‘The End is Near’

George Rebane

Were we to discuss really serious topics beyond Trump’s trials and Biden’s lies, I can think of one no more important than that brought up by Victor Davis Hanson in a recent interview (here).  We have extensively covered the various national and geo-strategic factors that portend to end America’s run as the world's leading democratic republic, economy, and white hat world hegemon.  However, most of our neighbors neither care nor are aware of what’s happening.  As witnessed on these pages, if anything, they are more interested in Stormy Daniel’s testimony and various topical policy atrocities launched by our doddering idiot for president and Democrats at all levels of government (especially California).

This is not to say that there is no traction to the warnings issued by our more thoughtful political leaders and commentators (e.g. here) – so far, a sparsely populated bunch.  Today more people are starting to take notice that there is now in the offing a likely “extinction” of the United States we have known.  Letter writers (here) to serious publications like the WSJ acknowledge the current deterioration of America’s defense posture and industrial might, and are showing concern.

Material arguments summarize as follows –

• The US industrial base to make things from ships to medicines to machine tools is essentially gone.
• Our military is tragically under-manned and woke-corrupted with traditional cadres of enlistees no longer willing to join, let alone make military their career. Our country can no longer find enough people willing to fight for it.
• Our unimaginable national debt and reckless social spending programs are destroying the dollar and unseating it as the preferred currency for international commerce.
• Our open borders and illegal alien import policies are destroying the remnants of America’s public cultural cohesion with new levels of unassimilating multi-culturality never before witnessed in a sustainable and geographically compact jurisdiction.
• Our traditional allies in Europe and Asia are aware of America’s weak (non-existent?) leadership and feckless foreign policy, and are seeking alternative geo-strategic relationships that serve their national interests.
• Our electorate is split and largely ignorant of the issues facing the nation; and are in no shape to unify and support reasonably coherent policies to attempt a return to a usefully educated, economically healthy, fiscally sound, geographically secure, and culturally unified sovereign nation-state. Over half of us don’t care and want an autocratic global government run by elites, and the remainder want to return to a liberal constitutional government based on free-market capitalism.
• By passing laws, regulations, and prohibitive tax rates in a transforming neo-Marxist society, we no longer educate a sufficient cadre of high-end (STEM) workers with needed skillsets or provide them the means to produce wealth in an open-market capitalist economy.

So instead –

   

Comments

[Randy]

Sadly those in my "inner circle" who share common conservative/libertarian beliefs are ignorant of what is really going on. They intentionally decline to read or listen to more conservative or libertarian news and opinion sources. They are content to peruse social media crap like Tik Tok, Facebook, etc. They choose to distance themselves to what is occurring daily then express surprise when something they don't agree with rears it's ugly and undeniable head. I try to make them aware and my words fall upon deaf ears. Like banging my head against a brick wall.

[George Rebane]

Randy 939am - And now multiply those sentiments by tens of millions of times.

[Paul Emery]

George

Why is it that the Republican Party can't seem to come up with electable candidates for the House, Senate and Presidency?

[Don Bessee]

Riddle me this oh great ponytail of ignorance how can you stick with creepy grampa joe? -

Biden’s poor economy for Main Street is the number one issue facing voters in the 2024 election. The average Wisconsin family lost $21,981 because of the increased cost of living under Biden

In Biden’s America, a McDonald’s Big Mac burger, a medium beverage, and a medium fry meal costs $18 in some locations, up $10 from 2018 when former President Donald Trump was in office.

The poll found damaging results for Biden’s reelection chances:

Only 28 percent of voters said Biden’s economy helped their financial situation
71 percent said economic conditions are negative
80 percent said soaring prices are one of their biggest challenges
Voters also said they trusted Trump over Biden on the economy, the poll found:

43 percent preferred Trump
Only 35 percent preferred Biden
In addition, among blue-collar voters, a demographic associated with Democrats, Trump and Biden were evenly divided at 40 percent.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/05/13/majority-voters-say-bidens-economy-crippled-finances/

;-)

[Paul Emery]

So Don how can you explain how Trump is the biggest political loser in modern history-since the 1800's? Can you name one other President in that time frame that lost the House, Senate and Presidency in four years?

[George Rebane]

re PaulE759pm - by any measure Trump is one of the most successful politicians and public figures in recent history. Continuing to call him "the biggest political loser ..." over and over again is more than tiresome. It sounds like Mayorkas telling the nation that the "border is secure" for three years while millions of illegals are pouring in.

[Paul Emery]

George

Once again can you name any President since the 1800's who has lost the House, Senate and Presidency in 4 years? Was the economy he left better than the economy he inherited from Obama? If so tell me how it was better. Did he get Mexico to build the Wall like he promised? Did he pull us out of Afghanistan like he promised? Was the repeal of Roe v Wade a good thing? I can go on and on.

[Gregory]

Punch, you would see better and farther if you pull your head from your ass.

[Paul Emery]

As usual Gregory is unable to comment on the topic at hand and instead reverts to childish personal attacks which is exactly what his mentor Trump does. He is indeed a devoted Trumper all the way.

[fish ole’]

Good to see Mr 5150 keeping busy….

[Gregory]

Punch, you have literally driven yourself bat shit crazy.

[Paul Emery]

Once again:

As usual Gregory is unable to comment on the topic at hand and instead reverts to childish personal attacks which is exactly what his mentor Trump does.

[Gregory]

Punchy's sanity is the topic at hand.

[scenes]

psul: "Why is it that the Republican Party can't seem to come up with electable candidates for the House, Senate and Presidency?"

Odd, given that there are more Republicans than Democrats in the Senate, and more Republicans than Democrats in the House, and that the prior President was Republican.

psul: "exactly what his mentor Trump does."

Yet another childish attack from an elderly man who should know better.
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It probably doesn't matter much though. Things are run by those with power, a kind of tautology, and those underlings who just love them their microphones at both the national and city council levels pretty much hew the line. Trump has proven that there is a lot of life in the oligopoly as Orangeman caused an allergic reaction in the folks running matters. This situation of the elite loving men-in-dresses, hating Western Civilization, and producing an economy based on offshoring and advertising is probably temporary as it doesn't seem sustainable to me. But, in the meantime, our local minstrels will carry water for their Lords and Masters and occasionally show up to spread a little magic. It's an ironic situation for ex-hippies, but there you have it.

[Gregory]

"Did he get Mexico to build the Wall like he promised?"

Trump never said he'd get Mexico to build the wall.

"Did he pull us out of Afghanistan like he promised?"
He might have had he remained in office.

"Was the repeal of Roe v Wade a good thing?"
It wasn't "repealed".

Punch be sloppy.

[Scott O]

Paul will continually bang the same drum ad nauseam to try to deflect from the fact that he whole-heartedly supported one of the worst presidents imaginable. Biden is a lying, senile, grifting, pervert fronting for a cabal of evil anti-American one-worlders bent on our country's destruction.
Expect nothing else from him and his ilk as they continue their blindness to the moral and economic decay besetting our nation.

[Paul Emery]

Direct quote from Trump Gregory promising to build the wall and having Mexico pay for it. Why didn't he do that?

"I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great great wall on our southern border and I’ll have Mexico pay for that wall."

Also he had four years to pull us out of Afghanistan why didn't he do it?

[Paul Emery]

Scott

In you're opinion is Trump telling the truth when claims he had no sexual activity with Stormy Daniels?

[scenes]

"Paul will continually bang the same drum ad nauseam to try to deflect from the fact that he whole-heartedly supported one of the worst presidents imaginable."

Dunno that he has actually been *for* anything here. You have to defend a position for one thing.

Paul's standard operating procedure is to bang on about Trump or how someone is a MAGA supporter and then sit back and watch the ants run around. It's a form of idle fun plus you get a few bonus status points from your immediate crew of like-minded people.

Now, it's possible to be an enormous asshole on the internet and still provide value, perhaps providing food for thought or the occasional humor, but Mr Paul's presentation is simply as a kind of half-bright dick. He's the political version of a particularly annoying homeless person.

I wonder sometimes if part of the issue isn't the evolution of the USA from a place filled with rather ambitious people doing useful things, hard to avoid if hunger is your alternative, to one filled with Public Information Officers, 'artists', and therapists. A general philosophy of Wine Mom Angst is the pervading heading as men become women and women become crazy.

[Gregory]

So Punchy, now your story isn't that Mexico would build the wall.

What will the story be next?

[Gregory]

So, Punch... is Trump charged with screwing a porn actress?

Just what is the crime he's being tried for?

[Paul Emery]

Gregory

Do you believe he is telling the truth about his relationship with Stormy D? Is character an important value to possess if you're President?

Do you believe Trump has the character to be President if he screws a porn star while his wife is home with a babe in arms and he lies to the American public about it? Perhaps you believe he's telling the truth.

[scenes]

Speaking of the coming election, here's an idea from one JHK:

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"Will the Democrats just go through the motions the next six months, awaiting execution? Naw. One way or another, they are going to jam Hillary into this psychodrama.

Stay tuned for a couple of medical emergencies.

First, Kamala Harris will resign on account of a sudden “health problem” that prevents her from attending to her duties. Cancer will be implied but not spelled out. “Joe Biden” will appoint HRC of the Purple Pantsuit as veep.

Three weeks later, “JB” will submit his resignation for medical reasons, and nobody will need to ask why.

Voila! The first woman president, she-whose-turn-has-finally-come, flies triumphantly out of the Democratic Convention in her hometown, Chicago, like Rodan the Flying Reptile emerging from the mythic volcano, cawing her battle-cry across the land. The Golden Golem answers with a roar. The great re-match is on!"
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I really really like that idea. Far fetched, but both possible and very funny at the same time.
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Gregory: "Just what is the crime he's being tried for?"

I doubt psul has any idea, but so far as I can tell it's some sort of accounting thing. Didn't he have his lawyer payoff the nice lady?

Personally, I think it's all wonderful. There's some trouble for Orange Man here, but it's all a marvelous lesson in How Things Really Work. When a political party owns the prosecuting arm of law enforcement in a place, any old thing can be used to keep the grift going. You can just imagine the stuff that went on under FDR, Lincoln, or Johnson's Texas with a bit of handwaving and some midnight phone calls. People tend to forget just how crooked the whole she-bang (so to speak) can be.

[Gregory]

I've not seen any film of hers. Is she a "porn star"?

JFK screwed Marilyn Monroe and his wife was home with kids. How'd that work out?

[scenes]

re: Gregory@9:54AM

With a name like 'Stormy' I would expect at least 'Stripper' on the ol' CV.

Quick research sez 'yes' on pornstar. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1317917/fullcredits, although I've never seen 'Trailer Trash Nurses 6'. Naturally, post-Trump seems to have opened up some more doors in the bottom-feeding version of Hollywood.

Not an uncommon situation, to be sure, but always different. Kay Summersby appears to be a bonafide romance, Lucy Mercer was simply available, Bill Clinton left a trail of assault accusations, LBJ appears to have had more affairs than hot dinners (odd, given his looks, but power is it's own attractor), and JFK has his own wikipage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mistresses_of_John_F._Kennedy). Goes with the territory and bothers me not at all, although Obama's bathhouse shenanigans might stretch my sense of propriety.

[scenes]

Sorry. S. Daniels filmography.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1317917/fullcredits

Regardless of underline, comma throws off typepad, world's worst software.

[scenes]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mistresses_of_John_F._Kennedy

[Scott O]

scenes 9:09 - "You have to defend a position for one thing."

Oh, Paul has defended Biden. Claims that Biden is doing a great job.
For China and Iran, anyway.

[Scott O]

Paul 8:36 - I have no idea and don't care. I haven't been following the trial other than trying to figure out just what in hell he's being charged with. Actual lawyers can't even figure out what the crime is.
Maybe Matlock Paul can tell us.

[Gregory]

I stand corrected... Spermy Daniels was in The 40 Year Old Virgin playing "Porn Star" opposite Steve Carrell.

[fish ole’]

Yep….good to seem him keeping busy!

[fish ole’]

I stand corrected... Spermy Daniels was in The 40 Year Old Virgin playing "Porn Star" opposite Steve Carrell.

Good to see Hollywood striving for authenticity.

[Scott O]

Gregory 9:54 - "JFK screwed Marilyn Monroe..."

But this is "bonking", Gregory - BONKING!

[scenes]

Gregory: "I stand corrected... Spermy Daniels was in The 40 Year Old Virgin playing "Porn Star" opposite Steve Carrell."

Dude. You forgot 'Thumpin Melons' (2003) and 'Double D Babes 3' (2006).

Maybe a little virility in the head of state isn't such a bad thing, at least something more appropriate than the scent of children.

scotto: " Claims that Biden is doing a great job."

At least from the outside, he seems the closest thing to a placeholder President in my lifetime. Maybe psul might argue that BIDEN'S STAFF IS DOING A GREAT JOB. The funny thing is that I can't think of a single superstar member of his krew. Where is the Kissinger, James Baker, or even a poisonous dwarf like Robert Reich? My fear is that the Biden administration consists of a batch of 'activist' professional beltway folks who are busy jamming through feelz-based policy. At least this is the chance for the crossdressers to get a starring role for the first time.

[Don Bessee]

As if we did not know that they dont want a ceasefire -

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/05/14/palestinian-columnist-we-do-not-want-a-ceasefire-we-want-ongoing-war/

;-)

[Don Bessee]

Another reason creepy grampa joe is in the bottom of the polls -

High interest rates haven’t crashed the financial system, set off a wave of bankruptcies or caused the recession that many economists feared.

But for millions of low- and moderate-income families, high rates are taking a toll.

More Americans are falling behind on payments on credit card and auto loans, even as many are taking on more debt than ever before. Monthly interest expenses have soared since the Federal Reserve began raising interest rates two years ago. For families already strained by high prices, dwindling savings and slowing wage growth, increased borrowing costs are pushing them closer to the financial edge

https://www.yahoo.com/news/high-interest-rates-hitting-poorer-114036852.html

;-)

[fish ole’]

A trillion every hundred days…..

Does Inflation Lead To Civilizational Collapse? A Look At Rome

Punch will probably start getting those 8 foot diameter Yap stones thrown in the guitar case at this rate.

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/does-inflation-lead-civilizational-collapse-look-rome

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rai_stones

[Don Bessee]

Creepy grampa joe and the wokesters did that dont try to shift the blame assholes -

The Biden administration is accusing the Nicaraguan government of “cynically profiting” off illegal migration across the Americas, and warned the aviation and travel industries to “avoid complicity” in what it describes as a broad scheme by Managua to sell short-term visas to migrants through human smugglers

The administration said Nicaragua is selling visas upon arrival at their airports to migrants that require them to leave the country within 96 hours, providing smugglers with an opportunity to transport migrants closer to the U.S.-Mexico border.

“They are profiting quite substantially off the facilitation of irregular migrants,” a second senior administration official said, “who ultimately, in many cases, make their way up toward our southwest border.”

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/u-accuses-nicaragua-weaponizing-migration-170322535.html

;-)

[scenes]

"irregular migrants"

...from the Euphemism of the Month Club.

lol. I wish some Democrat would just simply own up to the fact that they want unlimited immigration, especially male, unless it's people of European ancestry. You not only get to eventually kill off Western Culture, but the swarthier people are kind of hawt.

[fish ole’]

Speaking of the end being near…..!

Joe Biden Invokes Executive Privilege Over Special Counsel Recordings

Fully non compos mentis….a daily affair in the Emery….err… Biden Administration.

[Scott O]

fishy 7:45 - "executive privilege"

Ha - Biden probably thinks Hur was his own lawyer!

[Gregory]

"Occasional irregularity" is my all-time favorite euphemism... name that comic.

George Carlin has not been replaced yet.

[Individual Juan]

"by any measure Trump is one of the most successful politicians and public figures in recent history" - George Rebane

Yes, could be. Not many politicians who ahve lied, cheated, and stepped on people's feet could have gotten away with what Trump has.

Who else has dominated the airwaves as often as this disgraced politician.
Adolf Hitler (1938); Joseph Stalin (1939 and 1942); Nikita Khrushchev (1957); and Ayatollah Khomeini (1979) are in good company with Trump (2016) as Time Magazine's Person of the Year.

"For reminding America that demagoguery feeds on despair and that truth is only as powerful as the trust in those who speak it, for empowering a hidden electorate by mainstreaming its furies and live-streaming its fears, and for framing tomorrow’s political culture by demolishing yesterday’s, Donald Trump is TIME’s 2016 Person of the Year."

[Gregory]

A timely reminder from Jeff P what a liar he is. Thanks, Jeff.

[Real MAGA Wives of SCOTUS]

Gregory 12:06

Please post a fact check of IJ's post @1102 AM

[Scott O]

Interesting:

"...for empowering a hidden electorate by mainstreaming its furies and live-streaming its fears,"

So - it's wrong to "empower" an electorate? Are they not tax paying, law abiding voters?
Why are they "hidden"?
Seems like the left is full of nothing but fury and fear.
I hear all the time about how if Trump is elected, he will eliminate all voting.
Funny how no lefties that post here will even begin to touch that bit of hair-on-fire spittle-blowing hysteria.
Ask anyone in Israel, or the Ukraine or our country if we were better off with Trump or that sad, corrupt, senile, perverted sack of molecules who currently occupies the White House.

[Gregory]

"Please post a fact check of IJ's post @1102 AM"

No, but thanks for trying.

"Who else has dominated the airwaves as often as this disgraced politician.
Adolf Hitler (1938); Joseph Stalin (1939 and 1942); Nikita Khrushchev (1957); and Ayatollah Khomeini (1979) are in good company with Trump (2016)"

Guilt by word association. Nice one.

[Paul Emery]

Scott

For once I agree with you wjen you characterize Trump as a " corrupt, senile, perverted sack of molecules who currently occupies the White House".

Glad you finally realized that.

[fish ole’]

Posted by: Paul Emery | 18 May 2024 at 12:55 PM

Trump currently occupies the White House?

[Scott O]

fishy 5:32 - Paul is going soft in the melon just like his hero Biden. Wait til Paul starts going on about his time playing with the The Rolling Stones and Count Basie.

[fish ole']

Posted by: Scott O | 18 May 2024 at 05:37 PM

Paul is going soft in the melon just like his hero Biden.

I just assumed his minder was slacking off...playing "Words with Friends"....Sodoku....etc. Not watching where psul was web browsing or what he was posting.

[Paul Emery]

fish

Yes in his twisted mind he is still President. Sad but true. Don't you ever listen to him when he rambles on about how the election was stolen? Do you regard Biden as the legitimate President of the United Sates and if not who is?

[Paul Emery]

Direct quote from Trump fish. Are you part of the 82% that believe the election was rigged and Trump is our actual President?

“Eighty-two percent of the country understands that it was a rigged election,” Trump said March 2 during a rally at the Greensboro Coliseum Complex. “You can’t have a country with that. A poll came out: 82%. But they go after the people — they don’t go after the people that rig the election, they go after the people (that are) looking.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/2900213/trump-claims-82-percent-understand-2020-election-rigged/

[fish ole']

In order of your Trump obsession.....

Yes in his twisted mind he is still President. Sad but true.

Yes but your response to Scott was not written from his perspective it was written from yours and you clearly stated....."For once I agree with you wjen (sic) you characterize Trump as a " corrupt, senile, perverted sack of molecules who currently occupies the White House".

He doesn't "currently occupy the White House". Do you still thinks that he does?

....and thanks in advance for agreeing with me.

Don't you ever listen to him when he rambles on about how the election was stolen?

Now that he is no longer president I don't pay a great deal of attention to him any more. I'm certainly not obsessed with him like you are.

....and thanks in advance for agreeing with me.

Do you regard Biden as the legitimate President of the United Sates and if not who is?

Asked and answered within the first two weeks after the transfer of power. I'm sure you don't remember....you don't seem to remember much at all these days.....discussions between you and George where you would repeatedly re-ask questions after he had provided perfectly clear and cogent responses, my name, answers provided on myriad topics by other posters where it was explicitly suggested that you write the answer down somewhere so the same ground wouldn't need to be covered again, and again, and still again!

....and thanks in advance for agreeing with me.

[fish ole']

Now that he is no longer president I don't pay a great deal of attention to him any more.

Sorry....horrible sentence! Not just regular bad....Emery level bad!

"Now that he is no longer president I don't pay him a great deal of attention."

[fish ole']

Hmmmm....

The human brain has been shrinking – and no-one quite knows why

Progressivism.....Individual Juan levels of obesity......so many possibilities!

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240517-the-human-brain-has-been-shrinking-and-no-one-quite-knows-why

[Paul Emery]

Trump is flipping out. I think the end is near for his campaign. Here's his latest rant from a NRA convention for gun owners in Texas.

"Darah Matthews, a former White House deputy press secretary under Donald Trump, blasted the former president on Sunday for some of his comments that he made about President Joe Biden at the National Rifle Association (NRA) Convention in Dallas.

"If President Joe Biden was a Republican, he would have been given the electric chair, they would have brought back the death penalty," Trump told the crowd on Saturday at the NRA's annual meeting."

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-blasted-sarah-matthews-joe-biden-electric-chair-remarks-1902273

[fish ole’]

I think the end is near for his campaign.

Based on this statement from lefty Todd alone one would have to assume that the former president is a shoo in to win the 2024 presidential election.

[Gregory]

Yep, the campaign is nearing the end all right.

Punchy is calling it. You betcha!

[Paul Emery]

Your guy Trump guy is flipping out Gregory. You gotta be a nutcase to say something like that.

[Gregory]

My "guy Trump guy is flipping out"?

The only one who seems to be flipping out is you, Punch.

[Don Bessee]

Funny how the po ol ponytail of ignorance is mute on the lawfare failures. LOL

;-)

[Scott O]

Ha ha - "Your guy Trump guy(sic) is flipping out..."

And yet -
He'd still be a better choice for POTUS than any Dem.

[Don Bessee]

Whats worse than a shithole city, oakland. Here is a novel thought, enforce the law idiots. -

https://www.foxnews.com/media/oakland-locals-blame-homeless-encampment-city-removing-traffic-lights-stop-copper-thieves

;-)

[Don Bessee]

An honor graduate of the Shaprton - Jessee Jackson university of grift -

Former Facebook and Nike DEI manager sentenced to 5 years in prison for fraud scheme
Barbara Furlow-Smiles, 38, admitted to stealing millions from Facebook and Nike in kickback schemes

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/former-facebook-nike-dei-manager-sentenced-to-5-years-prison-for-fraud-scheme

;-)

[fish ole']

Posted by: Don Bessee | 19 May 2024 at 11:05 PM

Don't know why Nike and Facebook are complaining.....DEI has never been anything other than an Affirmative Action grift. A chance for progressive whites to publicly feel good about themselves.

[Real MAGA Wives of SCOTUS]

Hopefully 'The End is is Near' for the shrunken-brained MAGA mental cases who continue to reminisce, falsely, about how great Trump is and how America was at its zenith was under his reign.

We all remember the economic shock the world experienced in 2008 at the end of the Bush term, and how the Obama administration worked to get the economy back on track with the pre-MAGA whining all the way through his administration as the stock market continued to rise and the economy improved.

Trump took the reins from Obama and shepherded a rising economy, giving back to the rich, until Covid hit resulting in an even greater economic shock to the world economy. Biden then took the reins from Trump and, like his predecessors, worked to successfully bring the economy back with the stock market continuing to hit all-time highs.

...and clown show MAGAs continue to whine...while wasting fuel driving around in circles with their false flag festooned pick-em-up trucks dressed in funny red caps, and parade around courthouses dressed in matchy-matchy red ties, and blue suits.

[fish ole']

Posted by: Real Old Fart Photographers or Morbidly Obese Queens of the Sierra Foothills | 20 May 2024 at 09:11 AM

Obama administration worked to get the economy back on track = Spent Ungodly Sums of Taxpayer Money Stolen from the Future to Paper Over the Problem so Politicians wouldn't be Lynched

Fixed that for you.....

[Gregory]

the 911 insanity...

The 2008 crash was precipitated by Clinton's ushering in of free money for houses... let the poor get into homes they can't afford so they can get on the capital escalator, too.

[Paul Emery]

How do you figure that Gregory?

Clinton's Presidency ended 8 years before the 2008 crash Gregory. Bush was President since 2000 and controlled the House and Senate most of the time.

[Gregory]

Under Clinton, folks got hooked on easy terms on home loans and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac got hooked on being able to sell the substandard paper sliced and diced, bundled together.

[Gregory]

I guess Punch ended up remembering the subprime mortgage mess that started with Clinton.

[Scott O]

"...and how the Obama administration worked to get the economy back on track"

Yes - we remember Obama screwing over GM bond holders, making cozy deals with insiders, letting crooks off the hook.

In the end, Obama's economy was barely moving forward. When Trump claimed he would do better, Obama mocked him - how'd that work out?
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2016/12/02/flashback-obama-mocks-trump-asks-if-he-has-a-magic-wand-to-keep-carrier-jobs-in-us-n2253723

"...who continue to reminisce, falsely, about how great Trump is..."

Yeah - Appointed good solid conservative supremes, no war in Ukraine or Palestine, low inflation...
Just false reminisces -
Are we, in the US, and those in the world better off now or under Trump?
Before you answer, maybe check the death count in Palestine and the Ukraine.

[fish ole']

Posted by: Scott O | 20 May 2024 at 05:07 PM

"...and how the Obama administration worked to get the economy back on track"

Yes - we remember Obama screwing over GM bond holders, making cozy deals with insiders, letting crooks off the hook.

Well that's kind of like "getting the economy back on track".....and just look at what his leadership did for the Greek Fishermen's cap making & wearing industries.

[fish ole']

The end really is near.....

Jonathan Turley on Michael Cohen's testimony:

"I believe this day is truly gonna go down as a day of infamy...It's not just that you're relying on a serial perjurer...but it is in a case that we're still not certain what the theory of the crime is.

I'm sure Trump is "flipping out" though....lefty Todd said so.

What a maroon!

https://mishtalk.com/politics/trump-drama-courtroom-cleared-and-a-defense-motion-to-dismiss/

[Don Bessee]

Guess they aint black creepy grampa joe -

NYT Interviews 2 Dozen Black Philadelphia Voters, Just 8 Are Voting for Biden

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/05/20/nyt-interviews-2-dozen-black-philadelphians-8-voting-biden/

And in the name of piling on -

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-is-denying-reality-he-s-losing-this-election/ar-BB1mJjE8?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=53cbcf8748ba4cfdb5ebe86f4523e64d&ei=114

;-)

[Paul Emery]

So Scott was the economy when Trump left office better or worse than the one he inherited from Obama?

[🐠 ole’]

Posted by: Punchy Bot | 20 May 2024 at 08:38 PM

At some point you’d think that embarrassment (about making the same idiotic arguments again and again) would kick in…..?

And thanks in advance for agreeing with me!

[Scott O]

fish emoji 8:52 - Psul is beyond rational thought and embarrassment.
He's a Biden Butt-Licker and has proven terminal TDS.
He now claims he knows what Trump is thinking.
Sad.

[🐠ole’]

Posted by: Scott O | 20 May 2024 at 09:31 PM

He now claims he knows what Trump is thinking.

psulnac the 5150 candidate

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[Paul Emery]

Once again Scott

Was the economy when Trump left office better or worse than the one he inherited from Obama?

[fish ole']

Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 May 2024 at 05:42 AM

Did Obama leave with an economy gripped by a world shutting pandemic? No....

Did Trump cause the pandemic? No....

Is your head still in the plastic bag....? Probably.

Like I said Punch.....at some point embarrassment has to kick in....and thanks in advance for agreeing with me.

[Scott O]

"Once again....."

Yes - for the umteenth time.

And also once again - ever hear about that time our nation went insane and decided to hide under the bed for a couple of years?

[Real MAGA Wives of SCOTUS]

'The End is Near'

Trump's defense team rests their case.

All hat, no cattle Trump was not allowed off his leash to testify.

[Paul Emery]

fish, Scott

So what you're saying is there was a reason for the dismal economy Biden inherited. I wasn't asking for a reason only a comparison of the numbers. Simple question if you can handle that. Once again:

Was the economy when Trump left office better or worse than the one he inherited from Obama?

[Scott O]

"for the dismal economy Biden inherited."

Wasn't dismal - it was rebounding quite strongly until Biden won. Then, due to Biden's actions the stock market went into the tank and federal "bailout" money was needlessly spent driving up our debt.
Biden has been wrecking our country ever since with deficit spending merely to buy votes.

[fish ole']

Posted by: Paul Emery | 21 May 2024 at 12:50 PM

Was the economy when Trump left office better or worse than the one he inherited from Obama?

Hey....Matlock™ is back in town with his "yes or no" pretending he's an attorney questions!

[Scott O]

"Trump was not allowed off his leash to testify"

Any good trial lawyer would tell you that Trump should not testify as there is nothing he could have said to sway the jurors that already want to find him guilty even before the trial began.
Can anyone out there explain to us what crime was supposedly committed?

[Paul Emery]

Scott

Trump signed and supported the "bailout" money legislation you referred to. That is common knowledge and I'm surprised you didn't know about it.

"President Trump has signed the largest-ever US financial stimulus package, worth $2tn (£1.7tn), as the country grapples with the coronavirus pandemic."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52070718

[Scott O]

No Paul - I'm talking about the fed money spent under the Biden admin. By the time Biden took office there was no longer any need to continue spending covid bailout money. In fact a lot of states and cities spent the dough on all sorts of other things. And the "anti-inflation" spending was lunacy and made inflation worse. Just because the money was authorized, didn't mean it needed to be spent.

[Paul Emery]

But Scott Trump authorized the money to be spent bu signing the bill. Also Trump ran up nearly 7 trillion in national debt during his 4 years in office. Debt increased by around 6.6 Trillion in only four years compared to Obama who ran up 7.6 Trillion in eight years.

https://www.investopedia.com/us-debt-by-president-dollar-and-percentage-7371225

[Scott O]

"Trump authorized the money to be spent"

You didn't even read my post, did you Paul.

Blaming Trump for our nation's collective insanity of shutting down the economy and living on printed money is ignorant nonsense. Had Trump vetoed the bill it would have been over-ridden.
Biden claims our economy is so great we have to pay off student debt because they can't get jobs. Inflation is rampant. In fact - our economy is now so wonderful that we're running a trillion in debt every hundred days. Why is that, Paul? It's not because the IRS is getting less revenue.

[Paul Emery]

Scott

You write:

"Had Trump vetoed the bill it would have been over-ridden."

Trump was President and the Repubs controlled the Senate when he signed the Bills authorizing the spending of the money that led to the debt. Trump was weak and ineffective and had no leadership ability.

[Gregory]

The money Trump "spent" was formally authorized by the Congress, but Punchy's in-depth analsys of blame left that part out.

[Paul Emery]

Scott

The fact is that Trump wanted more stimulus money then that in in the Bill.

"Trump suggests he won't sign relief bill into law unless Congress makes changes including increasing stimulus checks to $2,000"

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/22/trump-covid-relief-congress-stimulus/

[Don Bessee]

I am sure that the oh so noble ponytail of ignorance's fiscal concerns prompted him to send back his stimulus check as soon as it was in his grubby little hands. LOL

;-)

[Don Bessee]

Creepy grampa joe has lost them -

Democrats in tough races are breaking with Biden over border security, liquified natural gas exports, the Israel-Hamas war and tariffs on Chinese goods.

They’re staying competitive in the polls despite Biden’s low approval ratings and lagging position relative to Trump, but they are worried the president’s political brand will start weighing them down as Election Day nears.

“If you go out there and do a focus group, the focus groups all say, ‘He’s 200 years old. You got to be kidding me.’

A second Democratic senator, when asked about Biden’s poll numbers, said the president’s age is a persistent concern among voters.

“Biden’s showing his age in ways weirdly more than Trump,” said the senator, who noted that Trump, 77, is only four years younger than Biden, 81.

“People keep saying, ‘Why didn’t he take a pass, he’s just so tired?’” the senator said of constituents who are baffled over Biden’s decision to run for a second term. “That is such a prevalent feeling.”

Biden sometimes appears to walk stiffly or with a shuffling gait, which Republican-aligned critics love to point out in social media posts.

The lawmaker also cited the high costs of basic goods and services as another political headwind facing Biden.

“People are shocked at the cost of a house and the cost of drugs,

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/alarmed-democrats-flee-biden-ailing-093000951.html

;-)

[Don Bessee]

Much of the white house staff are like the guy at the end of the circus parade cleaning up the shit all the time but hey they are in show biz! -

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-five-white-house-makes-nine-corrections-to-biden-s-naacp-speech/vi-BB1mO6BQ?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=1404b3226cef4f0295b2364c6fbb46c8&ei=126

;-)

[Don Bessee]

Creepy grampa joe is the gaff that keeps on giving gibberish -

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/05/21/video-biden-malfunctions-touts-signing-the-pacandlpacatlackack/

;-)