Sandbox – 30aug23

[The chorus of financial mavens warning of the dollar’s destruction is growing.  The cost to just service our exploding national debt is unsustainable.  That means it’s growing so fast that it consumes an ever greater share of the federal budget AND the nation’s GDP.  Those people concerned with this financial collapse are advised to reinvest in gold, silver, and prominent crypto currencies.  Judging from past attempts to elicit discussion of this event, we have a very sanguine group of readers.  Quoting a famous man, “What, me worry?” gjr]

Comments

[Gregory]

"Those people concerned with this financial collapse are advised to reinvest in gold, silver, and prominent crypto currencies"

And most of those doing the advising are selling various and sundry vehicles for avoidance, thus illustrating the Dilbert principle... that investing is mostly the act of giving money to your stockbroker who then buys nice things for their family.

A lump free sandbox. Whooppee!

[Scott O]

re George's and Gregory's comments:
And that becomes the bigger problem. As soon as enough people lose faith in the monetary system, they are no longer investing in ways that are productive (for the investor and the economy), but protective (for the investor).
Will metals be a safe haven? What if they do a repeat from the 30s and fix the prices.
Investing in real estate protects against a complete loss of your capital but you could still lose a lot and be stuck with a rise in insurance and prop tax costs.
All the old sayings apply:
It works until it doesn't - it starts to fail slowly and then quickly - etc.
I certainly don't expect any actual solution from the feds. They're not ever going to admit they were wrong.
And the general public is clueless - most are totally convinced the "rich" have all the money and if we just take it from them it will fix everything.
The national credit card is getting close to its limit and this isn't the 50s or 60s so we shouldn't count on getting a fresh one.
All we really have left is the hope that China screws up worse than we do.
The founding fathers gave us clear warning and we (collectively) ignored them.

[Don Bessee]

Just figuring that out -

California Democrat frustrated by rising theft admits liberal crime bill was 'big mistake'
The San Mateo County Supervisor said residents have complained to him about California's Prop 47 enabling shoplifters in the state

https://www.foxnews.com/media/california-democrat-frustrated-rising-theft-admits-liberal-crime-bill-big-mistake

;-)

[Scott O]

No sooner do I post, do I find this bit of dark humor:

"‘Beyond Redemption:’ Cornel West Says the Democrat Party is Unable to Meet the Needs of the Poor"

Dear Mr West - the Democrat Party never had any intention of meeting any actual "needs" of the poor.
What they need is a good education and a desire to be productive.
Good luck getting that from a Democrat.

Mr West, of course, is quite certain that even larger amounts of govt forced wealth transfer will do the trick.
Our natl debt can stand it, right?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/08/30/beyond-redemption-cornel-west-says-democrat-party-unable-meet-needs-poor/

[Individual Juan]

Fox News pundit calls Ramaschwarma criminally stupid...utterly disqualifying

Has the GOP have found their candidate ;)

[Gregory]

Individual Ass... 131p

What a Pelline thing to write.

[Scott O]

So Lonesome Johnny is a FOX news fan, now.
Vivek wants to end the war in the Ukraine. That is "criminally stupid"?
Uh, OK Juan.
Juan volunteering to go fight himself?
I hear they can make uniforms for pregnant soldiers - maybe one of the larger sizes might fit you.

[Scott O]

As long as I was at the Hill -
Here's the latest 100 million dollar grift:

"Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and his daughter, former Fortune 500 CEO Heather Manchin, have pitched major donors on a $100 million project aimed at boosting centrist policies and politicians..."

And what are "centrist policies"?
"Heather Manchin told the WSJ. “We have been thinking about what can be done to bring people together.”"

Ah - they've been "thinking". Bully for them. I guess we don't get to know what these top secret policies are until they get their 100 million.

More humor:
"The WSJ spoke with several major donors who said they discussed the proposal with the Manchins, but said the Manchins have not made any specific requests and that donor meetings have consisted of “a vaguely defined future.”

Vaguely defined, my ass - they were quite specific. 100 million dollars.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4178874-manchin-daughter-pitching-donors-on-100m-centrist-policy-project-report/

[🐠]

Posted by: Scott O | 30 August 2023 at 04:48 PM

…..have pitched major donors on a $100 million project aimed at boosting centrist policies and politicians..."

Yeah…..a cushy directorship with a 100 million dollar endowment would be a lovely parting give for a senator projected to lose in his next election. Good of him and the kid to be all centrist….I mean why be divisive when you can “bring people together.

You might say they’re purple.

[Paul Emery]

George

Is the rate of the 'exploding national debt" under Biden greater than the nearly 7 Trillion that Trump rang up in his 4 years? Obama increased the debt by 7.5 trillion but that was in 8 years. In percentage of increase Reagan is the all time champ since Roosevelt with with 160% in 8 years.

https://www.investopedia.com/us-debt-by-president-dollar-and-percentage-7371225

The total national debt stood at $27.7 trillion on the day of Biden’s inauguration, and has increased by over $3 trillion since then, according to the Treasury Department.

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article266851596.html#storylink=cpy

[Scott O]

Paul - our debt problem started long before Trump and very few seem interested in doing anything about it. SS and Medicare and interest on debt will sink our country.

[Individual Juan]

Sounds like Scott is a fan of Ramashawarma... another loud mouth BS Trump clone.

[Individual Juan]

Giuliani guilty as charged.
It will be fun to see what damages are awarded to the victims of Giuliani's lies.

MAGAs Please Help!

https://rudygiulianifreedomfund.com/

[Paul Emery]

How do you propose we deal with SS and Medicare Scott. You have defined problems now what in your opinion are solutions?

[fishanthrope]

You have defined problems now what in your opinion are solutions?

Pull yourself out of "radio guy" mode and tell us how you would fix them.

[George Rebane]

Re investing in gold. A careful reading of my opening remark reveals that I do not recommend investments in gold. My own portfolio contains considerably less than 5% in precious metals as recommended by financial mavens. But this doesn't mean that I will not increase this share significantly in the future.

Re the leftwingers' understanding of who increased our national debt by how much - to explain away this level of ignorance requires a considerable tome. Let's just say again that the global pandemic was a significant factor that the socialist do not understand and will never admit.

[Gregory]

Individual Jeffie... smeared me as a "helicopter dad" a day or two ago and I thought I'd straighten out the record.

I know what he was referring to... the one thing he knows about me is that I sicc'd a lawyer on an incompetent math teacher and their principal after they screwed my over my son and denied me a parent conferance, required by law if requested by a parent.

We caught the teacher giving a fraudulent grade a full letter lower than he'd earned.

But Jeff lavished attention on his kid. Trips to visit universities from coast to coast but ended up going to a college in Baltimore of all places.

I suspect Jeff called me a helicopter dad because that's what he was and is.

[Scott O]

Lonely Johnny 9:02 - I see the left wing inta-lektuls are making fun of people based on their non-Anglo names. Maybe Juan can knock out a front tooth so he has the look to go with his ignorance.
"Loudmouth"?
Because he can articulate intelligent ideas that you have no answer for?
Nice.

[Scott O]

Paul 10:02 - I've covered this many times. Not going to keep going back over ground already covered just for the student who sleeps through class.
One thing is for sure -
Thinking that voting for not-Trump would help has proven to be a disaster.
Here - I'll throw Paul a bone to chew on:
https://www.pgpf.org/blog/2023/06/the-2023-deficit-is-projected-to-total-15-trillion-heres-why-it-could-be-even-higher
"However, this year’s deficit may turn out to be even larger because individual income tax revenues in April were lower than CBO expected, but not accounted for in their latest projections."
Receipts for cap gains will be in the toilet this year. I know I'll probably be using losses to lower my tax bill.
Maybe if we can flood the country with a few million more illegal "eaters" and blow tens of billions on green scams we can have a surplus!
The Chi-Coms made a great investment with the 'Biden Brand'.

[Individual Juan]

Mitch "Freeze Frame" McConnell is back!

https://youtu.be/wHo43B6nu60?si=l86BG-N7H-Cs-jma

[Individual Juan]

The only media outlets I have seen where advertisers regularly promote investing in gold are the right-wing media outlets.
Advertisers do this because those media outlets cater to the doom and gloom, sky is falling, conspiracy driven listeners.

[Gregory]

Jeffie, those media outlets also tend to attract people who invest.

[Individual Juan]

Test yourself! How many of these rumors did you think were true or false?

https://www.politifact.com/?utm_source=PolitiFact&utm_campaign=171bdf9abb-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2023_08_30_09_24&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-171bdf9abb-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D

[Individual Juan]

For Scott, another rummy swami falsehood,
https://mailchi.mp/politifact/vivek-ramaswamys-false-claim-about-vps-power?e=4d9a74d4d4

[Individual Juan]

Does Trump really think MAGA are that stupid?

https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1696917569658089883?t=Ds6xboiGyMxkoOm-PvFvqA&s=19

[Scott O]

Lonely Johnny 2:30 - Hardly a lie. The "scientists" who claim it's not true are the same ones who have been wrong about AGW from the start.
While I wouldn't think that many people have been killed yet because of green weenie idiocy, I have yet to see any evidence that "climate change" has killed anyone.
If they do stop producing petroleum there will be massive starvation worldwide.
But don't worry - I'm sure you have your lifetime supply of Little Debbies stashed.

[Gregory]

Jeffie... do you still Trump won in 2016 because of Russian election tampering?

There was no Russian election tampering.

[Don Bessee]

TDS trigger warning, another narrative fail -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/08/31/report-raffensperger-testimony-supports-trump-defense-in-georgia-case/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/08/31/arizona-secretary-of-state-says-donald-trump-cannot-be-kept-off-arizona-ballot/

;-)

[Don Bessee]

You can thank the weingartens of the world -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/08/31/poll-satisfaction-with-u-s-k-12-education-ties-record-low/

;-)

[Don Bessee]

It starts to crumble already -

Legal experts: Judge's order in Mark Meadows case "could be very bad news" for Fani Willis

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/legal-experts-judges-order-mark-190557801.html

;-)

[Individual Juan]

How MAGA Republicans are eating their young and jeopardizing their party's chances in 2024 and beyond
The next generation of Republican voters are "less Republican" and far more moderate than the dominant voices in the party today

https://dellavolpe.substack.com/p/how-maga-republicans-are-eating-their

[burp belch]

Ted Cruz owns the Libs again!!!

https://www.newsweek.com/ted-cruzs-beer-stunt-sparks-avalanche-jokes-mockery-1823622

[Gregory]

Jeff, how badly will Biden lose in Nov 24?

How many seats in Congress will go GOP?

[fishanthrope]

Inside Today's Disastrous Jobs Report: 670K Full-Time Jobs Lost In 2 Months Vs 1 Million Part-Time Surge; Worst Unadjusted August Payrolls Since Great Recession

BIDENOMICS: It's working for you!

[Individual Juan]

Fish bone, That's the Fed's doing, not Bidenomics bonehead

[fishanthrope]

Posted by: Corpulent Juan | 01 September 2023 at 11:16 AM

#sad

[Scott O]

Bonehead Juan - "That's the Fed's doing, not Bidenomics"

Yeah, the Fed just up and raised the interest rates for no reason at all.
Remember the "transitory" inflation? Biden and the Dems continue to print money we don't have and the Fed has to raise the rates to combat inflation.
And the left just wants to print more money.
Swell.

[Individual Juan]

Sure Scott, Trump had nothing to do with it, Covid had nothing to do with it,
Inflation is only happening in the United States of MAGA, not worldwide🤣😂🤣

[fishanthrope]

Posted by: Corpulent Juan | 01 September 2023 at 11:58 AM

Sorry my mistake.....I forgot....everything good that happens economically is Bidenomics....everything bad....mumble, mumble ...LOOK Squirrell!

[Individual Juan]

About Frikken Time!

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/federal-marijuana-rescheduling-is-just-a-step-on-the-path-to-legalization-congressional-lawmakers-say/

Only been illegal since 1937 because Anslinger wanted job security - asshole bureaucrats! The beginnings of the drug war industrial complex.

“From the moment he took charge of the bureau, Harry was aware of the weakness of his new position. A war on narcotics alone — cocaine and heroin, outlawed in 1914 — wasn’t enough,” author Johann Hari wrote in his book, “Chasing the Scream: The First and Last Days of the War on Drugs.” “They were used only by a tiny minority, and you couldn’t keep an entire department alive on such small crumbs. He needed more.”

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/harry-anslinger-the-man-behind-the-marijuana-ban/

[Scott O]

"Covid had nothing to do with it"
It was our nation's response to Covid that caused a problem in the first place. Hide in your room, produce nothing of value and print money. Typical idiot maneuver by the fed govt.
If Trump had tried to stop the cash giveaways you would have gone ballistic.
By the time Biden came into office there was no reason at all to keep pumping out money and passing all those Dem vote-buying bills.
The Chinese love Bidenomics. Billions of "green" dollars in their pockets.
The stock market is flat, inflation continues, unemployment is up. Gee - lets pass some more spending bills. Bail out the favored banks, bail out the idiots with their college loans. And oh yeah - quietly jack up SNAP spending - boy, Bidenomics is working swell.

[fishanthrope]

Only been illegal since 1937 because Anslinger wanted job security - asshole bureaucrats!

But remember ....you guys love bureaucrats!

[Individual Juan]

Not really Fish, nobody loves bureaucrats that I know of. Federal , state, local government employees might love their jobs and their bennies, resulting in all the unfunded liabilities we have. But I don't want bloated bureaucracies whose inertia results in making life more difficult for all Americans.
The heads of all those bureaucracies are no different than Anslinger, they just want to keep their budgets fat.
When Trump was first elected and all three branches of government were Republican run, and Republicans want to defund many existing bureaucracies, why didn't they force a government shutdown and axe a bunch of jobs???
Answer... because those employees live in Republican districts.

[fishanthrope]

Posted by: Corpulent Juan | 01 September 2023 at 01:33 PM

Who is this? What have you done with jeffy?

[Scott O]

"because those employees live in Republican districts."

Washington DC and the areas of MD and VA where the fed workers live are Republican?

Tell us another good one.

[Individual Juan]

Scott, give me a break, I said federal, state and local. You might want to check the phone book. There are bureaucracies everywhere.. army bases, DHS, prisons, yada yada yada that all employ bureaucrats across the nation.
Capiche?

[Gregory]

"When Trump was first elected and all three branches of government were Republican run, and Republicans want to defund many existing bureaucracies, why didn't they force a government shutdown and axe a bunch of jobs???"

Bullshit.
Trump his first 2 years had a weak Speaker with a bare majority in the House and a 50/50 Senate with a VP as a tie breaker.
Barely in control and completely unable to wipe out federal bureaucracies.

[Don Bessee]

Try as the might the public is rejecting the global warming orthodoxy and shunning electric cars for a ton of good reasons.

Supply of electric vehicles is far outstripping demand across the domestic UK market, forcing manufacturers to cut prices in an effort to attract disinterested drivers.

When it came to electric vehicles, it said supply had ballooned in a way that did not match demand, causing many manufacturers to cut prices to move stock.

“Recent increased supply of new electric vehicles appears to be exceeding retail demand, creating an imbalance in pipeline inventory coming into the key plate change month of September,” it said. “Manufacturers are reacting to this through the offer of discounted prices and supported finance rates to stimulate retail demand.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/09/01/report-ballooning-electric-vehicle-supply-far-outstrips-demand/

;-)

[Paul Emery]

Gregory writes:

"Trump his first 2 years had a weak Speaker with a bare majority in the House and a 50/50 Senate with a VP as a tie breaker."

Once again Gregory is standing up and supporting Trump. He's the most consistent Trump supporter on this blog.

[Scott O]

Juan thinks Trump had the power to get rid of city, county and state bureaucracies.
Hilarious.
No wonder he's a lefty - he has no idea of reality.

"army bases, DHS, prisons, yada yada yada that all employ bureaucrats across the nation."

Army bases and prisons are needed. Of course they need to be trimmed but good luck.

We need to go through DC and clean house. There are several cabinet positions that can be eliminated or reduced and folded into another dept.
I'm sure at least 50% of what goes on in DC can be gotten rid of or turned over to the states. All wealth transfer payments, welfare and goodie giveaways should be eliminated from the fed govt and run by each state according to their fiscal ability and local preference. The feds should only be helping out when there is a natural disaster.

[Scott O]

Paul 6:33 - "Once again Gregory is standing up and supporting Trump."
No Paul - he's pointing out a physical reality.
Gregory is supporting the truth.

[Don Bessee]

@637 He is the ponytail of ignorance with an oozing TDS infection. LOL

;-)

[Paul Emery]

No Scott, Gregory is making excuses for Trump who did nothing in his four years but trash the economy, run up nearly 7 Trillion in debt and lose the House, Senate and Presidency while becoming the biggest political loser since the 1800's.

[Don Bessee]

I rest my case @717 ROFLOL.

Talk about setting yourself up for failure -

To comply, New Hampshire needs to scrap its state law protecting its first-in-the-nation primary status and must expand access to early voting. But with Republicans in control of New Hampshire’s governor’s office and both houses of the state legislature, state Democrats have repeatedly argued that’s a non-starter.

There are plenty of Democrats in Iowa and New Hampshire who see the upending of their leadoff positions as sour grapes from Biden, who finished a disappointing fourth in the 2020 Iowa caucuses and fifth in the New Hampshire primary, before a second-place finish in Nevada and a landslide victory in South Carolina propelled him towards the nomination and eventually the White House.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-hampshire-democrats-defy-biden-dnc-ultimatum-ditch-first-in-nation-primary

;-)

[fishanthrope]

Once again Gregory is standing up and supporting Trump. He's the most consistent Trump supporter on this blog.

You're (see...proper use of "you're...try it some time) the "the most consistent Trump supporter on this blog". Everybody else stopped talking about him shortly after the election.

Not you....you need Trump like other people need air.

I get it though....without Trump in your (see ...."your" in the possessive) life I'd have been reading your obituary sometime in 2018.

[Gregory]

Punch, punch, punch.

If you and "Juan" would like me to not write comments that seem to support Trump, I'd suggest you write more carefully. Stick to the truth. Less bull.

[🐠]

See ….this is how you know it’s really President Brainstem’s plan for student debt relief…!

Student Loan Forgiveness Plans Could Actually Cost Borrowers More

https://www.newsweek.com/student-loan-forgiveness-plans-could-actually-cost-borrowers-more-1824029

[Paul Emery]

Gregory

What is not true about my 7:17 post repeated here for your convenience:

"No Scott, Gregory is making excuses for Trump who did nothing in his four years but trash the economy, run up nearly 7 Trillion in debt and lose the House, Senate and Presidency while becoming the biggest political loser since the 1800's."

[Don Bessee]

Reality check for gavin that they cannot keep the lights on with the new green deal. ROFLOL

California to expand fossil fuel project Gavin Newsom said he was 'fully committed' to shutting down

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/california-expand-fossil-fuel-project-204113267.html

;-)

[Gregory]

From a neutral point of view, there is nothing true in your 911p.

Sorry Punch.

[Don Bessee]

The TDS set has the same disconnect from the truth and are as slavish to the talking points as a chicom central committee member like this winner. Lets hope it runs aoc out of office. -

White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre on Thursday said that President Joe Biden has "done more" to secure the souther border and deal with the immigration crisis "than anybody else."

Her comments come after fellow Democrat Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez told the New York Times that immigration is the Biden administration's "weakest issue."

"The president has done more to secure the border and to deal with this issue of immigration than anybody else. He really has!" Jean-Pierre said Thursday.

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/karine-jean-pierre-responds-aoc-213024283.html

;-)

[Paul Emery]

What are you talking about Gregory? Can you name me another 20th Century President who lost the House, Senate and Presidency in one term? If so, name them. Did Trump run up nearly 7 Trillion in debt in just four years or not? If he didn't show me the numbers. Did Trump not inherit a steady economy and leave it a total mess? If not show me the numbers to support your contention. I'm afraid your undying support for Trump is causing you to become delusional. Here are the numbers:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-trump/trump-ends-his-term-like-a-growing-number-of-americans-out-of-a-job-idUSKBN29D30I

[fishanthrope]

Trump.....truly the wellspring from which you flow!

[🐠]

EVERYTHING IS GOING SWIMMINGLY: Ignoring Biden’s Fallout in Africa. “As a growing number of African countries devolve into chaos and seek alliances with countries opposed to US policy, the Biden administration is nowhere to be seen on the national stage. . . . It’s worthwhile noting that before Biden handed Afghanistan over to the Taliban, progressives at the State Department hoisted the rainbow flag over Kabul in a symbolic gesture that thoroughly infuriated small conservative nations around the world. Aside from the optics of turning our friends over to the terrorists, the Biden administration forgets that gestures like this do not sit well with many of the small African countries sitting on valuable oil and rare earth minerals. The result is many of these countries simply do not trust us. Instead of seeking help from the United States, a growing number of small, poor countries are running to Wagner for military support and China for shady loans.”

Related: “But the truth is, when we’re engaged with the Chinese, we get an airport. And when we’re engaged with you guys, we get a lecture.”

The Chinese really got their money’s worth when they bought “Coin Operated President” and on so many levels.

https://ewerickson.substack.com/p/ignoring-bidens-fallout-in-africa

[Gregory]

Punch, I'd love to have a good conversation about this, but past experience with you sez it's impossible. How many Senate seats were lost? How many House seats were lost? How does COVID response figure in? What were Dem's doing that was counterproductive just to hurt Trumpers?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress#/media/File:Combined--Control_of_the_U.S._House_of_Representatives_-_Control_of_the_U.S._Senate.png

Enquiring minds want to know.

[Individual Juan]

My "bureaucrats" comments began as a counter to Fishes with Glocks right wing talking point that Democrats are for big government, insinuating that Republicans have never had a hand in creating any big government bureaucracies.
Gregory could not handle that truth so decided to split hairs on the size of the majority in the house and senate during Trump's term. Of course, the same thing could be said of the Congressional majorities during Biden's term.
After smearing me, Scott comes around at 633pm indicating he thinks some fat could be cut from the pork.

[fishanthrope]

Posted by: Corpulent Juan | 02 September 2023 at 07:27 AM

Scott comes around at 633pm indicating he thinks some fat could be cut from the pork.

It's simply not possible that you survived in a career dependent on passable writing,.

[Gregory]

Splitting hairs and ignoring the sizes of the wins/losses is what Paul's conclusion is based upon.

[Individual Juan]

Right-wing propagandists full of doom and gloom, supposed Biden economic failures, whining about inflation and how bad everybody's doing in America take note,

"On Friday, June 30, alone, the TSA screened a total of 2,884,683 passengers, according to the agency. That represents the highest checkpoint throughput volume in the agency's history, TSA spokesperson Lisa Farbstein tweeted.Jul 6, 2023"

"The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) expects to screen an incredibly high volume of travelers from Friday, Sept. 1, through Wednesday, Sept. 6, following a record-breaking summer. On Friday alone, the TSA anticipates more than 2.7 million travelers will pass through security checkpoints.

In fact, TSA Administrator David Pekoske said in a statement he anticipates passenger numbers will be nearly 11 percent higher than the same time last year, and even higher than 2019."

[Paul Emery]

Gregory

It's based on simple facts Gregory, facts that you chose to ignore. Once again, show me another President that has lost the House Senate and Presidency after one term in the 20th Century.

Losing the House and Senate is a fact Gregory, how can you deny it? Of course you are one of those that believe that Trump won the election despite there being NO evidence to prove that.

[fishanthrope]

Posted by: Corpulent Juan | 02 September 2023 at 10:11 AM

....and heading into a significant slowdown they're doing it on credit.

[Individual Juan]

Yes, fishes with glocks, Americans are stupid and only think in the moment, so what else is new?

[fishanthrope]

Posted by: Corpulent Juan | 02 September 2023 at 10:38 AM

Just wondering why you picked that particular post to ignore that fact.

[fishanthrope]

It's based on simple facts Gregory, facts that you chose to ignore. Once again, show me another President that has lost the House Senate and Presidency after one term in the 20th Century.

I bet you practiced that speech while standing on a bucket.

[Gregory]

Trump didn't do that in the 20th Century, Punch. Didn't you notice?

There has been little movement in seats in the House and the Senate... we shall see what happens in 2024.

[Paul Emery]

Anything can happen in the future Gregory. Historically Trump is the biggest political loser since the 1800's. Thanks for correcting me on the scope of Trumps legacy as the biggest loser. Actually he's the biggest loser in the 20th and 21st centuries. You got it right about that.

[Gregory]

Obama lost way more seats in the Congress. And the Presidency didn't get kept in the family... it took another 4 years to crank up the machine to dump Trump.

No punch. You lost.

[Paul Emery]

Obama was re-elected and served two complete terms Gregory Trump was dumped after one term. Also he left the economy is much better shape than when he found it after the Bush disaster. Trump wrecked the economy in only one term after inheriting a solid growing economy trom Obama. There is no comparison Gregory.

Gregory

Who inherited the better economy Obama from Bush or Trump from Obama?

[Gregory]

Trump was dumped after people like you ran after him with torches and pitchforks... after 6 years, he slowed down.

Obama lost a bunch of Senate and House seats. The biggest loser.

[Gregory]

Golly, Paul... everyone I know thinks Trump's economy was pretty good until COVID hit and Dem's didn't want to go to work no mo'.

[Don Bessee]

Creepy grampa joe is bought and paid for -

https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2023/08/31/chinas-coal-power-binge-accelerates-over-300-more-plants-on-the-way/

;-)

[Paul Emery]

Gosh and Golly Gregory everybody knows he inherited a good economy and left a mess for Biden to clean up. Trump instigated and signed all the financial aid packages you are referring to. He even signed the first extension.

"President Trump on Sunday night signed a massive coronavirus relief and spending package, relenting on a measure he had called a "disgrace" days earlier.

The legislation, which combines $900 billion in COVID-19 aid with government funding through September 2021, was passed by large majorities in both chambers of Congress on Dec. 21 — only to see Trump blindside legislators the next day and blast the bill.

In a statement Sunday night, Trump said lawmakers will pursue some of his sought-after changes."

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/27/950133658/trump-signs-covid-19-relief-package-after-threatening-to-derail-it

[Gregory]

Gosh and golly?

The PBS piece was a year after COVID started making its rounds and teachers and other unionized public employees began refusing to work.

So... you think Trump was trying to sabotage the economy... while he was trying to remain President?

Really?

[Paul Emery]

He signed it. Had nearly $7 trillion in debt. No one to blame but himself and his total incompetence.

[Gregory]

And the price of not signing... was collapse of the economy?

[fishanthrope]

Trump wrecked the economy in only one term after inheriting a solid growing economy trom Obama.

Shallowness of the change layer in the guitar case.....irrefutable evidence.

[Scott O]

Paul - "No one to blame but himself and his total incompetence."

Yep - he wrote the bill, and threatened all the congressmen with the gallows if they didn't vote for it. Held their children at gun point.
The Dems and Paul Emery begged him not to do it - you all remember Paul pleading on George's blog that we do what we can to stop the bailout - remember?

What a maroon.

[Scott O]

Lonesome Johnny 10:11 - "supposed Biden economic failures, whining about inflation"

Yeah, those idiot hard working middle class morons watching their buying power disappear due to "transitory" inflation - what a bunch of whiners.
Why don't they just get another credit card - right, Juan?

How far into the MD20/20 were you this morning?

[Scott O]

Oh, look - another "talking point" from the conservatives:
"American College of OBGYNs Calls For No Limits on Abortion"
Must be one of those "centrist policies" I keep hearing about.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/09/02/american-college-obgyns-calls-for-no-limits-abortion/

[Don Bessee]

Do any of the lefties see the problem here -

President Joe Biden cited his hectic schedule when he was asked Saturday why he had not yet visited East Palestine, Ohio, months after the town was devastated by a train derailment that polluted the environment and contaminated water.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-cites-busy-schedule-asked-visiting-east-palestine-ohio

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/09/02/joe-biden-spent-40-percent-presidency-away-personal-trips/

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[Don Bessee]

HAHA i bet there is an air force of drones delivering small packages to keep them distracted from the global warming thingy and the ticket prices. LOL

https://www.foxnews.com/us/burning-man-festival-told-shelter-place-conserve-food-water-flooding

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[Don Bessee]

Time for the TDS set to scream as their heads explode -

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-scores-a-victory-judge-rules-trump-s-false-election-statements-while-in-office-are-covered-by-presidential-immunity/ss-AA1gaUoN?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c08662ccbd9041ebb0b67a5ee0bfac46&ei=24#image=4

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[Don Bessee]

LOL get the ponytail of ignorance to his couch -

ABC's George Stephanopoulos appeared stunned Sunday by a 2024 election poll showing former President Trump and President Biden tied at 46% in a hypothetical rematch, calling the findings "kind of shocking" in light of Trump's mounting legal woes.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/abc-host-shocked-new-poll-trump-biden-tied-potential-matchup-despite-trumps-legal-baggage

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[Don Bessee]

Smells like another scam with a ftx spin along with a dollop of jum jones. LOL -

The “Angel” singer is so sure about Africa that he has planned the construction of a new city in Senegal. He launched his settlement in 2020 with the cooperation of the country of Senegal with the hopes of creating a high-tech community with an economy based on his “Akoin” cryptocurrency.

Akon — who has been repeatedly accused of mistreating women and in 2008 was seen on video punching a female fan in the face — was recently heard selling his pan-African city idea on a podcast called REVOLT. During the show, the singer claimed that the African continent is the “holy grail” for black Americans because its people need “everything.”

“Africa is in a position where if African Americans take position now, every single African American would be a millionaire without even thinking twice because there’s nothing that’s not needed over there,” Akon said. “So, you guys come with the discipline, you guys come with the knowledge, you come with the resources.”

In the late 2000s, Akon was busted for exaggerating his criminal record to market himself. He claimed to have been a “notorious” car theft ringleader who got locked up for almost five years in prison. However, The Smoking Gun combed through his records to find one conviction for gun possession with a sentence of three years’ probation — and then several months in prison for alleged auto theft before prosecutors dropped all charges against him.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/09/03/singer-akon-says-if-every-single-african-american-moved-to-senegal-and-invested-in-his-smart-city-they-would-become-millionaires-and-the-u-s-would-collapse-overnight/

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[fishanthrope]

Well this should make a certain Nevada City resident ecstatic.

Oklahoma School Hires Drag Queen Principal Once Arrested For Child Porn, Drugs

I'm sure it will be fine though.....

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/oklahoma-school-hires-drag-queen-principal-once-arrested-child-porn-drugs

[fishanthrope]

"Make a note of how they aren’t “advocating for a complete erasure of cars.” Instead, they want the government to “re-direct the U.S. from relying on private motor vehicles.” The word “private” is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. In other words, they won’t be getting rid of all cars. Just your cars. Your private cars. Just like they won’t be getting rid of all planes. The military will still need jets (sold by the military-industrial complex and paid for by your taxpayer dollars). And important people like John Kerry will still need their private jets because they are very busy. But you don’t need to fly."

....and I imagine that other "important people"...say like the CEO of a certain placer county resort destination non profit will need their Subaru's as well.

It's just common sense.

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2023/09/04/pete-buttigieg-is-just-a-symptom-of-a-vastly-larger-crisis-n575675#google_vignette

[fishanthrope]

Alas....another court scribe saying the quiet part out loud....

Simple Joe: Biden's Biggest Fear Is Being Perceived As 'Stupid' According To Biographer

I'm not sure he needs to be terribly concerned....the eastern establishment and their new Silicon Valley pledges have so much wrapped up in the simpleton that his legacy will be carried across the finish line. And frankly he's not completely stupid either....he has managed to con a whole group of progressive geriatrics that he remains "a man of the people" no matter how much corruption is discovered and suppressed by the ....ahem...."Press". But his greatest skill is his ability to believe his own BS.....Joe learned long ago that the most important quality to have (in addition to perving on little girls and an unerring drive for Hoovering up dirty money) is sincerity?

Once you can fake that you're (again note to PunchyBot™....you're (the contraction of "you are" as opposed to "your" the possessive) golden!

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/simple-joe-bidens-biggest-fear-being-perceived-stupid-according-biographer

[Don Bessee]

Another joy of the new green deal -

On Monday’s broadcast of CNN’s “The Lead,” UAW President Shawn Fain discussed endorsing a candidate in the 2024 presidential race and stated that there are issues with workers possibly being left behind in the transition from internal combustion engines to electric vehicles, and stated that “20% of the powertrain workers in the Big Three stand to lose their jobs down the road” if that transition occurs. He also argued that “you can’t call this a just transition if you’re going to go from $32 an hour wages down to $16 an hour.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/09/04/uaw-president-20-of-big-three-powertrain-workers-stand-to-lose-jobs-under-electric-vehicle-transition/

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[Don Bessee]

And the winner of the biggest shithole in the US is DRUMROLL -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/09/04/washington-d-c-ranked-least-desirable-place-live-survey/

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