | 12 July 2022 at 05:24 PM

My interpretation is that none of the committee's many accusations amount to anything illegal. This supports my opinion that the committee is a kangaroo court whose reason for existence is entirely to throw stink on Trump and that this demonstrates how much they, much as yourself, fear that Trump might again become POTUS.

psfiash

Posted by: psul Emery | 12 July 2022 at 05:24 PM


CAn you explain your interpretation of that quote fish?


Been really busy psul. Someday soon

Paul Emery

Kesti

So breaking into the capital and looting and stealing from the offices of elected representatives and threatening to hang the Vice President is not illegal in your opinion.

that's just a start.

Don Bessee

Foolish is as foolish does @706

;-)

Don Bessee

So the idiots who created the crazy homeless addict tsunami and a crime wave that is crushing businesses so that even starbucks is even fleeing the jurisdiction want to be able to fire a sheriff that stands up to them and fights against defund the police blm/wokester if he does not kowtow.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/la-county-supervisors-approve-proposal-give-themselves-power-remove-sheriff-alex-villanueva

;-)

psfish

For they were truly the Gaffe Couple....



They’re losing it here in Massachusetts too, even though most of the attention is focused on the unprecedented catastrophe that is the Brandon administration.

On Monday, for instance, Dementia Joe Biden said that the Parkland High shootings occurred, not in 2018, but in 1918. He didn’t even correct himself. On the same day, his wife Dr. Jill compared Hispanics to “breakfast tacos” and mispronounced bodegas as “bogodas.”

And then there’s the vice president, who when asked by an interviewer about why the Democrats did nothing legislatively about abortion rights for a half-century, responded in her usual fashion: “I do believe that we should have rightly believed but certainly we believed that certain issues are just settled, certain issues are just settled.”

Interviewer: “Clearly were not.”

“No, that’s right and that’s why I do believe that we are living in sadly um real unsettled times.”


Who among us hasn't wanted to briefly stop by and grab something at the local Bogoda?


(Typepad isn't happy with the Gaffe Mistress pronunciation of "bogoda" ...keeps trying to make it Bogata.)

Michael Kesti

Paul Emery | 12 July 2022 at 07:06 PM

Trump did not break into the capital nor did he loot the offices of elected representatives. The hang Pence bit is no more illegal than any of us saying that we would like to kill somebody and then acting on it in no way.

"that's just a start. "

Keep trying.

Paul Emery


So Kesti you have no problems with those who looted offices of elected offices and chanted hang Pence? You are saying that it is not against the law for example to break into a newspaper that is closed to the public, invade offices and chant hang the editor as an example.

Don Bessee

It is such a target rich environment that its almost hard to keep up with the woken that infest the WH and then the bidens WTF if any Trump did any of this shit ........... Now back to real time WTF moments from creepy grampa joe -

President Joe Biden admitted Tuesday he gets confused every time he hears the presidential anthem “Hail to the Chief.”

“Every time I hear ‘Hail to the Chief,’ I wonder, where the hell is he?” Biden said as he began speaking to members of Congress at the annual White House Congressional Picnic.
“You think I’m joking, I’m not,” he continued with a chuckle. “[I] turn around and say, ‘Where is the President?'”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/07/12/joe-biden-every-time-i-hear-hail-to-the-chief-i-wonder-where-the-hell-is-the-president/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/07/12/mexican-president-amlo-lectures-americans-reject-conservatism-accept-transformation/

https://www.foxnews.com/media/fauci-admits-covid-19-vaccines-protect-overly-well-infection

;-)


Michael Kesti

Paul Emery | 12 July 2022 at 08:59 PM

You've done it again. I didn't say that I, "...have no problems with..." anything. Why can you not demonstrate the integrity required to refrain from putting misguided, illogical, poorly punctuated words in others' mouths?

George Rebane

MichaelK 920p - I believe it's in his DNA.

Gregory

MK 920p

Punchy just punches.

Paul Emery


That's reassuring to me then Kesti that you're not a Trump supporter. Thanks. There's hope after all.

Michael Kesti

Paul Emery | 12 July 2022 at 09:46 PM

You go on believing as you will, Paul.

psfish

Posted by: psul Emery | 12 July 2022 at 09:46 PM


That's reassuring to me then Kesti that you're not a Trump supporter. Thanks. There's hope after all.


????

Remember psul autoerotic asphyxiation only works if you let a little air in during your session otherwise it’s ….you know….accidental death.

How do you know any of these things? How do you know he isn’t a Trump “supporter”? Thanks for what? There’s hope for what?

Trump really sprung your mainspring didn’t he?

Paul Emery

Lets make it simple Kesti are you or are you not a Trump supporter?

Michael Kesti

Paul Emery | 13 July 2022 at 07:14 AM

You declared that I am not less than 10 hours earlier. Do you not believe yourself?

Paul Emery

Michael

It was my impulse that you supported Trump because you saw no harm in breaking into the Capital and chanting Hang Pence which is very Trumpian as well as expressing no opposition to Bill declaring he would like to take a crap on Pelosi's desk but you gave a ray of hope that you didn't support him. It would make things clear if you just clarified yourself as to whether you support him or not.

fish

It would make things clear if you just clarified yourself as to whether you support him or not.


Yes Michael....by returning and participating again at Rebanes Ruminations you must subject yourself to interrogation by a local man impersonating Matlock!


A "purity test" if you will....to determine whether you may be seen in polite company in the Nevada City/Grass Valley area.

Michael Kesti

You declared that I have no problem with these things and neither you nor I said that I see no harm in them. I see no benefit in telling you whether I support Trump and, along with your history of not answering others' questions, find myself unmotivated to answer yours. That may change if I knew why it matters to you.

Gregory

Throwing defamations large and small and letting the target struggle to scrape them off passes for debate in Punch's world.

Gregory

And now for something completely different... Paul, can men get pregnant?

Paul Emery

Just to answer a question for your convenience-no

Gregory

So Paul, you're saying trans-women are not *real* women? That's awfully transphobic.

Paul Emery


Gosh and Golly Gregory you're so smart and contemporary and I guess I'm old fashioned. Thanks for educating me.

Gregory

Paul, your hate and hostility is showing.

Are you saying being old fashioned is good?

Scott O

M Kesti 8:55 - "That may change if I knew why it matters to you."
If you don't answer 'correctly' Paul will act all horrified and declare you to be a disgusting person and will question why anyone would bother to pay any attention to what you may have to say.
Further, he will then 'assume' you possess all manner of hideous beliefs - none of which are true nor will they have any bearing on the topic at hand.

Gregory

SO, you done broke da' code!

Paul Emery

Gosh and Golly Gregory, I'm thanking you for educating me. I greatly appreciate your intelligence and scholarship in this matter.

Don Bessee

Speaking of senile geezers -

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2022/07/13/joe-bidens-israel-schedule-includes-long-nap-breaks/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/07/13/brain-freeze-in-israel-joe-biden-vows-to-keep-alive-truth-and-honor-of-the-holocaust-before-correcting-himself/

;-)

Gregory

Punchy 117p

You're lying again, punch.

Paul Emery

Gregory, I am appreciating your opinion that trans-women are *real* women. Your broad views on the topic are informative and evolved and I congratulate you.

Paul Emery


I'm off to work doing sound for Summer Nights in Nevada City at the Miners Foundry. Stop by, it will be a good time.

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