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16 May 2023

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Humphrey Ploughjogger

There was not enough evidence to support any legal action. Durham tried for 4 years and found zilch. The FBI made plenty of mistakes, as they always have, and have said they have changed their policies because of what happened.

To try to make Democrats culpable somehow in your intro for Durham's failing is laughable, and sad.

Great Divide? Not really. Just highly politicized rhetoric, repeated over and over again to the Republican base, got some all wound up expecting a victory that was never to be.

fish

The FBI made plenty of mistakes, as they always have, and have said they have changed their policies because of what happened.


Excellent point...I'm sure the bureau has taken this incident to heart and will make a sincere effort to ensure that it never, ever....pinky swear, ever happens again.

Humphrey Ploughjogger

FBI - Fucked Up Bureaucratic Investigators - check

I have been watching a couple of Waco siege series and they just make me angry at how messed up that was, along with the Ruby Ridge siege.

They both could have been handled so much better.

Psul the Magnificent

Total failure of Trump Administration witch hunt - headlines
...in a long list of failed witch hunts...

"The failure of the Durham report
Durham tried to prove a Democratic plot to frame Trump. He couldn’t.

By Andrew [email protected] May 16, 2023, 2:20pm EDT"

"After Years of Political Hype, the Durham Inquiry Failed to Deliver
A dysfunctional investigation led by a Trump-era special counsel illustrates a dilemma about prosecutorial independence and accountability in politically sensitive matters." NYT

"Steve Bannon Slams Durham's 'Epic Failure' in Trump Probe
BY KATHERINE FUNG ON 5/16/23 AT 1:53 PM EDT"

"FBI accused of failures but key report finds no deep-state plot against Trump
Agency ‘failed to uphold mission of strict fidelity’, special counsel John Durham concludes in investigation launched by Bill Barr"

"How John Durham Succeeded by Failing
For years, Bill Barr’s hand-picked special counsel kept Trump’s Russia hoax hoax alive.
David Corn
Washington, DC, Bureau Chief"

"Special counsel Durham blasts FBI's Trump-Russia investigation
Zachary Basu Axois"

The Russia hoax hoax - I like it!

Gregory

"Durham tried to prove a Democratic plot to frame Trump. He couldn’t."

But to the non-Democrats, he did. A problem Durham ran into was that any criminal trial would have to be in DC where the potential jury pool is 99 44/100 partisan Democrat.

Scott O

"The FBI made plenty of mistakes, as they always have..."

Sounds like a good German citizen in the 30's talking about the NAZI party.

The FBI deliberately lied to the FISA court.
https://www.judicialwatch.org/deep-dive-how-the-fbi-lied-schiff-pushed-lies-on-potus/
The FBI deliberately falsified evidence.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/01/29/fbi-lawyer-kevin-clinesmith-gets-probation-altering-russia-email/4072865001/
Probation.
For a law enforcement official deliberately altering evidence.
These are dirty cops.
The left waves this away.
Just like they did in the 60s.
Right?
Hey - the Fibbies have always been dirty. What the hell.
I know retired police officers and they have a different view of dirty cops and it isn't pretty.
But it's good that HP shows up here to give an honest view of what the American left think of corrupt police.
"Hey - as long as they target people we don't like, who cares if they are corrupt?"
Interesting.

Humphrey Ploughjogger

At least they revoked the security clearances of 3 FBI agents who were at the Insurrection, lol!

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/eve-hearing-fbi-says-revoked-032222929.html

scenes

Dunno what anyone is surprised about federal law enforcement. It's bound to always have a POV and is subject to take-over.

In a sense, 'law' is whatever you want it to be. The wiggle room is immense from the actual legislation, resulting regulations, or whether it's even enforced (ie: Soros-backed DA offices, election law).

I honestly think there's no point in George (or me) being upset. Politics is a code word for 'power' and I can't say that morality or existing rule sets have much to do with it. If a religious movement takes over a society, as we are seeing, you simply have to outwait it, invent your own religion to oppose it (kinetic or propaganda), or avoid it as possible. Depending on organizations subject to institutional capture seems silly to me.

The lack of organization on the 'Right' (whatever that really is, which is part of the problem) leads you to few options. Trump is one I guess. As a once-in-a-lifetime retail politician, he's uniquely suited to grab an office that allows him to fire absolutely everybody, assuming one House of Congress holds firm. If he ever became President again, my strong guess is that you'd see a putsch before the required housecleaning took place. The Fifth Estate (the US bureaucratic elite) has too much at stake to allow it.

Paul Emery


Gregory

You are saying that this statement you made is factual?

"A problem Durham ran into was that any criminal trial would have to be in DC where the potential jury pool is 99 44/100 partisan Democrat. "

Can you provide documentation to verify that statement?

fish

Wow psulGPT....it's almost lifelike.

Gregory

99 44/100% is hyperbole, Punchy. Off an Ivory hand soap package.

In reality, it's more like 88% partisan Democrat in DC juries. Might as well be vory soap pure.

Paul Emery

Do you have documentation to back up that statement Gregory?

Scott O

Here ya go, Paul:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivory_(soap)
Ever use a search engine, Paul?


Gregory

here's a sad day in Ivory history:
https://www.upi.com/News_Photos/view/upi/a2aacadae7ef7703c7dfbbca0ca015fe/Pornographic-film-star-Marilyn-Chambers-no-longer-to-appear-on-Ivory-Snow-boxes/

Bill Tozer

Hopeless confirmed again. When there are no penalties for wrongful behavior and malfeasance, then there is no reason to stop doing what you are doing. A very sad day for America.

‘The Unspoken Warning In The Durham Report: American Self-Government Is Collapsing’

https://thefederalist.com/2023/05/18/the-unspoken-warning-in-the-durham-report-american-self-government-is-collapsing/


Bill Tozer

Gregory

95% voted for Hillary, 95% voted for Biden. There is the jury of your peers.

Gregory

Perhaps Punch will chime in and explain why such a jury will do the right thing.

Paul Emery

Can you provide a link Bill? You're asking me to take your word for it. Simple question -Bill, Gregory where did you get your information?

fish

Posted by: psul Emery | 19 May 2023 at 08:11 AM

Can you provide a link Bill?


Simple response....you don't read links psul.


Scott O

Paul - "You're asking me to take your word for it."

Because unlike you, Paul - Bill doesn't post lies.

Gregory

I read.
I understand better than many.
I remember.

scenes

"here's a sad day in Ivory history:"

I see that there's a few on eBay. $50-$200 depending on size and condition. Nice.

It would make a perfect complement to the Ron Jeremy bottle of Nair.

Gregory

Now Punch, let's tunnel down. Just what part(s) of my assertion do you suspect?

Paul Emery


Warning to readers: fish is a fake name because he's ashamed to use his real name because it will embarrass his family and place of employment. That information comes from a reliable source. Everything written using that name or derivatives of it is therefore not valid information because it comes from a fake source I refer to as fake stupidity or FS.

🐠

Posted by: psul Emery | 19 May 2023 at 11:23 AM


Over a decade and that’s still all you’ve got psul.

Weak sauce old man.


🙀

fish or a derivative thereof

Posted by: Paul Emery | 19 May 2023 at 11:23 AM


Warning to readers: fish is a fake name because he's ashamed to use his real name because it will embarrass his family and place of employment. That information comes from a reliable source. Everything written using that name or derivatives of it is therefore not valid information because it comes from a fake source I refer to as fake stupidity or FS.


None of that changes the fact that you admitted to not reading links psul.

fishanthrope or a derivative of some such thing

Posted by: Paul Emery | 19 May 2023 at 11:23 AM


It's also a great distraction from having to respond to Gregorys 11:21a.

Gregory

punch 1123a

"Warning to readers: fish is a fake name because he's ashamed to use his real name because it will embarrass his family and place of employment"

Warning to readers... if you write anything that Punch doesn't like and you sign your name, Punch will likely try to embarrass you at home and at work.

Psul the Magnificant

"Perhaps Punch will chime in and explain why such a jury will do the right thing."

We can see that Gregory should never be selected to be a juror.

Gregory

I have been selected to be a juror, multiple times. In fact, I can't remember not being empaneled after being questioned in court.

Yes, I knew how to answer to get out of it, but I chose honesty. Even copped to my favorite grandfather having multiple DUI's being an occupational hazard (he was a lifelong brewer) and got a laugh out of everyone. That was a DUI trial in Nirvana Silly.

Psul's Fanboi

Warning to readers: Psul the Magnificant (sic) is a fake name because he's ashamed to use his real name because it will embarrass his family and place of employment. That information comes from a reliable source. Everything written using that name or derivatives of it is therefore not valid information because it comes from a fake source I refer to as fake stupidity or FS.

Psul the Magnificent

"I have been selected to be a juror, multiple times."

What? Pump the brakes!

And did you vote impartially as a juror?

How is that possible?

Paul Emery

Gregory

You wrote this: "In reality, it's more like 88% partisan Democrat in DC juries."

Where did you get the 88% partisan Democrat in DC juries" number which you quote as a fact?

Gregory

Looking afresh,
https://www.washingtonpost.com/election-results/2022/district-of-columbia/


Any more questions?

Paul Emery


No Gregory. just wondering what the factual basis was for your contention. Should not be a big deal for you to come up with it.

Gregory

Punchy, had you followed the link you'd hàve seem the info you were pestering me for.


Don Bessee

#sadolman @633

;-)

Scott O

Well, I can see that once again the lefty pigs have dragged the subject down into the muddy sty where they reside.

Cereal Liar

Scott 845pm "once again the lefty pigs have dragged the subject down into the muddy sty"

Hopelessness Confirmed Again? LoL!

Scott O

Serial Liar - "Hopelessness Confirmed Again? LoL!"

Between the baseless insults and Paul's infantile beating of a dead horse, the leftys usually degrade a conversation into the mud. It probably is hopeless.
Not to worry - since the left has gone stark raving mad and can't seem to admit it, I'll move on - it's Sat and the the week in pictures is always good for a laugh.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/05/the-week-in-pictures-f-men-edition.php

George Rebane

Please keep your comments on topic for posts with a theme. The sandbox is ideal for going after each other's character, morals, values, etc.

fish or a dy/dx

Posted by: George Rebane | 20 May 2023 at 10:00 AM


I do try George but when your soft headed lunch companion makes his oft repeated claim about me


Warning to readers: fish is a fake name because he's ashamed to use his real name because it will embarrass his family and place of employment. That information comes from a reliable source. Everything written using that name or derivatives of it is therefore not valid information because it comes from a fake source I refer to as fake stupidity or FS.



....it really demands response.

Paul Emery

Once again a post by "fish" who is now begging for help from RR's founder when in fact he is only once again admitting that he won't use his real name because it will be an embarrassment to his family and friends. It's really simple. if you have an opinion use your real name and be proud of it not embarrassed like fish is. This is especially true if you use this blog to question someones integrity like he does to me and won't do it in his real name. And yes, this goes to those of other political persuasions as well.

Years ago "fish" revealed his reason for using a fake name so what's so difficult in repeating those reasons? It was so long ago I don't recall what they were and newer readers did not see them. .

D(fish)

Posted by: Paul Emery | 20 May 2023 at 10:31 AM


Begging....hardly.....although I'm sure to the hippy sensibilities lurking inside you it looks like it. More's the pity!

And I'm sorry psul I can't be responsible for your memory problems! Have you even spoken to a physician or therapist about these issues?

Perhaps it's time.....

Scott O

More from the Durham report:
https://nypost.com/2023/05/19/how-obama-officials-fbi-squashed-any-investigation-into-hillary-clinton/
It's pretty much what we suspected all along.

f'(fish)

Posted by: Scott O | 20 May 2023 at 10:45 AM

Not a single indictment.....Imperial Washington protects its own.

I wonder how the operators and slicky bois that constitute the Washington elite feel about having their sweet, sweet gig threatened by a couple of hick grifters like the Clintons? Going on 30 years now.....embarrassing.

Paul Emery

fishhole

Memory problems about a casual remark you claim to have made 7 or 8 years ago? Really. what is so bad about repeating it for newer readers? If it was important then why isn't it now and what are you trying to hide?

Scott O

re the Clintons. He might have started out as a hick, but hooking up with a venomous Chicago snake paid off. I wouldn't doubt it was her idea to grab all that FBI dirt on nearly a thousand DC movers and shakers for some of the best political insurance that money couldn't have bought them.

Gregory

punchy 633pm

"No Gregory. just wondering what the factual basis was for your contention. Should not be a big deal for you to come up with it."

It should not have been a big deal for you to accept that the DC voter rolls were 99 44/100% partisan Democrats... or as close to it as needed to insure that prosecutions of Democrat's criminal malfeasance at the Federal level will not risk being found guilty.

The derivative formerly known as fish

Posted by: Paul Emery | 20 May 2023 at 11:33 AM


You seem to think to that I'm obligated to jump and scamper whenever you want something. I'm not.

Psul the Magnificent

"Make the FBI Great Again — Elect a Republican President
It’s the only way the necessary house cleaning will occur."

By Larry Kudlow

Yeah, sure Larry.

We tried that already.

https://www.nysun.com/article/make-the-fbi-great-again-elect-a-republican-president

Gregory

Try, try again.

Or give up.

Psul the Magnificent

Gregory,

Put Marge Taylor Greene in charge - she'll git her done!

Gregory

MTG is not on my radar.

Scott O

"Put Marge Taylor Greene in charge - she'll git her(sic- her who?) done!"

She'd be a damn sight better than what we have now.
And way more fun!

scenes

""Make the FBI Great Again — Elect a Republican President
It’s the only way the necessary house cleaning will occur."

By Larry Kudlow

Yeah, sure Larry.

We tried that already."
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Yup. The coup attempt began even before he took office, a kind of 'pre-coup' I guess.

My best guess is that it's too late. It might well be that JFK already proved that.

Just imagine the lockdown the 17 intelligence agencies will have when you combine modern surveillance with upcoming abilities to parse it.

Of course and as usual, it's for the children.

Gregory

A dem who thinks the CIA murdered his uncle would also clean house

Gregory

george, weekend update...

Dem actors may just be hanging together, knowing the alternative is to hang separately. Keeping it together and not acting guilty until late January 2025 is all they need to do.

scenes

"A dem who thinks the CIA murdered his uncle would also clean house"

I would suggest that he stays away from convertibles.

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"Keeping it together and not acting guilty until late January..."

The general impression I get is that any lapse in morality (or crime) is excused with the singular threat of Trump on the horizon. I figure that Sam Harris represents the general mode of thinking:

“I’ve said on several occasions that I think Donald Trump is a worse person than Osama bin Laden,”

“Trump is, without question, one of the least honest and most malignantly selfish human beings I have ever come across.”

"“We will get 4 more years of Trump if we actually give this a fair hearing”, referring to the bombshell “laptop from hell” belonging to Hunter Biden."

"Sam Harris then talks about Twitter shutting down the account of The New York Post and censoring the story, saying that people allege it was a Left Wing Conspiracy to deny Donald Trump the Presidency. He admits that it was “absolutely a conspiracy” but says that the conspiracy was “warranted”"

...so any scurrilous behavior is A-OK. Any whopper. You might as well do a bit of profit-taking while under the general papal indulgence of Trumphate.

Admittedly, another President Potato administration will put everyone into the clear, so there's bound to be a lot of self-interest involved. A great big grifting community of bureaucrats, professional politicians, non-profits, policy wonks, all beak-deep into the carcass. The most dominant will get their cut first, showing just why mysterious cattle mutilations always have the same bits removed.

It's a beautiful thing.

BopBang

I keep hearing people bitching and whining about hopelessness and I don't get it. Are they just negatrons?

Must be.

We have never had a more free, secure, prosperous or safe time ever before in our history!

Americans are thriving! Everyone is so happy and satisfied.

Crime is almost null, neighbors are helpful, and communities are strong. The cities have never been more beautiful.

Nobody is sick, disabilty rates are almost zero, and people receive better care in US hospitals than in any other country. Pain is adequately treated with dignity and compassion.

We can trust doctors because the institutions that oversee medicine have our best interest at heart.

Laughter and joy are at an all time high. Friends and family rarely argue and divorce rates have plummeted.

Domestic violence and child abuse have been eradicated through education. Our mental health system is highly successful.

We all treat each other with respect, patience, and kindness. We agree with each other 100%

Drugs aren't killing anyone. Addiction is barely an issue in 2023.
The idea that something exists that is turning people into vaso-constricted zombies is absurd. Tranq addiction is fantasy.

Food and water are abundant and clean for all to enjoy.

The jobs market is booming--mostly due to American manufacturing and successful small business.

Vets are all housed, suicide is extremely rare, and the VA is treating people better than ever before.

Schools are churning out educated, conscientious, and inspired student. They are on their way to affordable colleges and excellent trade schools.

They will all own homes and enioy a bright, stress-free future.

War is an archaic concept. Our reasonable politicians have ensured peaceful, respectful, and effective relationships with all global leaders. Other countries respect us. They look to us as an example of human strength and ingenuity.

The music, movies, books, and art have never been better. People are creative and vibrant and impressive.

Most important, our seniors are cared for and revered. We appreciate their wisdom and strength and we reward it with support so they are all comfortable and worry-free.

We all live in unity in this great time of free-flowing information and inspiration.

The journalists are honest and well-intentioned. They care about integrity and truth. Television is good for neurodevelopment. It's wholesome. The internet is a place of truth, entertainment, and calm, loving interaction.

We are a strong nation and they are telling us so, so your conspiracy theories won't work on me.

Don Bessee

Lets have a big one handed clap for the comic stylings @849

;-)

Don Bessee

Its getting hopeless for creepy grampa joe -

Of the registered voter respondents, 63 percent, including 83 percent of Republicans and 65 percent of voters outside of the two major parties, believe Hunter Biden “was involved in illegal influence.” More than four in ten Democrats believe the same.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/05/22/poll-most-say-joe-biden-engaged-illegal-influence-peddling-scheme/

;-)

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